New Star Wars Lightsaber - Awesome or Useless? - MOVIE FIGHTS!

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Alison Haislip (Attack of the Show), Dan Murrell (Director & Editor of Screen Junkies) and Kassem G ( / kassemg ) debate with host Andy Signore (Creator of "Honest Trailers") over the following Movie Fights for the week of 11/30/14:
1:07:45 PICK YOUR FIGHT
2:54 FIGHT 1: Best moment of the Star Wars Episode 7 teaser?
10:55 FIGHT 2: New Star Wars lightsaber: like or dislike?
15:45 FIGHT 3: Does the Terminator: Genisys trailer excite us?
23:32 FIGHT 4: Most unnecessary sequel of all time?
31:15 FIGHT 5: Best James Bond?
39:50 FIGHT 6: Greatest movie death scene?
44:26 FIGHT 7: Best actor to join a superhero franchise?
55:48 FIGHT 8: Which property should Marvel Studios get back?
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[@KassemG]

Everything I know about Star Wars I learned from Space Balls.

[@MikeeYowee]

On a scale from 1-10, how high are you?

[@igot2k]

I love you

[@Buckpwns]

I love that one movie more then 4 out of the 6 star wars ones

[@blargfish]

Then why were u there u just looked foolish and pissed me off who loves star wars

[@esdev92]

Make more videos, you fuck.

[@ther3aper561]

Consider, for example, the difference between Obi-Wan Kenobi's blue, single-bladed lightsaber as seen in A New Hope (which conveys that he is a gentleman knight from a more elegant time) and Darth Maul's red double-bladed lightsaber from The Phantom Menace (which is the weapon of a ferocious and incredibly agile animal who will stop at nothing to draw blood). Neither of these weapons is practical in any real sense of the word, because a laser sword that can effortlessly cut through anything can never be practical: you'd dismember yourself the first time you accidentally tapped yourself with it. But when Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Maul fight at the end of The Phantom Menace, it is the fact that they are fighting with these swords in particular that tells us everything we need to know about what is actually at stake: the end of a more civilized and enlightened time, and the beginning of an age of bloodshed, cruelty, and strife. So when judging the new lightsaber in The Force Awakens trailer, the first thing we should be judging it by is what it tells us about its owner. Which is a lot.

[@ther3aper561]

In the Star Wars movies there are only ever two Sith Lords: a master and an apprentice. So when Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader die at the end of Return of the Jedi, that's it. The Sith are extinct. Yet here's maybe Adam Driver, wielding a Sith lightsaber, around 30 years after the end of the Sith Order. Where did he get it?

[@ther3aper561]

Did he find it? It's possible, but every clue in the trailer suggests that he made it. Notice how the lightsaber sputters, crackles, and flickers as the character turns it on. As io9 notes, that's a sign of shoddy workmanship. But don't just look at it, listen to it. The sound of a lightsaber turning on is always smooth around the edges, but this lightsaber sounds dirty, and full of static. These are all design choices, consciously made to tell us, the viewers, something about what we're seeing.

[@ther3aper561]

Listen to the trailer's narration. "There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The dark side." Combined with everything else, that says everything you need to know: The Force Awakens is about the rebirth of the Sith after their destruction. The character in the trailer is formative to that. And without a master to guide him, he's rebuilding the Sith order from scratch, which includes figuring out how to create a lightsaber for himself, warts and all. So if the anonymous villain created this lightsaber himself, why did he design it with a crossguard at all? Simple: he knows he's vulnerable to getting his hands cut off, because he's not skilled. He has no training. If a regular lightsaber is a katana, this is a claymore: a brutal and unsophisticated weapon favored by a vicious, untrained fighter who is relying upon brute strength to chop his opponents to pieces.

[@ther3aper561]

The crossguard says so much about the character wielding it. After all of the silly lightsaber ballet of the prequels, it opens up a whole new dynamic, and immediately differentiates the character in the trailer from every Star Wars baddie who has come before him. This isn't the lightsaber of a trained warrior in his prime, like in the prequels, or a retired Jedi who hasn't fought in 30 years, like in Episodes IV through VI. This is the lightsaber of a bloodthirsty young berserker.

