SCP-173 was removed from the SCP wiki

[@MR_ILLUSTRATED]

*CORRECTION: It was the author of SCP-173 (Moto42) that has asked for the image to not be replaced, not Izumi Kato.* Get your own SCP-173 figure: plushfoundry.com/products/scp-173-peanut-campaign?ref=illu For all those asking, the mouse I am using is called the TourBox: store.tourboxtech.com/?rfsn=6115640.a1f619 The wiki announcemnt: scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14469202/announcement-regarding-the-removal-of-scp-173-s-image 05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-14468375/discussion-removing-scp-173-s-image-untitled-2004 scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-14468376/discussion-removing-scp-173-s-image-untitled-2004

[@Mark-Wilson]

Thats kinda unfortunate.

[@beansat3am]

Rip peanut

[@Human_traain]

Cry and cope

[@Deqster]

Lol "slimy wankers like Andrew Duksin" had me rolling! 🤣 Bye bye peanut...

[@ConceptsCool4993]

@@niolelo people are allowed their own opinions, deal with it.

[@CT-Clone]

Peanut will always be remembered... his crunching of necks will never be forgotten...

[@RotalHenricsson]

"...and make it snappy!"

[@vivious_]

never

[@greenman1200]

They should instead use a drawing.

[@yvonne35533]

Neck crunching will continue. It’s just the image being gone and not the whole character. Now you can freely imagine what’s crunching these necks.

[@BROTHAJAKOB]

Well it's not like there getting rid of peanut he's just going under plastick no rock surgery

[@CubeItself]

no matter what peanut looks like, he's always the icon of SCP that we all know and love.

[@EngineerRiff]

I mean, I find a lightning fast neck snapper hard to love

[@ssww3]

He's one of many that comes to mind when I think of scp

[@lordpvt]

@@ssww3 same

[@jblsc08]

Love?!?! It scared me the first time I saw it😰😰

[@TwilightbornNebula]

Definitely, that and also scp 999, 096 and the the one that makes 096 cower in gear, don't remember which one atm

[@Bitzy]

Izumi is really based, knowing the impact that his artwork has made on the community and letting the wiki use his piece, even discouraging them from removing it. And all he asks in return is to not sell it and for people to respect his boundaries and not send floods of traffic his way regarding SCP.

[@FrozenDozer]

I think this dude is just an actual artist that loves creativity unlike many other "artists" on that planet that only care about the money, especially when they made a name for themselves. The dude allowed us to use it under fair restrictions which is really, really cool. Most wouldn't.

[@Bitzy]

@@gooquestione I interpreted it as him not wanting them to remove the image because he knew how much influence his artwork has had on the internet and he didn’t want the wiki’s copyright rules to get in the way of the enjoyment of his artwork

[@ReusableRocket]

Actually it's the original writer for SCP-173 that requested the image to stay

[@taylorledet3993]

weeb lol

[@kookykoruc1827]

@@taylorledet3993 u got a cat girl on your pfp

[@duckduckgoose8049]

It'd be kinda cool if they hired the artist to make a new interpretation of SCP-173 with the specific intention of it being used for SCP-173. That way, Peanut gets to stay in some form, and the artist gets paid and recognized even more for his work!

[@Congiary]

It would be awesome, but unfortunately he doesn't want anything to do with SCP.

[@lennysmileyface]

@@Congiary Can't blame them.

[@JoshTyrReece]

​@@Congiary Yep...I think it was more in the area of "I will tolerate it, but leave me alone". And I can't really blame him. Someone took an art project of him - that maybe had an very important meaning and message in his mind. Maybe even a wholesome a positive one. And made a monster that hunts and murders humans out of it. Yeah...I think we should just be thankful that he didn't immediately flip the bird and said "no". I mean, sure they could ask...but I really doubt that he would be interested in it.

[@oversleep]

Wasn't there like a new version of it going around that was supposedly going to be used?

[@dnaderelmasry7973]

@@oversleep that's correct, but it wasn't made by Izuki.

[@anthonywright2489]

As an SCP fan of nearly 10 years, I love your respect for the artist who made SCP a possibility by making 173, even if that is not What he intended when he made the sculpture. You truly are a good person for making sure that people knew that the OC wasn't to blame for the change, and that it was the wiki itself. I couldn't imagine how much hate the OC would have gotten if this just happened out of the blue. Keep up the good work. all the best.

[@eyes5877]

my scp phase lasted for like 2 years

[@Juno_Wolf]

@@eyes5877 mine 3

[@SunnyHikikOmori]

@@eyes5877 I would occasionally binge scp content for a day or week but get bored of it. So for me 4 years on and off. It just seems like something you'd only be interested in for a couple of days then forget about it later

[@iamtotallyfine8748]

1000 like

[@demochris1786]

Frankly if it wasn't for the legal issues in copyright claims the old SCP-173 would have stayed, but sometimes when you're dealing with those legal issues, you can't go against them otherwise there will be no Containment Breach games anymore, because you stole the idea, and let me be honest, if I'm asking, what's an SCP-173 based off the Weeping Angel who also breaks necks?

[@captainlazyartist2038]

Respect to the artist. His kindness will always be appreciated

[@xfreii9180]

@中村奈々 Japan

[@CKyogre]

@@juansolo9166 Did you even listen to the goddamn video??? 🤡

[@renharris6504]

@@juansolo9166 …Perhaps refrain from commenting if you’ve neither watched the video nor read the pinned comment.

[@juansolo9166]

@@renharris6504 I know what I said and it’s dumb. My comment was just emotional, because shit that’s non-profitable and only to have fun should not be this way and it gets me. I just hate to see that most of the hobbies that I enjoy are following this trend.

[@juansolo9166]

@@CKyogre Perhaps I didn’t, just read the other comment were I answered to the other dude.

[@GamePlayer553]

Always going to be thankful to the original artist for letting the image be used even if it took away from their original intent. I think that really shows the true heart of the SCP community, and for steps to be taken to allow that original intent to shine again is just awesome. I hope people in the community check out more of the artist's work and support such wonderful creativity. Gonna miss peanut, but I'm looking forward to what's to come for 173.

[@fupert]

173 likes rn

[@Neo2266.]

He’d be an ass if he didn’t

[@BuetifullPersun]

The OG design will always be the real SCP-137 anything else is just a shoddy knock-

[@irishakita]

@@Neo2266. no, he'd be setting the boundaries for using his art

[@walkerkids7525]

@@BuetifullPersun you mean 173 right?

[@berrypretty6305]

i never thought that the SCP wiki would grow this calamitously. when it was first starting out i always thought people would lose interest and was happy to see how it progressed. it's sad that people abuse the community so much, especially to the point of damaging the Wiki as a whole. SCP-173, the sculpture, peanut, will be missed. *crack*

[@rainxer9561]

Skidaddle Skidacddect, your neck is now [Redacted]

[@Ehrenlurch]

I swear SCP grew so much, i love it.

[@Kurotheskeleton_YT]

facts like that are always interesting, even if it wasnt real...people always enjoy things from other spaces dont they? to know what they are and how they work

[@rydz656]

That's what they get for letting the alphabet people in.

