Scrambler 400X - Road riding thoughts (still early days)

[@nathanthepostman]

Quick note and fill in on the diesel car comparison as I appreciate it was a bit vague. Early turbo diesels = all low to midrange punch, then ran out of puff. Short shift up to ride the torque. This feels the same. More in the middle than there is up top.

[@splodge57]

I had a 2003 Laguna diesel, one of the nicest cars I've ever owned. So I should like this Scrambler.

[@nathanthepostman]

​@@splodge57haha. Lovely old wafter I bet

[@storm19802]

Must be a Triumph thing as my Tiger800 gen3 has tons of low to mid then goes flat as a fart above 6 thou. Funnily enough though if I restrict it to rain mode it cuts the low to mid and I get the top end rush back!

[@bruceleong9534]

Nathan tells me the kinds of things I want to know about a bike and uses the kind of language I can identify with. As more manufacturers and riders shift focus to smaller sized adventure style bikes this channel will come into its own. Thanks for another brilliant review.

[@RickWaterman2112]

Well said. Fully agree 👍🏻

[@Cartsp70]

As reviews go this is a good one and yeah 40 hp is actually quite good but The only way to review a bike is to leave your house and ride it for yourself. I demoed this bike on Saturday it might look good on KZbin but it definitely doesn’t ride good 5/10 also a small screen does absolutely nothing to protect you unless it’s as high as your face .

[@djwarren5081]

Always good to hear your thoughts. Proper sensible approach.

[@tastroman]

Coming off of a 411 Himalayan I agree with much of what you said. The Triumph really is a looker. While I could live with the low hp on the Himalayan I find the 400x much less frantic on the street as it pulls grades with no need to downshift. I do miss the wind protection on the Himalayan once speeds get over 60. I have my fingers crossed hoping the 400x will be more reliable than my Himalayan. Time will tell. I'll be 60 this year and purchased the Triumph as a bridge bike for weekend fun until I retire. When I'm done working I'll probably look for something more long distance friendly. I think the 400x fits in the category of being a bike you don't need but it's a bike you want. I also have a practical BV 350 scooter so passion played a role in the 400x purchase.

[@cowmath77]

It’s impressive how you give a better description to all of these bikes than the traditional Moto journalists. You can actually find downsides and compare meaningful aspects of bikes, which for some reason the other channels can’t… they all complain about spec sheet warriors and then proceed to list off spec sheets every video and say “good bike good.”

[@nathanthepostman]

Thanks cowmath. I suppose before running tours I did work for the bike magazines like Adventure Bike Rider and before that was a car journalist for a short while. So I guess I've done a bit of reviewing over the years but yes, you can predict that if someone's been loaned a bike to test it's going to be a 'great bike'. Until the next great bike.

[@cowmath77]

@@nathanthepostman I’m 34 so I get most of my Moto journalism from KZbin. There probably is more nuance in written articles from the other journalists out there I would imagine, but definitely not in their videos online. Very much looking forward to more content.

[@alanhayward6719]

That's because if moto journalists don't give a good review they don't get invited back to grand openings of new bikes.

[@davet7867]

Thanks for the update, I have a caballero that I commute into London all year. I expect to see these on the same run. Scramblers make Ideal city bikes.

[@nathanthepostman]

Totally. I don't know if I said it in the video but I do think it'd make a great city bike

[@oliviermagere]

This or the caballero would make a lot more sense for me that my 1200XC (which I love to ride) as I mostly commute on it. Wait and see.

[@oliviermagere]

​@@nathanthepostman you did, but you didn't mention the caballero though. Any thought on how they compare?

[@splodge57]

I like the looks of this. I think they will clock up the miles in town, commuting and weekend rides on the local country lanes. Great value, could be my next bike.

[@darrylredmill4376]

Weekend pootle out bike. Back roads, no rush , take in the views . Stylish and fun.

[@nathanthepostman]

Perfect summation

[@13thearl]

I think a lot of us older riders will be interested in this. Light, reasonably comfy and frugal, reminds me of my old Tiger 90 from the 1960s - only the X has more power and less oil leakage!

[@nathanthepostman]

Totally. Judging by the people on the owners forum it does seem to be finding a lot of favour with older riders in particular, which i think is why I made the connection to the interceptor. To me it'll capture the same market, but be that bit lighter and more manageable. Perfect timing as that market ages.

