LOKI Finale REVIEW - Did Loki Season 2 Episode 6 SAVE MARVEL?

[@ScreenCrush]

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[@DylanPinto22]

The reason why Love And Thunder was bad bcz the cast had too much fun on set. Marvel doesn’t do comic accurate stories bcz we would already know what’s to come next. Loki is set out of space and time.

[@luquepierce]

Hi Ryan Hi Doug

[@TrumpforPresident24]

No it does not save the MCU, this is probably the way to say goodbye and letting off every old MCU character one by one of their endings.

[@Hovitv]

2:34 big question after he took the Tesseract, what basically happened to Loki if he went to the TVA when the Loki go and find the avengers then? Because he was on the sacred time when he fought the avengers.

[@Julian.noa21]

​@@liphrium9858BEAT IT

[@compub3ar]

I think Matt's off on his take: the show isn't titled "The TVA vs Loki" or "The Multiverse According to Loki"...it's just Loki. That's the focus. Him and his growth. That's it. That's all it needs to be.

[@CrankyGrandma]

This

[@brandonljenkins]

He hates everything he watches, it’s all fake, just enjoy it dude.

[@outsiderking20]

Yess!! Like bro needs to relax.. it's just a show to watch and escape.. they act like this supposed to win awards 😅

[@Dingodan2829]

Right! They “over think” these shows sometimes

[@Major_Lag]

Feels very much like he’s criticising it more for not being the show he wanted it to be than judging it on its own merits.

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

Am I the only one who liked season2 more than season 1? I will say, I think Sylvie stopped being much of a character in season 2. Like I really think that she halted in terms of character development and the focus really just shifted to developing Loki which turned out to be amazing at the end, but Sylvie wasn't as interesting in season 2 as she was in season 1. Also, I'm a little mad that we never found out the true cause of Sylvie's nexus event.

[@YungBenGriffey]

I’m totally with you, I would’ve loved more from Sylvie this season but other than that I prefer S2 as a whole.. I think Voss at New Rockstars is correct in his theory of her nexus event: she was playing with Valkyrie toys and decided at that moment she wanted to be a hero (which means no Loki invasion of Earth and no Avengers).. whereas sacred timeline Loki needs to start off as a villain

[@a.loneManforEver]

I agree with you, season 2 was straight up fire, loki's development was in the last episode was crazy. And I also felt that Sylvie stopped developing, and yes I am also very interested in her nexus event, we really have no clues of how she messed up the timeline... I really loved that ending of sacrifice, it kinda resonated with me on a deeper level.... I don't know....

[@phoearwenien4355]

Not the only one. Many people liked it more. I agree there were issues like Sylvie character, pacing, some unresolved loose strings, but it was more impactful to Loki's developement and more fun. Marvel should simply cut this nonsense with only 6 episodes that don't even last full hour. Loki's change in season 1 was rushed and his character was sidelined, but in season 2 Sylvie was basically put away and many scenes that were needed were missing. Loved the show, it's my favourite, but at the same time I'm a bit annoyed, because I know it would have been even better with more screen time.

[@nancyscogin7549]

That's how I understood it. She even said as much while she was playing. She said she'd save everyone but that would interfere with Ragnarok so she had to go.

[@girldaddividendinvestor]

Season 2. 🔥🔥🔥

[@tannex4574]

Loki is the best MCU project in a while. I hope these writers are assigned to do Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars because the writing in Loki series is phenomenal.

[@hatchetmouth8211]

Good God, do you really want a nonsensical and unsatisfying period at the end of the MCU's run-on sentence? Because that's what you'll get if people obsessed with TVA cubicals are in charge of something the scale of a multiverse.

[@epzo]

DC is betetr

[@chrissy8655]

@@epzolearn how to spell first 😂

[@sonumondal5322]

​@@hatchetmouth8211So are you satisfied with Dr. Strange or The Marvels? This show actually dealt with Kang and Multiverse way better than any other. Not to mention, this is a SHOW, so the scale will be less in terms of story and budget. If they're given a movie budget and the freedom, the writers will do wonders on the plot. Multiverse is a concept that can easily diminish stakes but these writers proved that you can still have character moments that have stakes regardless, you just need to think that way. Some writers I think are also from the Rick and Morty team, so YESS, multiverse and unique concepts are in their skillset.

[@ayobamiallu7858]

What else does Matt want? This is a good story. Every part of it makes sense and connected to the overall picture.

[@mickdipiano8768]

He wants everyone else to be as miserable as he is.

[@dennispham4084]

I mean this in the most respectful way possible.. I like that matt is passionate about all the detail that probably maybe could have been added to the story but he is the embodiment of why we can not have nice things as not just MCU fans but marvel fans. Loki was nothing short of fantastic in all aspects, and he still has to nitpick the most trivial things.

[@chhart79]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@Matisaro]

he is also wrong about much of his nitpicking, he is the worst aspect of fandom

[@paddychin6517]

at least he has self-knowledge that he id s nitpicker! am trying to be positive (as far as possible)

[@rudesword2852]

Disagree. It could have been 1 maybe 2 episodes less. First 3 EPS of ssn 2 were so slow and plodding. It recovered nicely though. Kang is an awful enemy and majors isn't great, ominous, funny, or anything. He's meh.