[@ther3aper561]

Which is why, from a cinematic perspective, the lightsaber crossguard we're seeing in The Force Awakens trailer is such incredible design. It's not just visually arresting. It's efficient. We know what we're seeing immediately, no explanation needed. And not only that, it illuminates a character's personality, and fighting style with just the flip of a switch. It helps tell a story. And when it comes to the language of cinema, that's the only design problem worth solving.

[@Mads97415]

Every time I hear them talk about how they wish that they could see spiderman with the avengers on these old movie fights I just want to tell them, "Just wait we are actually going to get Spiderman in Civil War!!!!"

[@michaelpittman8045]

The best movie death of all time is Boromir in Lord of the Rings. It was great in the books, and it was great on screen. Loved it!

[@TheMastreano]

+MIchael Pittman that would've been my choice...also No Heath Ledger?!

[@anamorgana.]

"My brother. My captain. My king." :')

[@MsStormcrow]

I agree one of the best movie deaths ever portrayed on film.

[@salvador155]

First fight guys: Storm troopers from the OT weren't clones. Emperor opened up multiple academies. Troopers were actual people. Not all clones.

[@benpriest1418]

I thought that too, but Dan was so adamant that it was otherwise!

[@MrRolle42]

Is this in any of the movies or the animated series? If not, it doesn't even matter and your argument is invalid, maybe not for all hardcore fans but yeah

[@salvador155]

Nin13666 Well hed be a little late to the party but thanks.

[@salvador155]

MrRolle42 Disney erased all of the EU after Return of the Jedi. Everything beforehand at the moment still exists. Plus dont you remember Luke bitching how he was able to go to the academy like all his friends, Wedge and Biggs?

[@commandercorner5575]

Yeah, where was the fact checking on that one?

[@kxmode]

FIGHT 7: Best actor to join a superhero franchise? Hands down. Heath Ledger. When they announced he would play The Joker, everyone was like "you mean the gay guy from that Brokeback Mountain movie?! Really?" But then when everyone saw The Dark Knight his performance BLEW EVERYONE away. And unlike any other actor Health actually won an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for that role; a first for a superhero film.

[@FJAR1635]

Although you're absolutely right, the debate was about an actor joining a franchise as in being in more than one movie. Now, I understand that's not fair since Ledger died, but he was only in one film as opposed to the many the debated actors were in.

[@kxmode]

You're right. My apologies.

[@cuzthechicksdigit]

I said the exact same thing, I can't believe they didn't even mention him. The Oscars have historically pushed superhero movies and roles away but Heath Ledger's performance was simply so good that even the Oscars had to give him his due. This is the only superhero movie I know of that has the villain and the VILLAIN ALONE on the cover (at least on the Blu-Ray copy he is). If you ask me, this is just as much a movie about the Joker as it is a movie about Batman because let's face it, the Joker is the main character. The Dark Knight is a movie about the Joker's schemes, Joker's love for chaos, his hypocrisy about "schemers", Joker's unpredictability, his pure love for madness and how "all it needs is a little push". Heath Ledger captured everything we love about the Joker and pulled off what I consider to be one of the greatest performances in the history of film.

[@kxmode]

FJAR1635 Actually if you read the question it's simply asking who is the best actor to JOIN a "superhero franchise" meaning the franchise part of the question means more than one film or a series of existing films... not an actor who starred in more than one superhero film. So I go back to my original choice. Health Ledger is the best actor to join a superhero franchise.

[@samanthabayley320]

When Ledger first won the Oscar for that role I questioned whether his death had helped to contribute to that, after watching that movie again and again I can't deny that he deserved it 100%. People are still talking about that performance years later, how many other Oscar winning performances are still being talked about?

[@armsdragon05]

To all the people hating on the new lightsaber and saying that it would be "really easy to dismember yourself with it," just sit back and think about that for a second. You're probably thinking of how he'd cut off his arm or head after the first twirl of the blade, but you're wrong. The lightsaber from the trailer seems like it's modeled after a greatsword, and when was the last time you saw someone FUCKING TWIRL A GREATSWORD the way they twirl a one handed lightsaber?! Exactly! They don't! Swords that big are used for power; you bring it up, and then down, really fast. Or side to side. Point is, you'd have to be a FUCKING IDIOT to dismember yourself with something so simple, and I doubt that a trained sith would be. Especially since he's probably trained with a vibrosword of the same design at one point or another, to get the feel of what his lightsaber would be like.

