Dragonite vs. Tyranitar - Which pseudo-legendary is FASTER?

Playthrough Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle (except held items)
3. No glitches or exploits*
4. No Double-Team TM before level 100*
Other rules:
-- My Pokemon have perfect genetics to ensure fair comparison between species.
-- *Pokeballs & Pokedolls are allowed in battle
-- *The badge-boost glitch is not restricted at all
-- *Skipping the Rocket Hideout & Marowak is allowed
-- I play the game at 4x game speed (238 frames per second)
-- My Pokemon has perfect DVs
-- The bike is allowed
-- Skipping the bike is not allowed
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game & timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
*Double-Team:
-- Almost every Pokemon can learn Double-Team through TM
-- The TM can be purchased in Celadon
-- Using it would centralize the meta
-- Every Pokemon would use it to overcome tough battles at lower levels
-- It raises evasion
-- It triggers the badge boost
-- Banning the TM allows Pokemon who learn it through level up to use it
-- I believe evasion is part of Pokemon and shouldn't be banned entirely
-- I don't want the videos to all be double-team spam though, that's not fun or entertaining
Terms:
-- STAB
-- Same-Type-Attack-Bonus - a 1.5x damage multiplier
-- Stat Experience
-- The Gen1&2 equivalent of effort values. You can invest in all stats until they max
out at 65535
-- DVs or Determinate Values
-- The Gen1&2 equivalent of IVs (individual values), these range from 0-15
Resources:
-- Gen 1 Stat Calculator: pycosites.com/...
-- All Trainer Pokemon have IVs (DVs) of 89888 (hp, atk, def, spd, spc)
-- All Trainer Pokemon have EVs of 0
-- Gen 1 Crit Rates: www.smogon.com...
-- Crit rate is determined by dividing base speed by 512
-- High crit rate moves determine their rate by dividing base speed by 64
-- All crits have a 1/256 to fail, even if the rate is 100%
-- Crits don't multiple damage by 2, it's a formula based on level
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[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Answers to your FAQ. I ran the numbers for all these with my routing software. Hidden Power Psychic isn't as strong against Bruno. It's the difference between two hitting the Machamp (hp psychic) and getting an 80% chance to knock it out in one hit (hp flying). Having 15 Attack (Hidden Power Psychic) instead of 12 Attack (Hidden Power Flying) raises Tyranitar's chances of defeating Red's Espeon in one hit from 26% to 37%. Defeating Falkner at a lower level is of course possible. However, with my current knowledge, I believe it isn't a wise choice because what does each Pokemon gain from defeating him earlier? Both need to train so they can reach at least lv70 for Red. Battling earlier trainers, obtaining Flash, and then defeat Falkner allows for a snowball to form earlier from which you can reap compounding returns. Red's Espeon: Blackglasses+Crunch 31% OHKO, Hard Stone+Rock Slide 26% OHKO. IMO the 5% boost for the one hit is not worth carrying Crunch for a large portion of the playthrough. Tyranitar will need to bypass Espeon with a lucky two hit after being hit by Mud-Slap. Setup Curse on Pikachu? I did try this. Thunder does 21%-26% per hit and has a chance to paralyze. So that's not a great start. Also, because of Tyranitar's speed, one use of Curse cuts its speed under that of Blastoise and Venusaur which harms is chances significantly in the rest of the battle. Rip Rock/Dark type :( You're correct: I should use Bite against Morty with Tyranitar I should use Fire Punch against Jasmine more (this is a recurring error I make in my playthroughs, mostly because I think that Ice Punch will be "good enough" and I don't want to waste time learning a new TM and replacing my held item with the Charcoal)

[@KageNoTenshi]

Lets put it this way, you saw a two turn solar beam coming and you had detect and you didn’t use it, you deserve whatever poor result you get

[@priestesslucy3299]

Love how you went through the effort to make this FAQ Scott 💞💞

[@iantaakalla8180]

Also, Ice generally sucks. Even given it is a coverage move, only the very versatile and Ice will use for it.