[@YOUNGAVE215]

​@rudesword2852 disagree with everything you said I was hooked from the first episode.majors was by far the best actor in the show

[@nprbiz]

I dont know guys.. Are we all not watching the same Loki? I honestly dont understand what the expectations were for an MCU show anyway. The fact that Loki attained what it had in that finale, I consider one of the best writing, directing and acting this universe has ever seen. And if it wasn't, show me what was. I experienced more in 90 seconds of no dialogue in the climax then I thought possible. And to be left with a sadness but a sense of completion is quite an amazing feat.

[@farhanuddin3194]

Well said champ

[@IronicSonic83]

Dude Matt's take is just overly harsh. This is a great Loki story. Well writen, well acted, fun, creative, amazing cinematography and with high production values. It totally works!

[@stevens4492]

Not harsh. I would say snobbish. People who are on their high horse tend to behave that way.

[@dwightwright6334]

Yea I turned it off cuz he is deliberately tryna bash the show

[@josephmandato8647]

@@dwightwright6334 I did too, and I can't remember ever doing that for a ScreeCrush video before.

[@lcbrown2119]

He did the same crap in all of the Star Wars stuff. He seems so arrogant and like he hates everything.

[@B_Thompson_215]

i think ppl now just want to shit on Marvel cuz its the thing to do now....Loki was awesome imo

[@bumpercarjoe6391]

No one talked about how BEAUTIFUL the ending to Loki was with the Music and emotional high notes! It was AMAZING! So pleasantly surprised

[@MisterBrimm]

This absolutely worked. By the time the last couple episodes rolled around I was 100% invested, and the finale captured the surreal cosmic energy of the comics. At one point I was like "this is like Doctor Who at its very best. The emotional payoff was *chefs kiss*. I don't wanna hear that the MCU can't still make excellence.

[@hatchetmouth8211]

How were you invested? It was just a handful of scenes repeated over and over and over, until Loki decides to go outside not suited up, realizes there was never a need for a suit and just turned all of the dying branches into vines. It was DUMB

[@MessiahRamsay]

@@hatchetmouth8211yo are you really just replying to comments of ppl who liked the show? Lollll sad bro. The show was good. Get over yourself. Stop being a hater for no reason

[@MisterBrimm]

@@hatchetmouth8211 Why do people feel invested in Bill Murray's character in Groundhog Day as he keeps repeating the same day over and over? Might it have something to do with how he grows and changes? How the tragedy of the inevitable solution - which is ultimate sacrifice - unfurls? Also, he's a God, clearly a Nexus being, and has a unique ability to withstand being eliminated by time, if you watched the show you would see that he was LEARNING how to control his powers, then he had centuries of looping to perfect those powers. Anyhow, sorry you couldn't enjoy it, but it appears most viewers did.

[@PathBeyondTheDark]

I don't want to hear that the MCU is dead. It hit a rough patch just like every era/phase did imo, this one just felt longer because we had more projects in that time span. The beginning of the post-endgame era was, arguably, one of the MCU's best (again imo) with Wandavision through No Way Home. Oh how we forget this. And even within the rough patch afterward, (a thousand imo's) Wakanda Forever and Guardians 3 were very good, with Ms. Marvel being decent. Multiverse of Madness, Hawkeye, Quantimanium, and especially Secret Invasion were indeed trash. I admittedly did not finish Moonight, so Idk about that one. But yes, the bad has hit an all time high. It's easy to see it as "dead" when the bad is that bad. But when you look at the whole, there is more good then bad. Just stop looking at only the now instead of the whole. Just like a good ending doesn't make a good movie (a philosophy I stand firm by, thus why I *shocker* don't care for Endgame) a few bad eggs doesn't make a bad franchise.

[@MessiahRamsay]

@@PathBeyondTheDark even some of the ones you didn’t like or finish some fans found really enjoyable. Moonknight was a gem, the bloodstone thing was really cool, multiverse of madness and quantumania are at least fun on a rewatch. You’re exactly right that the MCU films have dipped in quality before. Nobody seems to remember Thor 2 and iron man 3. Even a lot of phase 1 was kind of mid compared to the unique stories we’ve been getting lately.

[@JustAnotherBlader]

Matt is the type of person who could write this show himself and still have a thesis on why it wasn't what he wanted.

[@sirbedevere4944]

I honestly believe he’s just saying this stuff to make the video interesting. Cuz wow he is such a hater for nothing 😂

[@forytube4998]

Karen

[@bintaburianska]

@@sirbedevere4944he isn’t a hater just honest loki isn’t the masterpiece you guys try to make it out to be

[@Gyarikku-Ho]

​@bintaburianska liking the show doesn't make it a masterpiece. Its definitely nowhere near bad.

[@GenaroBardy]

Couldn't disagree more with Matt. It felt like it was written all together all at once. Brillant show, my favorite MCU story

[@stevens4492]

One person has to be that way.

[@sampatterson2434]

I also think Matt was pretty much wrong across the board. It feels like he went in only thinking about things happening at a studio and didn’t watch the show in front of him. All of the other reviewers were talking about this show called Loki and Matt just… wasn’t. Honestly, if he is that unhappy he should give up reviewing Marvel at all. I actually felt a little worried for him by the end.

[@colereed7411]

​@sampatterson2434 ya, he just doesn't understand the show. I was eventually skipping over him because he can provide no information other than negativity because of his ignorance.

