The Truth About Used Kias

Kia car review. No One Else Has the Balls to Say This About Kias, So I Will, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Kia Forte review. Buying a Kia Forte. Is the Kia Forte worth it? Buying a new Kia. Buying a used Kia. Should I buy a Kia Forte. Are Kias reliable? The truth about the Kia Forte. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 55 years.
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[@scottykilmer]

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[@markevans4645]

Scotty, what do you think about a 2020 charger V6 AWD? I had one as a rental car and my wife loves the thing and wants to trade her 2019 CRV in for it?

[@fffwe3876]

@Back In The Day 2 KIA BOYZ!

[@jasonthejawman5442]

I checked my VIN my Kia Soul ID made in Korea, just like the car in the video

[@mordys6305]

They are junk that can't get out of their own way and have fenders pop lose doing 85 in windy conditions.

[@mordys6305]

@Back In The Day 2 Not when they drive like garbage and fall apart after 5 years if day to day use.

[@ambersmith5673]

Hey Scotty! I'm the daughter of the man who owns this car. We appreciate getting the chance to meet you and you are a very awesome and intelligent individual! Thank you so much for everything you do!

[@fidelcatsro6948]

🐱👍🏿

[@joesmith9483]

it's interesting depending on the year any company can make a great car that last a long time.

[@michaelallen3918]

@@joesmith9483 appears that the Korean built ones give the least problems...

[@mikefoehr235]

Nice

[@okngarod7180]

How often your Dad change the oil.Just curious, thanks.

[@coreysmith2054]

That's my dad's car! Thanks Scotty! He watches you every morning and just loves your channel. He hasn't stopped talking about how he got to meet you. Hes so happy "his video" is out.

[@ambersmith5673]

Hey sis🤣

[@chanoleyva]

Dad?

[@DR.Sailior]

Omg they are sister 😂 amazing

[@davidnoggins9063]

Sisters assemble

[@AB-jk7tw]

Maintenance is absolutely the key to having any car last for a long time.

[@philipmclaughlin9636]

A wise mechanic told me years ago that if you take care of your car, your car will take care of you.

[@mojojoji5493]

@@philipmclaughlin9636honestly that’s should be common knowledge, take care of your body, take care of your house, etc… simple oil change and other expendables should be a given.

[@superdude7459]

But sometimes they'll say you need something you really don't need. 🤔💰

[@ather1276]

Not for kia or Hyundai.

[@-Hussainnn]

Kia and Hyundai are good cars believe it or not​@@ather1276

[@ronbattiston2468]

Scotty I am 74 and have owned over 160 vehicles and my latest one for the last three years is a 2006 Kia Sedona made in Korea. It is working excellent. Lots of room, fun to drive, attractive, comfortable, and to be fair it is one of the best vehicles I have every owned. I understand that you have identified the problems but this is my first Kia and I am very impressed.

[@garykeith1048]

The one I owned was total junk.

[@kevinstarski1598]

A different car every 3 months...well, sometimes it's easier to change cars than a wife

[@MrBlaze256]

ive had over 100 vehicles as well. 90s 2000s kia hyundais are my favorite cars after 2010 they are junks

[@ongakuchan587]

@@kevinstarski1598 he's either a dealer, a collector, or a really bad driver😂

[@sl2608]

But you've only had it 3 years. Time will tell.

[@chuckwalla2967]

My 2009 Borrego 3.8 V6 bought new 13 years ago still runs like new. Close to 200K miles, no oil usage, no noises, everything runs perfectly. Built like a tank.

[@metalmike570]

Most of us don't know Kia's can get 200K miles and still going.

[@stockey]

Same thing with my 2 Borrego, over 250K on each of them, they have been rock solid reliable.

[@coritillman1423]

I've got one too. I love it!

[@tayaria7280]

Anything pre 2011 seems to be more reliable. Newer models have tons of failures and fires reported daily on the Facebook group I follow. I wouldn't recommend getting a newer one.

[@ronnato162]

The Kias from Korea are actually good. The bad reputation comes from the American ones

[@kalebdeason7319]

I actually own a 2015 1.8 Forte and baby it. It's nice to hear it's actually really reliable if I keep it this way.

[@kalebdeason7319]

And it starts with a K, nice!

[@dwadd7528]

I got a 2018 in December. It has less than 7k miles on it and has been back twice for dropping to limp mode from a knock sensor code. That's once before they changed the sensor and once after. The car can't handle rpm load when passing or merging onto the highway. Both times the car dropped to 40mph almost immediately, almost causing pileups. DO NOT BUY A THETA II EQUIPED HYUNDAI OR KIA.

[@kalebdeason7319]

@@dwadd7528 sorry to hear. The 1.8 nu has treated me well.

[@rolandoflores9986]

@@kalebdeason7319is it still treating you good? Im going to buy a 2014 forte today

[@sallyj632]

I learn so much from you Scotty. I had no idea the vin numbers had this info. My husband owns a Kia, but thankfully the Vin begins with a K. So far he's had it for 6 years, after buying it used, and it's still running great.

[@Jay410S]

I had no idea the vin had that info either lol I checked my kia to make sure mine started with the k also lol thankfully it does. I’m at 115K miles and no issues thus far

[@shaunkoher8566]

I have a 2019 Kia Niro. Currently sitting at 341,767 miles. I've replaced the braked at 300k and the egr valve at 200k. Other than that no issues. Most dependable car I've owned in my 25 years of driving. Also own two Toyota prius. Both needed head gasket replacements under 200k miles. All and all very happy Kia owner. My wife also drives a 2019 Kia Niro. Hers is currently around 275k. Only the brakes have been replaced. Also currently needs an egr valve.

[@papa1802able]

How do you you have so many miles on a 2019 car?

[@bruhpr7753]

This guy goes across the country at least 15 a year to be putting on those numbers

[@shaunkoher8566]

@papa1802able I take things places for people. Lol. That's the gist of it. Could be so many things for so many random people and could ultimately delivery any where on this side of the country.

