Why Saturn Cars Are So Bad, What Went Wrong

Saturn car review. Why Saturn Cars Are So Bad, What Went Wrong, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Is Saturn reliable? Is Saturn a good car? Is Saturn worth buying? Buying a used Saturn car. Should I buy a Saturn? The history of Saturn cars. Car buying tips. What type of car to buy. Car buying guide. Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 52 years.
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[@masternobody1896]

they are bad because they did not listen to scotty

[@shermanpruitt1285]

Scotty HELP, I have a 2010 Chevy impala v6 3.5 k with 200,150 miles the car start up and everything but when I put in Drive and want go but it will go back I think its SOMTHING wrong with my transmission I think I should buy another transmission for $500 but anyway I need to make runs in my car for my grandma but I can't because my car is down I don't know what to do? Mostly every thing is fine on the car if you tell me to buy the $500 transmission or just buy the broken piece for it the only thing I have to do is change the oil and transmission fluid and buy 2 front tires and brakes a new pully and belt.

[@masternobody1896]

thanks for the love scotty

[@Tsalinger]

Take the plates off and abandon it????? Might get alittle knock on the door with a bill. Around here you call up charities and they pick it up and you can write it off on your taxes. Everyone wins.

[@tomjohns5146]

my saturn lasted 15 years NO PROBLEMS AT ALL it depends how to DRIVE and change fluids !!!!

[@vincescalise4821]

I am a Toyota guy but any car that’s been on the road for 22 years deserves at least a little bit Of credit

[@YEET-yh6qc]

Yeah Saturn isn't bad the 4cyl were the best always manuals ive seen a 2002 run good it was a manual. They're not like fiats or BMWs but they're closer to neons and i drive a 2000 Plymouth neon everything works i installed a hitch and tranny cooler to haul a small camper trailer possibly a tear drop but i need a good offer

[@YEET-yh6qc]

He's just being edgy on a ok maybe decent car. Provocative for views. He even agrees they were good from the early 90s

[@YEET-yh6qc]

I am a Toyota guy too but i end up enjoying Suzuki more in 4x4 my dream 4x4 is a Toyota Tacoma 1990s and a Suzuki samurai or geo tracker and or a fj or grand vitara. I want a pontiac vive or Toyota matrix same thing

[@ausspinnathein1626]

A lot of cars last 20 if it doesn't have a huge amounts of miles and wasn't abused lol

[@ausspinnathein1626]

Most of the cars that don't last 20 years are South Korean cars and American cars.. 😂

[@lynx2cross]

He just said it’s a 1998 vehicle and just now having transmission issues in 2020, sounds like it’s been pretty reliable.

[@prioris55555]

yep, i avoid automatic transmissions period ... keeps maintenance costs low i had to replace manual transmission ... cost me $650 ... averaged very low maintenance cost over the years

[@robertgary3561]

There is actually a simple solution posted to the slamming issue in saturns. The valve body can be removed easily in the car to service.

[@LarryLopez91]

Did you see the odometer reading?

[@davidtrevi2914]

The cool part with those Saturns is that, the transmission filter is actually one designed like an oil filter. No mess. Just unscrew and drain from bottom. However, there are later models that have the conventional trans pan and gasket.

[@markc5677]

Exactly!!! Most domestic cars wouldn't last half that time.

[@krazyivan007]

Car's lasted 20 years. Scotty: "it sucks"

[@juliethurgood3667]

KrazyIvanUSA gOdDaMn mOnEy PiTs

[@YureiZenSakura]

His Toyota lasted longer bruh lmao

[@charbelmoussa3006]

Meanwhile, a 4runer in this video witg almost 500 000 miles only drips some oil

[@anthonykulhanek1307]

I know people who have 450,000 miles on these saturns

[@BigWheel.]

@Sidney Grove dont buy an ion, it's got the eco tec in it, unless you're fine with that, and don't get it unless its a manual the autos aren't worth it at that price

[@keeranimal8]

Had a 92 Saturn in the later 90s while in college/military...performed pretty well. In Jan 2000 someone cut me off and I lost control on a wet road and spun all over the place. Ended up settling sideways on the interstate with traffic coming towards my driver side. Finally got T-boned by a semi carrying tons of scrap metal. Slung me around so fast I watched the rear trailer wheels pretty much roll over the hood of my car. Car was totalled...all I got was a bump on the head. Saturn will always be ok in my book...

[@amishcar]

Seen two Saturn S Series aka the real Saturns place second and first place in Demo Derbys. Those cars can take a beating when getting crashed into. There is basically like a metal crash cage behind those plastic parts. It was amusing to watch the cars smashing apart and think that's this part and where this repair area is and how to do it. Love working on Saturn S Series. On my third one.

[@donzender9008]

Thank you for your service and glad you survived the crash!

[@jetfixer1989]

I was pitted and T-Boned by a 18 wheeler on the interstate in my 1995 Saturn SL. Drove it home . I know how you feel.

[@eriknobles3946]

Same here I owned 3 saturns they were pretty good to me

[@Charlie-Cat.]

The car is 22 years old, high mileage, went to Hell and back, and you still say it's terrible?

[@LarryLopez91]

123k ain't high mileage.

[@JM811Cars]

@@LarryLopez91 these things hit 200k all day long as long as they were maintained.

[@kevinmelecio9488]

Mine is a 2002 standard 250000 milles last November I went from Pensacola to Daytona Beach and back the same weekend I was doing 80 all the way that's very reliable at least mine is

[@Ebbsilen]

@@LarryLopez91 I don't know many cars with an automatic transmission that still works at that mileage without any oil change... and still working after the Toyota salesman drove it like he was ran after by a T-Rex... lol

[@Charlie-Cat.]

@@LarryLopez91 Sure is. It did come off the assembly line with it.

[@philc.9280]

I'm originally from Detroit and remember the introduction of this revolutionary new company called Saturn. It was supposed to be Detroit's answer to the Asian car onslaught. When people bought a Saturn all the employees from the dealership would applaud as you drove off the showroom.

[@paulsz6194]

Phil C. LoL... Did any one ask for a encore? 🤣🤣

[@robertharrison8286]

Made in Tennessee

[@ARAR148]

@Canada you’re wrong completely, the Saturn S series are fantastic cars, i’ve had five, and two of them have over 300,000 miles

[@vicenarybuffalo2296]

@Canada because GM went bankrupt, Saturn was actually doing excellent but it was because of GMs other brands (ahem, Pontiac) that were struggling big time and the economic crisis was the sealer

[@Nathan_Jay]

@@vicenarybuffalo2296 big problem was after 02 they killed the SC and the SL, and just badge-engineered normal GM cars. Any Saturn from 02 and earlier is virtually bulletproof

[@amasramzzzee]

The problem with Saturns is people don’t take care of them because they were and are a cheaper optioned vehicle. Super reliable if previous owner changed fluids on time. Parts are cheap and everywhere. Just rebuild the suspension and drive it for years.