[@neilm930]

I agree with your balanced review. I test rode the Triumph Scrambler 400x last weekend and felt like I was a pea sat on a drum. I had a deposit down on the scrambler because it is a good looking bike, thought it would suit my requirements and I really wanted to love it. The love wasn't reciprocated. Got back on the Himmy and rode home the long way. Bikes are a soul thing ...

[@Cartsp70]

💯 agree 👍🏾 it looks good but it rides awful , no confidence whatsoever I’d rather get the bus than ride this . And yeah it really doesn’t like starting from cold

[@johncranwell3783]

Thank you, Nathan, always enjoy to listen to you ramble on in your own special way about your bikes…. Cheers mate, looking forward to the next one

[@RickWaterman2112]

Thanks again for your opinion on this bike. Been eying this one closely. And, as usual, I always get the most meat from your reviews and videos. Cheers, Nathan.

[@savingclassicmotorcycles]

Honesty and integrity are always two things that spring to mind when I watch your videos mate :) usually always watching with dad but unfortunately he’s in hospital at the moment after a turps op on his prostate yesterday. It’s been super interesting watching this one as it kinda sounds like the right fit for dad going forward as much as I love the T7 it’s not right for dad he was determined to give it a whirl though as that’s what he wanted, now we know where he’s got more issues with his prostate etc it’s going for something lighter / lower seat height. With his stage 3/4 prostate cancer we recently found out about. At the moment kinda swinging between a Scrambler 400x or a Triumph T100 as he doesn’t wanna do any green laning now as some experimental stuff he’s on thins the bones. So the road orientated T100 of a 2017 era for the smoothness of the twin n low seat height (used to have an 865 we both rode) Seat comfort, smoothness, weight of the stand an not fatiguing all are new priorities as well as seat height. Really appreciate the comments about the suspension Nathan first I’ve heard until someone else mentioned it on adv rider. Also just wanna say thanks for that absolutely superb 450 latest video I think it’s a trend with bikes now that they are going in directions we all don’t want there’s a disconnect between the companies and the consumers I ride a lot of older Nortons an see it with the new TVs brand. I think there’s so much to be said for the 411 even though I had issues with mine it was a motorcycle that captured what motorcycles used to be and the real enjoyment and usability they had especially with a long stroke engine hopefully Enfield can be humble enough to realise a lot of us wanted an updated 411 I know when I was at Mcn live they nearly fell over when I said that’s all I wanted a 500 long stroke but it’s good to speak the truth. Keep up the awesome work mate. For me it’s back to the Nortons as I’m selling the 1150 for funds n space so we can downsize the house and fufil dads dream of moving to Devon while we move down to near Honiton in 3 months so might see you on the local roads :)

[@simonryder4857]

Nathan , I’ve bought mine for exactly that reason. Second bike alongside my Multistrada V4S to mess around with up on the moors or locally around Devon, a few lanes and gentle tracks. Fun, lightweight and inexpensive. The Ducati is my touring weapon for long distances, my pillion, luggage and Europe. I’ve ordered the screen for the scrambler for a little protection from the wind and the rain in summer!! 😂😂

[@nathanthepostman]

It rains in Devon? Give over

[@BreezyRider66]

When you have the Himalayan and the 450MT you'll have all the bikes I want to try, might have to make an appointment!

[@nathanthepostman]

Definitely. With those two bikes it'll be the full house. Hopefully no one else launches a bike or I'll be broke!

[@iangriffiths9930]

The CFmoto seems very promising 👍

[@alexrtsimpson]

100% my next bike for the watford-london commute.

[@leeinwis]

Stay out of London, what a SHITHOLE.

[@juliandone15]

You have some fantastic roads down there Nathan...... I've not been to Devon for over 30 years so I'm due a trip down there again soon

[@lestersmyth692]

Thanks Nathan most informative honest opinion my biggest gripe being I’d rather it had a analogue tachometer with a digital speedometer they have it the wrong way round 👍

[@PhilipHolmes-f5m]

Thanks for your review, you speak a lot of truth.

[@petermorrall8337]

"Garage jewellery" - that's an apt description. I've had a ride twice on this bike and it's good fun but not for touring or difficult trails.