[@Chronoflation]

Fire Punch's benefits against Jasmine can also potentially apply to Pryce's Piloswine. It may take it to a 1-hit for some mons and save a few more seconds, making up for the inventory management slightly more than just Jasmine and remove a little bit of the risk for both leaders

[@MsCravenMoorehead]

*Applause*

[@PurpleReposter25372]

Woke up at 1am this morning with a raging ear infection but Scott’s thoughts make the pain go away Edit: I appreciate all the replies but my infection is not getting better despite having antibiotics prescribed to me, might have to get something stronger…

[@denis2381]

Dr. Thoughts :-) I hope you get soon better!

[@ruthlesace]

They always do

[@dislexyc]

I hope you get better I get those often, it gets rough sometimes

[@thatoneweirdbish6364]

Completely agree, his videos helped me a lot with getting through the v. And ear infections are the worst, hope you'll get better asap!

[@tayvongriffiths8546]

Ayooo

[@theiceman7590]

I feel like Salamence vs Metagross in Emerald would be a perfect successor to this video

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I agree

[@andyvanmuilekom7390]

Some cool new moves for ttar and dragonite as well might as well do all 4

[@michaelchavez7108]

I doubt it would be close metagross crushes the game

[@thetoxicdoc9617]

This comment aged so well 🥹🫶🏼

[@theiceman7590]

@@thetoxicdoc9617 thanks for reminding me of this channel and series lol. I actually totally forgot about it.

[@megadick6000]

Wing Attack is what Dragonite would learn as he evolves from Dragonair at lvl 55 and grows wings, so that does kinda make sense haha

[@priestesslucy3299]

No reason Gamefreak couldn't have given it to Dragonite at Level 1 and 55 though. A lot of Pokemon have something like that going on (although less often in Gens 1 and 2, but it's still there)

[@somedogsarecops2354]

@Priestess Lucy You aren't supposed to have Dragonite at level 1 so no reason they would of thought to give it.

[@keni7566]

@@somedogsarecops2354 A lot of evolved Pokémon do actually have moves at Lvl. 1 because of the move reminders. So yeah, it wouldn't make sense for them to not give Dragonite Wing Attack at Lvl. 1. And either way, there is Move Reminder in the Stadium 2 game. Sure, for Gen 1 and Gen 2 standards it would be stupid, but it does make sense for them to do so since you need a mon from Gen 2 for Stadium 2.

[@itsthekid9815]

@@priestesslucy3299 because it isn't hyped about having wings. It had no arms or legs for 54 levels. At level 55 it's like omg I have wings ima use them. At level 1 it's just use to them being wings and hasn't thought of using them for violence. Unlike a pokemon that has been wrapping people for 54 level.

[@danielgloyd4529]

​@@itsthekid9815 The best head cannon response.

[@matttypes2695]

Lance: Check out my 3 inappropriately leveled Dragonites Scott: I too have an inappropriately leveled Dragonite Lance: Surprised Pikachu face

[@jordanalexander615]

Pokemon golder lol😂 I love that quote

[@AJUniverse]

Dragonite learns Wing Attack so late because, if it were leveling up normally from Dratini, it wouldn't've had wings yet.

[@TheRilluma]

lol

[@Hanesboi]

That first run with Tyranitar would face much fewer issues if it's attack IVs weren't as cut by HP Flying

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Especially since it dropped it anyways

[@seraph481516]

I've always enjoyed how you use the natural transitions in the game for your edits. Seeing you point that out made my day! Thanks for all the great content, keep it up!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Glad you're enjoying the transitions! We're still working to make them battle :)

[@desiccant]

The VS videos are my favorites, appreciate you doing them even though you said they were more work.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Much more work, but we've become really good at editing videos now, so one of these isn't unbelievably exhausting anymore!

[@Nathan_Moor]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Thank you for all your efforts

[@TalesoftheChronic]

i really love how you breakdown the stats and raising the pokemon to peak perfection. (exactly how i figured out how to get my pokemon to be even more effective in my future play throughs.) Thanks Scott for always giving us the nerdy stats! your number one poke-fan nathan !