[@Menace2DaComments]

Any vehicle is reliable if it’s maintained

[@bcdoggie]

@@Menace2DaComments Except for the Yugo. Those things' engines leaked so badly when new that even the dealers couldn't fix them, among other issues. 🤣 But yeah, in general what you said is true. I bought my Saturn SL new in 2002 and it still runs great because I maintain it myself. The only major problem it has had is ever since around 30,000 miles it has been burning about a half quart of oil between changes due to a faulty design in the oil rings of the pistons. I don't consider it to be a big deal because I check the oil level frequently and top off as needed. The car is 20 years old and still runs like a champ. Oh, it also has a manual transmission, so that helps.

[@lightsfansofthewest481]

​@@Menace2DaComments Fiat disagrees.

[@mattc9875]

​@@Menace2DaCommentsnot really...not these many miles

[@mobsterslim]

@@Menace2DaCommentsno lmao

[@charleschurchill3345]

I retired my 1996 SW2 last year with 437,000 miles. Bought it new and did 1 rebuilt engine and transmission. Drove the car hard and loved it. Bought another used and it now has 250K! Great cars. . . Easy to work on, like Lego. . .Just do the maintenance!

[@charleshousman3570]

Have an '04 Ion getting ready to top 300,000 miles. Hoping to get to 450K!

[@joegomez5463]

I drove my first car HARD, beat the piss put of it, and very few isaues before 200k miles. My second one, had 36k on it, and I was nicer to it....but my diff pin gave me it's resignation, and I had to put a new trans in it lmao. Caught me so off guard bro, you dont even know lmao

[@StuG-pr9tf]

there is a guy that has a 1998 Saturn SW2 wagon ( Arizona vehicle - No Rust ) he say's it just needs a new transmission and we are off and running. So maybe $3,000 - $5,000 for a new transmission bought and installed? He is asking right around $500 for it? Do you think a salvage yard would have a fairly good transmission for a car this old? I have never gone to a salvage yard to buy anything except a new rim

[@zeno8156]

The Saturn logo looks like something made for a 90's computer company.

[@bikecommuter24]

That is probably not far off

[@PlymouthNeon]

Ugh, Saturn was so promising in the beginning. The designs were so unique. And then GM started being the typical GM again, and Saturn's were just rebadged junk.

[@X1.7]

MC C 89-first model😉

[@DaveGreg100]

@@X1.7 The company was incorporated as a subsidiary of GM in 1984 IIRC. 91 was the first model. Billions spent. No profit ever made except an accounting profit one year in 1994 I think. I'm a fan but what a frigging waste of GM treasure and talent. And make no mistake: Saturn was 100% GM, from the designers to the workers to the engineers, to every dime poured into it, it all came from GM

[@X1.7]

Dvaeo Greg 1989 first model - Spring Hill tn

[@gwwayner]

I'd say that any car that is still going after 20 years is a pretty good car!

[@Alex-fq4qy]

my bmw

[@uccoskun]

The MSRP of my 2002 manual SL was 10k. After 240kmiles, 20 years, it is still on the road. $500 per year, you can not beat it. In short, they turned out to be good cars.

[@scottsmith6867]

Exactly...my 2001 SL 5-spd bought new off the lot for $10.5k was my cheapest car ever after getting it to 196k miles in 13 years. Just wanted an upgrade after 3 kids and few small accidents, but sold it to a very happy mechanic for $600...Less than $1,000/yr with normal maintenance sounds like a win to me.

[@BRIDON777]

TRUTH! Been drivin Saturns for 20 years, Currently 2002 SL1 with 57k miles. A cream puff. Best economy cars ever made.

[@louisrein5436]

Saturn's are actually excellent cars Scotty ! I have been driving my 2005 Saturn Ion for 15 years now ,and I have almost 254,000 miles on it. It had less than 20,000 miles on it when I bought it in 2006. I have not had any major problems with it the whole time I have had it. The only issue is that there was a recall on the ignition lock and switch with I had to get replaced 3 times. Other than that its been excellent! At least it didn't cost me anything because it was a recall. You know that sooner or later there is a recall on every car make in the automobile industry, so you can't knock the Saturn's completely. My Saturn Ion is the best car I have ever had ! If Saturn's were still made ,and I was in the market to buy my next car I'd buy another Saturn in a heart beat !

[@coltonphillips1]

I think they were a great brand. The dealer experience was unique and the people who worked for Saturn were actually happy and proud of their products.

[@deborahkennedy1398]

I have a 2004 Ion 4 dr standard (stick) bought it in 2004. it has 75k miles. Put on 4 new tires 2019. Needed new fuel pump in May 2021. Other than this I’ve had no problem with it. Yes, I don’t drive much (everything has been close by, including work) It’s 17 yrs old and I love it!!!!

[@flyingscotsman32]

Agreed. I had my 04 Saturn Vue from 06 until 2019 when it hit 225k miles when I donated it.

[@deborahkennedy1398]

@flyingscotsman Wow!! That’s a lot of miles! I’m hoping I can get 225k miles!! It’ll hopefully be drivable for the rest of my life! Bless you for donating it. I’m sure the next person/people will get lots of use out of it!

[@Ty-sm9cv]

@@deborahkennedy1398 I've owned 3 Saturn ions of the same generation, the first 2 reached 250k miles, and my third is on 170k.

[@deborahkennedy1398]

@@Ty-sm9cv Wow! Very nice!! Congratulations!

[@henrystowe6217]

I had a 2001 Saturn L100. I drove to 197000 miles until it went to another owner. It had a stick shift. It was extremely reliable for me.

[@emusizza1]

Had an L200 that went over 348000 KM. No engine troubles. Sent to junkyard running cause I wound up with too many cars and it was old. Was a good car to me.

[@louspradlin3167]

My Saturn, 2000 LW1, owned for 22 years, has 195,000 great miles on it, good maintenance, good gas mileage, no major problems. Still driven daily, love the car!

[@jamesflickinger1363]

I still have my 1996 Saturn and it still runs and drives like a new car. Shifts great too. It has the dual over head cam engine and is pretty perky when I floor it. Still shines too. It has 186,000 miles on it. I have three other newer vehicles but I'm still keeping my Saturn. I love it. It's been a good car. I must have got lucky.