[@potholetheband6475]

Interesting what you say about the suspension. I bought an Interceptor last year and very quickly found that it can't handle the roads in Ireland in the same way that you've found with the Triumph - so bouncy that you have to slow down. I was thinking of changing my Interceptor for the Triumph but I did the YSS upgrade front and back instead and now I'm really happy with it. And I don't like what people have been saying about the gearing on the Triumph - 6000 revs at 60mph isn't great. So I'll stick with my Interceptor for now. Also got an XT600 for the rough stuff.

[@paulmullany7147]

Great review. The main advantage of no screen is that you tend to sit in clean air compared to how loud and buffeting alot of adv bike screens can be. Admittedly it limits what speed is comfortable but that is probably a good thing for alot of us. I bet it looks even better with bags on (dont all bikes). How do you choose which bike you to take out when you have so many cool ones to play with? Cheers Paul

[@trevorsmith8487]

Looking forward to giving the little Triumph a try in a few weeks time

[@rjsmith26]

Great video as ever Nathan, I test rode one and can totally agree with your comments, perfect bimble bike with lovely eye candy, for me as a rider who at times wants to crack on, its not the bike, I found it running out of steam as you describe above 60ish and getting very vibey, I don't think a gearing change would help either as it just lacks the top end. I ride a Duke 390 and a 1250GSA at moment and looking to change the 390, off to ride a 390adv tomorrow which will be interesting.

[@chiefenumclaw7960]

Excellent review!

[@guestappearance3211]

As an owner myself you a nailed a lot of things about this bike, engine, 2 hrs from home, b roads etc, but I’m don’t completely agree on suspension, I find the rear fine for all the above, but the forks def need a little something.

[@hctim96]

Just what I wanted to hear!! Thanks...

[@mark.e.p]

I like your analysis of the 400X - I have to agree. I'm looking for a 400-500cc bike for touring, off-road, and a do everything, and whilst l love the looks of the Triumph, l feel the new Himalyan will fit my needs better. (Whenever they arrive here!).

[@nathanthepostman]

Yeah that's where I'm at. Maybe perseverance and compromise with the Triumph would have it become a usable distance bike, but I'm not sure.

[@BikingChap]

Same here. The Triumph is desperately pretty but I'm not convinced it was ever intended to go off road. I think the new Himi looks stylish, if less out and out fashionable, but i suspect the engine will be a nicer character and it'll be WAY more capable if you want to do any sort of off road work.

[@EpicAdamMotovlogs]

I do like Triumph. I'm going to Triumph Taunton soon just to have a look. I'm also going to Bude to check out the RE Interceptor 650.

[@nathanthepostman]

Tough one. I never got on with the Interceptor. But loved the Continental. More spirited riding position = more excitement (for me). But try 'em

[@chefjoel68]

I am looking at this bike or a himalayan 452 as a first bike and plan on commuting on hwy (less than 20 miles each way) for work and for some light off road, gravel and some hills. I really like the retro styling of the 400x and the weight/nimbleness of it compared to the 452 which you say is much more top heavy but easily more capable off road. As someone who has done serious mtn biking for 30 years (and bmx prior) and still ride like I am 20, I think I would be better than average as a new moto rider. My question is the 400x capable of rocky hills, etc if it had better off road tires?

[@mohitmojito]

Hey Nathan. I'm trying to decide between the Scram 411 and the Scrambler 400x, and I'd love your input on which might be better for a newbie rider like me. I've got about a year of riding experience on a Classic 350, and after test-riding both bikes, I'm struggling to make a choice. I really enjoyed the extra power of the Scrambler 400x, but for some reason, the Scram 411 felt more nimble. Even though the Scrambler 400x is a taller bike, I was surprisingly comfortable on it (I'm 5'4"), just like I was on the Scram 411. I took both bikes through traffic, a few U-turns, and a short highway run. This will be my first bike, and my priorities are: - Getting in tune with motorcycling culture - Long-distance riding - Off-roading/Trails I have no experience with long-distance rides or off-roading yet, but I'm eager to learn. For off-roading, I plan to join some local off-road academies here in India to systematically build my skills. The obvious cons I can think of for both bikes are : - Tubed tyres on the Scram are harder to fix puncture on but spoke wheels are better for off roading - The Triumph might be more expensive if or when I drop the bike either on road or off road. - RE Scram while it was a lot of low end torque, I might miss the extra juice of the Triumph once I get used to the RE. Thanks!