[@MrJedimedic]

Well, no matter what the Wiki has on it or whatever ideas come from the fans (I can’t wait !) we ALL know what SCP-173 looks like. Thank you Izumi-san, I hope you know how many people Untitled 2004 has inspired to creat art of their own to share freely with each other as you have with us.

[@epsilon-eleven]

Honestly, the new image looks better & more sinister, imo

[@snintendog]

@@epsilon-eleven lol its ms paint levels of shitpost cringe

[@thegoblin4948]

I think we all knew this day would come. I do respect Izumi Kato for being so understanding and allowing the wiki to use his art for so long. Rest in peace, our sweet peanut child.

[@soupsaurus]

Our sweet peanut baby will be remembered. o7 (Feel free to make an o7 chain)

[@opaquein]

o7

[@chinatang111]

o7

[@liammahan4497]

o7

[@lucario.pokedex.0448]

o7

[@sacha9957]

Izumi's reaction to everything was so wholesome. He didn't get mad or make drama, and was so compliant in exchange of SCP having to respect very fair rules.

[@skelespooks]

SCP has slowly been becoming trash.

[@skelespooks]

@FireCrestAmerica No? There has been a change in the content for a long time, and weirdos run it

[@skelespooks]

@FireCrestAmerica Also that.

[@gdigital13]

@@skelespooks that’s what happens when normies and reddit tourists hijack memes

[@Rat_Online]

@@skelespooks I agree. Nu-scp is absolute trash. OG scp would have absolutely never budged. Zoomers

[@jinxtheunluckypony]

Sounds like the original artist had been nothing but amicable in this whole situation. Good for him.

[@EyeofValor]

Which is why he wanted it removed.

[@jaimemarrero3982]

It would be cool if lore-wise, it was Izumi himself who captured and sealed the anomaly in the statue, but now the seal is coming undone, and the anomaly is gaining a new appearance.

[@guy6907]

**yes**

[@fireskul6613]

Relpying to boost, great idea

[@uselessartist182]

CAN WE DO THAT??

[@EdgarAllan2pointPoe]

This is a terrible idea. Leave the original article intact.

[@Zicolie]

He meant a follow up story you dummy to explain the picture change

[@noop2doop]

While it's a little sad to see such an important image go, the events surrounding it make me really proud of what the scp wiki and community has grown to be.

[@originaldatagate2]

I miss the old community, tbh

[@OBsurdityTV]

@@originaldatagate2 what's there to miss?

[@Auditor1337]

@@originaldatagate2 same, people that ask why just weren't there the first months, and instead just asume things about you.

[@originaldatagate2]

@Obsurdity TV unironically, the soul. Just a bunch of random people on the internet trying to have fun. As groups grow things become more sanitized

[@OBsurdityTV]

@@originaldatagate2 what could possibly have changed from back then? through growth you should still be able to find alot of people just trying to have fun separate from those who might be too serious.

[@Giant_SewerRat]

I'm honestly just upset that the 682 image isn't the beluga skeleton anymore. Taking random images off the internet and turning them into anomalies was the whole charm of SCP for me. I get removing peanut, as sad as it is, but c'mon, the beluga skeleton wasn't hurting anybody

[@twistedmyth5860]

It was, unfortunately, still a picture they didn't have the copyright to. With photos, the photographer still owns the copyright of the photo. But, I will also miss it.

[@cherrydragon3120]

Scp foundation is much bigger now then making creepy stories about random images. Its an entire platform of creativity and spooks, charm, death and depression. Happiness and luck.

[@RED-sl2le]

Wait they did? Oh and the new image is… well it doesn’t give me that SCP vibe. That’s sad

[@rustyjones7908]

It was ... Disgusting

[@NoNameAtAll2]

fuck everyone who defends licensing

[@opticalecho119]

I really feel like not selecting a replacement image will be problematic. Such an iconic SCP deserves a coherent visualization.

[@opticalecho119]

@Mike Dalby what?

[@TheSeamonkeyBrigade]

@Mike Dalby lol what this has nothing to do with self obsession I’m baffled as to how to reached that conclusion

[@ggundercover3681]

@@TheSeamonkeyBrigade ignore this weirdo. he was in another thread showing an ass of himself.

[@tylerslittlecafe1288]

@Mike Dalby Sure you didn't have a stroke there buddy?

[@parkourpotato6066]

@Mike Dalby your sentence straight up made no sense

[@Vicerion17]

The best alternative actually would have be simply asking Mr. Izumi, since his style and work is so deep ingrained into everything that is 173, if he'd be willing to contribute an "official" illustration to act as Peanut's portrait. It'd be the best of both worlds keeping the same feel as the original as it's made by the same artist, while also being CC compliant, not to mention send a massive amount of goodwill Mr. Izumi's way and to his other works.

[@lethallegend9883]

I think that’s a pretty good idea

[@mvshenhon8966]

Agreed

[@punusername3445]

Would be, but I think it would be very damn expensive too

[@backwardsbandit8094]

Sure but I hope you're not under the impression that you could request something like that without offering pay. He seems like a well respected artist and it wouldnt be cheap to commission him. That being said we could probably crowdfund the costs but it's also possible that Izumi isnt interested and wants to keep his art to his unique brand rather than being permanently tied to SCP

[@punusername3445]

@@backwardsbandit8094 also he works with multimedia art doesn't he? Sculpture and fotograph if I'm not mistaken, so that would make it very expensive by itself

[@_enki]

I wish there was a more symbolic way of taking down 173’s original visual to introduce a new original image for it: like, an addon to the wiki that states that 173 has somehow “broken out” of its “shell” and now has a “new form”, hence the old image is now defunct and outdated. That way, new SCP fans can read 173’s wiki and immediately familiarize with its new form while old SCP fans won’t feel like the new form seemed “out of nowhere” because the new form is somehow part of its lore.

[@aeyakieduenas1331]

That would be pretty cool!

[@shitsquirrel9]

I cant remember, but I think it was in the Avalon video by The Exploring Series where 173 was respected in an alternate universe and it stopped killing and started tranforming into different things every day in a museum. It just wanted to be looked at and enjoyed, so overnight it transforms into a new piece of art. I wonder if we could somehow use that bit of lore to our advantage?

[@Bleats_Sinodai]

In an alternative universe, peanut becomes a safe class SCP and is placed in a public museum for observation as it's containment procedure, as a piece of art to be admired, and for that it changes form and moves into different poses to keep the public in awe. So there's precedent for it changing forms.

[@Bleats_Sinodai]

@@shitsquirrel9 perhaps it changes form from not being observed enough

[@flax72l.a13]

Well but at least it will come back after being removed

[@DIN0911-]

RIP peanut you may not live in the wiki but shall always have a place in our hearts.

