Scrapping Copper Aluminum Transformers, Was It Worth it?

In todays video I process some copper/aluminum transformers to determine what the recovery is. I process them through the copper king then weigh each part individually to determine if they are worth breaking down or just sell them off. Leave a comment if you would process them or not. #scrapping #recycling #scrap #diy #projectshopfl #transformers #aluminum #copperking
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[@stickhillfarm]

Man, excellent data. You got the perfect balance of biz smarts, simple explanations, and no fear of getting dirty. You just gave us a TED talk on how to be profitable

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks 👊

[@kluafoz]

Would love to see the next video of how you could scrap these!!

[@ProjectShopFl]

I've made many videos on the process

[@jerrysadventures8952]

Thanks for taking me along today

[@ProjectShopFl]

No problem. 👊

[@iffy9776]

When I find all aluminium transformers, my heart sinks. The way you crack, then it does seem the best way quick and easy.

[@ProjectShopFl]

I fell you. lol Thanks

[@davidmerrill974]

Grinder, hammer. Jason is the shit honestly. His hammer mill works great for it and a person just needs to know the material so as to sort out one from the other. You know..

[@ProjectShopFl]

👍

[@scrapitjc]

Thanks for the breakdown. Appreciate it.

[@ProjectShopFl]

👊 Thanks for watching

[@lylestavast7652]

Always a good watch !

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks

[@cuscrapping]

Great breakdown!! 👍👊

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks

[@jr-a-cat]

I use a Milwaukee portaband and have a vice on a steel plate in a plastic drum . That way the mess stays in the drum and off of the floor . The dust will go in to a Gaterade bottle and made into ingots afterwards . After cutting one side off with the portaband , then will turn it over and hit with Air-cat air gun with spike tool it will pull it right out . This the same way that I do motors 👍👍👍 The guy's at the yard love the way that they are cut and they can see beautiful RED gold showing through .

[@ProjectShopFl]

Nice! 👊 Thanks for sharing

[@tracydouglas4059]

Really enjoy the breakdown videos you do on ballasts & transformers. You & thubprint are definitely my favorite scrapping channels. As an electrician I save all of my ballasts & transformers to recycle. I had a few of these combo transformers sitting around for a while. Finally decided just to remove the CU coils and bring in as irony aluminum. When I arrived at the yard I told them the coils were AL on the transformers and they still gave me the premium price as if they were CU transformers, LOL.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks! That was nice of them to give you the petter price. Back in the day I was able to sell all aluminum transformers as electric motors. They are on to it now though. lol

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

Lucky dog. I would bring my all aluminum ones in and got paid normal price for awhile but like Project shop they caught on and check now

[@robertlivingstone3947]

Great video and great info

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks my friend 👊

[@codiwonkanobi9788]

In my state at the start of this year some of the yards stopped buying orders above 600 bucks without taking the federal taxes out on the spot for legal purposes. That alone would make it hard for a smaller company to compete with the large scrap yards.

[@ProjectShopFl]

That sounds like a scam. There is no tax on scrap in FL

[@stickhillfarm]

a huge suck my **** to the eye are ess! ugh

[@rockman531]

I do not break them apart. Sell as is. Thanks for the video.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for sharing

[@bigcountryscrapper6885]

Great video

[@ProjectShopFl]

👊

[@andrewh3141]

I have a 4x8 table half full of transformers, I typically use my porta-band to cut the welds at the seam. An angle grinder would definitely be faster but I cannot stand grinding dust in my shop. As far as the hammer mill goes, the shaker table would easily be able to separate the copper and aluminum due to their density being so different. It would definitely be a two stage process. Hammer mill with 1/2” screen to a conveyor that passes under a mag belt then dump into a secondary hammer mill to further reduce it to 1/4” minus or smaller then onto the shaker table.

[@ProjectShopFl]

I was thinking it would be a 2 step process with the hammer mill.

[@greekgods3399]

love it

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks you

[@richardparker7304]

Your way is the best and the fastest with little disk or blades buying

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

You need to start making presses like yours because you can’t just buy them custom like that! I’d buy one! Thanks for another awesome breakdown!

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks I will be looking in to that.

[@lucafreestyle3196]

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[@lucafreestyle3196]

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[@lucafreestyle3196]

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[@kenord3437]

Reference using the tin snips, we are all entitled to use or adapt any tools to our purpose, we pay for them. Me, I use elcheapo tin snips for wires, and leave the tin snips in the tool box. But I have several tools that I have adapted to other purposes. So tell those fussy buggers to nick off. Ken from Australia.

[@ProjectShopFl]

😂😂😂 Thanks!

[@davidbofin2658]

A cool video, thanks from County Sligo Ireland 🇮🇪 😎🤠🚲✍

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks from south Florida 👊👍

[@scraprodriguez]

Nice!