[@abcde4677]

I believe what he says. This is too much of absurd number to be a lie lol

[@michaeldavidfigures9842]

90,000 miles a year. You are a driving bad mamma jamma! I have a friend who is a truck driver. He didn't put that much on his Kenworth last year.

[@jwb7615]

I’ve got a 2015 Kia Optima built in Georgia. 182,000 ish miles. Never been to the shop except for oil changes, tires and brakes. I recently started using it for my side hustle courier job.

[@StonemanRocks]

Have you changed your timing belt?

[@timmarquez713]

About six months ago I sold my 2009 Kia Rondo. Still going strong at 160,000 miles! Not burning or leaking a drop of oil!

[@darrelldean9979]

Scotty, I owned a 2017 Kia Forte and it was a great vehicle. It was one that was made in Mexico and I had no issues with it although it was brand new and I traded it in around 10k miles for another vehicle. No complaints, just needed a bigger vehicle at the time. I currently own a 2011 Kia Soul + with 138k miles and NOT A SINGLE PROBLEM experienced as of yet. My Soul however is one that was manufactured in Korea.

[@kingzionmusic]

Funny thing the soul is the exact same engine as the forte it’s a 2.0 no difference I have a 2017 forte 2.0 I bought new it now has 64k miles no issues all recalls have been done I forgot to mention it was made in Mexico.

[@darrelldean9979]

@kingzionmusic Yeah, I have not had any issues with my Kia Soul yet. 138k miles, but I might need to get the timing chain done.

[@Imakebootysclap]

how can you praise a car you only drove 10k miles at most?

[@darrelldean9979]

@Imakebootysclap Because I can. The vehicle never gave me any issues, and I was meticulous with service schedule.

[@tmichael_54]

'05 Sorento with 198k city miles....original owner. Made in Korea, still limping along.

[@edwardgiorgio2904]

I just made a 1000 mile trip from Charleston SC to my home in New England with my 2013 Kia Rio without a hitch. Great reliable car.

[@Bonsai-Miata2020]

I have a 2013 Rio. Oil changed every 5K, transmission fluid changed every 30K, coolant very 4 years, brake fluid every 4 years. I have 142,000 miles bought it new. And to top it off I tow a jet ski.

[@9lHETbl]

​​@@Bonsai-Miata2020 these cars last forever, you're so lucky owning a one

[@StonemanRocks]

Check your timing belt!

[@Bonsai-Miata2020]

@@StonemanRocks 13 Rio's have a chain

[@ratman7969]

My kia forte 2016 has 194k miles and is still going strong. I replaced the spark plugs myself for maintenance and always change oil every 5k miles. Car looks pretty simple to fix things myself.

[@ninomalo5193]

what engine do you have in your forte?

[@bullbutter2931]

3500 miles max on 1.6 gdi for oil change

[@GamingCookster]

I have a kia soul 2016 at 90k miles, it has no issues at all and still runs like a dream. I hope mine lasts as long as yours!

[@eviljesus6111]

@@GamingCookster 2020 forte 102k miles

[@kuyre2239]

My mom just traded her 2017 Santa Fe sport because it burned 2 Quarts every 1.5k miles. Only had 80k miles. It was ridiculous. She got a 2019 rav 4 with 17k miles. I’m happy she listened to me and got a Toyota.

[@TravisBerthelot]

My 2011 Kia Optima still going strong even after the blizzard this year.

[@metalmike570]

Big Balls Scotty!

[@DeadofWinter321]

My 2015 Kia Forte5 with the 2.0L engine has 98K miles on it and it's been running beautifully. Mine was built in Korea, it's been more reliable than my 2016 Toyota Corolla. I love it.

[@fffwe3876]

My girlfriend had a 2013 Hyundai Sonata and it literally caught on fire.

[@stockey]

@@fffwe3876 all brands have horror stories, even Toyota.

[@DeadofWinter321]

@@fffwe3876 - Why though? That's unusual.

[@henrytom5824]

Does anyone know the cause?

[@samm8809]

The news own is better they gave you 100000 mileage warranty

[@scottemt]

Hi Scotty, I am the original owner of a 2010 KIA Forte that has 287,650 miles on it. It is a 2.0 liter engine with the original engine and transmission. Starting to have some problems now, but I have been happy with it for 13 years! My wife just bought a used 2021 Kia Forte and after seeing this video I checked and her VIN starts with a 3!! I have done most of the maintenance on my own and I am no mechanic. I have been pretty diligent on timely fluid changes, spark plug and coils that kind of stuff, but wish I had seen this video two months ago! Wish me luck!

[@tayaria7280]

Pre 2011 they made them reliable. I wouldn't recommend getting a newer one.

[@maxmaxed2887]

@@tayaria7280 Most folks say the opposite

[@scottemt]

291,000 miles now! Trying to get it to 300 k!

[@Moneyhungrydee26]

Cool I had a 2020 forte I traded It in with like 50k on It now i have a 2023 forte with 28k on It runs good no problem I do Uber and Lyft so I’ll be running miles up but I’ll trade in again after a year or 2

[@chevyblock550]

Did you make it to 300????

[@ridefastjumphigh420]

My first car was a 2012 Kia Optima. I drove it for 10 tears and put 182,000km on it, mostly highway driving. I sold it this summer and it's still going strong for the new owner. It was made in Korea. The interior looked almost identical after all those years. The exterior was starting to show some rust in the typical areas as Canadian winters are notoriously hard on vehicles from the salt used to keep the ice off the roads.

[@joetaylor8687]

Yeah, I think the " . . . made in Korea . . . " was the key.

[@6atlantis]

Very rare a 2012 2.4l or 2.0t Theta 2 engine ends up in Canada. Are you sure it’s not from Tennessee ? and as a matter fact did the Koreans even call it the Optima? Didn’t they use a different name?