[@nathanthepostman]

Hey man. Thanks for the message. I really like the scram 411 but I've been out on the triumph today and it's such a great bike. And it will do the trails as well as the scram. So I would say get the triumph!

[@pmay222]

im close to getting a 400 speed... but the leccy throttle is putting me off... i know Bosch is decent kit.. but i like a cable throttle.. and am leaning towards cb300r or even kwak z400...

[@leeinwis]

why not the new Z500 ?

[@pmay222]

i have an nc700x honda.. and a 300 forza.... i think i like the 80mpg attainable with both...not fussed about speed now on uk's ever decreasing speed limit roads.. the game has changed drastically@@leeinwis

[@rob-fb5xs]

I’ve got a near identical picture of my bike in that spot overlooking Porlock

[@1990-t1j]

I think the KTM 390 in both guises is a premium product. Lighter, too. I still haven't seen a bike in the 350/400cc class that I would replace my 390 Duke Mk2 with. Nick

[@freemaysin5088]

Can you do a in depth comparison on road and off road of this vs the G310 GS? I know you have done the wheels and suspension on the GS so it will be a little bias, but I'm stuck between the two.

[@BikingChap]

As usual I find myself nodding in agreement all the way through Nathan :) Far and away the best thing about the bike are the looks, even with my usual critical eye it's really hard to fault it looks wise, irrespective of price, and it was this that made me put a deposit down. When I rode it though I was a bit crest fallen. Like you the suspension, especially the front, seems needlessly firm. It's much less forgiving than the far sportier Z400 for example, and seems at odds with the image. I think this is what i struggled with, it felt either just a little under developed or more accurately rather mismatched in it's character. The looks are obviously designed to appeal to the sunny Sunday rider, no issue with that, but then softer more compliant suspension would sure be the way to go. The engine also felt exactly like what it is, a short stroke unit that had been tuned for mid range so you've lost the fizz at the tops end but never really get that thumping single feel of an old school Enfield at the bottom. Rather than a diesel engine i likened it to an old MZ250, not much at the bottom, naff all at the top but a nice slug of torque in the middle. They don't sound at all similar of course ;) Pretty though it is, it just felt disappointing and i look forward to the delayed Himi mkii with interest! :)

[@densamme1752]

I'm not shure but from the reviews I have consumed it seems like the 400x is THE successor to the old Himalayan and the new 450 Himalayan is a miniature Triump 1200 Scrambler.

[@nathanthepostman]

I've done a lot of miles on the original Himalayan and to be honest, as a travel bike this triumph isn't a patch on it in many ways. But as a fun, short distance bike it'd be the pick of the two IMO. I personally think the new Himalayan is going to be much like the old one but with more power and less chug!

[@densamme1752]

@@nathanthepostman I have test ridden the old Himalayan, I just wish that I could use it for commuting to but it doesn't cope well at 110-140km/h traffic It is amazing for forestlanes here in northen Sweden. I actually wanted a "postie" but Hond didn't release them on the EU-market for whatever reason. That would have fitted nicely by my old CB750 in the garage.

[@drd3816]

Good review and update you are fair in your musings Nathan----I am over 3000km now on my 400X-give yours a go once you pass break in--i almost wonder if the ECU retards the engine over 6500 RPM until break in is completed? Im looking at more road biased tires right now the Karoo streets are loud and seem heavy i want 90/10 tires next when these wear out so i am road biased I am low rpm's in town but run 6-10k when i wanna rip thats where this bike shines IMO--i thought it was a mid range bike too--just wrapped up a trip of 4- 7 hours a day in the saddle at highway speeds-120-140km/hr--i agree most people wont use it like this at all--i live in a hot country and not having anything in front of me is heaven-my mesh clothing gets airflow i love it. You are correct most folks will not tour on it i will though as its a big step up from my last touring bike a CRF250L that i did 35,000km on.I never changed the suspension on my Honda Rally and it was too soft and yes the 400X is the opposite but not hard to deal with for me because i am enjoying not having the front end wash out when i brake hard on the 400X as compared to the CRF250L which was just floaty suspension overall. In both cases i just rode and lived with it but i will look at the budget suspension upgrade path on the 400X for the forks. Been using the 400x as a scooter in the town i live where 90% of folks use scooters for transport and its fine but too big to park and eventually i will get it beat up in the scooter parking spots so i am buying a stand alone scooter today but i found the 400x pretty nimble overall. I wont be doing much offroad like yourself so i am more road biased. Its still breaking in.... the suspension is getting softer i have to keeping adding to the preload and i would like a progressive fork spring but no complaints other than the immobilizer buggering up...in a cold climate well....dunno about touring on anything without wind protection--too much range of temperature during the day but in a hot climate a scrambler its ideal. Maybe i change my mind during rainy season haha--racks arriving in a few days will carry 70 L with a tank bag/rear duffle and side bag all PVC dry bags--will be doing 30-50,000km a year so i hope this thing is reliable