[@corruptflame1340]

That Peanut will

[@KurkoBaine]

Nice pfp. Also, peanut will surely live in our hearts

[@amandapanda5087]

Peanut will live on in our hearts

[@nxdeflowers]

RIP PEANUT

[@Snuffkkin]

Even though peanut will be removed from the wiki, I'm fairly certain that I'm speaking for everyone when I say that he'll still remain the "mascot" of the SCP foundation/wiki and will always unnoficially be the original scp-173

[@mushroomanjcc1954]

Correction, *Officially* be the original SPC-173

[@randomthings8732]

@@mushroomanjcc1954 Correction, unofficially be the original *Scp-173*

[@TheGreenTaco999]

@@randomthings8732 Correction, officially a nerd

[@missile008]

​@oddity1769correction, you forgot the ","

[@aþs]

SCP-096 fits well.

[@_Aly_00_]

While the original 173 will always hold a place in my heart, I completely understand the necessity of this change. Thank you to Izumi Kato for allowing your work to be so freely used even when it wasn't the original intention of the piece and thanks to you, SCP Illustrated for keeping us informed.

[@VikingTeddy]

One of the reasons (if not THE reason) for the removal, is the commercialization. Now that some of the SCP games are available to purchase, they not only go against cc, but the artists wishes. It was ok when the games were free, but not anymore. I'm glad they take things seriously. The wiki has grown so much that it has to take laws in to consideration.

[@VikingTeddy]

@FemonicRBLX Oh yeah? Well I smell worse than you.

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@VikingTeddy that’s simply not true, people use their own models for scp games

[@BenoHourglass]

@@Optimusprime56241 Except Izumi Kato has copyrighted the _likeness_ of Untitled 2004. Meaning that any works that use it as a base are in violation of copyright. Since it is literally on the SCP site, that likeness is the default assumption of how to create 173.

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@BenoHourglass ok? Most scp games have changed up their 173 models anyways lol

[@fjolliff6308]

Millions of people have seen this sculpture, I'm sure that the artist was just happy to have so many fans. I know I'd love to know that my artwork was seen and appreciated by so many respectful fans! I was so sad that they couldn't make miniature statues of the SCP because of copyright tho. I wanted my own little peanut to listen/read scps with.

[@walrusbyte263]

Best not to keep those statues around anyway. They can be a real pain in the neck! /s

[@ObsessiveMuffin]

Copyright aside, it really sucks to find out the original picture got yoinked without credit (im sure some people who are more versed in the SCP fandom knew the artist, but i had no idea). It definitely is a good call on the side of the SCP wiki's management, only fair to the artist. Having your creation loved by thousands is nice but being properly credited is equally important, especially for creatives.

[@samuraijackoff5354]

If I remember, the artist was very happy that his creation was popular. The issue was the thousands of people using it for money for things like merch, games, films, etc. if no money was made it might be fine.

[@Duplicitousthoughtformentity]

@@samuraijackoff5354 It’s an understandably tough position to be in, your creation is beloved by untold millions, but you earn nothing from it. Exposure doesn’t pay the bills, and artists live and die by credit. They need money the same as everyone else, and it’s unfair that others used his art and made bank off it while the majority didn’t even know his name. That said, I find it very telling that he didn’t ask them to take it down - shows me he’s a man with great respect for all forms of art, even ones that in a way harm him.

[@DarckAngel11]

Yeah, some people is willing to pay a streamer to say their name but would never donate a penny to an artist.

[@DJBSharpMusic]

I'm glad that Izumi was so gracious as to allow this, but his humility is amazing. After all, despite the situation, he gained much widespread by-proxy exposure without sacrificing his dignity. I wouldn't be able to be so humble.

[@anguishedcarpet]

How much exposure did he really get though? Not that many people would have been able to name him before this IN the SCP community, let alone the general public.

[@SentientMeatloaf1]

@@anguishedcarpet I think more people than you might suspect. The fact that that image was not compliant to the site rules was a little factoid that pops up every now and again when exploring SCP related materials. I’m not very involved in the community but even I knew the story behind it. At the end of the day though, even if very few people follow the trail to discover his artwork, it’s still more than would have happened otherwise with absolutely no exposure.

[@snailart14]

@@anguishedcarpet i mean almost a million people know this now, haha

[@strayiggytv]

I knew his name even though I never searched it myself. Pretty much every time a picture of his work was posted on /x back before it was the garbage hole it is now somebody would ask the origin and people would point the to the real artist.

[@snorgonofborkkad]

I haven’t heard an artist defend other artists creative property in a long time. You understand what art is, and why it matters. It’s refreshing.

[@xxmidnight12xx18]

Rip peanut’s picture, you will forever be in our hearts. But I really appreciate the original artist for being so kind for letting the wiki use their photo. I also really appreciate the wiki for being so respectful to them. I agree with this decision and I do think that we’ll be seeing a lot of new fan’s interpretations of this entity and I can’t wait to see the different ideas.

[@gigas115]

Honestly, I'm glad that the original artist allowed their artwork to be used in this way, and I can completely understand SCP's decision here.

[@capthavic]

Just good to see a creator take it in stride and be firm but fair when it comes to their art being used. It's just such a legal (and moral) minefield when it comes to ownership/use of art these days it feels like playing russian roulette if you are gonna get hit with a lawsuit.

[@TheGreenTaco999]

it's not a minefield silly, creator put in writing his consent for permission to the foundation to use that image. that morally and legally means it's okay and no he cannot just suddenly sue them without warning when there aren't even any damages to be spoken of. literally wtf is this madness

[@DummysGirl97]

I shall miss Peanut, but I'm happy that both the artist and wiki are being civil and mature about this. You sadly don't see that too often anymore.

[@lulu111_the_cool]

Yeah money let people do some wierd stuff

[@cherrydragon3120]

@@lulu111_the_cool damn, tell me about it. If anything corrupts people its effin money

[@clashoclan3371]

@@lulu111_the_cool Stfu, it's her art, you're not supposed to use it without permission, it's only fair if there's a copyright rule. Using art without permission is the worst possible act you can do in the art community.

[@Biggest_Hater2507]

@@clashoclan3371 Christ dude no need to offended over this. Being an asshole and telling people to shut up won't achieve anything, calm down.

[@t.dmattocks6119]

@@clashoclan3371 LMAO you just proved their point. How very mature of you.

[@burntrice9445]

Peanut will always be remembered, especially with the fact that when i was a kid, i was traumatised of peanut and couldnt sleep properly for few months and pick up a habit of always covering my face with multiple items for 4 years or so. He always has a place in my heart

[@figshwg]

what?

[@kotazzo8485]

Isnt the whole idea of peanut to not cut eye contact with him? Just a bit odd you would cover your face of all things for years when thats the last thing you want to do with peanut lol

[@burntrice9445]

@@kotazzo8485 dunno man, now that you pointed it out, that was actually weird lol

[@whostolethebeans4537]

This was 966, the sleep killer for me. Had to cover my head with blankets so that ill be safe :"))

[@AlphaArcturus101]

Can relate

[@mettsusharpclaw]

Izumi thank you so much for all these years, you are a very kind person and this is where SCP was born with 173, while I only know a few others "Peanuts" was one that got me into being at least a little interested in SCP. So thank you for all these years and I hope you have much more many great years to come to you.