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

We all need a bit more Pokemon statistics in our life!

[@moritzgattaz3884]

I love how you explain your strategies for each section/major battle. The fact that you test out moves we generally wouldn't see a Pokémon using makes these challenges even funnier to watch. Feels like you bring each Pokémon to their full potential! Keep up the great work!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks so much! I will

[@johntarver5684]

Scott, I hope that beer you got tasted delicious! You truly earned it with your month of hard work!

[@Leonomonn]

I'm really excited for this one. Tyranitar is my favorite Pokemon, but I love both these guys.

[@isaotron]

I love seeing two excellent Pokemon do excellent against each other. My favorite kind of versus videos

[@jacobliston7339]

Thanks for the chuckle at 26:09 Plus, the idea of Tyranitar wearing a pink bow makes me smile

[@TheEliseblackbriar]

That fairy venomoth in the corner got me so bad I choked on my drink xD Merry Christmas Scott!!

[@danielkaragic7057]

Man how cute is this dragonite-graphic!? A chunky, friendly little dragon. Great as always scott, enjoy the holidays

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Dragonite is so cute

[@joel2628]

Ooooh. My senses are telling me the Metagross versus Salamence race is finally going to happen soon! Nice.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Not exactly “soon” but it will happen in 2023

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

4:04 -- LOL I love the look on that Lapras when you call out Misty has ice moves

[@charlessegale6493]

I distinctively remember learning about Twister hitting Pokémon flying up in the air and Earthquake dealing double damage when a Pokémon is underground with Dig in Earl's class in Pokémon Stadium 2. Twenty-odd years ago. ...crap, I feel old.

[@InfernosReaper]

Honestly, dropping Crunch(effective 120 power) seemed a bit of an odd choice to, since it's comparable-enough to Return against everything except Fighting and Bug pokemon(aka, what Hidden Power Fly is meant to deal with) and would be super-effective against Espeon, so less potentially less Mudslaps to deal with. EDIT: The potential for debuffing is also a nice bonus of Crunch.

[@KylestyleTV]

Also, for Morty, using dig which takes 2 turns at 120 power seemed like not as good of a choice as using bite at 180 power since the ghosts have a low so def too

[@InfernosReaper]

​@@KylestyleTV Yeah, Bite's generally a better choice than Dig, but ya gotta factor in Special Attack vs Special Defense, rather than Attack vs Defense, which may affect the comparison Crunch at 80 power(effectively 120 base; 240 vs weaknesses) would definitely make up the gap to *destroy* Psychic and Ghost types.

[@KylestyleTV]

@@InfernosReaper yeah phone auto corrected SP Def to "so def". With their low SP def, bite shoulda been slightly* faster

[@InfernosReaper]

@@KylestyleTV that ghost's special defense is slightly higher than their physical. the physical attack of the attacker is higher than their physical defense. It looks like those gaps enough to make Dig and Bite about equal on paper, with Bite winning out overall for time, depending on stat experience. Crunch, on the other hand is so strong that there is not s contest.

[@LeathalAttack]

Dude, apart from the one speedrunner I've watched for years, you are the only person I consistently watch play through the same games repeatedly. I still love the content, so it keeps me coming back.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Well I'm glad the videos keep you coming back! Makes me happy to know I'm doing something right when making these.

[@dungeonpastor]

Dragonite proving why he's dominate. My favorite of all time. Great video, Scott.

[@ruisurengai]

To be fair the DVs didn't suffer like TTars

[@felixjohansson4395]

Would be cool to see Metagross vs Salamence in Emerald.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Planned

[@RealCaptainAwesome]

The Tyranitar back sprite is so nostalgic.

[@ubermusli]

I started watching your videos maybe like six months ago, after a recommendation from my friend who watches you as they go to sleep. During these months, you've gone from being my go to channel for sleeping, to just always being on in the background, both day and night. No other channel comes closer to being the soundtrack of my time as a new father. And for that, I thank you. Happy holidays, and take care.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Congrats on being a new father that’s really exciting and probably really exhausting. I’m honoured that my content has become the soundtrack for you during this special time.