[@lcbrown2119]

Everytime he is on the show, he says the most ridiculous stuff. Did it for the Star Wars stuff too.

[@ellafieldipops]

I think that Matt’s take on a lot of the shows are way off the mark from my own. I’m glad to see others agree as I thought it was just me.

[@edgbarra]

Are we not gonna talk about how Loki spent centuries learning and trying again? It's insane!

[@Kraidismyspiritanimal]

This show gave us a good background on Kang and set up the new TVA to hunt his variants. As how this show connected to the overall multiverse saga, it laid the groundwork for Kang variants to be a threat. Ultimately, I agree with Colton that the show stands alone and feels more like a sci-fi/horror/ time travel show than a generic Marvel/super hero show. I loved how it put character development first and overall multiverse connection second.

[@sinkrocrtici945]

Horror? 😂😂

[@Kraidismyspiritanimal]

@@sinkrocrtici945 I feel there were some elements of horror in the show. Definitely. Loki panicking while trying to explain HWR's variants we're going to emerge, Miss Minutes going all Misery wanting to be Victor Timely's girl, the crushing of the workers in the holobox. Maybe not the dominant theme but I'd say it was there.

[@OrangeJambo]

8:14 Season One felt like we experienced the TVA. Season Two felt like we were experiencing Loki.

[@EloraDe]

The difference between the treatment of Loki and Thor is just insane. Loki is so much better written than Thor OH I BECOME FAMOUS 😅🤭

[@_TheViewer_]

I guess it just been the „bad situation“ the writers were in 😂 expect a lot of pressure on the writers in the future, since the strike is over 👌😂

[@ChrisVr994]

tbf Tom can act Chris meh

[@nuanceatnoon]

@@ChrisVr994fam have you seen the extraction series? Thor being relegated to being a comedic buffoon in his own movies was the fault of Waititi, not Chris.

[@andrewvega1308]

They fuxked Thor up so bad

[@Dave2kool4skool]

Thor Ragnarok is still one of my favorite Marvel movies. Shame that Waititi went all in with just jokes in Love and Thunder.

[@PopQuizPH]

I generally disagree with Matt's take (unless Disney decides to do a season 3 and dismantles whatever character development Loki had in the 2 seasons). Loki is probably the best Disney+ show that doesnt felt the burden it had to tell the Multiverse story despite having Kang and He Who Remains in the show because it placed Loki at the center. I really wish Tom Hiddleston gets an Emmy for this.

[@sophiawilson8696]

I think this end of Tom Riddleson runs as Loki.

[@ZyliceLiddell]

@@sophiawilson8696The end of his run as the ‘God of Mischief’ but not the ‘God of Stories.’ 😉

[@TurfZone]

The criticism about season two from that one host doesn’t make sense. Season two was not supposed to be the same as season one. He critics like he can write a better story. This has been the best show marvel has put out. It had everything, good cgi, dialogue, good balance of jokes and seriousness, and really good acting. The way the characters behave and react has been the most relatable compared to ANY other marvel show or film.

[@akashvig5007]

Well said man. Loki series was so good and Loki's arc was so well written and wholesome. The last scene where we see Loki through the green branches sitting on his throne and looking directly at the camera made me a little teary eyed 😢. I am sure the other host Matt is the kind of person who actually loved Secret Invasion over Loki 😂😂

[@ciancat]

I'm not sure how Matt missed so many of the points of this series? 🤔 It's like he's looking at a painting and is focused on the frame...

[@meepinandmorpin]

Well, he's a terrible writer so it makes sense he's pretty bad at dissecting written media, too. xD

[@Jcs1aughter]

Matt was right, you have to pretty much skip his parts in the video to make it through it. Why does he do this just to complain about everything. He is the type of guy that will watch half an episode and then get mad the next doesn't fill him in on what he missed.

[@Jimbo-123]

Yeah, I generally don't like his takes during these videos. He just complains lol. It's okay to point out criticisms, but at a certain point, it's like "Maybe Marvel just isn't your thing.. that's okay, but.. why are you even here?"

[@stevens4492]

It seems as though he doesn't like when things aren't explained in movies. He wants the MCU spelled out to him like this: 7:04

[@GoldGrub3201]

Exactly why does Ryan keep putting this guy on videos does he want to make sure we can fast forward videos lmao

[@HolyMateria]

I always skip his parts. 😅

[@hatchiedaveps5418]

Exactly!! Glad I’m not the only one who thinks this way about the guy! The worst part is that most of the time it feels he’s putting more effort into finding someone to criticize rather than enjoy the episode or the movie…

[@domdellanooch]

All I know is that on S2E1 I was like "welp, here we go again. Gonna turn another favorite character into a joke" and by E3 I was impressed and invested. At the end of E6 I was crying and so happy that I got a piece of that Marvel magic that I have missed so much.

[@19Ronny]

8:00 did bro really just complain about it having a plot and say it doesn’t stand on its own when both S1 and S2 are genuinely one of the only mcu projects where you can watch it without watching anything else

[@Chorizo1]

I just want to point out how well spoken Ryan is. He knows what he wants to say and explains it so that others can understand it like he does. That's a great quality to have as a host, bravo! 👏🏻

[@Dantayyy]

I love Colton’s commitment to the bit of him being stuck in the TV bc every time ryan brings its up he acts like there’s some interference by making sure his earbuds are working or something like that 10/10

[@jacobharvey2946]

I said it the other day, as much as it would be nice to have Colton be at the live show, I would love if he’s just a TV sitting on a table alongside everyone else. Even if it’s just a gag to start and he comes out later.