[@max04ism]

And also since the only people who use lightsabers are force sensitives because they use the force, I think, to make sure they don't hurt themselves.

[@armsdragon05]

Max Izaac that is also true

[@hrishitelcontar]

Well, the problem is, with a usual greatsword, what makes it work is the weight, how heavier it is than single-handed longswords. With a lighsaber, i'm not sure how much that would really make a difference. I don't mind the hilt, just the idea of a greatsword lightsaber. I mean you might get better reach, but then you would get much less flexibility in tight spaces than a regular one.

[@armsdragon05]

Hrishi Telcontar I'll hand it to you; that's probably the best argument I've heard against this new lightsaber so far. To counter it, I'll probably say that instead of the weight, this lightsaber would probably be used by beings with a larger amount of strength to make up for the light weight. 

[@lsevent]

The cross guard wouldn't block any attack that got close to the hilt and there is far more hilt than usual with regard to hand position. The design of it makes it far easier for an opponent to destroy the hilt, rendering it useless. It is an incredibly dumb design.

[@sirgnome]

Best movie death: Boromir in the Fellowship of the Ring.

[@stryyker9]

Also William Wallace Braveheart.

[@MediumRareOpinions]

when they said best movie death, I was sort of hoping Sean Bean would get a mention, i mean he's done so many death scenes he must be a contender for a greatest death

[@MrPrice2U]

I always had to giggle cause I always thought how weird it would be if a fart would cut through the silence.

[@desmondunn4504]

ChaosSandwhich that should be its own questions, Best Sean Bean Death Scene.

[@GunsNStuff100]

***** Zoolander: gasoline fight.

[@blodstainer]

The Storm Troopers aren't clones, The Clone troopers are clones but later on a lot of clones enlisted to join as Storm troopers under the Empire, but they stopped cloning around the time the Republic fell. Clone Troopers were just an idea and it works better than expected, but they went with conventional enlistment after the Empire grew and needed more soldier that were less militaristic.

[@Caedus696]

***** Says the original trilogy where every storm trooper was a different height and had different voices.

[@cjrobinson6654]

If you played star wars battlefront 2 then u would understand the enlistment of people and not clones

[@gentblue]

Nicholas Cannaday Though they weren't as short as 1975 (when they were filming) Mark Hammill. The whole "black stormtrooper" thing was probably a troll for racist flames from the movie producers anyway.

[@Castlecrashing]

I you watched the Prequels you would know all Clone troopers were done in CG

[@EthanStrick]

***** Read a book.

[@BlueBloodPenn]

How the hell is The Wolverine worse than Origins? The Wolverine is a very good movie (apart from having the wrong person in the silver samurai armor) and the fact that it does not tie in to the rest of the series much is only a good thing. It gives you a kickass Wolverine movie, that all it needed to do. Not tieing into something does not make something bad, Guardians of the Galaxy only ties into the Marvel Universe (up to this point in time) through Thanos and the Infinity Gems yet it is still amazing. Having a self contained story that has small tie ins, as long as its good, should allow it to stand on its own. And saving its worse than Origins is just insane.

[@cameronsturgess-taylor3875]

Agreed

[@clancywiggum56]

People these days are more happy with mediocre movies that connect than great movies that don't

[@TheBlackLodger]

Did someone really say that? I agree, The Wolverine is a way better film than Origins.

[@MerlosTheMad]

They're both equally awful. One ruined the silver samurai, even if he wasn't called that, he was the villain he referenced. The other ruined Deadpool.

[@VikB1288]

Kaseem G looks like a cross between Max Landis and Adam Driver.