[@StarsinRain]

Generally speaking as some who likes stories, gaming and does art, I think it actually makes the whole “share you ‘memory’ of peanut/Untitled 2004” very good for story development, as we have real-life stories like this. While an older generation tells and depicts peanut, the next will then interpret that into their own peanut, and it becomes like a retelling into a legend. Of course, that’s just a “big picture” and there is the internet/SCP community themselves to find the original image, but I’d like to see what will happen in the future to our SCP-173 and how it may change.

[@SuperRat420]

Yikes

[@SuperRat420]

It's not yours that's kinda the whole point of pulling the pic

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

Here’s my main problem, is I think pretty much every other design for 173, is kinda inferior, non of them are really as good to me as the original. It has the perfect combination of everything to me, mystery, strangeness, creepiness, silent menace, every other image just didn’t have it to me, it didn’t capture it’s feel, it was either just it again but slightly different or so different that it just isn’t the same. And if all others are just it again just shaken around, or so different it doesn’t have the same lightning in a bottle effect, and the original creator says “yeah sure” then I frankly find no point in changing it.

[@hatefulgaming1800]

I think the issue is that the new designs try too hard to replicate the original 173 design when they really should be trying something different.

[@seantaggart7382]

@@hatefulgaming1800yeah

[@evilgibson]

@Hateful Gaming this is very true. Need to be less legume/nutty looking. Actual chance to advance the story of the SCP where, I dunno, an attempt to seal 137 caused it to be coated with large bricks of concrete and rebar into a brutalist, unpainted form. It has taken in the new material and has found interest in using it's rusted bars to both pin and cut victims so it continues to keep the new form.

[@piratesageviazard1]

Yeah well, copyright

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

@@hatefulgaming1800 maybe, but I honestly feel the original design was lightning in a bottle, it has the right amount of everything, something radically differently just won’t have the same feeling. Like, what was that SCP game which had the totally new 173 design? I’ll be frank, it looked like a giant, sprayed turd to me, it was trying too hard to be scary, whereas the original peanut just was.

[@MegaTang1234]

I'll miss the peanut. Tho it's too late to undo the association with the Untitled 2004. Oh well, I'm just glad there was a build up to this. Interesting how the original artist didn't want the image to be replaced even if it was taken down.

[@colson3050]

The artist probably agreed it held meaning to the community but the site has to protect itself legally so the image going away but not being replaced is a good artistic and interesting hint at its incredibly important part in SCP.

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

@@colson3050 They could make a legal agreement or something. They have other options but choose a specific one which gives them full control to make a profit off one of the more iconic SCPs. This can go from good to greed depending on how you look at it.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@Buglin_Burger7878 Oh you mean the asshole that's trying to claim the entire Wiki and everyone else's work as their own and charge money for it? With attacks like these this was bound to happen all because of some asshole who thinks they can game the system.

[@AbysmalGaming]

He doesn’t want it replaced… but doesn’t want it used? How’s he feel about it being used in games? We should replace it and just get as far away from that guy as possible. Nobody cared about his art work until one of his works became the crunch man. Make something everyone can use freely and everyone has the same rights to use. Or someone make something cool, own it, but let people use it if they pay royalties, which I’m surprised the untitled guy didn’t do in the first place.

[@ltramon7463]

@@AbysmalGaming He's okay with it being used. What's he's not ok with is Peanut, or Untitled 2004, or its likeness being used for profit. As long as people gave due credit and not make money using Peanut, Mr. Kato had no problems. Such as in SCP: Secret Laboratory where Peanut is used, but the game itself is being sold on Steam. For legal reason Peanut had to be removed and 173's model had to be changed.

[@samcrompton7270]

Untitled 2004:was I good image Death: no I'm told you were the best

[@alfredmarcos1761]

Theory: the artist is an 05 and that peanut is a safe scp and its containment procedures is that as long as someone is viewing it even as an image then containment is guaranteed but they discovered it to be a cognito hazard and thus reverting to having d class view it while conducting maintenance.

[@beebajazz]

I would love an in universe addendum for why the image is gone

[@zioncristwell6201]

If you're looking at it you can not Harm it

[@lennysmileyface]

@@beebajazz They slipped amnestics in the water supply.

[@internetstrangerstrangerofweb]

Even if it gets removed from the wiki, it means barely anything. The thing’s immortalized all over the internet.

[@goyangi4143]

true

[@Veelofar]

Which is exactly why it’s okay to do it. This keeps the actual site much safer from copyright trolls, even while everyone still has a chance to see the original if they look

[@randomstrangerontheinternet404]

Another impostor? >:0

[@internetstrangerstrangerofweb]

@@randomstrangerontheinternet404 Small world isnt it

[@gabimurray5955]

Oh..... I'm glad this was somewhat wholesome, and not one of those false copyright claims. Thank you Izumi for giving us peanut for so long!

[@gabimurray5955]

@Mike Dalby who pissed in your Cheerios?

[@zaidannabilfadhlilah8100]

@Mike Dalby sorry dad

[@aapjew18]

@Mike Dalby Whether or not an image 'belongs to everyone' should be the choice of the artist, no? If not, anyone can take a picture of any work and do with it as they please, regardless of the author's wishes, efforts or finances. Many artists struggle for money as is, have a little respect for someone's work.

[@boojersey13]

@Mike Dalby I dunno man, having so many people profit in some way off of your work without even a simple credit? That would kill just about anyone. Art, especially to professional artists, is absolutely a vessel for the soul and the mind and seeing someone just create a concept/story/other artwork out of your work without any credit once it blows up? Yeah I'd be pretty pissed. Frankly I'm more surprised they kept this image that long.

[@diegoleonardia5358]

@Mike Dalby Source for where he made millions? You seem like the whinger here.

[@devinholm6496]

Damn. Had no idea he was from something completely unrelated to the SCP. Sad to see him go but I can understand completely on why. Great video

[@5Demona5]

I'm not exactly an SCP fan, I do appreciate them every now and then, and I've seen pictures of Peanut since his early years. It's nice to know where the original image came from, and nice of the Wiki to want to keep things in order with the original artists. Though, the art being drawn on the video would be a perfect image for the Wiki! He's staring right into your soul right before he snaps your neck!

[@Priinsu]

How does one not be an SCP fan? Thats weird lol

[@drapoel120]

@@Priinsu Idk maybe they could be busy with job career or something and not have time for reading fictional stories.

[@Priinsu]

@@drapoel120 so you're saying people who enjoy fictional stories are losers? That's weird man😑

[@alexanderson1091]

@@Priinsu I’m not a fan but I do enjoy a few of them, I generally enjoy real horror a lot better though.

[@usarolls6008]

@@Priinsu nobody said they’re weird dude- people have opinions and preferences. Either way I think we’re all pretty cool in some form.

[@thefancybarbieharlequin]

Rest in peace, Mr. Peanut. Your adventures on the SCP Wiki and on the meme side of the SCP community will come to an end. You made such a huge impact to the community despite that your image was snatched from a Japanese artist :(

[@GodittoC]

69 likes, make a wish!

[@thefancybarbieharlequin]

@@GodittoC I wish for my suffering to end

[@forthelolz1121]

Well it’s more like the douche wiki admins that snatched it away from us. They are the same people who changed so many of the SCP’s that “had” to be rewritten.

