A note to add: It was brought to my attention that they are bottom ported, I knew this it just seemed like the ported sound only came out the front as the back of the port is closed off, so I called them front ported. Still doesn't change the fact the sound didn't change much whether they were against the wall or not. Also note: In most cases I use little to no " toe in" on my speakers. With the EVO 4.4s I found I tend to toe them in at least 15 degrees.
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
23k views in the first year is a record for me!
@rw4pjqradiomaster5293 жыл бұрын
Yes, I can imagine what a wonderful sound. Excellent equipment.
@QoraxAudio2 жыл бұрын
Thank god they come with discs for under the spikes. Spikes directly on the floor makes most speakers basically unusable in my house. I'm probably going to order white ones, it'll fit nicely with the black/silver equipment I have. My equipment is very forward leaning, so these laid back speakers can compensate for that a little bit.
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
Yes on my floor with out the disks they put impressions in the vinyl. They are laid back and work well with the Emotiva gear. If you have forward gear these will be a good fit. I bet the white will look nice although I would prefer gloss. These are we built and I feel worth the money.
@AbsoluteFidelity2 жыл бұрын
The thing with these Evos is they are crazy sensitive with vertical axis. People that made it work to sound crazy good actually bought new sofas/chairs to match the height they need. Horizontal axis is important too but vertical is crucial. They totally disappear when you are in the right spot but that right spot is narrow.
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
I rotate speakers often and just put them back in this morning. I will play around with seating, thanks for the heads up!
@AbsoluteFidelity2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Im fairly sure it will disappear with the right height and toe in. The evo is a fussy speaker (very), but when you get it sorted, you will be in for a treat.
@rosswarren4362 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteFidelity too fussy for me. I know they can sound good, but not everyone has the luxury of redesigning a room to make speakers sound good. I'll have to look elsewhere. Is the fussiness caused by the air motion tweeter in effect "beaming" the highs in a narrow cone? I'll probably look toward Polk R700 or Wharfedale Linton instead. Thanks.
@AbsoluteFidelity2 жыл бұрын
@@rosswarren436 just make sure you have the fire power if you get the r700, at least 200 watts. If you have that kind of power, the R700 is a no brainer.
@rosswarren4362 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteFidelity yes, I do want to hear them in real life first at Audio Advice in Charlotte, NC before buying. And do some comparing. Fortunately, I have plenty of power with an upgraded, rebuilt Carver M-500t amp now having 395W/Channel into 8 ohms. Crazy thing is that I'm generally not into overly loud music now but simply want good, balanced sound with dynamic range and decent imaging. The modestly price R700 might fit the bill. It was on special at Christmas for $879 each. I should have jumped on that.
@SammeLagom2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna save up for these! Oh yes!! I like your listening space, looks cozy and nice!
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of Cornwalls for a smokin deal so these have to go. www.ebay.com/itm/354182749744?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=YoknWRZDQFS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=YoknWRZDQFS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@SammeLagom2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 if I had the cash now I would buy them ASAP. 😍
@joanncooper37983 жыл бұрын
Yes these have my approval, crazy husband!
@blatantenigma3374Ай бұрын
I am thinking either these for a modern pair, or the Lintons for a vintage pair 🤔
@AudioElectronicsChicago3 жыл бұрын
Nice review brother, thanks!
@awwbollocksthen13593 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video very much 👍 but if I may make a suggestion... if you were to position your dual Rel t5i subwoofers 6 inches running perpendicular from each corner you would be amazed the improvement of the low-end, it looks like you've got enough room so please at least give it a go because I think you really don't know what you're missing! You can thank me later. I found it a little bit tricky trying to integrate one Rel t5i subwoofer but ever since I purchased a partner for him... I found the integration a whole lot easier and smoother.