[@joewarren-tp2ty]

i wish colton had his own show so i could avoid watching him he puts me to sleep @@jacobharvey2946

[@johnduval760]

The only reason we, as an audience, care so much about the show being connected to the greater universe is that Marvel has announced so far in advance that Kang is the next big bad. If you ignore that story exists, you can actually care about the self-contained story of Loki and stop looking for more to it than the beautiful story that was written and the growth of arguably the MCU's greatest character.

[@hightolerance8728]

Well Said. It’s all I kept thinking about at the end of every episode. Like ok how did Kang get to the Sacred TL? is Kang HWR? How was the TVA able to catch Loki in 2012 if the TVA wasn’t even invited at that time bc HWR hadn’t got to the end of time 🤯. Too much info to process lol😂

[@mcgreeniepants]

Agreed. It's like what WandaVision was for Wanda, until Marvel threw all that character development in the garbage for a deeply medium Dr. Strange movie

[@claudedottin1312]

@@mcgreeniepantsyes!

[@jaynekranc8607]

The people who worked on Loki did an amazing job. They should be running Marvel.

[@StygianStyx]

fully agree

[@nickrog6759]

No they should be running DC to up the game against Marvel 😅

[@theboiis9005]

If thar happend Matt would be crying again because he'd be worried that they want better stories instead of trying to tie in a 100000 more projects, and remind the viewer that they're in a bugger universe every 10 seconds for a cash grab. This is Matt's image of a better Loki story 💀

[@sneakernickel]

This "grown up Justin Long in Galaxy Quest" dude is an example of one of those fans that will never be happy. This entire season was red meat for people who enjoyed the characters and perfectly balanced character arcs with necessary universe tie-ins.

[@danielhall1226]

Matt's critique was off. He's more focused on the bigger picture as opposed to being in the story

[@stevens4492]

He should be cut off from watching any future MCU movie and series. Hahahaha.

[@crystaljoymusic]

As someone who has not picked up a single Marvel comic (gasp), I can absolutely say that this series works on its own. I've seen all the other Marvel movies and the series (including the not Marvel but Marvel Agents of Shield) so there was a lot of context there already. However, I had no idea who He Who Remains was until I watched this channel. Sooooo, Marvel is trying to cater to a very diverse audience and with this show they certainly hit the mark for me. It was fantastic.

[@dr.stephenstrange8471]

Loki and Mobius have one of the greatest relationships in mcu history.

[@lcbrown2119]

Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson are so charming on their own, but together… man, it’s like max level charm. Both so talented; made it really work.

[@ellafieldipops]

They’re great together. I also think Rocket and both Groots are great together too.

[@christianspinks595]

Matt is such a buzz kill. Let's keep him behind the camera

[@TaraLionheart]

Yeah, more and more I'm not inclined to even listen to Matt's opinion.

[@rmy_Youtube]

​@@TaraLionheartThat's cause he never likes anything! It starts to make you feel like, why is he here?!

[@almostadonovan]

Matt's entire argument for season 2 not being great boils down to "It wasn't what I wanted." This dude is your Editor in Chief? I thought reputable journalists had pretty much agreed to abide by a standard that you can't objectively call a piece of art or entertainment bad just because it isn't exactly where you wanted the story to go. Thank God Ryan and Colten have brains.

[@squidpoequo7747]

Matt had excellent points, and the show had a lot of fun designs, and Loki was done well for sure and had a great arc but the first season was much better at fleshing out the characters, and Sylvie was done incredibly dirty this season. You can want something to be better in regards to more than just one aspect, that’s still subjective. Take a step back and let’s not call a person brainless simply because they disagree with you. (I’m not calling Coulton brainless despite him thinking Marvels is just average Marvel when it, despite its problems, was interesting in its own right and had some excellent aspects to it in spite of being held back in others. Same was the case for Loki). Nothing is perfect and you should be less defensive when people criticize things you love and be open to seeing the flaws in good things

[@joshuacollins9316]

@@squidpoequo7747I agree on not insulting him as a person. But objectively looking at the points he makes and his Criticisms of the show, it truly seems like he wanted it to be completely separate from what it was trying to be. Not that it was perfect by any means, but when you see the majority consensus giving such positive reviews. It is just a little strange. And tbh I don’t think he’s the best person to be on these vids. He is awkward overwhelmingly negative, to the point where I haven’t heard him have a positive take on any of the Marvel/Star Wars projects he’s reviewed. Even when the critical and popular consensus is overwhelmingly negative.

[@mayabarnes5973]

This is probably why their titles are always so negative.

[@almostadonovan]

@@squidpoequo7747 I'm not saying season two was perfect, but rather Matt's criticisms very rarely ever focus on flaws that can and should actually be criticized. Instead he attacks really strange aspects of the project he's discussing, like in this instance where he... questions the motives of the the TVA agents and why they don't want the TVA destroyed? Or how about when he says that he didn't really see all that much character development for Loki? What in the world? Rewatching season two, you can see a lot of strange choices like the heavy focus on X5 early on only for his character to basically be discarded by the end of the season. Some of the dialogue and character introductions are clunky, there isn't as much interesting dialogue between characters as there was in season one, and while I love OB I think they kinda shoved the idea of an oroborous loop down our throats a little too hard. But Matt doesn't bring any of that up. All he cares about is that the show wasn't what he wanted it to be.