[@klayn5611]

I used to read a lot of SCP stuff back in like 2014 but with time i slowly drifted away from it, and from time to time i do get the urge and binge a bunch of it, i haven't been super happy with the current direction of the Wiki but most of it i think is due to it's unique structure as a open source universe that anyone can join, so its not something that makes me feel bad. The peanut sculpture was always interesting to me because i remember reading about how the original piece of art being created as some kind of good thing, i don't remember the exact details but i think it was called something like "The Friend" or something similar, but with the popularity and impact 173 had on internet culture, it warped the meaning of the art into something different, and i think that brings a interesting discussion to light about who truly decides the meaning of art, the artist or the observer. So despite me disliking some things about the wiki i think removing the image is a good choice, we should thank the artist for being kind enough to allow us to use it for so long without many headaches, despite my liking of 173, part of me feels really bad about the effect it had on the original piece, and maybe even on the artist's career.

[@ShinZprime]

why did you drifted away from it?? were yku forced to because of things like studies or job or because you lost interest?

[@Veelofar]

@FemonicRBLX you should really ask your parents before using the computer, 4 year olds should be on the kids only version of the site.

[@ShinZprime]

@FemonicRBLX cmon no need to be mean. people are allowed to share their stories on the internet

[@techpriestalex8730]

I think if your a artist. The fact that your work is even popular should be enough. Plus art is in the eye of the beholder. I think the Mona Lisa is a boring painting but everyone thinks it's a great work of art worth millions of dollars.

[@idkidc7513]

@@techpriestalex8730 say that to all the artist their art gets minted without their permission on a daily basis or, in a more simple scenario, at someone getting a job just to get "payed" with experience and recognition. Without moving from the convo any further, there's in fact some inherent value on the art itself that, if not reciprocated (like peanut has been), it ends up damaging more than being helpful.

[@Novasky2007]

We could collectively commission kato to officially paint us a portrait of peanut then all partys will be satisfied

[@whiterabbitserpentshand5645]

Peanut will always be the OG SCP, may his former image rest forever in peace. I look forward to his next image. Farewell Untitled 2004.

[@Fridge_Fiend]

There is going to be no new next image... This is really dumb. Shoyld just keep him, it's history amd the most iconic thing on the whole site

[@whiterabbitserpentshand5645]

@@Fridge_Fiend the image doesn't belong to SCP

[@grenadier6483]

@@whiterabbitserpentshand5645 After over a decade of it's use? It does now.

[@yeeoof1995]

@@grenadier6483 i mean there's copyright but who gives a shit about that?

[@msb46]

Farewell my ass that is 173 and thats his look no matter what no one will change that.

[@xd3athclawx554]

izumi is a real artist, the fact that he asked them to not remove it, even discouraging the removal, shows how he understands the impact it has had on the community and the creativity it sparked. he simply asked to have it not commercialised. true artists are about the creativity of art and the creatively different interpretations of the art imo

[@GGG_gaming]

CORRECTION: It was the author of SCP-173 (Moto42) that has asked for the image to not be replaced, not Izumi Kato. its in the pinned comment he simply mispoke

[@xd3athclawx554]

@@GGG_gaming ah thank you for the correction, i didnt see that my bad

[@shakinbacon3959]

Even with the correction of it being the author of the article, not the Izumi, I still feel that him allowing them to use it is the true purpose of art. Not money, not selling it off, but just letting others partake in and enjoy the creativity of the masterpiece you have created. In fact, it reminds me of what Freddie Mercury said. "You can do whatever you like with my image, my music; remix it, re-release it, whatever, just never make me boring." I know I'm probably missing something here, but seeing how generous the original artist was when he could easily, and within his full rights take that image back, but instead he let the community not only use it, but grow to the massive scale of the SCP Foundation wiki that we know and adore today. Izumi, if you see this at any point, thank you.

[@risottopose9970]

Being an artist is just like any other job if not harder. If selling your art makes you not a true artist than there’s no such thing as a true artist

[@smallmailman3992]

@FemonicRBLX gonna back up that claim bub?

[@harrylane4]

@@mark-ok8yx this would make sense if it were the artist who made the claim, but there was an update; it was the author, who literally wrote the piece based on the sculpture.

[@Jimmy-iy9pl]

@@mark-ok8yx The vast majority of people who've ever heard of the original artist have done so because of the SCP wiki. If it wasn't for the author of the original entry, Kato would still be stuck in obscurity as an online indie artist likely to never get a similar big break like the one the Wiki gave him.

[@rawhide_kobayashi]

@@harrylane4 You mean 4chan anonymous? The famous hacker? He personally got in touch with the wiki admins? Wow, that's amazing.

[@pirate_duck4985]

Firstly, very happy I've found your channel! Love me some SCP!! I haven't been paying a whole bunch of attention for a little while now, but when I saw this video I had to look! It's a real shame that the Peanut imagery will be being removed, does get me to thinking though... He's a "Peanut" they have shells, what if a way to further the original story & to adjust or change his look is to have his outer shell break open? No one has managed to do it, but what if the actual SCP decides it's time for a change? To evolve or grow up? Age? Adding new layers to what the SCP could actually be?

[@BraunStDenis]

RIP SCP 173 (peanut). You have broken necks, but you have come into our hearts and helped to found the biggest fanbase ever known. You helped to found my favorite SCP fanbase, from SCP Overlord (and soon SCP Heretic), founding SCP illustrated for bringing SCP's to life, and making amazing stories. SCP illustrated, I have been watching your videos for years, and you still know how to make SCP art. Keep going for years to come. 😉

[@kyledadragon]

It's time for the King and the true mascot of the foundation to go. I will miss this guy.

[@victorjun2421]

Safe to say that SCP-173 was the origin of all of the SCP Foundation as we know today, but the image removal is reasonable, considering how much the community has gained traction over the years.

[@snintendog]

Fun Fact Izumi is against this shit and is calling out the Wiki for rigging crap and getting ban happy.

[@infernalmaster9991]

@@snintendog can i see where you got this info

[@nyanpug301]

That’s how I discovered SCP and the fandom! It’s sad to see them go but it was a true blessing to find this amazing community

[@btat16]

@@snintendog I’d also love a source for this

[@MatthewBreck]

@@snintendog you got a source?

[@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT]

This video popped up unexpectedly in my recommendations, and is essentially my introduction to SCP lore and fan culture. Honestly, if I had seen Peanut in any other context or venue, my first instinct would have been to turn away and ignore it.

[@compatriot852]

The issue is that the current likeness of peanut is that it's widely known and associated with SCP. There's also the issue that all the redesigns just look like cheap copies

[@ReusableRocket]

cheap? CHEAP?! Have you SEEN SCP: Secret Lab's version? That's the FURTHEST thing from being cheap! I'd like to see you make a good redesign.

[@carsormyr]

@@ReusableRocket I wasn't a fan personally. It looked too organic.

[@ColdNorth0628]

@@ReusableRocket it looks cheap and kinda crap. Too organic, too amorphus, it is exactly what "overdesigned"and "reinventing the wheel" looks like

[@SCP-079foundation]

@@ReusableRocket The upper comment said that Secret Lab's Version looks very overdesigned and its true, you cant replace something so old and iconic by something so new and kinda lame, tbh, to me it looks like a design for 610 except with 173 colors

[@MintyEevee]

@@SCP-079foundation I don't see the resemblance to 610.