[@nathanthepostman]

Brilliant post drd. Great to hear from someone who's got some miles on the bike. Interesting about the engine and the possible restriction until run in. It does feel like thst could be the case and I've read a few other people say the suspension softens up a bit. I need to get some miles on mine and give it a fair test. Keep us posted on how you're getting on with it over the miles

[@drd3816]

Will do and thanks for updating as well Nathan -I messaged YSS suspension so I’m hoping they have something available soon-Triumph could easily sell a XC or XE version of the 400x but it’s a bike built at a budget so it’s up to us I suppose to mess around and see what can be done-ya it really felt like a restriction set in at 6500rpm pre 1000km odo mark but it may have been my imagination-I know max HP is at 8000rpm and it’s where you find ten sweet spot but when I go past there and hit the limiter I lose momentum -yes I am riding like a hooligan on occasion haha-I don’t think this end of the RPM range is useful for off-road riding -but it surprised me when I tapped into it while trying to keep up to faster riding buddies who have twice the HP -

[@drd3816]

@@nathanthepostman btw I wouldn’t think this bikes suspension is very dirt worthy either it’s softer now with break in but needs damping and like you say more travel to do a lot of off-roading -I’m the one guy who is planning on touring with this bike it seems

[@planefrog]

I had read the Himalayan was to appear in March so I'm disappointed to hear it's been put back to May. I've watched a lot of the reviews that have come from India but I really want to hear some opinions from people in the UK. The Triumph looks good but I think it's basically a pottering about bike, and intended to spend the vast majority of it's time on tarmac.

[@OddSpanner]

First batch of new Himi’s are already in the UK, going out to the selected first dealers in the next week or so.

[@billcarr6289]

Got my 400x put about 100 miles on her. I'm 73 weight 165lb 5' 8". My thoughts too much vibration, very touchy throttle, feels a bit top heavy. Other wish I could really like it. As of now I'm a bit disappointed

[@nathanthepostman]

Hi Bill. Hope you grow to like it but yes I can relate to those points you've made.

[@user-ilikemotorbikesandfishing]

Hi Nathan I recently bought a used benelli Leonchino 500 and it has a lot of the characteristics you describe about the triumph it’s a great bike to just go for a blast around our Devon lanes don’t know if you have ever tried one but I think it would give the triumph a run for its money cheers John

[@BlazinBlades]

So Would you say a 6’1” 105 kg rider may find the suspension and ergos just about perfect? Thanks for a lovely early review 🍻🍻

[@nathanthepostman]

I would say you'd be alright on it with those dimensions. Probably suit it quite nicely

[@skaraborgcraft]

I can live with low hp, as long as the chassis lets me use ALL of it. Food for thought Sgt.Bentos.

[@nathanthepostman]

Yes that's where I'm at with the triumph and it's definitely not alone. Much as the 310 benefits greatly from improved suspension, so too I think will the triumph. Then it could be quite accomplished

[@mark.e.p]

I have heard rumours of a Triumph 400 Adventure. Tiger cub?

[@cptntwang]

I am undecided between this bike and the honda cl 500 scrambler.

[@turvyjj9232]

Go for the Honda, if you're more road oriented. Exquisite engine, nicer suspensions and general stability. Or the coming RE 450, if you really like dirt. Or get a RE 411 and be part of the real dream.