[@almostadonovan]

@@joshuacollins9316 That's my biggest issue, yeah. He seems to be the kind of reviewer who just wants to find something to complain about with every project.

[@kevthepoet]

Not gonna lie, Matt was a buzzzkill,, killjoy here but he's certainly entitled to his opinion. And hwe backed it with reasons but Loki Season 2 was a masterpiece to me.

[@Alex-VaahEye23]

Matt needs a chill pill

[@mickdipiano8768]

He's so toxic and he's so wrong about things.

[@kevthepoet]

Was he toxic? I don't know, I'm trying not to be toxic so I tried not to be judgmental but reading some of the other comments and it seems alot of people think he's just itpicking about things not going the direction he expected. His article of "plot holes" is actual bullshit tho to be honest, like maybe 2 of his examples may be plot holes and the rest were whiny complaints that weren't plot holes at all. A massive stretch and reach to call some of those situations plot holes so yeah, he has a toxic side I guess@@mickdipiano8768

[@kevthepoet]

Yeah, it was his article12 plot holes in the MAavels and one of the so-called plot holes is the villain doesn't know KAmala has the bangle on. How is not having x-ray vision to see through a sleeve a plot hole? WTF is he talking about?

[@kevthepoet]

Spaceships having back windows was listed as a "plot hole". Huh? I'm not sure he knows what the phrase means...

[@DreadEnder]

Anyone else notice that the last time Loki timeslipped to the loom it was right as the computer said, “welcome he who remains.”

[@kattmilk]

I noticed that too. But that's right before Victor Timely put his head into the (thingy?). I think the machine was referring to him.

[@shadysif6220]

That's wasn't a coincidence, it's foreshadowing.

[@DreadEnder]

@@kattmilk yes it was, but why did Loki timeslip back to right as it said that?

[@kattmilk]

@@DreadEnder Your guess is as good as mine. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@missamy3727]

Loki said he doesn't want to be alone. Though he still ends up being alone, I think he isn't lonely, coz his friends still think about him and love him. That's one of the differences between alone and lonely, isn't it? Being lonely is you don't matter; nobody cares if you exist or are gone. Being alone is you choose to be gone from everyone, but you still mean something in their heart.

[@OhFloof]

This is well said! I think I found a new moto for the way I live currently ahah

[@FredericoASousa]

I think me and MatSinger watched a completely different season. I completely get that two people can have very different tastes and as such fell different about the show, but his opinion and reasons sounded so empty and meaningless to me. They were so convoluted, I think even he doesn't know why he didn't like the show. Sometimes you just don't really click with it, I guess

[@randydegner]

The Loki series is an example of how D+ should move forward with its shows - to flesh out and dive deeper into side characters introduced in the movies. They don’t have to set up the next big thing, they can be standalone stories that fit in the larger universe. Important that the character is introduced in the movie who then gets a side story, and not the other way around. I liked Moon Knight, and I look forward to Echo and Agatha, but for the general audience, no connections have been built with these characters for their shows to matter.

[@Cedarparsnip]

I really agree with this! You brought up something I've kind of had in the back of my mind, but couldn't put my finger on. I enjoyed Moon Knight a lot as what felt like a stand alone sort of story, and start to feel a bit fatigued sometimes with the shows that try to interconnect too much. With some, it works, with others, it's a big miss. Anyway, yes to all of this.

[@sceneinvegas]

WOW! the complexity of this episode in its writing, production and execution .. is TOP NOTCH and easily one of the best overarching stories that they have ever told.

[@ericawillis.]

He started by saying he would burn the TVA to the ground. And ended up doing everything to prevent that from happening

[@schools6555]

What an amazing episode of an amazing show! I didn't want it to end. I cannot wait to see where and what Loki ends up next! It's fair to say Loki has Transended beyond what I imagined when I first saw him in the first Thor film!

[@chadsherrill7559]

6:18 I love how Colten always takes his earpiece out as you remind us he’s living in a box….it’s the little things ☺️

[@sonalchd]

Loved this series 10/10, only complain is they put Sylvie to the side she felt a big part in season 1 & then got put aside this season kinda. And i rlly like how Loki plays a big part in the whole MCU but u dont need to have previous mcu knowledge except maybe thor 1 & avengers 1

[@TheTuneShifter]

Nice Godspeed pfp!

[@TheMaelstrom]

I think whether it saves the MCU depends on what the next guy does, if there is one. Wandavision did a lot for Wanda and the MCU, then all her character development got crapped on by the next guy in Multiverse of Madness

[@kujokev]

If this had a big release as a movie with press and marketing, I’m sure a lot of people would leave the theaters in shock, awe, and sadness. Infinity War type stakes where the audience and heroes actually lose but look forward to the next big chapter of the story.

[@stevens4492]

Agreed, this series would have killed it as a movie.

[@OldHenryLee]

I loved the show. Very entertaining. ... One complaint would be the building up of Miss Minutes, and then she was like nothing at the end.