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
They started back in the corner and have moved all around till they worked well with the Maggies. I dont use them with the Wharfedale's might have to try it again and mark the LRS spot on the floor
@ianrusso87909 ай бұрын
all the wharfdale ive ever had always been better than expected by a lot, I would compare them to Cerwin Vega or better
@scottyo649 ай бұрын
For me, certain types of music sounded good through them. I enjoyed them while I had them, but they were laid back on the high end, forward on the mid, but bass was enjoyable. The whole time I had them, it just felt like something I wasn't going to get used to. I had a hard time selling them even though they were in excellent condition. Just remember, everyone has different tastes, and the 4.4s were not my cup of tea.
@Hi-Fi3693 жыл бұрын
Nice looking speakers love the finish and great review💥👍🏼😁
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@WeebLabs3 жыл бұрын
I've had my eye on these for quite some time. Wonderful aesthetics but I'm waiting for detailed measurements. Have you considered making use of some room correction? It's one of the biggest improvements that you can make to any system and would give you control over that tweeter rolloff!
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
I like them to where room correction is not needed. I have been really enjoying them but I can see where some might not. I just want people to be aware of what they are getting. Bass is very good, mids are very good tweeters are a bit laid back. They are keepers for me.
@luisrodrigonunezolguin70383 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have the EVO 4.4 for 9 months and I am absolutely pleased with their sound. I do not use room correction, I listen to everything pure, since it improves the timbre of the instruments, their location in three-dimensionality and they do not need to color the sound. Tell me I need to test them with a tube Pre, I have only solid state and Amp. AB
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
@@luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 I tired them with my tube integrated amp and they worked well but I like them better the my solid stated equipment
@SuperGeorge2112 Жыл бұрын
They can measure any way you like it is how they sound that counts.
@WeebLabs Жыл бұрын
@@SuperGeorge2112 A CEA-2034A measurement enables one to determine exactly how a speaker sounds. It is quite an extensively studied field.
@MirkoMancini3 жыл бұрын
They look awesome, congrats for your new toy 👍😉
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am enjoying them! 😉
@ManuelMedellin.2 жыл бұрын
These crush the Klipsch RF7 in most Music, how Wharfedale managed to make these babies and the 4C center so affordable is both impressive and enigmatic, since the entire line uses AMT Tweeter, you'd have to pay double up for that Tech in pretty much any other brand. There is not much else to look at than the Evo 4.4 Set for this price class, the only thing holding it back is the mildly undersized Sub, for more impactful performance, add something like the Arendal 1723 1V.
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
You are welcome to buy them from me, I have them on Ebay right now. FYI I am keeping the RF-7 IIs, a matter of taste I would say.
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
Yet I get offers on my RF-7 IIs of almost what I paid new and can't sell the 4.4s for $1,100 when they list for $2,200 currently
@ManuelMedellin.2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Klipsch is overhyped but very very popular, because of their Marketing. I'am not getting the Evo 4.4, I'am most likely going for Monitor Audio Silver.
@TheLMMish Жыл бұрын
@@ManuelMedellin. What marketing is Klipsch doing? We have none here in Europe... and the first time I heard the rp8000f (after listening to most alternatives)... just ordered them. The sound is astonishingly accurate.
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
@ManuelMedellin I finally sold the 4.4s, $800 and they were probably 9/10. It's apparent you have spent little, if any, time with Klipsch speakers.
@SuperGeorge2112 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review.
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marks76462 жыл бұрын
I'm tempting on getting a pair of this and it only cost $1,175.00 a pair brand new in our country.
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
Thats a good price. I paid $1,750.00 US for an open box pair.
@bobannon77993 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Scotland U.K. Terrific review Man, Upgrading my speakers and the 4.4’s have been on my Radar for a while. Enjoyed your “real world” take on ‘em, good enough for you...good enough for me. Unassuming Audiophile, you have cable lifters, I have cable lifters....because they improve the sound. Saying thanks, because of your video here think the decision is made!
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
Always like to hear from fellow enthusiasts!
@mohabandijany9579 Жыл бұрын
Thank you dear for the review I have noticed that you sell them Is it because that it's a Fuzzy Spekar to get it sound right ? And how it compares to rf8000 & Arendal 1732
@sav1014.5 ай бұрын
Did you ever upgrade the crossovers?
@scottyo645 ай бұрын
No, I did not
@xsamitt Жыл бұрын
Great speakers!!!