[@ProjectShopFl]

👊 Thanks

[@johnangelo5567]

The math was very interesting nice content

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks you

[@cditzler6313]

theres no comparison in my opinion to Jasons hammer mill I just cant wrap my head around that way I mean simply hes selling the mill so of course yada yada your way is hands down the best way

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

I made a video about it but you should try putting a piece of carpet on your table and break a transformer by hand . It’s easier in my opinion you don’t need a ledge to balance on and it gives it the “give” to knock the weld loose

[@ProjectShopFl]

I seen you doing that. I will have to try that but I think the carpet will absorb some of the impact.

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

Yeah I’m eager to see if you’re do it in one of your videos I know you said you were gonna break some more down by hand in other ways I’d like to see you try it on video that be pretty cool. Thanks for stopping by the channel bro

[@lylestavast7652]

re Al of Cu - weight, cost/unit, conductance needed in the transformer. Cu has much higher conductance than Al.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the info

[@iffy9776]

Copper is twice the weight of aluminium..

[@clairleasure434]

I would imagine a hammer mill set up like mbmm has you could mag the steel like you said. I think his wet density shaker table would separate the copper and aluminum fairly well. Maybe you should reach out to him about a collaborative video between you guys. Justa thought

[@ProjectShopFl]

His shaker table would separate it no problem but you would have to run it again through a smaller screen hammer mill I would think.

[@clairleasure434]

Yeah I think it would be a multi step process. Run it through the big hammer to mag out the steel then through a tighter screen before the shaker like when he runs ore. Although it probably would not be cost effective to buy/build that kind of machinery. Unless you were processing a serious amount of scrap it would take forever to see a return on the investment.

[@eby6114]

It'd be slower for certain

[@silverlicious2086]

Interesting breakdown and analysis. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Is it worth it? With the equipment and machines you have I would say yes it is. (except the all Alum ones). For the average Joe with a hammer and chisel, I guess it's a matter of figuring out how much the Labor cost is. Since it would take more time, ROI would be lower. I guess it would depend on each persons needs. If somebody is needing the money bad enough, they're going probably have to put in the hard labor to get every last penny.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Next time I get a bunch of them I'm gonna break them down by hand to see what is possible with out the machines.

[@silverlicious2086]

That would be a good comparison. Have a good week man

[@copperkingrecycling634]

So if the Wire Stripper is the copper king, what do you call your transformer press?

[@ProjectShopFl]

When I say the copper king I am referring to the hole table not just one machine. When I'm done It will have the baddest wire stripper, a granulator, transformer press, a stator/electric motor recycling machine, and a AC compressor opener. I will be able to process anything with copper. Lol

[@ScrapFatherScrapSon]

So I think you asked what the yard would take a mixed transformer as(1/2 copper/aluminum) my yard will take them as electric motors if one coil is copper, along with Double copper transformers:$0.22 / pound They will buy it as scrap if it is aluminum. Hope this helps. Curious to know that electric motors are going for right now for you?!

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thats a good price. I get .30 in Miami for motors.

[@ebre3080]

I used to stop at dumsters and costructionyard foremans but i can find less and less where would you advise to go and find/buy stuff? I am just a hobbyist and don't play for the points but it is always nice to treet the family on a dinner or something.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Demo companies or electrical contractors would be a good start.

[@Memeshorts21919]

what brand is the hammer

[@ProjectShopFl]

Estwing

[@cramped44]

How much pressure does it take to crack a transformer.?

[@ProjectShopFl]

I am using a 25 ton press and it struggles with the large ones.

[@brucewright5061]

1kilograms = 2.2 pounds, so 300 kilograms ~= 650 pounds

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the info

[@janfromdenmark]

It's 660 pounds, not 650 👍

[@brucewright5061]

@@janfromdenmark Yep I agree. It is just a rounded number.

[@Noone-wt5rx]

Do u have a video like this of how u buy copper wire

[@ProjectShopFl]

I think I do but I think I will make a new one

[@Noone-wt5rx]

@@ProjectShopFl I'd vary much appreciate that bubba

[@neeleydev2596]

I would take them apart

[@ProjectShopFl]

👊👍

[@neeleydev2596]

@@ProjectShopFl I’m going to start buying scrap from people

[@lylestavast7652]

Kg is 2.2 lbs.

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks

[@dakotashireman6404]

you should insert a transformers sound bit when you say transformer next time for shits and giggles

[@ProjectShopFl]

Haha ok

[@laisuresboringadventures7052]

Keep ur fingers outta there or you’ll be saying holy Mary if u smack your finger youtube friends

[@ProjectShopFl]

Thanks for the concern

[@adamwall1966]

Take them apart

[@ProjectShopFl]

👊

[@mattrowe9492]

waste more time talking about things over and over just to make it longer BORRING

[@ProjectShopFl]

I do tend to ramble, If you knew how much I cut out of each video you would not be saying I'm doing it to make it longer.

[@chrisholland2348]

Hey man what a good way to get in touch with you, i didn't see a email address in the description so figured I'd ask

[@ProjectShopFl]

[e-mail]

[@chrisholland2348]

@@ProjectShopFl ok thanks, I'll shoot you a email