[@lukehameloth4020]

I feel like a lot of people don't actually realize the use for the "Cross guard" on Kylo Ren's lightsaber, the story behind it is that Kylo Ren is a self taught Sith, technically not even belonging to the Order of the Sith. And being self taught, he didn't have an instructor in building his lightsaber. So the "Cross Guards" aren't even cross guards at all, as a matter of fact they are vents coming out of the lightsaber. And in the argument of the black stormtrooper, theoretically there could have been thousands of them in the ranks of the Empire but we'll never know because they have their helmets on. But my basis on this is that Clone Troopers and Storm Troopers are two entirely different armies, Clones have a very short life span (As they were bred for war there was no use for them to have long lives) and there is no way they could have survived all the way from Revenge of the Sith to The New Hope, so the Empire set up training/recruiting camps all across the galaxy and these are were the Storm Troopers were trained. This is supported by the Disney show Star Wars Rebels where in one of the episodes the main antagonist is under cover in one of these training camps. All though I'm not sure if the show is 100% cannon but it gives at least a little bit of evidence to support my case.

[@mrbossai1]

I have a question. Can you guys go one freaking episode without debating superhero movies. I will donate 2,000 dollars to screen junkies if you do. Think I'm full of it? That's just how confident I am that they wont be able to do it.

[@QLCHerald]

Its the most popular movie genre to date, without hesitation! So sorry... but get used to it, its the only thing people are going to be talking about for the next decade!

[@jokesterr119]

Lol well at least you'll still have that money for next Christmas because they'll never ever stop talking about super hero movies sadly lol. But hey I'll be happy to take it instead, Did you see that Uncharted 4 gameplay and Persona 5 teaser, I want a PS4!!!!!

[@mrbossai1]

QLCHerald At least Sci-fi fights wouldn't be misleading. I don't mean to hate on the show. I dig the energy and enthusiasm. I just think the screen junkies guys are selling themselves short. Every week its the same old stuff. I'm sorry but discussing rather or not a new lightsaber is cool has less to do with a movie discussion than a nerd fanboy discussion. A good movie does not a cool lightsaber make. Also to QLCHerald: don't be such a fascist. There is room to talk about all different kinds of movies on this show, not just one.

[@vinsmoke3305]

Star Wars isn't a super hero movie

[@MobBossBobRoss]

Two things: Superhero movies are big right now and Screen Junkies features a lot of nerd/geek movie content. You know what to expect, so skip over what you don't want to see. Srsly.

[@TheReedBriana]

I had to comment on the best movie death. Now while I agree that the terminator was pretty cool, but the movie death that always gets to me is John Coffey in The Green Mile. The man put to death for a crime he didn't commit, and the officers who execute the order know this and are even debating about letting him go, but John says no because his gifts not only allow him to heal but he can feel other's pain... then oh my god when they finally get him in the chair I'm balling! Especially when he asks not to be left in the dark by then I can't even see the screen anymore. It's just heart wrenching

[@L4nd0C4lr1s14n]

That's a death I forgot when I said Boromir from LoTR. I stand by my choice but that one hits you deep for sure

[@TheReedBriana]

Boromir definitely hits me in my Nerd spot.... oooh it hurts! Oooh it hurts *Cries* he died too soon. Damn you Sean Bean for being soooo killable!

[@jakhawkins]

I would have followed you, my brother... My captain... My king.

[@TheReedBriana]

It's actually "and My King"... but Kudos for trying."

[@LgiovanniF]

Is it and my king???

[@snuffmeister6720]

after seeing it in action,its definetly not useless

[@keybladelovers]

Unless your a jedi with no training at all in the force and your dad is Luke Skywalker

[@danshmitka5796]

A lot of people get this wrong, 90% of the stormtroopers are now just regular humans who are recruited because the emperor saw a big flaw with clones, easily corruptible by the enemy, perfect example is the unofficial komino rebellion where some of them cloned anti-empire clones but were easily crushed, some are still stormtroopers but a lot have died between 3 and 4 and even more so in episode 4 when the death star blew up

[@peterthesneakybastar]

Uhh did Captain America 2 have an effect on the avengers? Did The Dark have an effect on the Justice League? Why the hell would Wolverine have to include something to do with X Men? Wolverine was originally a solo hero in the comics just like Batman was.