[@K2MusicKSquare]

I hope someone can keep the "peanut-y" and cuteness while redesigning 173. There're so many redesigns out there that only kept his horror side. However, 173 to me, he is the Peanut, who is both horrifying and cute at the same time. He has two different sides simultaneously which is the reason why I like him a lot... I just hope there could be a redesign that we can still call him Peanut, and maintains both the horror and cuteness aspect of him.

[@Stop_This_Madness]

:0

[@Chromeno]

I'm pretty sure they confirmed that they are not replacing his design, allowing the reader to imagine how 173 looks like.

[@K2MusicKSquare]

@@Chromeno I mean I wish to see someone making a design reserving those aspects. There're too much designs out there that only has horror side...

[@Dunno1999]

@@Chromeno Thats too vague, tbh. I think it needs a concrete design which should be discussed and accepted by the council of SCP.

[@Mr_Metro]

I actually think SCP; SL replaces its design really well, everyone still calls it peanut because it still looks like one while it retains its own uniqueness

[@Mark-Wilson]

This guy is actually important to my heart so its sad that he might go. Idk why but seeing this video kinda made me feel a little ache in my chest.

[@erxzyi]

To be honest, as someone who isn't really part of the SCP community, but has seen and read about a few SCPs, hearing that peanut (who I didn't even know had a name) was part of the SCP. Hearing this now, it's sad that Peanut will be gone, but it itself will not be forgotten. (The first time i saw SCP-173 was a while back in a roblox game called "the normal elevator")

[@WeAintJokinHere]

The first time I know an scp was 173 and I remember hearing about him in a KZbin channel I don't remember it's name

[@cakecrumb095]

I actually think Izumi has done something that all artists try to accomplish. Their artwork has moved the masses and made people feel something. All great artists strive for that. I hope Izumi feels very very proud of their accomplishment.

[@dakkenly]

He is quite accomplished where he's located, but having your most well-known piece disconnected from you has to not feel very good

[@Silentgrace11]

It’s kind of one of those sticky situations that you often see in writing, where sometimes the author’s intent clashes against the reader’s interpretation and comes to question of what is the true meaning and how it should be viewed. The author may not agree with the readers interpretation, and may be frustrated it became commonplace, but likewise often without that interpretation it would have never transcended its original meaning to begin with, and may have not reached as wide of a scope. It can definitely be a mixed sort of situation

[@SuperRat420]

Doubt he feels happy having his own creation hijacked and stolen from

[@enderoctanus]

@@SuperRat420 It isn't stolen. The statue exists somewhere. It would be like taking a picture of the Mona Lisa and making up a story about it. You didn't steal it. Sure you should credit the artist, but unless he is selling copies of the statue, I don't think he is losing anything from the exposure. If he sells little miniature replicas to collectors and those collectors decided not to buy because of association with SCP then yeah okay, that's actual damage. I think so long as he is named wherever the depiction is used, that's as fair use as you can get.

[@SuperRat420]

@@enderoctanus I mean yeah, it's stealing. Make your own.

[@4starseniormasterspecialist]

The character will always live on in the fans and I'm glad now I know who the artist is. Thank you sir for your art!

[@TheMysticalTank]

I remember when there was only 200 SCP’s. Peanut was my favorite back then. I completely understand why they’re removing him but it’s also sad to see him go. Man, I’m glad to see how much the community has grown. Side note, I wish I had made an account back then. It would’ve been a great time.

[@theastonvillaseal585]

Has gone on for a long time. An amazing character, even if his original image goes, which is fair. Live on, 173.

[@mainstream2226]

I disagree with the situation and think they took the easy way out instead of potentially collaborating with Izumi/Moto42 to make something new, but that image will always be 173 to me regardless, afterall we make our own canon don't we. Time to backup a copy of the article before it gets changed too I guess.

[@gipsy6495]

Peanut is more than just a neck breaking killer, he was the scp who brought me into the scp foundation lore, story, games and history, he is one of the best scp that we could never forget

[@EnmLpt]

*The best*

[@Gwest0526]

Removing the image makes complete sense and I agree in every front, it’s just hard to accept it because of how incredibly iconic Peanut is. Also not replacing the image is a really good fix because almost every other design of 173 just looks… wrong? Not bad, just doesn’t hold the same energy or mystery behind it.

[@sasaki999pro]

"Mystery" is the perfect way to describe Peanut 173's charm, because no other design has conveyed that feeling of "WTF am I looking at??" You don't know what to make of 173 at first look, what are the details of its face, can it even move its limbs? is it malicious or completely indifferent? Does it even possess sentience of any kind??? So many people draw designs that are way to overly eldritch horror inspired, others just make its features too obvious, like the Fractured Minds version, which just looks like a concrete automaton. 173 needs to be both unassuming AND uncannily eerie.

[@SLight-ty1pc]

That’s exactly how I feel about it. They aren’t bad, actually a lot of them look pretty kool, But it’s just not right for some reason. They just something missing about it… idk.. ya .-.

[@draconariusa7v421]

@@geneallen4711 This. Same reason why the new 106 image is nowhere near as iconic and scary as the original, it's clearly computer generated while the og was a real object.

[@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786]

@@draconariusa7v421 With the original, if you look closely you can tell it's a painting. But you have to look closely or turn up the brightness. I think the main issue with the new one is that it's so brightly lit that it just looks like a video game.

[@goosifyed9717]

Somewhere out there, someone copyrighted an imaginary stone block. And that’s a problem, because now we need to use a different imaginary stone block.

[@RingManofChaos]

The Peanut will be in the dark, while the new picture will live in the light Rest In Peace Peanut

[@JackKrauser28]

A new picture won't surge. The author of SCP-173 requested that SCP wiki do not place a replacement picture.

[@muggrootbeer]

@@JackKrauser28 that's kind of bs

[@b2superbattledroid977]

@@JackKrauser28 That's not actually true, he meant the original poster of peanut not the actual maker, but also Izumi doesn't really care

[@b2superbattledroid977]

@@muggrootbeer he's wrong

[@superskh]

Many thanks to Izumi for allowing the use of "Peanut" for so long and for many other projects relating to SCP. I look forward to seeing what interpretations people come up with, perhaps establishing a whole new canon for our favorite neck snapping boy(?). I didn't know the artist before so I'm curious to look at some of his other work!

[@Davtwan]

Understandable. Considering how many times the SCP Wiki has been under attack for the past couple of years, they want to make sure there’s no weaknesses.

[@Azurath100]

It's like an outside force is trying to stop it's story from being told or something...

[@doctordoubledakka3939]

what kind of asshole would attack the SCPwiki? Where's the profit motive? Are the attacks just fueled by hate?

[@Davtwan]

@@doctordoubledakka3939 - Well, there was some group that was trying to claim trademark on the SCP universe in order to sell merchandise.

[@willowids369]

@@doctordoubledakka3939 there was someone (back in 2020 I think?) who attempted to claim that the scp wiki, everything on it, and everything created for it was owned by their company. This includes the games, the artwork, and the forums.