[@ridefastjumphigh420]

@@6atlantis I think you may be mistaken. It is 100% made in Korea. It says so on the door placard and the VIN starts with a K which signifies that it was made in Korea. I'm not 100% sure but from the research I did back when I bought it, all the Optima's in Canada at that time were made in Korea and exported to Canada for sale. I also found out that the tow hook attachment on the front bumper that is covered by a circular plug is also used in overseas transport to help secure the vehicle while in the shipping container. I think the Korean models that stayed in Korea were always called the K5. Happy New Year.

[@smolcat7896]

Was it a 2.4 or 2.0

[@ridefastjumphigh420]

@@smolcat7896 2012 Kia Optima SX 2.0L Turbo in Snow White Pearl with 274 HP, 18" Sport Allow Wheels, MSRP $34,095 Financed over 60 months at 0.00% I still have all the purchase agreement documents. Hard to get 0% financing now sadly. It was literally my very first car so I remember almost everything about it and still have the paperwork to reference. Sorry for the long answer, lol.

[@Maxfli82]

You’re absolutely right about the K for being the reason this engine is going so strong Scotty. Made in Korea for Kia’s matter. I have 92,000 miles on my 2016 Kia Sedona SX made in Korea in the engine and transmission are still going strong. With regular maintenance I foresee it going up to 200,000 miles.

[@nibbax7772]

Good afternoon I’m getting offered a 2016 forte lx sedan with 90k miles for 8000 dollars. The vin number starts with a K, you think it’s a good price for this vehicle and worth it?

[@miguelvega7769]

My Kia 2011 Sorento has 310,364 miles and happy as can be 🤷🏽‍♂️Maintenance is key.

[@melissasmess2773]

Replace transmission 😂

[@nuthinbutlove]

@@melissasmess2773 even if the transmission needs replacing after 310,000 miles you can't complain

[@miguelvega7769]

@@melissasmess2773 transmission has already been serviced, it’s actually in good shape, along with the engine, I don’t beat on it or none of that, been to Florida and back and Nyc with no issues

[@navinstrument8353]

Where was it built?

[@miguelvega7769]

@@FURDOG1961 2.4 and not sure where it was made

[@cliffco823]

I bought my 2013 Optima SXL in 2014. Just passed 150k miles. My daily driver and Ilive and work in DC area. The engine did have a recall, but Kia replaced with no problem. They changed the belt while the engine was being replaced. Great car.

[@smolcat7896]

Is it a 2.4 or a 2.0

[@cliffco823]

@@smolcat7896 it's the 2.0 turbo

[@princesprincess1413]

If you still have the car, how is it holding up now? I'm looking to buy a 2016 optima sxl

[@MarkM58]

Since 2004, my family has owned 8 KIAs (2 Optimas, 1 Sportage, 1 Soul, 3 Sorentos, 1 Carnival. We have ZERO serious problems. Just a couple of minor electronic issues that were easily fixed and covered by the warranty. Now, I don't put massive mileage on my cars. No matter the manufacturer, I get rid of them around 70k. I get tired of them.

[@prestoconner4004]

Thank you Scotty for admitting there are exceptions. lol My Kia Sportage (2009) has 217K miles and puurrrrsss like a kitten. :-) 1.6 liter, so not much strain. I think if you take good care of your vehicle and don't beat on it, it will last, no matter what car you buy........within reason. 🙂

[@amandeepbaa6978]

Well unicorn exception even eastern world kia r turd

[@metalmike570]

Big Balls Scotty!

[@CTGDesigner]

Not Chryslers.... garbage. Bad transmissions.

[@robbflynn4325]

We have a 2017 Elantra, now has over 100,000 miles. No problems apart from failed ignition coil, $80 fix. Excellent gas mileage and looks and drives great. Burns no oil.

[@oreally8605]

You must drive it under 100 miles a day.

[@turkeybobjr]

Man that ignition coil going out is the indicator your engine is about to go... trade that thing in for a Toyota ASAP!

[@chronocross7174]

Imagine being Scotty’s neighbor lol “hey Scotty! My cars making funny noises! Can you check it for me please?” 😂

[@kelticink]

That was my dad when he was alive..everyone telling him what sounds and such there car is making🤣🤣mechanics get no days off, especially when they own the shop

[@Cheesesteakwithfriedonions]

I have the same exact engine in my 2013 Elantra. 150,000 runs like a clock. Changed the full synthetic oil every 5000-6000 miles. Car runs like day 1. Only thing that’s been replaced are tires and battery.

[@davidlp3019]

A warning to anyone buying one of these. Some of these 1.8l motors had a problem with piston slap that eventually grenades the motor. 2013 seem to be the most affected, but can technically be any 1.8 from 2011 to 2015 or so. There was a recall for this engine so if you look at one and it's ticking or knocking don't buy it.

[@europana7]

Mine has been slapping from 90k to its current 170k. Slap only occurs at start up and there’s a very slight ticking sound after engine fully warms up. 5k OCI using full synth and car will last forever. Don’t forget to also svc the tranny fluid.

[@joearreola5807]

On the drive belt thing, I always buy a new one and throw the old one in the trunk along with the tools to replace it.

[@robertbweltzien]

Hey Scotty I listen to your podcast on the way to work everyday in CT. I too own a KIA, a '12 Optima SX (made in Alabama) that I bought used off of GF for $2,000. I used to run a garage in the eighties, so I can go on the cheap for repairs. This car has had every brake part at every wheel, the entire front suspension and an engine replaced, along with tires every 35K. The engine I got for free off of KIA although they charged me $900 for wiring they broke. In all, 6K into the car with 130K miles, 10 of it on a new engine. I hope to get another 5 years out of it. I will say that it goes like a scalded dog and I have achieved 36 mpg driving very conservatively. Perhaps if you wanted to do another podcast on KIA when you are in the northeast I could help. Take care and keep up the great work you are doing!