[@patricebradley9547]

Loved my 95’ SL1. Drove it 27 yrs. til it failed new Cali emissions standards. Miss the standard transmission and with just a front wheel drive got me thru all the Colorado winters. Parked out back with no body damage. O well! 🤷‍♀️

[@Hulk-mc7bp]

Actually…it is not luck. I gave my Saturn 99 SL to my nephew with 345k miles and based on how much he drove it that car possibly went over 500k miles.

[@ii-pw6dy]

Purely anecdotal, I own a '98 Saturn SL2 manual transmission and it still runs like a clock after all these years.

[@clardy01]

“Take the license plates off and abandon it!” 🤣🤣🤣 Scotty, that’s got me laughing long after the video is over!

[@BenDover90313]

Lol

[@navret1707]

The Last Clardy - in Iceland we used to call cars like that “planters”. When it died you took the plates off it and just planted it right there. 🤣

[@PlymouthNeon]

The car shell should be used for homeless housing, instead of going to the junkyard

[@eaubfelangy8132]

Till some guy, totally not me would try to pick it up.

[@daveogarf]

Colossally STUPID MOVE.

[@travisedmonds4214]

Scotty: This gm economy car was a real underpowered dog Also Scotty: My celica doesn't have much power but that's fine, it's really a Corolla that's an economy car Scotty: The automatic transmission is starting to go out on this 22 year old car, terrible quality! Also Scotty: The transmission is starting to go out on my celica but that's fine because it's old and I don't drive much. Excellent Toyota quality to make it this long!

[@mlashokdna]

hey... thats not honest comparison. One can only compare apples to apples. Even then did you hear the thud that saturn was making every time it shifts? We don't hear that bad shifting on celica.

[@catlover1986]

That is a perfect analogy. Scotty is what we call "a domestic basher". He hates American cars, for reasons that are psychological, not evidence based. I find it amusing, I still watch him but we all know Scotty has a Japanese fetish.

[@catlover1986]

@@mlashokdna Scotty's celica was maintained by a mechanic (Scotty) for years. These other cars have often gone 50,000 miles without an oil change, and 250,000 miles since the trans fluid was changed. You can never examine the quality of a car by an old used variant. Saturn hasn't been made in 10 years. If it's still on the road, it's of decent quality.

[@LarryLopez91]

Scotty's Celica has close to 250k on the odometer while this Saturn has less than 130k. I don't recall the Celica's transmission on its way out either.

[@TripReviews]

Bret Z yep, and he hardly drives the celica as he admits so for sure it is going to be dependable. Give the old Saturn some credit.

[@FSUAGAMINGAIRSOFT]

I have a 1999 Saturn SL2 currently 233k miles on odometer. Never had a problem besides the radiator and valve cover gasket. Still running strong and pretty fun to whip around

[@GeminiWoods]

My 97 SC2 was incredibly reliable. Loved that little car. Wound up driving it all over the east coast while no trouble.

[@Bigjamez2011]

These saturns last long . I’ve owned 4 so far all still on the road . One has 364k mIles

[@mds2465]

are they stick?

[@brycestoll]

Yeah my first car was a 1998 Saturn sl1 and it had over 280000 miles when I got rid of it.

[@robertharrison8286]

I have an '05 Vue with 250,000 no leaks, no smoke hit 90mph in nothing flat never broke down.

[@emilyjh75]

Just traded in a 2004 Ion with 200k on it. The transmission was fussy for the last 4 years, but it held together like a champ. I bought it used with significant front end damage, but never had any major mechanical issues. Cheaply made, all the plastic broke eventually, but the thing would not quit. Good work horse.

[@ARAR148]

@@mds2465 my 1996 sc1 saturn was an automatic with 340k miles and still drove great

[@viriatvsoflvsitania5422]

"I'd drive it until it didn't drive anymore, and then when it stopped moving I'd take the license plates out off and abandon it." THAT is the most honest advice I've ever heard from a mechanic 👌🏼

[@theroyalcrownedtiger2946]

Wait until the city finds your info with the vin number, they will find you and bill you for towing and storage. Towing and storage is anything but low cost. I know someone that did this, and that's what happened to them.

[@clintadams8451]

@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946, even if you removed the vin tags, the chassis number is stamped into 2 different places.

[@robertbennett2796]

@@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 also if you ignore it long enough its concidered forfeited and the problem will resolve it seld

[@jjflash2611]

Ha. Ha. I spit out my coffee when I heard that. This Guy is too funny. Great way to pass the time at home during quarantine.

[@theroyalcrownedtiger2946]

@@clintadams8451 : Although the windshield vin is always there in the same location, the other ones are on different parts of the car, front fender top bracket area, frame, on the engine / transmission, stickered on vin at driver side door with the manufacturing date, plant, etc, as well as other areas.

[@joeymcguire8742]

I had a 1995 saturn sl in high school/college and that thing was amazing. It only died because the oil pump failed at 215k miles. The manual transmission Saturns were incredible value vehicles.

[@brensdaman926]

I had a 1996 SL2 with 300,000 miles on it and I loved the fiberglass panels it had. Never a rust problem. It was a great car!

[@dancook4993]

I had 3 Saturns all got over 300,000 miles one still going at 348,000

[@barrybambmessagedeletedbyy7467]

Same with mine and I abuse it. I never put oil or gasoline in it.

[@SuperSickNerd]

My friend had one with 280k miles then sold it. It was still running pretty good.

[@addz17]

That's a ton of very miserable miles. You don't drop kids off to school in those shitboxes do you?

[@Elaba_]

Mine had a big hole under my feet. I never put gasoline in it.

[@jayo6725]

I had a 2000 LS100 automatic. I actually liked the car and it was reliable. I sold it at around 127k miles. Was sad to see Saturn ended. Not feeling Scotty on this one.

[@rayburton4867]

Damn this man has a deep hatred for GM! Saturn was a decent car...gimme a freakin break, Scotty! Go do commercials for the foreign automakers!

[@davidhanesworth8027]

Ray Burton , with 3.2 million subscribers, he must be doing something right.

[@bradhampton6457]

Ray Burton Scotty basically only likes Toyota. :). He pretty much hates all Big 3 products.

[@papanam4267]

Yes, Saturn WAS a decent car. But GM began to tweak down the quality. I own one from 2004 and it's still kinda decent but the design flaws were starting to become evident in that model year, e.g. they removed the transmission fluid dipstick, used rubber that dry rotted under the driver's seat which subsequently falls through, had head cover gaskets that failed when they shouldn't, etc. I'm still happy about the great gas mileage and power, though! And the relative greater safety compared to a tin can Corolla. The sabotage that GM did to the Saturn line is so sad. Then they killed it.