[@doctordoubledakka3939]

@@willowids369 and will removing a beloved piece of art make this event impossible to attempt again?

[@aydenwright9782]

What a wholesome beginning, middle, and end to a legendary chapter of SCP history.

[@SCP--fj2jr]

"Don't be sad it's over, Be happy because it's only beginning."

[@SCP173Peanut]

The line went deep to me🥜

[@Jamal.dingleberry]

@@SCP173Peanut I will miss you peanut D;

[@Scarlet_Officer]

@@SCP173Peanut You’ve been a good SCP, Farewell my Peanut…

[@amandapanda5087]

@@SCP173Peanut We'll miss you, Peanut. You were the original, and you'll be remembered

[@liamoeun9011]

We will always remember what he looked like originally. That image will stay in our heart forever ❤

[@billclinton3862]

All I gathered from this situation was "You art helped but we are done with it now" while letting other people re-make the art and post it in a gallery. I think the image should stay up if they requested it as he graciously gave them permission to use it so long as it was not in a commercial manner. I personally think 173 should have some kind of exemption

[@snintendog]

the thing is they want to make MONEY of the SCP wiki now. Really is a huge spit to the community and the artist that actually supported the wiki itself.

[@billclinton3862]

@@snintendog It’s a horrific turn of events, I wish they had more respect towards the artists wishes

[@MegaBlair007]

@@snintendog ohhh i was confused as to why they would make such a stupid announcement when the artist gave full permission already. Well, that certainly makes things clear, cheeky buggers

[@asianjackass237]

Basically SCP Unity unlike its predecessor Secret Lab want to make money so they just have a completely new 173 to replace the old peanut since old peanut is not allowed to be used for SALE

[@dragonkillerz75]

Its worked for them being free for ages. Now they're just being greedy and want to cash on in the popularity the wiki has made, as a result, getting rid of SCP 173...

[@shoty_x1693]

3:18 My favorite line out off the bunch

[@ComicalRealm]

I’m actually genuinely surprised no one has tried to hurt or kill 173 before

[@theex-wannabeyoutuberwhowa139]

unless we count the cross-tests with 096 or 914

[@kingoftheoutergodsazathoth381]

096 tried and 106 killed it even though the 106 thing is cannon

[@seantaggart7382]

I think if this vote passes I think a final termination test should be done To send the original off offically

[@draconariusa7v421]

@@seantaggart7382 Maybe the test goes wrong and it rebuilds itself, explaining the sudden appearance change but that'd fuck with the "everything is canon and not canon at the same time" gimmick of the wiki so not sure.

[@seantaggart7382]

@@draconariusa7v421 yeah

[@mikemarin106]

Izumi is smart, 173 has given him years and years of free advertisement - without even trying. I disagree with the sentiment that it's "not the image". It was the image of Untitled 2004 that inspired Moto42 to come up with a "story", write it in a way that was completely different to every other creepypasta of the time, and get on 4chan to post the original SCP entry. Without that image, more than likely no Foundation. Sad to see peanut go. :(

[@LordDaret]

Moto42 heard about weeping angels and saw this image, put two and two together and came up with 173. It was because of the unique concept and what he saw in untitled_2004 that allowed him to kickstart this massive project. If we are going to find a replacement for it, people need to stop looking at 2004 and start looking at the original doctor who weeping angels episode.

[@Kkbleeblob]

it’s not really a big deal… the image will always be in our heads when we read that article. in addition, the image still exists, it just won’t be in the article. so i’m not too bothered by this

[@electrobob992]

Another Idea I had involving this... A termination attempt that only damaged it. Picture this, some of the outer anomalous concrete broken away to reveal something underneath. Most of it would still be intact. Just parts would be missing. Or layers in some cases. My theory would be a glass like material with a dark olive coloring seemingly under the entire sculpture, with small visual bumps on the surface. Much like a peanut. Now here would be the kicker... Staring at this specific material would stop it from moving even if you just glance at it even if you blink, however you start to hallucinate and go mad after prolonged exposure. Now what about things that aren't organic that stare at that spot you may ask? Oh things like video or artifitial optics would glitch, electronics with camera features would fail. Something else would be revealed after the termination attempt... Numbers, symbols, and letters would be present on the inside of the concrete fragments somehow that when put together would form what appears to be a web address, which upon entering as a url on ANY computer even those not connected to the internet.... It would open a simple web page, that would say something along the lines of "To those who have found this, why couldn't you have left it covered. Much like you, I tried to destroy it.. But I only managed to make it weaker.. What ever you do, please if you haven't already, please don't damage any more of the encasement.. It's much more dangerous than you realize" Maybe the page would also have reference to other SCPs the foundation have on file, including 682.. Maybe with a danger rating of sorts, with 173 being HIGHER than 682 if fully uncovered.

[@brandonspeed]

This makes me so happy and sad to hear, I remember when I first saw that picture I'd always be traumatized but happy I love the SCP foundation so much as it's what got me into horror/creepy pastas and such so it's definitely sad to have the iconic photo leave but it's better to have happened than not at all Many more to come, much love to the foundation ❤️

[@Termulus]

I don't want to see 173's image go, so many people new in the scp community will never be able to appreciate it like we were able to for over 10 whole years.

[@jaffacalling53]

Modern scp "community" is filled with troons and leftist cringe. SCP as a website and community is dead.

[@originaldatagate2]

@Jaffa Calling Unfathomably based

[@techpriestalex8730]

@Jaffa Calling 100%, storys are being changed to be more pc. Really shows that we should Gatekeep them out of the fandom.

[@cherrydragon3120]

You're right. Peanuts image is not what makes peanut, peanut. What made peanut famous is the story behind it. Izumi, THANK YOU for allowing us all to marvel in peanuts glory. It is great art on its own. The story that started the SCP foundation is great. Peanut will not be forgotten

[@mickeyomega2032]

173 will be missed! Thank you the artist that let it into our hearts!

[@sirfortress8058]

Honestly I didn’t even know that there was an SCP community when I was young until I found scp-173’s wiki page, it seemed interesting to read,watch,listen to the documents on videos and on the scp site, but now it seems our stone friend is no longer on the site (I meant website not containment site lol) but the good news is though that at least people can make videos of them still. (I hope)

[@syxlv]

It seems like everyday that something so meaningful and important is being replaced and it's very sad. I understand and respect the wiki's choice, but it's gonna be a hard change

[@Mikaro527]

This scp is the first I've seen as a kid, and the most terrifying still. kinda got me interested in Creepypasta stories

[@bennelong8451]

What about when the scp logo was a rainbow flag? That was scary

[@Keep1n1tFr0st1e]

@@bennelong8451 Gave me nightmare's

[@Xominus]

@@bennelong8451 The rainbow flag in general is scary.

[@NoSteps]

@@Xominus 🤓

[@NoSteps]

@@bennelong8451 👴

[@groovydudewithdumbintentions]

Artist: *this peanut thing is actually friendly and gives people hugs.* Fanon: *personally, I wouldn’t take that.*

[@williamh8445]

This feels like an end of an era holy shit rip peanut

[@nivannakingsman1383]

At this point peanut being changed won't actually change any damage done or reference to the art. I feel like changing it would be pointless. Idk. Anyone else have thoughts?