[@PegasusBYU]

I bought a 2010 Kia Forte when it was new. Drove it for 13 years…only had 1 issue (fuel pump at 100k miles). Recently sold it (150,000 miles) But you’re right…it was made in Korea and I was religious about maintenance.

[@ericcollins8794]

Had a 13 kia forte made in Korea no problems

[@JHargraves1182]

I had a 2010 Hyundai Accent, base model and standard transmission. Built in South Korea and never had an issue with that little car. Sure the 1.6 had no power, but it was reliable as could be!

[@tom4342]

I had a 2001 solid little car

[@JHargraves1182]

I traded it in with 110,000 miles. Not a ton of miles, but it ran great and I never had to do anything to it besides oil changes, brakes and tires. Not bad at all for a car I paid $10,000 for brand new.

[@tom4342]

@@JHargraves1182 paid 9 for mine had to let it report with 7k miles daughter was diagnosed with Cancer in 2002 medical bills bankrupt me

[@jeffkelly5972]

I am still driving my 2013 Kia Rio with 220,000 miles. I went through a belt 3 sets of tires and brakes and a alternator. It may not last much longer the engine now has a ticking sound when you accelerate but it did ok.

[@edwardjames6070]

how often did you change oil?

[@jeffkelly5972]

@@edwardjames6070 every 3000 miles

[@jeffkelly5972]

@@FURDOG1961 I had to go to the garage and look the plate on the drivers side door says Korea I don't know the engine size at the time I bought it I got the cheapest thing I could find I drove 130 miles a day to and from work.

[@richsweeney1115]

I hope you've changed the tranny fluid if it's an automatic.... the ticking could just be a lifter or a little valve noise....it doesn't mean a lot just bc it's ticking

[@jeffkelly5972]

@@richsweeney1115 I have never changed any fluids just oil changes.

[@guszervos5260]

All Kia models made in Korea, no matter the year, are really good, well-built cars.

[@cccp2007]

Yeah im with an used 2022 Kia Forte, considering the price i paid not a bad deal, just oil changes and tire changes, 60 thousand miles right now.

[@seth_ap148]

There was a Hyundai Elantra with the same engine and trans that drove 1,000,000 miles. My Forte with the Theta II is at 193k miles never had any issues.

[@JohnnyTyrone77]

The older Hyundai/Kia’s 1995-2011 are more reliable than the newer models. I drove a 2010 Kia Forte and sold it at 104,000. Good car very reliable.I still drive a 2006 Hyundai Sonata V6 145,000 miles and a 2004 Hyundai Tiburon V6 with 101,000 miles…Basically only done oil changes and brake replacement. (Starter on Sonata and Timing belt on Tiburon) I don’t trust the newer ones. After my research the 2012-2022 models are suspect!

[@johneddys2351]

The Kia Hyundai 2.0 engine from the late 90s to the early 2010's was bullet proof and long lasting.

[@redsaint2022]

2010 Kia Forte Ex made in Korea, all orginal with 180,000 miles, so far I’ve only had to replace minor things like a air sensor, brake pedal sensor, tail light bulbs did it myself for under $50 Had to clean fuel injectors because it wasn’t accelerating past 25-30mph that seemed to fix it and it’s been 2 years since, starts everytime all the time 😁 I’m running it till the wheels fall off.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

clogged injectors under 200k miles? thats pretty bad lol.

[@robmalcolm8042]

@@Pepe-dq2ib you’d be surprised even with Toyotas made in japan what things can go wrong

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

@@robmalcolm8042 nothing is absolute, but generally, they are fine.

[@IamCooper-rk5bn]

@@Pepe-dq2ib That’s what happens when you don’t change fuel filters. Nothing surprising there.

[@Slapzman]

I have a 2007 Kia rondo. 249 thousand miles, all the servicing done at the recommended milage, including timing belt 3 times! Thing runs beautifully I must say. I want to check the VIN and see where the engine was made now

[@adelgado523]

Now I’m checking the vin on the cars this helps so much thank you!

[@rickybobby7276]

I loved what you said about warranties. When my full warranty didn’t cover a battery I knew they were a scam and will never get any warranty ever again. Warranties are only good to the extent you can enforce them and car companies have lawyers that spend all day screwing hard working people over and will squish you like a bug when you try and have the warranty work you are owed.

[@wigletron2846]

Warranties usually don't cover wear items like batteries

[@jamesbranham2217]

I know a girl that had a 2011 kia soul over 100k on it.. changed tires once.. other than that just oil and air filter.. her daughter wrecked it.. now she has a 2020 soul 42 k same.. no issues just oil changes.. one of the best cars out there period

[@uffdabike9503]

My 1998 Buick LeSabre has over 220,000 miles on it and has the original engine and tranny. and no rust. Well over half of those miles were spent here in Minnesota without a garage. The other millage was spent in California.

[@markspeltz2074]

3.8L I’m gonna guess? Holding on to my 2002 Grand Prix with that engine until something major goes. 156k and going strong!

[@uffdabike9503]

@@markspeltz2074 3800, one of the best engines ever made.

[@Ridgerunner49]

Scotty my 2013 Kia forte runs like a sewing machine it's great Had to replace a AC compressor

[@sirjohndoeofpa3292]

Goes as fast as one too

[@petrejack]

Have a 2007 Spectra with 220+k miles. Got used , original engine, uses no oil! Had other problems last few years, but not bad for 15 years!

[@susanlister753]

My 2008 Rio has the L5 engine and the 5 speed standard. There have been many of the usual wear and tear items but in 308000 kms I still hope to have it last long enough to outwait some of the teething problems with EV's. Rock auto is my go to but the local dealer is also helpful. This car is MORE comfortable than my 1983 380SEL Mercedes was (the seating, not the ride), as well as a host of other cars such as Volvos, Oldsmobiles, Pontiacs and Fords. No topping of oil between changes. No bells, no whistles. I hope that they make an EV that is this basic. My TOtal Cost of Ownership is stable at .24$ Cdn/ kilometer and the total to date on this little gem is in the mid $50,000 range all-in for the fourteen years so far. This Kia rocks.. it is of Korean manufacture (KNADE......)