[@strangelaw6384]

I was going to scream out at Matt Singer like what are you talking about but then it occurs to me that he expects this show to prioritize its place in the multiverse saga instead of just being a nice show that can stand on its own in terms of its treatment of characters and story... which is fine but for me that is a weird angle to look at a marvel show

[@MassEffect1988]

The finale episode particularly is one of the greatest finales I've ever watched 👏 Tom Hiddleston was flawless as Loki and honestly blew me away in everyway. He simply NEEDS to be the focal point of the MCU...

[@ZyliceLiddell]

He will be. He (Loki) and Kang are intertwined. Two sides of the same coin. ♾️🪙

[@SAlcocer12]

Mobius ending was really heartbreaking

[@M0RGAT0RY]

I think Matt is talking about an entirely different story, here. He was right about the way Marvel has been 'treating ' it. The Loki story came to an end, and I think it was a great story with some parts that took me by surprise...had me cheering out loud

[@nicholasgarrick8855]

Fantastic finale for an amazing season a glorious emotional Rollercoaster tom hiddleston deserve a emmy nomination for his phenomenal performance as loki what a actor! and major truly amazing in this one Best MCU Disney plus show yet ,and i hope marvel continues with this quality in the future👏🏽👏🏽💚💚.

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

Put it like this, when the series first announced I thought they were reaching. I thought Loki had his arc and I wondered what could they possibly do with this character. I was so wrong, and from the first episode of season 1 I knew this would be different from anything the MCU produced. I am an aspiring writer and I used this series as both education and entertainment. How they managed to make a variant of a villain become one of the strongest heroes the MCU has is a masterpiece. The only other character that has had such a redemption arc is Anakin Skywalker under Dave Filoni’s guidance. Simply amazing and a perfect close to Tom Hiddleston’s performance. I would love a Loki season 3 but I don’t want them to water down this story arc, I’m perfectly okay with cameos of him and the TVA crew in other projects, we will rejoice when we spot them. The show runners should be in charge of Thor 5, in my opinion.

[@tlouiseallen9302]

Agreed 🙏🏼

[@OhFloof]

well said

[@BattleF08]

Eh, it honestly feels like Matt projected his own wishes on it, and then became a hater when it wasn't what he wanted to read into it. I don't think that that's the best approach to reviewing something.

[@ZyliceLiddell]

*Tom Hiddleston’s Dedication and Passion to Marvel and Loki* - He read all the comics as he was growing up. - He watched the movies since the beginning and loved them. - He held multi-day long ‘Loki’ & ‘Marvel’ lectures for the entire cast and crew even going to Owen’s house several days in a row to help him prepare for his role as ‘Mobius.’ - He learnt Norwegian and sang in it as well as study Norse lore to prepare for his role in the first Thor movie. - He asked the composer, Natalie Holt to put certain music tracks into particular scenes. - He was made ‘special executive producer’ since he has such passion and knowledge of Marvel!

[@tlouiseallen9302]

Matt pointed out some things that left me wanting, for sure, but overall 🤔 the arc Loki takes is wonderful. If it ends here …it was worth the ride. Tom Hiddleston deserves an Emmy.

[@windy-u9g]

when i finished loki, what went through my mind was that “wow, how did loki go from some evil guy who wants to rule the world to someone like this?” loki went through countless sacrifices in this show and it developed his character so much. tbh idek how thor is gonna catch up with this guy.

[@andrewlaiz7648]

What? Not perfect? The reason marvel is hurting is because of reviews expecting perfection. Loki season 2 was as close to perfect as anything done in marvel storytelling

[@Marvelousgamer7697]

Loki is one of my favorite MCU projects ever, full stop. Up there with Iorn Man and Winter Soldier.

[@LukeNeverShaves]

I cant tell if Matt even paid attention to any of the season.

[@latexgeneration]

I think the show as a whole is my favorite Marvel story so far. While it definitely needs the Avengers and attached movies to fully appreciate how significant the character arc is, the show is so effective in bringing him to his “Glorious Purpose”.

[@DanielSantallaa]

One thing that confused me is why they set up Miss Minutes as being evil and wanting to have a real body. That didn't lead up to anything

[@giantpunda2911]

At least Matt Singer is self aware. I'll give him kudos for that. Not so much his opinions though but for his self awareness, sure.

[@crimsontc5930]

Not sure what Matt was watching but the story was a flow of development and progression. The juxtaposition of the story is due to time, reality and parallel it isn't a jumble but a coherent build for the characters/storyline. The finally was brilliant and tied Loki into his glorious purpose.

[@NicoleTaylorSoprano]

I loved Loki season 1 and 2. I would have liked to see more episodes showing Sylvie and Loki's relationship, Mobius and Renslayer's relationship, Loki's relationship to B-15, Victor Timely and O.B's relationship and authorship of the 2nd edition of the TVA manual, and I wonder if Loki pops up in time to help people make choices like the king in the book the Alchemist.

[@lukeydukey20]

Absolutely loved the Loki show. Both seasons were great. The characters and their chemistry with each other was amazing. And the finale was perfect. Owen Wilson is a great addition to the MCU.

[@samturner6061]

It did save Marvel for me. I have exciting unanswered questions about what's coming next, again. I'm excited about what's coming next. That's where, mentally, they want us to be as fans of this stuff. Mission success.

[@NomadJoe0323]

Not sure what Matt means. Isn’t that what these Disney plus shows are supposed to be? They’re supposed to fill in the blanks and of course, get us to subscribe.

[@adriandenton6637]

? Not entertain and make us think? Or $$$$$$$$$$? How fkn sad.