[@antonstjern8378]

Rest in pieces, Peanut, we will never forget 🥲

[@Whip_Cream_Waffles]

Scp 173 was the first scp I learned about and is what got me into scp stuff

[@shopnil4]

I find it interesting that the original artist doesn't want the image replaced. It's kinda like he wants it to keep its legacy.

[@clownrat5759]

Without actually keeping it. Wow. So gracious. Bow at his feet. 😒

[@shopnil4]

@@clownrat5759 It's not like the artist said to take the image off the website. This is the decision of the wiki admins.

[@CatacombD]

Don't say, "It's harming the original artist." The Izumi Kato s is happily allowing people to use his work, and has not requested that the picture for SCP-173 be changed. Don't say, "It harms the original artwork." Again, Izumi Kato is fine with SCP using the artwork. He clearly does not think that it is harming his art, or he would've requested a change. The only reason why this is being done is because SCP wants to make all their articles adhere to the new standards of the site. That's fine. I understand why they would want to do that. But I'm not going to stand here and let people dress up those actions and pretend that it's some noble behavior to protect Izumi Kato. Izumi Kato did not ask for this. Izumi Kato does not need this. Stop pretending that this is all for him.

[@cherrydragon3120]

I wouldn't even know why kato would even want to request the image removal? It gotten so popular that people started to look for sources and relatable stuff. Finding both HIS work and the scp foundation. He got some serious spotlights on him because of the foundations massive growth in popularity

[@Darqshadow]

As our wonderful KZbin stated, the foundation is wanting to clean up the wiki simply to protect itself, the content, the fans, and people such as the Esteemed Artist from assholes who would rather hack and blackmail everyone for money. That's reasonable and honorable to all. If the artist makes a new piece specifically to replace the old for the wiki that would be awesome and would help protect the IP from those who would do it harm. Perhaps woth some friendly suggestions and maybe some donations by the fan base it xould be possible.

[@eisas1306]

Unless the artist comes out and says "I allow this, or I'm fine with this" the copyright intent does not change. This might seem fine, but If someone brings up a court case, the copyright holder cannot legally just be unrepresentative of their own copyright. Well technically they could just push it to a public domain license or something, but they aren't supposed to act like it's okay "without" saying it. A case of where this has backfired is with the obey andre the giant art. The owner of the art made some of his money back, but he has probably lost out on a ton of money from people stealing the art, it was even in video games without permission. So, even if he is fine with the art, legally the copyright hasn't changed. Perhaps in court, the artist could argue that due to some medical issues, he didn't have the knowledge to adjust his copyright intent and thus by proxy isn't intentionally under representing themselves; but that's so much more difficult than just adjusting your copyright intent yourself, it literally can take 1 minute to do that while a court case can cost thousands.

[@sb792079]

I didn’t realize how conditioned i was to expect a “like and subscribe” message at the end, until this video just… ended. Very respectable.

[@IndianTheNaked]

Its honestly so frustrating being told to like and subscribe. I will if I want to but I'm much less likely if I'm being bugged about it.

[@ForeverLaxx]

@@IndianTheNaked What's actually sad is that channels can see their metrics and they always get big jumps in interaction/subscriptions the moment they first start begging for it. People really are conditioned to do things they're told, it seems.

[@cremacat518]

saying like and subscribe actually translates into actual money and for some its the difference between being able to afford to make the videos or not.

[@software927]

Had good memories looking at that peanut, may sound a bit cliche but also those years ago.

[@jaren12072]

Removing the 173 image isn't going to solve the problem their trying to solve. The wiki is never going to be able to disassociate untitled 2004 from 173 especially if they don't replace the image. Untitled 2004 will never not be known as SCP-173 removing the image is just an empty gesture that will achieve little in the long run. I'm not saying removing the image isn't the right thing to do what I am saying is it's to late to actually mean anything.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

The creator of untitled 2004 REQUESTED them not to replace it! Did you listen through the whole video or just watch the first thirty seconds?

[@jaren12072]

@@cursedhawkins1305 I am fully aware why the image is not being replaced and that has nothing to do with what I am saying. What I am saying without a new image Untitled 2004 will always be SCP-173 to most people. Also it was not the creator of Untitled 2004 that requested no replacement be made it was the original SCP-173 author.

[@lulu111_the_cool]

@@jaren12072 maybe the author as some that he want to use.

[@dark_messiah8183]

@@cursedhawkins1305 it wasn’t Izumi, just the original writer of 173. Regardless, I think the writer of 173 shouldn’t have universal say on an entity that vastly outgrew them. SCP is about the commons, they should understand.

[@kaisokusekkendou1498]

This is more a matter of understanding how reality works. Once art gets out, it is in the zeitgeist, and out of the hands of the creator (both of the SCP article and the art/picture). We do as much as we can to attempt to control it, to keep true to the creators' original intent/desires. But you can only do so much, especially for something that has been in our collective memories for years, approaching decades. It's like facing down a hurricane and railing that it shouldn't destroy this house. Yeah, lets do everything we can. But sometimes the force of nature, or flow of culture and information, is too strong.

[@dexaphobia8085]

It’s sad but I can’t wait to see what creative works come from this, I know I’ll be throwing my hat in the ring for sure and try my best to reimagine peanut in way that’s consistent with the lore and with the image we have in our hearts.

[@dorisso7287]

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[@dexaphobia8085]

@@dorisso7287 and got like a hundred more likes too, probably also bots though.

[@masugetz]

While it is true that it does undermine the original meaning of the artwork, I feel that it is a central part of the entire SCP universe. I mean, it is the way I first discovered this amazing universe and it inspired me in creating my own artwork. Letting go will be hard, but I am happy with the memories I have of it, and recreating it might even be the right thing to do, and let new artists pave the way towards a better community. Thank you Izumi, for having a part in this amazing universe, it wouldn't have been what it is without you.

[@Commitment_Endured]

Now that we can't see him, he will always be moving closer.

[@DarthDestructusTheSithLord]

I just thought of a potentially fun way to explain away the change in his appearance. Remember that old story that SCP illustrated did that showed 173 versus 106? In that story that was done, 106 destroyed the block year version of 173, turning the statue down to rubble. It would be later on that a security team would accidentally come upon what we now know as Peanut. That story can be re-adapted into the original 173 being destroyed and the new one being what is discovered.

[@commanderkris93]

3:17 Roger that sir. We know the orders. *Proceeds to initiate riots all around the world because of peanut*

[@Caragoner]

You know what They should commission the original artist to do their own image of 173 That would be dope as hell

[@SpinosaurusStudios_]

Well that’s stupid, nobody even knew about the artist and it wouldn’t be famous today. All they had to do was write with bold text “THIS ARTIST CREATED HIM, HE IS OUR NINTENDO LORD AND SAVIOR” and boom problem solved. I reject the new design, peanut forever.

[@sponge540]

Salute to both Mr. Izumi and the Peanut. Their effect on the internet society is more than anyone can do in a hundred years.