[@lancelotbustillo6455]

I do agree that Kias and hyundais made in korea are much better, we owned a hyundai accent 1996 stick shift. The creature comforts where all broken, ac, radio, front electric windows, but the engine runs great for a hyundai thats 211,000 miles. We still get 35mpg from a car that was rated at 33.

[@labornurse]

That's great, they were such crackerjack cars back then.

[@cmdrflake]

Kia is an odd duck. South Korea has a great reputation for quality products ( tires, cute girls) Building their cars in Mexico or the US was a blunder they could have done without!

[@STho205]

It is usually the mix of parts...not the assembly plant. A vehicle with three different engines cast in Korea are likely to be sent exclusively to three different plants. The dud engine (or transmission or wiring assembly) gives that plant the bad rep.

[@STho205]

The 1800cc 16v DOHC motor in the Korean built cars is a 90s Mazda Miata knockoff. The 2L and 2.5L are not.

[@edwardjames6070]

I think ALL cars made in US are substandard and have been for a while.

[@fromthebackofmymind]

Quality rubber is important for cute girls.

[@theanimaster]

@@fromthebackofmymind damn straight!

[@edwardjames6070]

I have a 2013 soul. I agree with Scotty about making sure it's not made in mexico or US. I have been asked about buying a kia by people on the street and pretty much say the same thing Scotty says. make sure it's made in korea. I also change the oil every 3000 miles AND my car is the 2.0. maybe it'll fail, but I am doing all I can to have it for a long time. it has already earned it's keep.

[@mikke73]

Making sure a car is not made in US is generally speaking a good advice.

[@BionicleC4]

I own two 2010 Fortes, one is a Koup. The 4 door was my first ever car gifted to me by my parents, and I have owned it ever since. My Koup is my third ever car, and it was gifted to me after my Jeep died. Both cars have over 150k miles, but the Koup (230k miles on frame) is the only one who had an engine swap due to the previous owners wanting to put a big bigger engine in it, so now it has a 70k miles 2.4L which has been tuned to push about 200 hrspr. I love both my fortes, more than anything I have ever driven. I can attest to the older models durability, and my rule of thumb is as long as you take care of them, they will take you everywhere. Upon watching this video, I instantly went to check the vins on both my cars and they both have the K in the vin. So I am thinking, that is probably why they have lasted me this long without issues. Very useful information!

[@americanpaisareturns9051]

“Has original engine and original transmission.” Meanwhile my 2016 Sentra has had 3 heart transplants

[@feartheturtle9618]

KIA switched the 2.0 to a 2.0 MPI engine and fixed the piston issue.

[@MathiasMaximus]

I have a 2010 Kia Rio with 90k miles. I had to replace the starter at 75k and an ignition coil at 85k (number 2. The same as the car in the video). Mine has a "K" vin number so it's it's made in Korea. I live in New England so I think the starter died from water/salt exposure. My ABS light comes on once in while and I also had an exhaust hanger that broke and needed to be welded. I plan on driving it for a while. Repairs were fairly simple

[@Pebbles2639]

My old 2014 forte ex was bullet proof I chased storms in that thing had the engine bay fully underwater multiple times chasing storms. I was jumping curbs everything in that car it was stupid reliable. I now own a 22 stinger gt2 and love it. Kia makes great cars anyone that says otherwise is dumb. btw the stinger is the best car made in the last decade easy perfect blend of performance, luxury and practicality. I hope kia realizes their mistake and does not in fact kill not only their best car, but the best car in the last 10+ years to be created.

[@johnfranks2232]

Had a 2000 Kia Sephia for ten years. My mechanic said it was “a pretty good, cheap-made foreign car.” It wasn’t a bad car, and I put a lot of hard miles on it. It finally died at about 130,000 miles. It could’ve lived longer, but at a certain point, fixing it wasn’t cost-effective.

[@melissasmess2773]

Man that's a lot of driving for a 2000 model and about the life of their cars😂

[@briantorres7339]

The 2000 Kia Sephia has a Mazda 1.8L 4, the same one from the Protege.

[@MrBlaze256]

​@@briantorres7339i thought it was the miata engine

[@danielamendoza5471]

I got my used KIA RIO 2013 with 132k miles on it a year ago, now it has 158k and so far we love it. We use it daily as a commuter car, the only issue is that when we first got it the last owner never had changed the transmission fluid has the " owner manual" recommend, we had a really hard time founding a kia dealer who wanted to change the fluid. Finally found one who did, not to expensive at all. Hope mine last at least a few more years.

[@reynaldoguillen499]

Hey Scotty I got a 2007 Kia Rio base model made in Korea I have 318,000 Mi on it doesn't waste any oil I maintained it myself it's a standard so no transmission problems and I bought a new Toyota Corolla to replace it but it won't die! Kids are pretty good if you take care of them thanks

[@richsweeney1115]

No, the Korean ones are good.....I know people who have kias made in other pleases that were maintained that blew the motor....they're not made well unless they were built in korea

[@dominionian7193]

I have a 2013 Hyundai Elantra with what I believe is the same 1.8L engine as this. 170K miles on it, and still running like a champ.

[@Tingtong-gg5oe]

Finally an accurate review about kia and hyundai, I love my korean made one.

[@richsweeney1115]

He always does accurate views of them.......the ones not made in Korea are usually junk...this one isnt...he has always given real reeviews

[@RRLV434]

@@richsweeney1115 yeah but Scotty’s problem is most people who bring him cars (I’ve noticed especially Kia) do not change there oil or do the maintenance. This guy changes it on intervals and did all the maintenance. His car is also very clean (another sign that he care about his car).