[@vnm_8945]

what do you think between this one and Fantic Caballero 500 Rally, ever had the opportunity to ride one?

[@nathanthepostman]

Yeah I tested one a few years ago. Liked it. And it's an interesting comparison, because to ride it's a no brainer (at least from memory). The Fantic is a more engaging, better handling machine with an engine that makes good power all the way through. I liked it. But I wouldn't buy it, because for the money I don't think you're getting enough bike (unless you get a good deal on a second hand one). So whilst I don't think the Triumph's not as energetic to ride, it's probably the one I'd buy as a regular buyer, simply because for the money it's a great package of solid dealerships, rideability, resale, value etc. Shame the Fantic isn't that bit more mainstream as it could do well.

[@vnm_8945]

Thank you!

[@JimKnight-x2k]

It looks like a good affordable city bike which will no doubt sell well but it’s a scrambler in name only. Maybe they’ll do a proper scrambler variant down the line

[@alanhayward6719]

I saw a KZbin video of an American that changed the front sprocket to a 15 tooth, which made all the difference on the motorway.

[@Geshmaal]

Had a demo ride on one of these since your first video on it, only on the road. It definitely feels premium for a 400cc bike made in India but the gearing is too aggressive and the engine is too revvy for my liking. It sort of feels like the bike is tuned for newer riders to feel like it's faster than it actually is, 2nd gear almost feels like 1st gear on my Himalayan, and I found I was riding around in 3rd gear when I'd usually be in 2nd. For my money I'd probably rather have a used Bonneville 900 over these new 400cc bikes, cash price is roughly the same and less of a depreciation hit.

[@user-ot1dv6ri4f]

I've always been attracted to this bike

[@pitchwife7573]

when you say two hour oribtal, do you not think it would be happy going three hours? a 266km trip for example? that's what i'd be buying it for to replace my drz400s, which wouldn't be happy with that idea at all!

[@nathanthepostman]

Oh yes definitely. You could spend a full day on it. Go on a long tour on it. I just get the feeling that's not how this bike's going to be used ..... more day rides. But I could be completely wrong and people do buy them for longer trips, but to me that's where the Himalayan 452 would probably be a better bet.

[@emgeesea3983]

Is the suspension not adjustable?

[@chrisg7704]

How would you compare the 400x to the Honda CB 500X ?

[@nathanthepostman]

Cb500x is a good distance bike and more multi purpose in my opinion. It's the bike of the two I'd buy if I was commuting, touring etc. triumph probably a bit more manageable on the trails

[@SuperDavensuziyoutub]

I find it odd that a 400, capable of well over our max. national limit of 70 m.p.h. can be considered just for two hours local rides? I've toured all over Thailand, Laos,Malaysia, two up, on far smaller scooters. Not to your standards of Oz to home on a 110😂!! But why would it not be big and powerful enough for a round the world trip? A decent protective screen will be about £100 region?

[@nathanthepostman]

Of course, any bike's capable of anything (within reason) so I was just commenting more on how I think it would be used and how I would use it, rather than saying that it can't be used for certain tasks. I did lands end to John o groats on a scram 411 the other year. Worked a treat. So would the triumph if that's what you had access to

[@SuperDavensuziyoutub]

@@nathanthepostman Aye,I suppose nowadays you have to keep the "biggest is best" crowds happy? It seems like only yesterday that a 400/500 was considered a big powerful bike. When we had no max.limits on motorways too 😂 Says he with an FJR1300.🙊

[@BikingChap]

Have a go on one. What Nathan's getting at is who is likely to buy them. Very, very few of these are going touring in the France Alps next summer but you'll see loads of CB500X for example. Frankly my PCX scoot felt nicer in the bends than the 400x...

[@expatbiker6598]

This is not a winter bike at all. Cold water in the cold. Warm rider is a safe rider.

[@Bob-oo7sm]

I like the new triumph .I've ordered a new tubeless Himalayan from cms Exeter .just a waiting game now.I did take out the new Honda nx 500 but just didn't like it

[@nathanthepostman]

Not tried the nx yet. I'm gathering it's just a 500x with a facelift

[@BikingChap]

@@nathanthepostman it is. Best bit is they've finally ditched that awful Honda reverse LCD dash and gone with a bright TFT. Finally.