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
Yes they were!
@tbonet8593 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Thank you for the video. If you don't mind. What was that music in the intro to this video? Loved what a I heard. Would love to find the CD.
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
I will check but I believe that it was downloaded from a free site and I think it is only a couple minutes long. No CD unfortunately. 😢
@tbonet8593 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Thank you!! I appreciate it. Maybe I'll get lucky and find the CD somewhere. Or find a lossless download, that I can burn to CD-R.
@roberttimofte4646 Жыл бұрын
Hello! I've just sold my Emerald 97 MK IV to buy this Evo's 4.4. Do you think it's an upgrade? i'm afraid that the bass didn't sound like the Emerald's. I don't know what to choose... Linton or Evo's, same price.
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
I sold them. Ended up taking $800 even though they were 9/10 with boxes manuals etc I will leave it at that.
@tomj69876 ай бұрын
They now come double-boxed - at least from Crutchfield.
@scottyo646 ай бұрын
I sold mine years back, and I could never get used to the top end.
@mbracerh2 жыл бұрын
good review
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
Thank you maybe I will do one on my tube amp.
@stephenmurphy78042 жыл бұрын
Heaven heaven and more heaven ....
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
Why thank you!
@markgoessling87043 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a speaker that sounds good in a smaller room at lower volumes. You mentioned that the tweeters were not as loud compared to other speakers. Do think that is why they are bi-wired to accommodate lower volumes? How do you like them when set to lower volumes?
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
I am glad you brought this up as I am going to do an addendum to the video. Here's why. A few days after I did this I realized that somewhere along the way my preamp was switched from direct to tone controlled. On the setting it had the high end truned all the way down. Once I saw that and switched it back to direct the tweeters came alive. Not forward mind you, no where near horns and more reserve than the Emotiva B1+ AMTs but sweet and easy to listen to. I typically listen at lower volumes, say 75db ish, and they are fine. They have now replaced my LRSs as my main speskers. Let me know if there are any other questions
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
In short I think you would be happy with these
@markgoessling87043 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Thanks Scotty great information!
@el34glo592 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Can these be used with low power? Like 30 wpc tube Amp?
@savanpanchal4513 жыл бұрын
I have these and on carpet. Is there any benefit of keeping them higher with adjusting the base?
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
Since I do not have a place to try them on carpet with padding I can't really answer this. Try it out and let me know what you find.
@totalplonker824 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful speakers but why have you got your stereo Rels on platforms? You do realise down firing drivers are designed to be a certain distance from the floor.
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't change the distance to the hard surface, plus I was on the second floor, I was trying to be nice to neighbors. Never ran the RELs with the Wharfedale's while I had them.
@robk57453 жыл бұрын
Did you notice the rel t5i’s much with these speakers sir?
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
At first I didn't use the RELs with the speakers but I am now. It took sometime to get them to work well together.
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
After a bit I stopped using them at all. The soeakers sound great by themselves
@Kabarrful2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Please tell me what kind of wires you connect the acoustics?
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
I used Kimber Kable Hero XLR interconnects, Audioquest Cinnamon USB, Waudio 10 gauge power cables, home made 10 gauge speaker cables and jumpers. I have another brand of RCA cables that I can't remember but they are silver coated OFC that I use for my A-12 amp, turntable and Schiit Mani phone pre-amp.
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
Opps I think the speaker wires in the video are WAudio as well.
@Kabarrful2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 OK. Thanks for the detailed answer. I bought wharfedale evo 4.4, should deliver next week. I will connect to a Yamaha A-s 1200 amplifier with a Marantz na6006 source. Now I'm thinking about which wires to take for them.Your video was also one of the reasons for buying them, as I bought it without listening. Thank you for a detailed description of this okustics!
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
@@Kabarrful Nice! Sounds like a great set up!
@Kabarrful2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Thanks!😊
@SDmountainbiker2 жыл бұрын
What jumpers are you using on these bad boys?