[@fritz1651]

T-tars Gen 2 backsprite looks so sick, it already has the edge over the goofy plump dragon design-wise.

[@thecriticalghost4626]

Goofy dragon Is cool

[@ReederMG]

Phenomenal video as always! And I appreciate the pinned FAQ comment. You covered my question about not using Bite against Morty.

[@31088489]

ice and thunder has always been known for perfect type coverage

[@franz009franz]

tyranitar is in my top 3 of all pokemon dragonite is somwhere in the 10-15 range. Pog video

[@luciddreamworks]

Gosh Scott, you are pumping out content like no one I've seen!! You deserve success on KZbin It's been so cool to see the growth since I started watching a couple years ago Anyways, I hope you and your fiance are doing well..she's the same type as venemoth if I'm not mistaken? Ghost, ice type is OP!!

[@dantemalick2872]

Dragonite learning wing attack at 55 makes sense since that's the level dragonair evolves and actually gets wings Another thing why not hidden power psychic on tyrannitar it only seemed to need it for fighting types and that's 15 attack ev

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Ahhh yes! That does make sense

[@dantemalick2872]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon the small difference probably would have made you need slightly less training in a few spots and you might have not needed to use a rare candy early either

[@DarkNia64]

That timeskip edit at 19:34 was superb. Looked like Ethan just ran past the hiker saying "I don't have time for you."

[@CelticGuardian7]

With how some of these runs go, it can be easy to forget just how threatening Red can be. It was cool to see him give both of these titans a run for their money. =)

[@darnedchris]

Great video once again Scott! About the one-shot on Umbreon, I instantly think of Herracross Megahorn? Sure, 85% accuracy but still, 120 power super effective STAB move with high attack? :-)

[@SinnerChrono]

Dragonite is my favorite pokemon so im rooting for him. But no matter what im sure you always try to be fair scott. And i appreciate that. Happy holidays.

[@TJF588]

15:37 "But yeah, if _could_ use it, in that case, it would deal double damage~." Something about how "double damage" is said with that rising intonation is charmingly pleasant.

[@bigpoggers6507]

I’m betting on my boy Dragonite, because cmon, it’s Dragonite and there’s a fighting type gym for Tyranitar to get mauled by

[@LTDextel]

26:16 technically if the remakes are correct, that is Lance's Dragonite harassing the rocket employee. Also, Dennis!

[@TheArchit3cture]

25:23. This summarizes why they were like "no, you WAIT until later to get a Lavitar. You're going to get cooked."

[@jordanalexander615]

The later generations Dragonite really shines with the physical special split. Great coverage and can utilize its good attack stat finally.

[@LemanRuss01]

TTAR

[@craigseverance6235]

I imagine an industrial tile polisher would make tyranitar happy and works as a "haircut"

[@d.a.d.-ohgosh]

My favorite video of yours so far!!!

[@BigKingQ]

Glad I didn't have to ask for this one. Thank you Scott 😊

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You’re welcome.

[@MrSaturnMusic]

These are so fun to watch, seeing the different strengths and weaknesses of these Pokemon back to back I'm hoping to see Slowbro vs Slowking

[@hansvantcg]

Yessssssss let’s go my boy TTAR!!!!! Hopefully he pulls out the win

[@jaredstivers]

If I remember from the Randomizer Speed Runner vs. Nuzlockers, the Gyarados is an easy catch since it shows off the new Shiny mechanic.

[@mattulibarri6181]

2 of my favorite pokemon of all time (Dragonite #1) this is one of my favorite videos ever. Nice work! @scott

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Thanks!

[@TJF588]

Smug Lapras slide-in when forecasting Misty's moveset, brilliant use.

[@laureate90]

Ah, Godzilla vs Destroyah, can't wait :) I'd have gone with King Ghidorah, but that's clearly Hydreigon. Mothra of course being Volcarona... You totally have a potential series here, man.

[@GerBessa]

Or Venomothra...

[@laureate90]

@@GerBessa The legendary poison fairy pokemon? Too epic to contemplate...