[@universetraveler5826]

That bitch was an idiot

[@peterthesneakybastar]

You if those examples did you know what I fuckin mean. When you are going to argue please pay attention to my claim rather than pointing out holes in my choice of words and only look at what is intentional

[@CptRexFilms987654321]

STORMTROOPERS ARE NOT CLONES!!! After the events of Order 66, the Kamanoains (long-necked Cloners from AOTC) created a rebel clone army to fight the Empire. The 501st unit was sent to defeat them and destroy the remaining Jango Fett DNA so they could never clone again. The empire disbanded clones and relied on recruitment after that. This is why there is a significant difference in skill between the Clones and Stormtroopers! (Explained in the Star Wars Battlefront 2 campaign)

[@godseaterproductions31]

now i'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you but i just wanna ask a question. is battlefront cannon?

[@jadenparker6704]

+GodsEaterProductions I don't know if Battlefront is cannon, but there is many references in the movies that Stormtroopers are recruited

[@TallMist]

GodsEaterProductions No. All that is canon anymore are the live action films, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and Star Wars: Rebels, as well as any EU released after then.

[@sudokuboy9]

This comment needs more upvotes so people know the truth. (And it is not just a Battlefront easter egg, it is a universally accepted truth in the star wars universe. Stormtroopers are recruited

[@daniel-son428]

Thank god finally someone else knows the real history behind this

[@SMgrimbldoo]

"We need to be careful about getting too fancy with light sabers" Someone hasn't seen any of the extended universe.

[@ojoe100]

*clears throat* FUCKING LIGHT WHIPS.

[@axil5566]

Hey guys love the debates keep up the good work, quick question, does someone control the camera angles manually throughout the debate or is it all done afterwards.??

[@ourlasthero51]

Saying that X-Men Origins: Wolverine is better than The Wolverine just sounds crazy, she also blamed Days of Future Past's continuity errors on The Wolverine, which is just wrong. How can you can blame the previous movie on the mistakes a sequel makes?

[@Myreverlation]

It Is Better Movie

[@ourlasthero51]

Myreverlation X-Men Origins? I thought The Wolverine was much much better.

[@Myreverlation]

Our last hero Why? It Was A Lower Budget Movie And The Story Wasnt Good... I Think People Find A Movie To Hate And Run With It Alot Of The X-men Movies Werent As Good As The Last 2 But They Get Hype ... Wolverine Was Real Good The 2nd One It Was Ok But Not That Good

[@lukethebaron5408]

Guys it's an opinion

[@mattparsons2045]

Myreverlation just out of curiosity why did you capitolise the first letter of every word

[@stevie_ily]

why do so few star wars fans realize that half of the Stormtroopers are recruited and not clones?

[@TheCoolestBaka]

ALL of them are recruits by the time of the original trilogy.

[@stevie_ily]

really, all? I would think that they had to have less cloning because of stretched dna. but in force unleashed you see the massive factory in kamino.

[@Fudo94]

stevenisminecraft In force unleashed, yes. Is that even cannon? The kaminoans refused to create more clones after Order 66, if I remember correctly.

[@TheCoolestBaka]

Fudo94 Exactly, The Force Unleashed is not canon. It has been confirmed a couple of times on Star Wars.com that all the clones are dead. In Star Wars Rebels, there is an episode where we see young boys being trained up as Stormtroopers.

[@stevie_ily]

shame, as far as story, I would have loved force unleashed to have been canon

[@wduncanator]

I hate it when people complain about Jack's death in Titanic, the door was not buoyant enough to hold up the two of them and its been proven by mythbusters. Just because the door is big enough to hold two people doesn't mean it will still float with two people.

[@bc42006]

The greatest movie death is the most surprising movie death ever in cinematic history, which is Samuel L. Jackson in Deep Blue Sea. You see his name on the bill and assume he will be a driving force until the end, and he makes it about 20 minutes before being snatched and taken into the sea to be ripped apart. It is iconic, and it was in a kitschy movie

[@johngoode3509]

For the people that don't like the black storm-troopers... first of all, racist much? Also by the time of episode 4, not all storm-troopers were clones. According to my sources, the empire began recruiting citizens to join the ranks of the clones. After 3 movies of troopers being killed including 2 death stars full of troops, I doubt there are many original clones left

[@johngoode3509]

Want cannon proof. Try Battlefront 2 campaign

[@KadenWarrior]

In SW 4, none of the stormtrooper seems suprised when they see Luke (while disguised as Stormtrooper) being more little than others Stormtroopers, implying they are not all the same size, implying they are not all clones...