[@smoovenorris]

8:03 they didn’t write themselves into a corner, the main actor was literally caught in legal action, how the hell is that them backing themselves up into a corner? This literally happened two years after the character was introduced, and how did the first season feel like it’s own thing? It directly takes place after endgame and sets up the villain of the entire next phases 😭 Dawg tryna be a contrarian so bad 💀

[@joelhenry5489]

I love this channel, but you really do have a tendency to turn every story into a bunch of plot threads leading to some bigger interconnected story. You did it with Andor when clearly the show was just about telling a great story. And so is Loki. At its heart, this show is a character study and everything else is secondary.

[@mayabarnes5973]

Couldn’t agree more. Everything isn’t that deep. Just let it be a great show on its own.

[@purple12334]

Absolutely!

[@ZyliceLiddell]

17:43 They *FINALLY* showed the character some respect by not shoving Kang further down our throats or showing ’Deadpool’ at the end! They actually made the ending of the show about *LOKI!* 😱

[@seanj3667]

I think it was fantastic. I don't think there is more to tell about Loki, but I want to know what happens to the rest of his friends.

[@FIFODavid]

I caught the scene of Loki and Black Widow scene in the Avengers movie, on cable, the other day. And it brought me so joy knowing that that Loki is the Loki in this show, not the redeemed Ragnarok Loki. It's easy to forget that. That's something I never forgot about throughout 2 seasons.

[@Myles-YT]

Imagine if Loki and Moon Knight were released in theaters instead of The Marvels and The Eternals.

[@pt2k645]

You’re going to watch hours of television theatrically in one sitting?

[@Myles-YT]

@@pt2k645 basically the MCU already. 33 movies is basically 100 TV show episodes.

[@pt2k645]

@@Myles-YT Who’s watching 33 movies in one sitting?

[@Myles-YT]

@@pt2k645 Think. Think. Release more than one movie per season. Make more money off the sequels.

[@pt2k645]

@@Myles-YT But the Marvel TV shows are basically 4.5 hour movies cut into 6 pieces. If you cut either season of Loki or Moon Knight into a 2.5 hour feature, it’s going to loose a lot, and it’s not like you could make Loki 4 movies and Moon Knight 2, because the narrative for each series is one cohesive piece that can barely survive getting cut into episodes on D+ much less movies with like years between the sections. I get what you’re saying: Loki and Moon Knight were good and you like them more than recent MCU cinematic offerings. But if Loki and Moon Knight were cinematic offerings, they wouldn’t be as good. Conversely, for example, if The Eternals had been a series, it might have had more time to breath and would have been a more cohesive narrative. Comic books are episodic. Personally, I’d rather one or two medium to long form series a year on Disney+ than 2 or 3 movies a year. The series format is just more conducive to the storytelling.

[@annamuller4730]

i am not that deep into marvel and not into reading comics. i did not liked loki as a character before seeing both seasons. but i am so happy that i did, because now i love this character and both seasons where sooo great.

[@SneaksBL]

Man, I don’t know what they’re talking about, I think the second season was absolutely fantastic, it told a complete story, didn’t rely on too much outside of the main focus, which was Loki. Was very satisfying. This was the first time in a long time, where I actually cared about every single character in the show, and would love to see them all again.

[@ScreenCrush]

What did you think of the finale?

[@keni95851]

Loki is the best thing Marvel has ever done

[@Toker33488]

Great show, finale could have counted for more.

[@Last-Scar-5675]

Fantastic it’s an absolute masterpiece the entire show is

[@LeoChaseTheMythMaster]

Loki is amazing. The finale was handled basically perfectly. Also, seeing Kate Bishop's silhouette in the Marvels made me starts hyperventilating. Can't wait to see your Young Avengers predictions!

[@NomadJoe0323]

Best Disney+ marvel show

[@zachyouell6581]

*Mobius voice* “Look out Matt, Colton’s comin’ for your job”

[@feedmatt]

Why do people keep saying that season 2 isn’t as good as season 1? I feel like season 2 is far better than season 1

[@enriquegolden9239]

Bro I’m the glasses was just yapping. Mobious and Loki were devastated when Loki made the choice that he made. They became best friends even brothers if you will. Saying that they didn’t focus on the connections is crazy.

[@courtney-ray]

I agree that there were things that were dead ends: Ravonna didn’t even get any lines in the finale. It seemed like we were dropped into the middle of Brad’s story. There was that line where Dox says “the warnings were true” yet we never heard what that was referencing. So yeah, lots of things that never panned out. Nevertheless S2 was still much better than S1. I vehemently disagree with those saying S1 told a better story. No way.

[@healingmikey]

I wish Loki season 2 talked about the relationship between Loki and Sophie. They loved each other and had a “breakup” at the end of season 1. But then their relationship is never mentioned again in season 2. Adding more scenes regarding their relationship would’ve made Loki’s goodbye a lot more epic and emotional.

[@hildy7336]

I wish they would have made an episode about how the TVA was built and why it’s themed from the 1960-1970 era . It would be cool together et a TVA origins

[@sophiawilson8696]

I have feeling TVA is way older than that! It change over Billions years. What was it before?

[@Cvmpbell]

What does Matt like within the mcu 😂😂 this was the best thing we’ve had in a WHILE

[@YeOlGamer]

Loki is so much better than Wanda.