[@Frillar]

wish it had spoked wheels.

[@splodge57]

As long as they are tubeless.

[@leeinwis]

The ever popular (why) gold forks look especially out of place on this bike .

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

A second hand Intercepter at a bargain price is a better buy in my opinion.l put 100,000 miles on my bikes so l ay concerned about long term Reliability and dependability. All of my bikes have stock suspension because I won't pay $400 for new shocks. My Triumph TR25W with universal tires is great in the dirt and the street. 60 mph down dirt roads and good on sand trails. Reliable and dependable transportation and rebuidlable forever ♾️. My 250's are easier to start than my BSA 441 Victor.

[@leeinwis]

This sounds pretty fake .

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

@@leeinwis Tell me what sounds fake?

[@MrEvhel83]

450 MT will rule them all when it comes..

[@nathanthepostman]

I think you're right

[@FTStratLP]

Uhm, for me it is a backhanded compliment to say a bike is on its best when standing in the garage and being looked at it.🤔

[@nathanthepostman]

Yeah to be honest I had to temper back on my initial impressions of the bike as I was a bit disappointed with it so it might be a remnant of that

[@janporkpie]

I think you might be doing some riders a disservice if you think it's just for Sunday blasts and kept close to home. I tour a CRF250L, an Sh350i and an SH 125 Mode. The Mode is the easiest bike I've ridden up Hardknott and Wrynose - I can't be in the wrong gear. When my Scrambler 400X arrives it will join the others as a bike capable of touring - it's almost as if you've forgotten all your adventures on Dorothy Nathan. My Scrambler won't be going off road - too heavy for that for me. My off road riding is on a CRF230f or Serrow.

[@skaraborgcraft]

I believe the comment is mostly aimed at the manufactures target audience, the vast majority of which own bikes as toys, rather than work horses.

[@nathanthepostman]

Yes what I meant is that I think that's where a majority of riders will use it, as that's what it's best at. If I was going longer distance and was picking a bike from this group then the triumph would be bottom of the pile. That's not to say it can't do it and won't do it. But as an observation of where it sits in relation to the other bikes I ride, that's where I see it. I'll be doing plenty of miles on small bikes this year so with the greatest of respect I haven't forgotten anything about the benefit of small bikes.

[@BikingChap]

I think Nathan is spot on in honesty. You will be able to tour on a 400x, just as some brave souls go off road on an NC750X, but few will use it for that and there are many, many other bikes that are better for that job.

[@stevec-b6214]

She`s so pretty, oh so pretty - vacant!

[@alastairtheduke]

How tall are you?

[@nikoscosmos]

A Triumph of form over function.

[@SezerPAL]

What I have just discovered, screen pushes more air and make ugly turbulence and noise in helmet Without screen flow is more laminar, I cancelled my plan to install a screen after experienced this. Anyone thinks same?

[@domi9577]

I really wish that they'd bring out a Tiger 400 this year to compete with the NX500. This scrambler isn't good for touring.

[@nathanthepostman]

That's a really good suggestion to be honest because then it would be far more comparable to the other bikes in this small adventure class. Hopefully they're working on something

[@thebrowns5337]

£5,600 is very expensive to many in the UK. Always disheartening to hear people treat that like pocket money. I understand you mean when compared to other bikes but maybe think about the way you word it.

[@nathanthepostman]

Noted

[@nicholaspratt7934]

I bet that car loved being splashed with muddy water.

[@nathanthepostman]

It's a Devon back lane. Everything's covered in muddy water.

[@nimblybimbly4002]

10:23 It's disappointing that we consumers have come to accept incomplete development of full priced goods.

[@nathanthepostman]

Yes you're right. We shouldn't accept them but a lot will depend on how quickly triumph responds to correct the fault. Hopefully very quickly

[@peterd3215]

I'm in the minority I realise but it looks to me like a Chinese bike trying to look British. Something off about it.

[@leeinwis]

I think it looks good , but quality is low and the company sucks now.

[@Cartsp70]

I tried it on Saturday, it’s a pile of shit 💩 that’s my opinion anyway but each to their own 👍🏾

[@nathanthepostman]

What other options were you looking at?

[@Cartsp70]

@@nathanthepostman I tried the Trident and the Speed 400 and the Street Triple Rs