[@TJF588]

The Power of Editing Compels You! The Power of Editing Compels You!

[@powwowken2760]

That first run with Dragonite was laughably lucky, so many clutch misses, timely freezes and favorable AI choices...Then finally at the end Red comes along and says, "..." and puts Dragonite back to the spot it probably should've been at the entire time. Yet Dragonite's luck eventually came back and carried through the final battle.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

That’s why I’ve always got to do multiple runs!

[@quintonfloyd420]

Lol This reads like you're personally offended that Tyranitar didn't win.

[@Kyle_MJ]

Next Pseudo Legendary Match: Metagross vs Garchomp Let’s make it happen! Merry Christmas Scott!

[@SteorraD]

I was looking forward to this run lets goo

[@MrSharkings]

i like how in the title card tyranitar's all "ARRGAGFDTAG I AM GODZILLA AND I WILL DESTROY YOUR CITY" and dragonite's just like "o hey there :)"

[@jotarokujo3603]

I like to imagine Dragonite rolling up to the Whitney fight in a bad Jirachi costume on its head.

[@matthiasrauert8397]

Want to see a rematch in gen 3. T-tars ability alone makes it so much better in these games.

[@shadowtitanx3962]

Idk. Sand Stream might bloat its time.

[@dragonknight1560]

Really happy Dragonite got that win hehe. I'm glad! But yea, this was a close match-up! Good work Scott! But yea, the random chance of going through Red is not easy.

[@WillowEpp]

Speaking of your overlay, I'm curious: have you thought about adding damage range calculation to the individual moves to show in real time what the effects of BP+stats+enemy turns out to be? I realise it would probably reduce the delta between initial play and optimisation, but it seems very natural as an extension of what you've already done.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yes. I have already written functions to do this. In 2023 at some point I’ll show exact damage ranges in the 2nd playthrough portion of the video. First playthroughs will still be done this way because I don’t want to take all the mystery out of things.

[@WillowEpp]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon Cool! I've definitely wondered in cases where, for example, there's a neutral move with high stat vs. super effective with low stat. Or the cases where the defensive stats come into play. Anyway, something to look forward to; the best Pokémon overlay is just getting better!

[@jcoyne4718]

I completely agree about Iron Thorns, it and Roaring Moon are the two best designed paradoxes in my opinion. It's a shame that despite having a better typing, it's still worse competitively than regular Tyranitar. That just shows how good Sand Stream is, tbh. Also yay go Dragonite!

[@iantaakalla8180]

It also means that Iron Thorns proves the maxim that cool Pokémon suck in competitive.

[@franslair2199]

Actually hilariously enough sand stream kneecaps Tyranitar now because they forgot to give sand stream users an immunity to sandstorm (like any boosted in the sand ability does) so if he teras out of his defensively awful type he gets damaged by his own sandstorm

[@grant804558]

can you implement the physical/special split in these earlier games it might provide very different results

[@priestesslucy3299]

Iirc Dragonite doesn't get EQ in Gen 1 and 2. That's a pretty significant disadvantage

[@shadowtitanx3962]

Meanwhile, Ttar doesn't get Ice Punch and Thunder Punch, unlike in later Gens.

[@NativeGolfer10]

I’m looking forward to the new content and how you will be tackling all the new challenges across 4 games.

[@mickgorro]

Lance spirals into the sky, and I follow suit, turning into a bird and using... leaf powers?

[@Red-jq6bw]

YOOOW! MY FAVORITE POKEMON VS POSSIBLY THE STRONGEST POKEMON IN REGARDS TO COMPETITIVE! I'M HYPED!

[@LinkLovesCrawfish]

Good Pokémon pics this video is going to be fun!

[@BarelyLegal23]

I have no idea how your pumping these videos out daily, I hope youtube is paying you well lol

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

We started working on all this at the start of November! That’s how ;)

[@RonDaSantis]

In gen 2 you can get a dratini that knows Extremespeed. It’s a powerful, first strike, physical attack. All you have to do is answer the guys questions right that gives you a dratini. So you should include that move in what dragonite offers.