@scottyo642 жыл бұрын
I had bought those off of e-bay and they turned out not to be very good (banana's fell part). I replaced them with some home made ones made out of 10 gauge speaker wire that worked well. I am no longer using these speakers and planning to sell them.
@SDmountainbiker2 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Thanks for the prompt reply. You seemed to be pleased with the sound. Curious as to why you are selling them?
@poppawasarollinstoneboom93963 жыл бұрын
What are you using for your speaker cable management??
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you are looking for? I run a speaker cable on wood blocks. My vinyl floor generates a lot of static electricity so I figuered it couldn't hurt. I live in a very dry climate.
@FraGGile223 жыл бұрын
Trying to find alternative for revel f35. Would these come close ? Maybe got some suggestions?
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with any Revel products so I couldn't be much help there.
@streamcnoremorse33233 жыл бұрын
This or 4.2 with sub? How they play heavy metal?
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
They are alright but my Klipsch are better for heavy metal. The Wharfedale's are more refined, great for vocals, classical guitar and piano types of music. I always go tower instead of bookshelf speakers where I have the room. I have been using my subs with the 4.4s but I use a sub with my RF7 IIs.
@streamcnoremorse33233 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Thank for complete answer. Do not know why but I want them in small room. Even I can but LS50 Meta or R3 or JBLHDI1600 but I am interesting in 4.4. I think they need more bass but I need all range of frequencies for different instruments
@streamcnoremorse33233 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 So even lookink to RF7 4.4 looks decent?
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
@@streamcnoremorse3323 the 4.4s are beautiful! I haven't heard the Metas nor the JBLs but the JBLs I do have put out bass! They have twin 10" woofers like the RF-7s though. From what you are telling me I would go bookshelf with a good sub. I am also not sure you would like the Wharfedale's
@streamcnoremorse33233 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Thank you. I have got lated notification even you answered week ago.
@poppawasarollinstoneboom93963 жыл бұрын
Could you use super tweeters with them ???
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
You could but the longer I have them the more I like them. I would just get another pair of Klipsch's rather than add a super tweeter. The Wharfedale's have a really sweet sound I wouldn't want to mess with
@ajzepp89763 жыл бұрын
Great video and rig, but dude...you have cable risers...you're definitely an audiophile! Lol
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
lol 😆 I do stuff like that for fun not because it changed the sound
@johngault-9597 Жыл бұрын
Speaker baffle right next to a sofa...huh
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
2 houses back, but sometimes you have to deal with what you are dealt. It obvious you didn't watch any other of my videos.
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
Have to say, I love your system!
@Economist963 жыл бұрын
They are not front ported. They are floor ported.
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarification.
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
How about bottom ported. The sound doesn't hit the floor and the ports are closed in the back so I called them front ported.
@bpt12313 жыл бұрын
@@scottyo64 Hi, in the bottom there is gap in between.
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
@@bpt1231 yes I know this but there is not a gap in the rear of the bottom. I looked at them many times. Edit I meant to say many times before I made the video.
@diebackmischung503 Жыл бұрын
Are they much better bi amped/wired?
@scottyo64 Жыл бұрын
Have to say I tired bi-wiring but not bi-amping. Didn't notice much if any difference. I ended up selling them a couple of weeks ago.
@MrOnesession3 жыл бұрын
There are downportet!
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
You don't read the comments do you. Yes they port down then out the front and sides. Definitely closed off in the back. I have taken them apart as someone said spacers coukd help with the bass but I felt it made it "boomy"
@scottyo643 жыл бұрын
There is a comment from me "pinned" at the top, take a moment to read it.
@user-gf7kj5vj3p6 ай бұрын
cable risers? hahaha utter nonsense. Also for movies get bigger subs
@scottyo646 ай бұрын
It is a 2 channel system.........big subs are in the home theater system. I guess you didn't hear what I said about cable risers.
@user-wl7nr8wp1l8 ай бұрын
Сразу видно, что человек в звуке не очень разбирается! Мало того, что у басса самая большая звуковая задержка, так он ещё сабы поставил за акустикой! Зато провода на проставках!) Чуть-чуть - дурачок!))
@scottyo648 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you said. It won't let me translate