[@johngoode3509]

Good point, also the officers aren't clone either,

[@jeditimelords]

Technically battlefront 2 isn't canon anymore but I do agree with you it is completely possible to be a black storm trooper and who even says he is a storm trooper maybe some guy in a storm trooper outfit remember Star Wars episode 4

[@peterwm234]

Jango and bobba fett where both black so I don't get why people care. All original troopers are black, go watch episode 2 its very obvious.

[@isultansultangaliev5852]

I don't want to be an asshole, but invite people who can actually debate their points. The guy that's not a big fan of star wars looked pretty uninterested in the whole thing. While the girl couldn't really compose a proper argument.

[@geoffreygershon]

Marc Ritz Those two were beyond awful....they didn't even seem to want to be there!

[@gferrer481]

yeah i thought so too, they weren't awful they just weren't interesting or funny enough to be on this show, plus that guy was booorrrriiiiingggg

[@IGNXIII]

So when has logic or practicality factored into the superhuman fighting style of Force wielders? You ever notice they're the ONLY ones who wield those weapons? Because their training and Force abilities give them the grace and agility to wield them properly. You seriously think a guy *who can deflect a laser bolt out of midair* is going to hurt himself swinging his sword? Diehard fans are ridiculously stupid, and the fact we even have people debating this shows that they bypass the established rules of whatever universe they're mad about just to find something to be mad about *when all you need to do is step back and consider that the argument is already resolved*. There are light-whips and saber staffs and dual-bladed lightsabers, and you are seriously going to bitch about a fucking crossguard? That's just petty.

[@vicioushero]

Agreed

[@fuckenps3]

Good point.

[@FrigidFriar]

Sure, I don't think he's going to actually hurt himself swinging it, BUT - their presence on the side of his sword means he's going to have less freedom of movement. In avoiding hurting himself - however easily he can manage that with the Force and his training - he's going to have to keep those cross-guards away from himself, and as such has a reduced angle of freedom to move his blade, disadvantaging himself against his opponents. Arguably this is in exchange for the ability to catch a sliding enemy blade, but then... The actual blade emitters and shrouds for these cross-guard sabre pieces are not flush with the handle, so the thing a sliding enemy blade is going to hit is... The metal emitter of that crossguard. Unless they're going to make an excuse and claim it's made out of Mandalorian Iron, then any enemy blade is going to chop off those cross-guards uselessly anyway - and if they ARE made out of mandalorian iron, then... Why the hell do you even NEED lightsabre blade there, when you could just have a small mando iron cross-guard? If you have the sabre-resistant piece there already, those lightsabre cross-guard pieces are completely superfluous and only function to limit the angle in which the user can safely move their sabre in proximity to their own body, for no added benefit.

[@vicioushero]

Theta_Sigma The saber blade doesn't start at the end of the hilt, but at the crystal inside. So yes if it's not Mandolorian Iron the it would cut into the hilt but would still be stopped by the saber blade housed inside.

[@FrigidFriar]

vicioushero Look at the actual length of the hilt. Given that the crystal for the main blade must be in the centre of the handle, the cross-blades clearly do not reach all the way to the centre inside as their emitters and focusing components must take up space either side of the main hilt components. Any blade sliding down the lightsabre would hit the most internal part, slashing straight through the cross-guard's own crystal. And even if this wasn't the case, it still doubly highlights my point: it'd still be more effective simply to have a small crossguard made entirely of Mandalorian Iron, which doesn't have the liability described above, takes up less space and doesn't force the user to reduce their range of safe movements with their own blade.

[@geezim1]

this is just a great conversation! enjoyed it thanks.

[@TheBlond49]

Next movie fight: Who is the Best music movie composer? For example: Hans Zimmer, James Horner, Alan Silvestri, Steve Jablonski, Howard Shore, John Powell, Danny Elfman, Michael Giaccino, etc.

[@slimdoggydoo6323]

John Williams and Danny Elfman should be there too.

[@TheBlond49]

Slimdoggy Doo Danny Elfman is here

[@caridadchang7895]

Max Mustermann probably, John Williams is just too iconic on his own for people to fight over No1. Another good choice would be Alan Menken and Randy Newman

[@domi8619]

Ennio Morricone

[@TheBlond49]

Max Mustermann OK, John Williams at last place. Really he is not that great.