[@RecRoomPlays]

Crunch/Rock Slide/Earthquake/a Normal move has always been my go-to Tyranitar moveset, it's surprising how much those three moves can cover

[@hippotuskman7808]

Next legendary Pokémon you have trouble naming, name it Kenny Omega 💪🏽👍🏽🔥

[@jaredstivers]

I wonder how the Gen 4 race would do between these to Titan Pokemon? Crunch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Ability Stand Stream with Defense Buff, Outrage and Stone Edge. T-Tar also get access to Thunder, Ice and Fire Punch but Dragonite balances back with Dragon Rage. Plus this version would be cool to see Dratini vs Larvitar.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Yeah, some of these races will be very different after the physical special split. I’m thinking of the Hitmons specifically!

[@jaredstivers]

@Scott's Thoughts I think on the Hitmonlee vs. Hitmonchan race, Lee would probably get the win, but Chan would be tons more consistent. With both getting Close Combat, it would be more of an even battle, plus Lee gets Blaze Kick as a level up move. Lol. Dragonite gets all the Elemental at level 1, so its level 5 move generation would be a coin flip. It could have roost. Tyranitar, on the other hand, would probably get very interesting. It's unlocks the Elements Fang moves at level 1, gets Screech, has a stab Physical Bite and sets up Sand Storm with Sand Stream.

[@InternetLad]

Having not watched it yet, tyranitar is a freak show and I don't even think it'll be close.

[@rooislangwtf]

I'd like to see a run back where Tyranitar gets better stats instead of hidden power to compare the 2 runs

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

The stats hardly change the important damage ranges. I tested this. HP Flying helps WAY more than 3 extra DV points

[@rooislangwtf]

@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon aah I misremembered how DVs work, I thought they went way higher than 15

[@yoyojoost]

‘For me this took múch longer..’ *checks timer* 4 whole minutes 😂

[@niko-fr9of]

I remember when you put the poll up I did vote for dragonnite and commented that it movepool is just massive.

[@casssieboy]

4x effective STAB Dynamic Punch has an effective power of 600, and Tyranitar still survived 0_0

[@adriandrost4823]

I frickin love Tyranitar. As a BIG Godzilla fan this is my favourite pokemon since i saw this thing back in the day of gen 2.

[@wcv6009]

My guess is Dragonite will win. its typing is significantly better for this type of challenge, and notably both its STAB types are boosted by Johto badges (if any flying moves are used), while neither of Ttar’s are. Also its main weakness, Ice is used by Pryce who is a terrible trainer, while Tyranitar will have to deal with super effective Mud Slaps (might not ko but will be irritating and will slow it down), neutral Fury Cutter which might be dangerous, Super Effective hits from Chich, and then from Jasmine’s Steelix as well. And then once you get to Elite 4 there is Bruno and his Machamp. Dnite won’t hit a wall until Claire minimum, and then shouldn’t have a problem again until Misty and then Red’s Blastoise. So yeah, Dragonite is my pick to win.

[@wcv6009]

I thought Rock resisted Bug. Turns out nope.

[@iantaakalla8180]

How good is Grusha? Because I’ve noticed so far, only female Ice trainers are good.

[@kingedgy6608]

Did you try to use the Curse + Detect strategy against Venusaur? I think it might work out pretty well to block solar beam and let you one-shot everything else (maximum of 1 mud slap taken).

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Pretty sure Blastoise ruined my day because it outspeeds

[@delt19]

Scyther: does 7 damage. This guy: it does about 9 damage.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I’m extremely precise. ;)

[@kazekamiha]

One of the reasons I love Gen 4 is the Phys/Spec split. Made a lot of pokemon more viable. Even loaded with a lot of special moves, though, Dragonite is an able enough mixed attacker.

[@travisleitzel1523]

Pupitars name is pronounced “Pupitar” in the anime. Glad I could help

[@mickgorro]

13 level-up moves, 34 TMs, 5 HMs, 3 tutor moves. 12 level-up moves, 31 TMs, 3 HMs, 3 tutor moves.