[@danLTa1]

Should I go with Toyota or Honda or k Kia or Hyundai

[@richsweeney1115]

@@danLTa1 honda.... Hondas are just my fave. Then toyota. But ,A Korean Kia might be ok

[@richsweeney1115]

@@RRLV434of course maintainance effects it. it's because it's a Korean model.ive known peopleqho had never kias, that did maintain them, theta still blew motors

[@BobSmith-tn2qp]

GDI engine stands for Gets Deposits Inside so you have keep using carbon cleaners, kia charges 200.00 dollars every 15,000 miles to clean the engines or voids the warranty if not done before 50,000 miles, some kia dealers say they charge 160.00 for fuel induction service, but that's labor only, not parts and fees

[@liordagan9342]

In Israel, Kias are popular with several Kibbutzim. My wife's kibbutz uses many kias, as communal vehicles, and sell them after they had around 220,000 miles on them. They have several dozens of them, at any given time, and these cars go easily 60,000 miles a year. On top of that, the cars run mostly on LPG. If these cars weren't built to last (like the French cars), the Kibbutzim wouldn't have bought so many of them, for over a decade. Their gas mileage, though, is not as good as Toyota and Honda. This is why they have LPG installed.

[@u.e.u.e.]

- no GDI ✔️ - no turbo ✔️ - oil change from time to time ✔️ No problems! 😃👍

[@benaiah7418]

GDI?

[@u.e.u.e.]

@@benaiah7418 GDI would be gasoline direct injection, that needs a high pressure pump and brings intake valves with a lot of carbon build-up. But this car has trouble-free port injection. 😉👍

[@jarana10]

So no GDI means the car would last longer ?

[@u.e.u.e.]

@@jarana10 Yes, no carbon build-up on the intake valves.

[@sirjohndoeofpa3292]

All 4 KIA's I've owned (still have them) out lasted our Toyota's

[@davidguarin358]

I bought a 2013 Kia Rio brand new I changed the oil (13) time during his 123 thousand miles. I changed his tireds twice and 3 batteries 🪫 I didn’t do nothing else after 7 years of used . I sold it in 2020 And I remorse to sold it Was the best little car 🚗 And best car I owned

[@jarana10]

Was that the GDI version? And how much did you sold it ?

[@davidguarin358]

@@jarana10 I trade in the car 🚗 at the beginning of the pandemic 😷 and it was a good deal , hard to decline they recognize like 6 thousand for the car 🚘 but also decreased the value on the new one I got turbo forte GT for 16 thousand out of the dealer at 260 dollars a month Car 🚗 will be pay off in 10 months from now/ but I can say the Rio was a better car

[@chestermiller8507]

Hey Scotty I enjoy the way you tell it like it,honestly. I've got a 2010 kia soul with the 2.0. It's got 312 thousand miles and I'm getting ready to put my second timing belt on. Have replaced a starter and alternator, did one brake job,other than that it's still running good. Hope to get atleast another thousand miles out of it. With regular maintenance, who knows how many miles I'll finally end up with. Again, I enjoy your videos, keep them going.

[@richsweeney1115]

You're putting a timing belt on and you're only hoping for another 1000 miles? I hope you meant 100k ..lol

[@zerotoinfmath]

312K all on the first timing belt? The service manual says to change at 60K!

[@strawdog68]

Hey Scotty I had a 2006 KIA Rondo 2.4 L. At about 90000 miles the main bearings went. I had been taking the car back religiously for free oil changes at the dealer so they honored the 100000 mile warranty and replaced the bottom end of the engine. At 214000 miles I discovered that the sub frame had rotted though. I took a chance and called the dealer who put me in touch with their corporate office in California and they actually bought the car back from me for 2600 dollars. They also offered to put a new sub frame in but I opted for the cash. Although the engine was strong I didn't want to take a chance. I would have to say for the most part that owning a KIA was not to bad of a experience. For the record my family between the 8 of us own 6 Toyotas and haven't had any major issues other the brakes and struts the usual things . Two of them are Priuses. Great channel. Keep up the good work. Jeff

[@saabguy8809]

We’ve had 4 Kia’s that have gone between 2-300,000 mi. As far as you always talk about oil burning, tell me why my 2016 Porsche Panamera owners manual says it’s “NORMAL FOR THE CAR TO USE UP TO A QUART OIL PER 1600 MILES” and it does. Mechanics have all told me it’s normal. Can you explain what that is normal but oil burning in other cars isn’t?

[@labornurse]

Not normal

[@MVRWC]

2017 Sportage, 108,000 miles. So far so good! Love it.

[@gord2358]

It sounds like Kias' Extended Warranty means that Kia extends the time before they finally fix it.

[@anaphylastiks]

My 95 Toyota Carib ABS still works great. It's got 350,000kms.

[@wegder]

My Honda Civic has 250k trouble free miles so far, 40 mpg, I'm hoping to get 300k before I get a new or newer car.

[@malekodesouza7255]

Haha! I just checked my wife’s ‘17 Sportage. VIN starts with “K”. Hilarious. The car has honestly been great. My only complaint is it gets lousy mileage for a small 4 cylinder. But, it was $29K out the door with leather & heated everything, 4WD LED lights etc.

[@jacobyo99]

I don’t understand why those Sportages get such terrible gas mileage

[@ibradeybunch]

How many miles a gallon?

[@Griffen427]

@@ibradeybunch The older Sportages only get around 24-26mpg highway

[@erindixon2877]

It’s the all wheel drive. All the extras need to have all wheel drive make the car heavier than a front wheel drive vehicle. Heavier vehicles use more gas. I have a Mazda CX-9 with all wheel drive and the only way I can get sort of decent mpg is to drive conservatively and use no or low ethanol gas.

[@malekodesouza7255]

@@jacobyo99 me either. It the 2.4 liter, AWD model. I’m sure the AWD effects mpg’s negativity… but it should get better than 21 combined IMO.