[@jamespiroli823]

We had several Saturns that went 200,000 miles with no major issues. He's wrong

[@Sabercats12]

@@jamespiroli823 With any vehicle type its always how well the car is maintained by the owner. I had a 2002 Dodge Dakota that I owned for 12 years, but, I took good care of it.

[@albear972]

I'm still driving the Saturn L-100 SE that I bought brand new with 2 miles in June 2002. The most reliable car I have ever owned. It never burns oil. I do admit, it still has the original equipment power steering fluid and coolant. But it has no leaks of any kind whatsoever. I'll drive it until it dies or vise-versa. Nice blowing stop signs too.

[@stevepolk4080]

I'm listening, repaired a transmission on a 2003 ion Saturn the owner was so happy , the transmission was really simple.

[@Super_Charged4life]

in our saturn group we have many saturns well over 400k miles going strong. hell my 200 sl has 301k miles on it and it still runs and drives perfectly

[@robertgary3561]

Super Charged4life 96 sc 2 with 300,000

[@JC-rn6hp]

My SL2 5 speed is surprisingly solid at 213k

[@q-bert6454]

Super Charged4life I hope Scotty doesn’t see this message 😭👀

[@Arz2003]

What's the link to your group?

[@ccecchini8355]

L300 w 30k lol

[@loua5539]

Love how Scotty is saying how this car is “closer to crappy” and you were better off with a Toyota Corolla. Dude, the car is 22-23 years old! I’d say the car was pretty damn reliable lmao Let the thing Rest In Peace!

[@94concours]

Lou A haha, yep! Poor car was used and abused for 20 plus years and it’s a “piece of junk”!

[@theroyalcrownedtiger2946]

@@94concours : That's Scotty for you. I disagree with Scotty on this topic, about Saturn not being reliable. I've had a friend who had total of 300,000 on his odometer, original motor and transmission, still ran as a daily car, but hes got a newer car ( Crown Vic ) for daily, but kept the saturn for the winter.

[@alextran8188]

Just because it's been around for 20+ years doesn't mean its reliable.. who knows how many times it's been the in shop compared to a comparable corolla of that age.

[@sadmanh0]

better resale value with the Corolla and it wouldn't have any transmission problems

[@keyboardwarrior327]

@@alextran8188 I see way more 20 year old Saturns than I see 20 year old Corollas.

[@ace-fk6jn]

Saturn's are actually really good cars! For the price, they're reliable. My sister and cousin had a 95 and 02 sl2 and they lasted them for quite a bit. They are cheaply made but overall really good

[@grndiesel]

If it's any conciliation, the Saturn SL platform can easily be swapped from a slushbox to a 5-speed. The body shells are designed to accept either driveline.

[@brianbartosch7384]

I used to be a tech at Saturn, we seen those transmissions clunk and slam into gear like that all the time. The fix was a new valve body. The pressure control valves in them would bind and/or the valve return springs would break causing high line pressures causing the slamming. Input shaft nuts coming loose would also cause a slam in reverse. By the way this trans acts, a new valve body and input shaft nut would have her shifting like a new trans! Assuming you can find parts anymore, I haven't replaced any in over a decade.

[@paulomunoz634]

I remember selling those...I was a parts guy for Saturn. Great cars. Scotty just sucks.

[@2K-Tan]

@@paulomunoz634 The early ones aren't bad cars but will still never hold up as long in comparison to almost any Japanese made vehicle. They just simply didn't have the DECADES of refinement building reliable econoboxes the Japanese had. Scotty sucks but you clicked the video anyway. lolk How many of these old Saturn's do you see on the road compared to Old Toyota's or Japanese made cars? About 1/4 as many, and usually if you do they're the manual.. This also only had about 123K before a major transmission failure compared to 200 - 300K+ from other manufacturers. Get triggered some more lmao

[@ethanibarra7089]

Yeah my Saturn is a Manuel and it is still going strong.

[@daewooparts]

Bahahaha, one of my friends took one of the Saturn cut away cars from the dealership & actually put in a good working engine & transmission & was driving it around after modifying it 🤣 GM got pissed but what could they do ,he legally acquired it & drove it around with transporter/dealer plates ,was awesome when people would stare at the cut away doors & parts

[@zoomer2965]

Can confirm Also, you can do a fresh fluid fill with an additive like Lucas, then put it in reverse against an immovable object and pull the parking brake. Keep an eye on it for about 20 minutes and and that can sometimes fix the slam.

[@94concours]

Scotty: “should have spent $3k more for a Corolla!” That’s a lot of extra money to spend when you’re talking about an early 90’s economy car!

[@jjflash2611]

94concours - Yes. Very true. That’s why they sold so many Saturns at the time.

[@vincescalise4821]

94concours Yes I agree with you $3000 is a lot of money now and 22 years ago ,and this car has been on the road for 22 years for crying out loud

[@vehiclenanny]

Haha...yep. Pay a 30% premium for a Toyota back then? No thanks.

[@TheMrLebaron]

@@vehiclenanny Depends, the Toyota will last a lot longer.

[@TheMrLebaron]

@@MaverickXeo Used Saturns are pretty much worthless, Toyota holds their value better than anyone

[@DerpyUniverse]

My grandma had an SL1, she got a new car and gave it to her sister. Both of them drive the hell out of the car and kept it maintained. When I turned 16 they have that car to me and I never had a single issue for an entire year.

[@randomguest7024]

My 95 saturn sl2 did this. It was the valve body. I got the part for $150 and the repair was simple. Now it drives like the transmission is still new. Other than that, my car itself is still going strong. The body is nice and the engine runs good.

[@mattc9875]

Same here, just replaced the valve body and drives like new in 2023 (2002 SL1 w/only 47k miles)

[@carlosanderson4479]

Wow, I actually heard they were pretty reliable.

[@intoxovision3121]

My wife had one for years. the thing was still ticking like a clock when she traded it in. How much longer it lasted after she traded it, i can't say.

[@myMotoring]

before GM messed them up

[@jamisonkohlberg439]

I owned a SL1 and it went 350000 miles! I did change the oil frequently however, but at the end if it's life the frame welds went bad . I will always appreciate that car.

[@jsain360]

I had two in my life, they were very reliable

[@supersam5120]

My mom actually bought a brand new Saturn in 1999 and it still runs great😄

[@ruley73]

The REAL truth about Saturn is that they were cutting edge compact cars when the 1991 models were introduced, but GM's lack of investment in the S-Series eventually led to the brand's demise. The last year of the S-Series was 2002, but it was still fundamentally the same car that was introduced 12 years prior despite some minor revisions over the years. They were generally very reliable cars and had better build quality than comparable rivals at the time of their introduction in 1990. What Scotty isn't telling you is that most rival models had been completely redesigned two or three times during the same 12 year span the S-Series was made - including the Corolla. Even when trying to disparage Saturn, Scotty failed to mention the S-Series' biggest flaw: burning oil. The S-Series is the only model that literally had nothing in common with the rest of GM. All the Saturns that came after the S-Series were models that shared platforms with other GM vehicles.