[@griffin8762]

nice vid but (and you've probably heard this a hundred times now) you heavily underestimate Tyranitar's special stats with 95 special attack, tyranitar is tied for 10th highest in the game some other pokemon with 95 spA: Electabuzz, Articuno, Kingdra stab cromch is very strong, it's actually the second strongest crunch in the game behind houndoom

[@vfranceschini]

Great content as always! Thanks! Kairyu/Dragonite has been my favourite mon since gen1 xD Cheers!

[@lenlimbo]

11:26 Personally, I think it is faster to just use screech once against scyther to secure the three turns ko against it. Sure, in this case it took the same turns, but that makes it dependant of ranges. On the other hand, it can be argued that using screech you put yourself at the risk of missing the screech, and that's fair. Personal experience tells me that it is better to risk having bad luck with one move than having to be lucky with two, but it is safer to use sandstorm, that much is true. 45:56 Against Pidgeot, I would have used Thunder Punch, just in case. If it survives and uses Mirror Move, Dragonite receives a neutral attack. If it survives Ice Punch (as it happened her), doesn't freeze and uses Mirror Move, Dragonite takes a x4 attack to the face.

[@Bananazu2411]

6:10 Ah yes, everybody's favorite middle-stage Pokémon: Poopitar XD

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

hehe

[@bbugs100]

Dragonite had way more luck during that first playthrough. Felt like my boy tyranitar was getting shafted

[@snowyhyper2352]

Thank you so much this is the best Christmas present evere thank you I love you're videos they are really fun. You could try fools gold if you ever get bored of Pokemon crystal. merry Christmas

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

You're welcome. Merry Christmas!

[@miiitchhh225]

Loving the “month of Scott”

[@milkdud8993]

The dratini line is 100% always named Puff for me lol.

[@obsidianfrost9514]

I really feel two things stacked against t tar here very negatively. Theassivley cut attack for HP flying that was dropped after Bruno, and that atrocious move set vs Red. T Tar should of been able to brute force it's way through relaying on its massive ark stat and natural bulk. Barring critical hits (granted cross chop has boosted CRIT) Bruno's only true threat would of been Machamp but EQ at max attack should have a 80-90% chance at minimum to OHKO it. T Tar went into this at a massive disadvantage and yes his speed is an issue but T Tar was not the King of Gen 2 for no reason Still while I do disagree with why you did some of it, the way you lay it out and explain is so well done and the videos are full of information, but layed out in such a way it doesn't feel cluttered regardless of my salt at seeing my boys moveset atthe end still 10/10 video.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

The attack cut from hidden power flying is not as big as you assume. I assumed it would be worse but it really only changes ranges by 2-4%

[@coldfraps]

Hey Scott. I also wrote a comment on your last video regarding this. Here is one more both for the algorythm and if you didn't see it. If you want help with the data for easy comparison between all runs, I would like to offer my help for free setting it up easily in excel in a couple of ways, so there is something to choose between. Just let me know. If not, I also look forward to your future videos. You are doing really great and i love your videos!

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

Send me an email. I’ve got some help with this already, but I may need more in the future.

[@delfo8063]

You missed the chance to call Dragonite "Denver", I'll just add a correction post-it over his nickname whenever Dragonite appear in battle.

[@zerraticz]

Hello Scott and Denis No idea what to expect, but I predict Dragonite.

[@ReederMG]

Dennis And I just noticed in the video that the Bird Keeper's name is "Denis" and not "Dennis". Is it the same for the fan who comments on your videos? Because if so, I've been spelling his name wrong for a long time

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

It’s “Denis” just one N

[@MrTrollzama]

Does anyone else get mad when their prediction of which Pokémon would be faster is wrong? That damn Dragonite…

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I think a lot of people do. This style of video tends to get proportionally more dislikes. But the comments always tell me that people enjoy these videos more.

[@kowsco]

My boy dragonite proving how great it is

[@shangerdanger]

you need to try a pokemon that starts with dragon rage

[@aaravreddy9263]

He did that with magikarp (an event magikarp) that starts with dragon rage