[@GrImReApPeR99]

I have a 2015 kia forte with the 2.0L GDI I4. When I bought the car it was at 120,000 miles with mainly city miles from new york of all places. Well at 130,000 miles that sucker blew up no surprise there. Appearently it had chips in the oil guides in the crankshaft. I did get a new engine but only due to the Maxcare warranty from Carmax at the end but had to wait a month for it to be said and done and I only got a rental for one of those weeks. It will definitely be the last kia I ever buy but I'm hopefully going to just ride out this new engine to hopefully another 120,000 miles if the transmission lasts that long at least.

[@bixbyswrath7639]

Your car would have lasted longer if it WAS NOT a GDI engine. GDI engines are the main culprit of all those Kia car fires because the GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection) injector pipe can actually suffer a crack and spew fuel all over the engine.

[@Dakiraun]

I just read that story about the guy in London, ON (that's where I live too) - I'm not surprised they're screwing him over, the Kia dealer here has _terrible_ customer service when it comes to warranty work.

[@melissasmess2773]

Yup, if it still moves at all they won't help you.

[@ChellyB71]

The who customer service process is a joke and the upper management is dismissive and condescending. They're terrible

[@Dakiraun]

@@lucienswift447 Given I have been to that dealer with a prior car I owned - the latter. :/

[@attnielthomas7856]

Happy New Year Scotty and all (pre-) 2023. I gave a thumbs up for him changing the baf coil.

[@kmath50]

I have a 2016 Optima with the 2.4. The VIN starts with "5" which means the assembly plant outside of Atlanta. I had the software upgrade done, and it is now warrantied to 15 years and 150,000 miles. I guess I will have to see what happens. I really like the way it drives and looks, so that is why I bought it.

[@drizler]

Keep that warranty habit because you’ll definitely be needing it. Those Sorento and Sonata 2 , 2.4 have the habit of puking around 120k. Look around you’ll see it’s a very old sad tale. On the other hand if you can live with that hey drive it till it’s dead. Trade ins abysmal anyways unless it’s for another one……

[@jeffrobertson6019]

I had a 2015 Elantra. Exactly the same car, and my engine went on it. I'm in Canada, and it wasn't three years old before my pistons were slapping. I don't drive my cars hard and I commute to work. I traded it on my 2019 Ford escape. Transmission worked on. I all ready want to get rid of it. Mazda or Toyota next.

[@stickybuns8626]

LMAO! Scotty stop giving away my secrets! Every Kia/Hyundai i've owned or own runs like a top and I specifically look for KN in the vin every purchase. In this current time you can't pick a car wrong as long as you make sure it wasn't assembled in North or South America.

[@AB-ot3bc]

I have a 2013 Kia Forte that I bought brand new with 3 or 4 miles on it and yes I have changed a few parts but it’s got almost 200 thousand miles on it and it’s got the original motor and transmission and it doesn’t burn oil. It runs great

[@bobert59]

Inherited my mom's 04 Sedona 3.5L, Korean made. Only 67k on the odo. Was gulping some serious oil but changed the pcv valve like you said and it stopped. Tie rod ends were shot but that was an easy swap. Next up are the front struts. Not a daily driver since gas mileage is pretty awful but it's good for hauling lots of stuff like camping gear. Plenty of room for an inflatable mattress. Great for car camping or music festivals. I drove it to high school way back when, my buddies nicknamed it the shaggin wagon. Plenty of room for that as well 😉

[@jacobdarrigan826]

Just bought one that’s in near perfect condition but with a little engine tick, I’ve known kias to go hundreds of thousands of kms with ticky motors. I’m very happy with it to be honest. It gets out of its own way, incredibly surprising amount of room on the inside (I’m 6’4 230+ and fit with a lot of head room and leg space)

[@jimmerkerlin5005]

We used our KIA's like wealthy people utilize the high end German cars... my business leased them. We stayed right around the allowed mileage over the 3 years. No problems. We were able to depreciate it over the 3 years and got smoking deals on both of them. A Soul & an Optima Hybrid. Loved them both! 😎👍

[@labornurse]

Poor man leases, good on u

[@jimmerkerlin5005]

@@hhjhj393, leasing can make sense. Check with your tax person if you have one. The advantages for us: Depreciation Always under warranty Cost less monthly than a purchase

[@iamteamBB]

my old neighbor had just gotten one before being arrested. he ran the engine from time to time while on house arrest. 30k. but burns oil. what junk

[@melissasmess2773]

Maybe find a better neighborhood😂

[@fredsimmons6188]

I bought my daughter an 01 Kia Rio back in 2013 for 800 bucks. She passed it to my son in 2017. It's falling apart. The door panels are falling off. The front bumper is hanging on by a prayer. We had to bypass the A/C compressor because it was seized, and it rattles like an old sewing machine. But my son drives it 18 miles everyday to work. I have to admit, it was 800 bucks well spent.

[@richsweeney1115]

Why don't you just fix the door panels and bumper..and the rattle....the cosmetic things are easy to fix....

[@Suestra]

As far as I know, the 2014-2016 1.8 and 2.0 models made in South Korea, are both MPI and not GDI. The problem are the GDI models, these break a lot. No problems at all with the MPI ones. Trust me, my brother is a Kia mechanic in the Netherlands. I have a Forte myself, 2.0, with 150.000 km.

[@cachesolo1534]

I have a kia forte 2011 LX and just recently changed the transmission fluid since it was going into the limp mode. Replaced the AT fluid and runs like new. The brake fluid wasn't even changed for more than 10 years and still functioned like new. Survived a freak accident back in 2013 and was the only car to drive home without issues whereas two cars had to be towed. No engine problems and use synthetic mobile 1 oil instead of conventional every 10k miles.