[@NoName-gv6nm]

22 years old sounds like it was reliable to me. I've heard of 90s Camrys throwing rods through the crankcase. Toyota had their share of issues too.

[@darkzerk7]

Not that many Joe Commuter type cars last 20 years on the road with hundreds of thousands of miles. Mercedes Benz, Audi, Vauxhall/Opel, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, that's about it. Maybe a few Mazdas. It's an impressive feat today.

[@markh.6687]

"The mechanic said I'd blown a seal. I said "Just fix the damn thing, and leave my private life out of it, okay pal?!" (Wet Dream by Kip Addotta).

[@purdyboi8078]

@@markh.6687 🤣

[@DavidS-ld4pf]

I had a 97 Camry with a V6 that had all kinds of issues, although they do last if you are willing to keep fixing them, so I kind of regret getting rid of it because in the long run it would have saved money. .

[@Hulk-mc7bp]

Owned an SL1 for 18 years, over 350k and the only problem I had was an oxygen sensor. Gave it to my nephew and he still run it for a few more years, that does not sound like “junk” to me. I hope my current car lasts just as long as my old Saturn, or longer.

[@robinscheines6775]

I've owned 3 Saturn S Series and 2 of them were stick shift 5 speed manual Very fun to drive beater cars The DOHC SC2 Manual my most favorite Saturn Old Saturns never die they just run out of motor oil

[@hugomernies8774]

he doesn't know anything about cars

[@Kevindatrucker]

Car is 22 years old! If transmission is just going bad now that was a great transmission

[@tipperbaby]

Not when it had 120k miles..

[@markh.6687]

Beats the hell out of my 2001 Taurus, which is losing its trans for the SECOND time in 130,000 miles. I'm thinking of looking at an 2002 Saturn SC2 at a local car lot.

[@edbianchi8839]

Thank you “father” Scotty for your review on the Saturn. My wife’s Saturn, 2004, and 75,500 miles is doing “well”. I guess that if you don’t drive it it is OK. But now I know what to watch for. As a “consolation “ price and based on your opinion I just bought a 2020 Toyota Corolla Since I am 81years old I hope it is the last brand new car I ever buy. Keep up the good work

[@thebuttcutter549]

Love your channel scotty but mechanic to mechanic,I gotta say the early Saturn's(1991-1995) deserve a ton of credit. THOSE THINGS WERE INDESTRUCTIBLE!!!they did very well,the automatics weren't too bad aside from the reverse slam issue,and the 1.9l DOHC motor would run forever!!my sister has a 92 sl2 and it has 548,000 miles on the original motor! When Saturn first came out their motto was "a different kind of car,a different kind of car company"GM gave Saturn full reign to do whatever they wanted to with their new car,with no micromanaging from GM and they did really well!as an old Saturn tech once told me : "old Saturn's never die people kill them" the later Saturn's were junk. ESPECIALLY towards the end but I think the first generation deserves a ton of credit!and maybe a video about the first gens too!

[@floridaman7]

Imagine coming home from having scotty repair your car and seeing a video of him shitting on it.

[@Datsun7705]

Scotty: but the engine puts out about 120hp so it's a dog with an automatic 94 celica with 110hp and automatic: *heavy breathing*

[@javierherrera8782]

But what really matters is the power to weight ratio. Don't confuse that fact.

[@Snookynibbles]

Javier Herrera, bet they’re both in the same general weight range.

[@suzumr2754]

@@Snookynibbles i second that

[@javierherrera8782]

@@Snookynibbles hahaha I have a 95 celica and I smoke with no problems any Saturn any day of the week. Believe me, those are "zippy little cars"

[@javierherrera8782]

@@Snookynibbles wouldn't matter if saturns had even 250 horsepower of they deliver it until the last moment of acceleration......they are crap and the ugliest looking cars of all time.. they are the crap OF USA

[@RobsTechs]

I'm glad u updated ur intro so much better

[@thebasicquestion2853]

Thank you for the great videos! Learned a lot of the same things my Dad dealt with in a body shop.

[@AlfredtheGreat121]

I’m a JDM guy, but back in the day had a 2004 Saturn ion- only thing I ever did/had to do to it was ignition switch. Kept it until well over 150k miles. Still ran fine when we sold it

[@djebz29]

Still have my 2004 Ion Redline that I bought new and still runs fantastic.

[@autumnrain7626]

03 ion here, running great at nearly 200k. And I run this thing as hard as I can LOL

[@plaintruths6062]

Does it feel weird going from a JDM back to an American car with the steering wheel on the "wrong" side?

[@smokingbuddymatt6131]

We get it, you don't like GM and love Toyota... Still on the road at 20 years, I guess it had some value.

[@mikemcgrew65]

processbird _17 I still drive my 1982 Oldsmobile 98 Regency with the 5.7L diesel withe a 4spd automatic transmission which is 1 of 15 olds diesel powered GM cars that own and all of the cars run and used as needed by my family.

[@rollsroyce3337]

@Sidney Grove honestly they taxing u can find these dirt cheap but it's up to you

[@datacipher]

@Al Dunn it actually highlights the silly thinking they Process bird forwarded ! Anecdotal experience.... We get that Kilmer is talking about the cars as a whole - yet still going into specific flaws and model years....

[@josequilez5449]

Funny enough the ll0 engine was designed by Toyota for gm because they couldn't make a good dohc for the Saturn. So these cars had Toyota built engines shipped out by the cratefull

[@perrinayebarra]

Saturn’s of those years were actually really good cars. Parts are basically free and very easy to work on. Plus no rusted out bodies!

[@willfreese6118]

My first car was a 1995 SL2. My parents purchased the car used in 1999 and I had it until June 2015. I did have to replace the radiator and 3 throttle body replacements,, but other than that I had no major issues with the car. It was always reliable!

[@cobbleup]

95 was their best year. They had ditched the power seat belts, still had the aluminum valve/cam cover and had the nicer interior trim with bigger speakers too. The trick to making them last is frequent oil changes to avoid cam chain/guide wear and valve seal wear. 1993-1998 S series were the best years. Avoid the L series with the BMW v6 engine.... expensive garbage.