[@adriandenton6637]

Wanda dropped the ball in the final....and the main character got pretty girl entitlement.

[@snackbarqueen]

Loki is BY FAR the BEST MCU show out there 😊 It took 14 years but he finally grew into the God/King he was always meant to be, I truly hope we get to see him meet up with his friends again, he no longer deserves to be alone ! Watching him ascend to his throne was so emotional 😭 and all I kept thinking was how proud Thor, Odin and his momma would be of him ❤ GREAT SHOW 🥰 Props to the AMAZING actors and writers of Loki !!!

[@brantkim]

Matt is way off on this. The best Marvel material is when they don't focus on how interconnected everything is, the more of a standalone movie or show it can be the better. Loki as a series could have been outside of the MCU or Marvel as a whole and still have been a great show. Easter eggs are supposed to be fun especially for the super fans, not a requirement to know what the heck is going on at any given time in a movie or tv show.

[@PWDMaximum]

Poetic. A man who wanted to take freedom makes the ultimate sacrifice to give everybody freedom.

[@icarusandtherabbit]

I had to watch Heavy Spoilers and Screen Crush to work out what happened at the end of Loki. Up until then I was enjoying the show. I’ll have to watch the final one more time now I kind of got what happened.

[@sophiawilson8696]

Watch new rockstars on what happen it was cut and alter to fit in their format.

[@bizzybrown8372]

Toms comedic timing especially in the last episode BANGED . I’m glad he got to executive produce his semi swan song and I’m glad he put his all into becoming this character and working with other creatives to produce something so beautiful and sweet and at times chaotic but always in order . Both instances serving the other . But man was that brilliant .: the music .. the call backs to legendary time travel films and shows . It was brilliantly put together . I notice in some of these shows when they land the finale it’s a bit more cinematic not just in production quality but the mechanics, and writing .

[@DebbieEvers]

Really liked the Loki show. Waited for it every week. I loved the finally! Loki finally learned to love! I really like your channel, also. Thank you.

[@wyw876]

The reason this second season comes off as mid is because didn't deliver on the promises made in the first half of its run, back when it was written like a movie. Why else would the Brad and Doc threads have a beginning and middle, but no payoff during the ending? Because they already chopped up the project into a mini-series, and most likely, the setup scenes shot. In short, this second season couldn't fully deliver on the Promise in the Premise, and so was defeated by the Muddle in its Middle.

[@seekfind9531]

Season two was great. Loki has taken a great burden upon himself, but because of his ability to project himself even in multiple projections, he does not have to be alone. I would imagine that he now has the ability to project himself into any timeline that he wants whenever he wants. If this is the case, then he is the most un-alone person in that multi-verse.

[@outsiderking20]

Matt is the kind of friend that you don't wanna take to a restaurant because he's always gonna complain about something

[@cmorris9494]

Why doesn't this seafood place have a vegan option.

[@PeterParker-wj3cr]

The Loki series is a great show in terms of exploring Loki's psychology. But my only complaint is they made Loki almost feel human. I know its a show that doesn't have the same budget as a movie would have. But they hardly showed what Loki's powers are. To be honest they hardly show Loki's powers in the movies as well. He possesses an innate aptitude for magic and sorcery. In the movie they always make him grab his 2 knives. Not cool. But that is my only complaint. Overall a well written show!!!

[@frankbuell1307]

Colton fixing his headphones gets me Everytime lmao

[@kris2fur64]

I dont know about the gripes. I absolutely loved this season and this series for that matter. The ending was bittersweet because of the emotions thus made it perfect

[@HeruKane]

So some people talk about Secret Wars and Kang Dynasty as soft reboots but honestly we seem to already have that in the Loki ending. Before there was a Sacred Timeline and now there is a Sacred Tree of Life. Once there was only the Sacred Timeline version of say the Avengers movie, but now there can be seventy-eight different events of the Avengers movie, and its all happening somewhere. Meaning if they want to do a new Iron Man movie they can literally have it be anywhere they want, if they choose to do that. (not sure rebooting Iron Man, for example, is necessary, but with the whole multiverse element of it being a Tree its totally possible.) Also I have been hearing people go 'the Sacred Tree is what HWR wanted' and I don't see it, cause the Sacred Timeline was its own reality and that got destroyed and rebooted so he no longer has any say or authority or power. I also hear people saying 'oh Loki will loose in Avengers whatever and HWR/Doctor Doom will take over' and its like, 'but wasn't the point of all this to allow there to be free will and multiple projects and not some sort of failure state'. Anyway, all in all to me Loki was amazing and the end of the show was fantastic. Loki as the new God of Stories in charge of the Sacred Tree of Life is just marvelous.

[@jeremyhugoenrico]

Imho, it might be helpful fot Matt to write down the explanations of his takes before talking about it in this discussion format. I believe he has some valid points, but it comes across nitpicky whereas maybe if it were structured more succinctly and clearly (like in his writing), it might be easier to follow...

[@JohwnE]

I actually like that they connected the series to the larger Marvel multiverse in a vague way. Don't answering the question "how does it connect?" while keeping emphasis on the characters could be a very good thing down the line.

[@Zach_Lowry]

Matt would be a great English teacher. He hates and critiques any writing that’s not his own

[@jamiegodfather]

When Mobius is talking to Sylvie at the end he should’ve been standing on shore watching himself and his boys riding a jet ski