[@GabrielOlaruRay]

Same think in europe kia and Hyundai are one of the best when it comes to reliability

[@drivingfailsofsacramento]

I have an 08 Kia Spectra, made in Korea. 228k miles on it. Transmission died at about 101k though. Gonna try to see how long it'll last me, drive it till it dies 🤞🤞

[@victorbjr23]

Got a 08 spectra 207 thousand miles on it got it for 2k had it for 2 years zero problems at all

[@greggc8088]

Step daughter has a 2011 Kia Soul with 220K original engine and transmission but I've kept the fluids changed and ran 5W-30 for most it's life. And replaced 2 timing belts at 90K each. Plus spark plugs, a purge valve, and a recent valve cover gasket.

[@bobdylan6773]

All the cars they make are no good. it is foolish to buy them

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Trans. died LOL my manual is 204k miles works fine.

[@labornurse]

Might as well, now

[@bigbadjohnpesek9894]

My wife and I bought a used Sorrento. It is the v6 and it will smoke the tires. Not that we do it. But where we live we drive about 90% highway miles and get 30 mpg. Love it.

[@stephenrogers4537]

Good afternoon Scotty👋🏻 from Chicago☃️ hope this day finds you and your family well,👨‍🎓🧰🙌🏆👍BROTHER!

[@billsgtr5383]

Bought a Kia optima ex gdi 2011 173k miles in July 2022 it is now 201k miles no problems got oil changes every 4,000 miles changed the alternator and starter only problems

[@markhernandez5760]

The ones made in Korea are better. My Niro was made in Korea and has 85k with no problems

[@yeldarBkereD]

To be honest, outside of unforseen new build defects, any car you buy should make it past 85k with no problems. Even the cheapest and crappily made cars will make it to the warranty without issues. A well made vehicle should make it to 150k miles without issues, and a superbly made car should make it 200k plus. The biggest issue with cheap vehicles is that they are usually made cheaply, and the people who generally buy cheap vehicles arent as proactive about maintenance, compounding the issues of a cheaply made product. Are KIA/Hyundai vehicles bad? No. They are cheaply made, and that's ok, but they are all still very cheaply made. Just doing regular maintenance, you'll never get the longevity of a Toyota or a Honda, but then again, you'll never get a new Toyota or a Honda as cheaply as a Kia or Hyundai. Again, both Kia and Hyundai are cheaply made vehicles, but thats ok. They are filling a niche that Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge largely abandoned years ago.

[@clsybear]

I have a 2008 Kia Sorrento for 225,000 miles on it and it runs like a top like a new car

[@navinstrument8353]

@@clsybear where was it manufactured?

[@flavius_stilichon4707]

Those made in Slovakia are not bad either.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

wow 225k miles? thats bulletproof, toyota could learn a thing or two from the Kia reliability.

[@monkeymenso]

I have 2 kias, sportage and soul, and I don't have any problem with them, but the good thing about it is that both of them are made in Korea.

[@heliomartins8593]

I love Scotty's advices. Very clever and usefulness... Advice number 3 : run 😆👍

[@josephsliker8628]

I have a 2015 with just shy of 247,000 miles, most of them highway. Consistently gets 41-43mpg, no oil leaks, doesn’t burn oil. I changed all the coils at 200k just to do it, and I still have the original serpentine belt. I did have to do a wheel bearing on the passenger side which led to replacing the lower ball joint and cv axle on that side as well. Original owner, bought with 9 miles on it.

[@MrWhitelightning73]

Like my grandfather once said, today, things are built to sell. Not to last.

[@klujics123]

Have a ‘15 Kia optima turbo, made in Georgia. Kia replaced the engine for free had 149000 on it. If you cannot document with receipts that you had your oil changes done every 7,500 miles or less then they will not replace your engine. We were fortunate that I had all my oil changes at the dealer 6,500 miles or less, every 6 months or less…. Plus I have a pretty good relationship with the dealer. (If you have an Uber sticker on your car they will also reject you.) Bottom line…if your car is in the high risk category Scotty spoke of…and you cannot document every on time oil change then (even though it’s a good looking car…), you had better trade it in or sell it to car max, before you become a casualty of Kia. Take care & God Bless.

[@mauricekwurue4974]

Kia has gone a long way. My Kia Stinger has 65,000km, and it's still drives like new. Wife's Telluride also has 80,000km with no problem other than oil changes.

[@amandeepbaa6978]

65k 85k lol lmao drive them till 150-200k in city driving condition u will know the real truth behind fantasy

[@brenttitus2134]

They come so far they killed off the Stinger! 🤭😆

[@TFSIChristmas]

Great! Keep up the regular maintenances keep taking care what you own. Happy Holidays!

[@paulcarlin5181]

@@amandeepbaa6978 The average person puts about 14-15k a year on a commute car. Who wants to drive the same car with outdated technology for 14 years or so? I based that on your 200k miles. I could see keeping a truck "forever" because it can be used for so much, but not your average car. Just my opinion.

[@amandeepbaa6978]

@@paulcarlin5181 lol I have 98 4RUNNER over 500k mileage don't know long I want to keep but certainly a keeper for life like this I also have camry and taco with high mileage. Before this have hyunda and f150 but didn't last long enough

[@slimcastillo8786]

That's it Im sticking with My Toyota! My Toyota is 20 yrs old and I NEVER had any problems with it!

[@WissamAlghuraibawi]

Hi Scotty, thanks for your videos. Do you think you can make a video test driving Kia Telluride? You know this car is very popular and it has been rated by many auto websites for the last few years as the best 3-row midsize SUV. I myself recently purchased a 2023 Telluride, but still, hesitant because it's Kia

[@amandeepbaa6978]

Cuz of suv popularity and demand

[@RRLV434]

It’s a great car just make sure you do the scheduled maintenance. Your lucky that you were able to get one in todays crazy market.

[@azaelames5309]

But you already bought it lol

[@henrytom5824]

@@RRLV434 I’d have to argue that the maintenance scheduled is dependent on how one drives the car many folks fall under severe maintenance intervals but don’t know it. Mostly city driving, hot climates, short tripping, prolonged idling. All of that should be accounted for to determine oil intervals atleast that’s how I look at it I change every 4k.