[@cybair9341]

Here in the northeast, road salt will destroy a Toyota just like any other car. The early Saturns (S-series) last much longer here because of plastic body, plastic fuel tank, plastic fuel lines, rust-proof exhaust system. I still drive two hi-mileage 1995 and 1998 Saturns with manual transmission because I can't find anything else as rust-resilient as an early Saturn.

[@paulsz6194]

Cybair Trabants in Eastern ( Communist) Germany didn’t rust either... Saturn was such a great car that they stopped producing it...

[@Tempsho]

Cybair you just have to watch out for the frame that could rust away

[@Ebbsilen]

Same thing here, i have a 95 with hi mileage. I also owned many corollas from the same era with very low to very high mileage and they reached the point of no return after like 6-7 winters, even with yearly rustproofing. My Saturn required some steel work 1-2 summers ago, but hey, it's 300 000kms, seen all its winters and only had 3-4 rustproofing in 25 years... The Corollas had the cheap stainless exhaust while the Saturn had an usual steel exhaust, though. For the fuel tank and lines you are right though. Anyway my exhaust is in ruins, but it's the oem one and it has 300 000kms. Quite impressive for non stainless steel...

[@cybair9341]

@@Tempsho - Your'e right. I did some rough repair work for suspension mounting points.

[@cybair9341]

@Sidney Grove - I would ask that question to Scotty. I'm only familiar with the early S-series Saturns.

[@sandybarnes887]

Clean trunk and back seat. Even the teddy bear had a seat belt on. An owner who cares.

[@funnyhunny3407]

Your comment is so cute, @ sandy.

[@sandybarnes887]

@@funnyhunny3407 aww, golly gee. Thanks, hunny. I try. 😊

[@SuperCookieGaming_]

the only problems i ever see that are common on these cars is 1) sunroof mechanics break or 2) on third gen s-series the intake is made of plastic so the coolant causes a crack to form causing a leak. Newly manufactured kits are available to fix both. the intake is just a metal replacement piece and a gasket. The engine and trans are extremely solid can can got 300k+ miles without a rebuilt and the cross hatching on the cylinder walls will sill be there. The body is made of plastic and can’t rust. they are cheap, fuel efficient and the sc model is great fun. Scotty your crazy

[@micaw7108]

I had a 97 SL1. Bought it new, and I had really good luck with it. Drove it for 17 years before it was involved in a wreck that sadly wrote it off. In those 17 years, never had to do any major work to it; even the AC still worked like a champ. I was saddened to see it go.

[@JOHNWLOUCKS]

I loved my Saturn SC-1. I had a friend who put 200k on both of his Saturns and I know someone who is still driving her Vue

[@fallsgrave]

The SL1 and SL2 models were great cars. A little bit of oil burners, but they were dead reliable and pretty good on gas. They'd run forever as long as you kept an eye on the oil level. Some of the SL1s had a 5 speed manual and could easily get 40MPG or more. You'll see a lot of them for sale with over 200k on the clock. I had a 1997 SL1 with some options not common on that model: It had power locks and windows and cruise control. GM did what GM always does. Ruin good things.. They started putting badge-engineered cars in with the Saturn lineup, and before you knew it there was nothing different about Saturn than any other GM product. Saturn was a good concept and was successful.

[@prioris55555]

Yep, around 40 mpg hwy ... over 300K and still runs fine ... i had 1999 saturn sl1 5 speed ...

[@robertgary3561]

96 sc2 still running at 300,000

[@swagginmcjaggin1078]

I had a 95 SW2 with half a million km on it. door sills were gone and subframe was starting to rust but she started everyday without problem even in -40 Celsius

[@fallsgrave]

@Sidney Grove Id pass it up and keep saving money. Try looking for a Honda or Toyota.

[@Frejborg]

Love your reviews of these older everyday cars. Hilarious! Also interesting.

[@69in89]

First car was a '94 Saturn SC1 with the SOHC engine & 5-speed manual with the odometer dead at 146100. AC equipped but couldn't hold refrigerant charge, no power locks, no power windows, no cruise control, no center console or arm rest, no front cup holders, driver side door frame leaked everytime I went through car wash, burned a quart of oil every 500ish miles which is almost inevitable on these S-series engines after some time due to bad piston rings and valve stems, had super mushy brakes that made it a real safety hazard at lower speeds regardless of how many brake components it went through, cooling fan had to operated with a manual switch or It would overheat at lower speeds, key had to removed at an angle, and it had the most jerry-rigged aftermarket stereo system I've ever seen with used speakers from a Nissan Sentra. Never once failed on me or left me stranded.

[@roadglide1142]

They can’t be that bad my Aunt’s went over 300K miles when she traded it in and was still working. I still see them on the road!

[@youngreckless97]

She took great care of it

[@drewbenefield2001]

Yeah I had a friend that had one and it went to 350,000.

[@Nikkk6969]

A lot of cars do

[@crand20033]

I had a 2007 Saturn Vue with a 5 speed manual trans and it lasted over 220,000 before I traded it in. I had large expensive problems with the purge valve, gas vapor vent valve and emissions system in it. I finally got tired of fixing that.

[@TheRotacker]

I had an 01 Saturn ls got it at 140k and sold it at 240k only had to replace the water pump and the emergency brake got stuck. Sold it for $600

[@tmntchad]

My first car was a $1,5001994 Saturn had 180K and was still running at 220k when I gave it to my Uncle. Awesome little car.

[@tgene2223]

You paid 15001994$ for a Saturn

[@deadchannel991]

@Sidney Grove dont

[@goldengun608]

I just got a 94 Saturn sl1 for $600 and 127k miles in great condition, been driving it for about a month and it’s been a solid daily driver so far I love this little shitbox. Parts are cheap and maintenance is incredibly easy.

[@TheMB2333]

"I'd take the license plates off and abandon it." 😂

[@getnorgetout9425]

You'd think he'd at least be smart enough to take it to a junkyard and get $300 for it, right?!

[@anthonygarcia-kd8wt]

I have an 03 saturn l series with the 2.2 ecotec had it for years I've hit 4 deers with it and it still going. Has over 200 thousand miles. Been a very reliable car !! Never had any issues with it. Starts up every time !!

[@Nobodyofimportance2u]

That trans is 22 years old

[@j.r.ferrerio9940]

Hi Scotty; I have 6 s series saturns from 2 are 93, 2 are 2000, an automatic and a standard transmission, 1 98 , 1 96. The 96 had lost reverse. I found on youtube a 6 min video that helped me fix it by tightening a 23MM nut on an input/output shaft. That fix was 3 years ago. It's still going... I have replaced front wheel bearings after 125,000 miles on them. But I have over 200,000 miles on 4 of them. I think I have saved hundreds of thousands of dollars over the last 17 years by not buying a new car. I like what I know how to fix. As always, I appreciate your work too.

[@jeffhartman7000]

I drove a 1993 SW2 wagon for ten years, replaced it with a 2003 Ion that got replaced in 2015 primarily because it was too low for my arthritic knees, and we needed to accommodate family with wheelchairs. Both cars were incredibly reliable and inexpensive to maintain, as were the Saturns my friends and co-workers owned. This review didn't change my perception of Saturn, but it did give me a pretty good reading on Scotty's judgment.

[@juileaugustson580]

I totally agree. I’m still driving a 2002 and it runs great and I love it. He sounds like he works for Toyota lol 😂

[@JohnCBrown-mm2co]

The Saturn cars that had real problems were the Ion and the Aura. Maybe some later Vues along with the Relay. But the L-series and S-series were pretty reliable from what I’ve heard and some family members that had them. And for it being a 1.9 I4 it could move respectably.

[@knrz2562]

Wo0w😮

[@JulesBushh]

I hope you see this I have an aura XR what are some of the problems you are talking about?

[@geronimome4153]

You are right about the L and S series up to 2002 then they started to lose quality.

[@connerbrandy9185]

My aura is really good, Has 212,000 miles on jt

[@jaketanis3069]

Awesome to see a Saturn video! My dad had a 96’ with a 5 speed manual transmission. He drove that car for probably 7-8 years and had over 300,000 miles on it. Still running strong he gave it to me brother when he turned 16. Annndddddd my brother totaled it 😂 Would have liked to see how long it went.

[@NO-END]

96 SL1 manual had 170000 miles on it when I totaled mine.

[@robertgary3561]

Have 300,000 on my 96 sc2 manual.

[@markgoldenberg870]

They are great cars. I’ve seen some old SL2’s with over 300k miles on them

[@hmoobtushlub]

Scotty, I love your channel, you are honest, knowledgeable, smart and not afraid to say it like it is. I also love the way you tell your story to where I can understand and interesting, thx !

[@emusizza1]

Had mine till 348,000 km and sent to the junkyard running. Never had any engine troubles. Very reliable. Manual transmission though. Great car that didn't rust.

[@RW84JR]

If it bangs /delayed in reverse and bangs into second gear, most likely the end nut is loose ( replace new nut) If it bangs hard in all gears, mainline pressure solenoid is stuck open ( mainline solenoid / or new valve body) The S - Series was a great car - former Saturn dealership Mechanic

[@LloyettaJEwing]

My Saturn hesitates when going up an incline? Otherwise runs great.

[@eyesalooking]

I will keep that in mind. I was just given a 1999 Saturn SC2 3 door coupe with an automatic. So far seems easy to work on and I am not a mechanic. I changed the transmission fluid and filter and solved the overheating problem by changing the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor. Still a good looking vehicle with only some surface rust on the under carriage.

[@mr.ormrs.greene9737]

I just love this channel! Good Job Scotty

[@Packer1290]

I had a 1993 SL2. It was a great car. Got rid of it with 235000 miles and it was still running good. No problems at all with the paint.

[@flannelguydiy6458]

The problem is that Saturns were made on Mars...

[@astonkruger3159]

Wait till elon musk hears about this.

[@glennso47]

Flannel Guy DIY Weren’t they made in Uranus?😏

[@ornatehammer661]

,, I'd take the liscence plates off and abandon it'' what a savage! 🤣

[@wolfpackflt670]

And scrape off the VIN

[@theroyalcrownedtiger2946]

There are many locations vin numbers are kept on the car, and some places are hidden, but it's still there. The windshield vin is the most common one.

[@theroyalcrownedtiger2946]

Even if you removed windshield vin, the other locations of vin will still show the vin numbers.

[@theroyalcrownedtiger2946]

Take plates off and abandon it, its stupidity, they will track you down with the vin numbers. Its dumb and It's got nothing to do with savage.

[@smeyers9284]

that teddy bear omg

[@thehollyannrose]

I had a 2001 Saturn SL2, and the transmission was done with at 72k, luckily that was when I bought it and the place I bought it from fixed it for me. Never had any other major issues! But I did sell it after owning it for three years in 2014 lol

[@vend3ttaverano778]

nobody: Scotty reviewing any non-Japanese sedan: “for about [x amount more/less] you could’ve gotten a *toyota corolla*

[@austinl5826]

Every Saturn car I see on the road is either missing all their fenders or have been in some sort of collision

[@theroyalcrownedtiger2946]

Not where I live. Where I live, I have seen a few in immaculate condition and driving too, the worst I have seen has roof clear coating peeling.

[@rickdaystar477]

Last time I saw a Saturn with all four fenders smashed Stevie Wonder was driving.

[@harryjones8591]

@@rickdaystar477 it's difficult to get parts. You may be able to find some in the junk yards.

[@darths3501]

@@christopher-gardner 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dwaynegayle1931]

@@christopher-gardner 😅😅😅

[@billblomgren9618]

Saturn got GM'd to death.. The alternator was from GM, and every 30,000 miles the things would fail. In my case, in the middle of nowhere in Ohio. Got a 100+ mile tow to Toledo... and the saturn dealer happily swapped the alternator. The only problem: AAA's tow guy used the struts on the front for his tie down on the flat bed. Result? It became V shaped.. and I had to get THAT swapped as well. (I was heading to Charlotte NC at that point.) Ended up with one additional failure on that trip.. the break sensor on one of the wheels died, so the thing shuddered, and lit the "brake failure" indicator.. stopped at yet another dealer in West Va. I was under the impression that the V6 came from Opel in Germany, complete with the transmission. However they had a problem with the GM plant in Wilmington... It BROKE about half the engine/transmission assemblies during "assembly" with the body. ugh. Quality control? things like the rubber seals on the doors and trunk looked to have been trimmed by someone with a folding knife from Switzerland. Ragged, no fit and so on.. At least the smaller cars built in TN were well assembled... other than the POS alternators. Mine had 150k on it when I gave it to my older sister... was still getting 32 mpg and running very well at that point.. Last I heard, it had been handed down to 2 additional generations. It was a mid 90's Saturn before GM pissed on the production....

[@robertgary3561]

Bill Blomgren got 300,000 miles on mine.

[@billblomgren9618]

@@robertgary3561 At 42,000 miles they had to replace the timing chain... apparently the adjuster was defective... I actually got them to replace that at no charge... The Cat Converter also failed... at about 80k miles. They told me their cost buying it from GM was $800 and it would take an hour or two of labor to replace it.. They gave me the name of a local muffler shop that would do the job for about $200 total.. Naturally I went there. The alternators went out at 33,000, 60,800, 95,000 --- Every one a dud from GM. Ugh.

[@Billblom]

@Sidney Grove The saturns are basically out of support from GM. They don't make them any more... and finding people that can really work on them (and find parts) is approaching the impossible. I would not buy one at this point. I did put a lot of miles on mine... and then it went to my older sister, who passed it along to one of her kids when she found something larger. No idea if it still runs. However, given the problems with repairs, I would avoid them like the plague. The large one was built at a plant in Delaware.. and built VERY VERY poorly. They broke the German transmission/engines with great regularity just trying to install them. Avoid!!!

[@mk84boom]

My first brand new car car was 93 Saturn SC2, with a manual transmission. The only frills I got was a power moonroof. The windows and door locks were also manual. The only issue I had with was the fuel guage stopped working at about 40000 miles.

[@suspiciousminds1750]

I always wondered how scotty's customers feel about him trashing their cars to thousands of viewers on KZbin, LOL.

[@suspiciousminds1750]

@Michael Rheinstrom Yeah, "America's Most Unwanted."

[@bikecommuter24]

Customer: Scotty can you fix my Saturn? Scotty: sure can I put it out on the Internet?

[@Andrewlikesguns]

When I was a kid my mom got a Saturn when they were a new thing. Manual locks, windows and transmission. Ran great for a long time and didn't run stop signs like that one did on the test drive!

[@mojorisen74]

I've got a 2007 Saturn outlook and it's been super reliable. 170,000 miles. Other than normal wear and tear items I've probably only put about $2,000 in parts in it. Doing the work myself helps but I haven't had anything catastrophic happen to it. I'm confident It'll last another 5+ years

[@aidenroose3246]

I knew the outlook was reliable it's one of the cars I want to own yet I see comments on videos saying they are POS

[@mojorisen74]

@@aidenroose3246 most problems are caused by people not doing preventive maintenance, changing fluids, thats the big thing, thats why there's timing chain issues. Oil gets low or not changed every 5000 miles, chains arent lubricated and heat up causing them to stretch and jump gears.

[@El_Sin.07]

I have a 2001 sl1, its been through two transmissions, compressor, alternator, water pump. It has 248k miles and still runs pretty good with all maintenance

[@mackey-5438]

My wife drives a 2005 Saturn Ion, that we bought brand new. She loves it. Still running great. Only issues have been the ignition switch (fixed during the recall), and an ignition switch sensor that has been replaced.

[@Nar01]

Elon Musk would've bought the brand out if they called it Mars

[@paulsz6194]

NVergilio Saturn just sounded too optimistic for him, LoL!! 🤣🤣

[@X-JAKA7]

True

[@X-JAKA7]

If I bought the Saturn brand, I would've made it more expensive, use heavy duty metal, make the cars indestructible, and make the cars look like saturn from 1991-2002, except, today I would call it Neptune. Also, I would make the cars geometric as well.

[@justinbrutcher1579]

I must say, I bought a used Saturn S1 5 speed manual for $1200 cause I just needed something to drive until I could buy my "actual" car and it lasted a lot longer then I was expecting (it had around 150,000 when I got it) and it was actually a pretty fun drive! I was very surprised and pleased with that purchase.

[@harveybrooks1460]

I have a 97 Saturn wagon sw2 and love it. Only problem is the top engine mount is worn out "easy fix". My whole car vibrates heavily 😂 but my wagon brings me and my family including the dog everywhere now.

[@bikes7777]

The 2 we have owned have all been excellent. 2001 SL2, 2005 Vue (still own with 167k miles, original clutch), 2004 Ion.

[@shaunclancey1107]

its over 20 years old, still drives and the corrola wouldve been another 3rd of the cars price. 3000 sounds like not much but then that was huge back then its 30% more! today buying a spark for $12,000 or a yaris for almost $20,000. yea the yaris is way better but thats a huge diffrence in price. 30% is huge. id say if a car lasts you 20 years for $10,000 you made a amazing choice

[@txhuntsman]

Had one of the very first Saturn Coup's in my area. 91 or 92. Mine had the standard transmission. It was ridiculously fun to drive and the pop up lights made it seem cool. Got rid of it with about 60, 000 miles and up to that point had zero issues and I drove the crud out of it....sounds like I got out just in time!

[@Sphere723]

The history of Saturn was that a bunch of people in GM wanted to make reliable and affordable cars on par with Honda and Toyota, kinda start from scratch and do everything right. Internally they gathered up the best engineers, managers and workers in a new factory and started designing and making cars under the brand name "Saturn". As Scotty says, initially they achieved their goal. In fact, they did a little too good of a job. It became obvious fairly quickly that Saturns were just better than other comparable GM products, for more or less the same price. They weren't gaining more market share, just cannibalizing their own sales with twice the overhead while eroding the reputation of their oldest brands. As a company it made no sense. So all those engineers/managers/workers were redistributed back into the main brands and Saturn's quality started regressing to the mean. Eventually being dissolved all together.

[@tylerupham7817]

Do you know what years are best before they started going to down in quality?

[@coolkid-gl9zs]

Answer the question you sorry SOB...

[@mattc9875]

​@@tylerupham7817the last real Saturn is considered the SL of 2002. So anything S series is good, even SC models and IONs. VUEs are good if with the Honda 6-cyl engine. L series from 2000s onward is the turning point. After that, it was Opel/Vauxhall re-badged model cars

[@jenningsmills5398]

My buddy had a 94' sl2 350k miles when he traded it in.

[@PlymouthNeon]

and those cars were beautiful too.

[@Ebbsilen]

@@PlymouthNeon It depends of who look at them. As much as i like my 95 SL2, as much as i think it's ugly as hell. The 94 had better looking interiors tho!

[@AllJSeries]

2004 Saturn Ion 2 running strong!

[@wadecartwright4277]

Scotty doesn't know anything about Saturn's stop while you're ahead😂

[@hyrump5428]

My two Saturns are the best cars I’ve ever owned. 200k and going strong.

[@MiniaceX]

How does it look now?

[@hyrump5428]

@@MiniaceX sold them. One to a girl in town and I see her driving it everywhere still going strong.

[@MiniaceX]

@Sidney Grove I wouldn’t recommend buying it, those sensors cost at-least $30 each and the car wouldn’t run correctly with all of those sensors being bad, sensors are very important for your car because it tells the computer how to run the engine and being misread could lead to more problems. If you need a car to get around at the moment and only have 3.2k I would recommend buying an old Honda Civic . They usually go for about 2k- 3k and are very reliable with little to no problems. And if there is problems it will be a easy/ cheap fix. Same with with old Toyota camrys.