[@tmack4697]

Actually, the Storm Troopers are not clones. Remember when they said that clones age quickly? So at this point, the clones are basically either too old to fight, or they died of old age. The Storm troopers, if you watch Star Wars Rebels, are volunteers who enlist into the army. (Like the system today)

Yeah!! This guys don`t know anything...

[@natanfk2]

But why are they weak minded, then, if they are normal volunteers?

[@tmack4697]

Because it was convienient to the story-line :)

[@Riggzon]

Someone with some sense around here :D

[@GamerWho]

natanfk2 can't all be 501st.

[@kevinlaws5195]

Love this! Just watched all of these in the span of three days. I'd just like to know, who is the most over-powered being in comic book history? Supes, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet, Doomsday. I'd just love to hear your opinions and arguments. Keep it up!

[@jramjee100]

Any chance you guys could get Andre (Black Nerd) to participate in one of these? He's hilarious & knowledgeable too.

[@xenon333]

One can only dream that the Sith in the trailer was Darth Revan.

[@xenon333]

***** that's why a call it a dream. A beautiful dream.

[@HerobrineCraftMC]

No way. You can't just copy a guy from a video game.

[@xenon333]

ChaseMe2TheSky they already ruined him as much as they could. No the only way is up.

[@mokpow]

Revan sr. sr. jr. sr. jr. II of Korriban and an asteroid.

[@afeather1]

Revan is greatest sith

[@DaylightDigital]

Debate: Can Marvel possibly fail? If so, what would the fallout look like?

[@kayealexv.g.]

Think Judgement Day only with comic book fans instead of terminators.

[@DaylightDigital]

Shazam Gibbs-Velez Which film do you think will burst the inexplicably-successful Marvel bubble?

[@kayealexv.g.]

If we are talking Disney Marvel right now . . . Ant Man will start the trend, Cap 3 will fall flat a bit and leave people feeling weary of the genre ( kind of like the hate for Iron Man 3). The movies will start feeling to much either like they aren't connected as well (Iron Man 3 to Avengers 2) or like they are sequelbait (Iron Man 2 to Avengers 1).

[@The7wc]

DaylightDigital As much as it pains me to say it, I don't think Ant-Man is gonna be very good. Skepticism started as soon as Edgar Wright left the project. The director, Peyton Reed, has done nothing but comedies, and they aren't nearly as good as Wright's. Rudd and Douglass are good, but they can't do much with bad writing and direction. Ant-Man was never going to be amazing, especially not this late in the game, but I'm thinking it's not gonna be very good. Same with Dr. Strange; Cumberbatch is a capable actor, but the director is known for horror, and the THREE credited writers have unimpressive resumes. Civil War, Black Panther, etc, all look safe for now though.

[@zamarokxl]

They have done that before on the Captain America vs. Iron Man movie fight episode. The question was when will Marvel fail and basically had the same premise as your question.

[@_thorkon]

I think that the reason that he lightsaber is jagged is because it's using an Unstable Crystal. In Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, there are multiple types of crystal (blue, purple, red, green, yellow, gold, and even BLACK) and all of them (apart from the black) come in three variations: Normal, Compressed, and UNSTABLE. Normal is self-explanatory, compressed are just more powerful, and unstable are the most powerful, but, as the name suggests, are unstable, and therefore, the most dangerous.

[@Valknut-pd1wf]

I don't think it was due to the crystal but I like the way you think. I believe that the lightsaber is like that because it is an old lightsaber meaning that both old Jedi and Sith would use it

[@_thorkon]

That could be it.

[@bryceevans3924]

The best moment of the Star Wars trailer was during the light saber ignition. It showed more than two red light sabers. This means that Darth Bane's law of one master and one apprentice was broken.

[@EUSA1776]

Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight was the best actor ever put in a franchise . He wasn't in multiple movies because of his untimely death, he didn't play himself like Robert Downey Jr. And Hugh Jackman's great as The Wolverene, but Heath became the Joker . He was the most talented actor who was ever in a early (dark) superhero movie. That's why we call the Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy "The Dark Knight" trilogy .

[@ctsteelers97]

They should get Jeremy Jahns for an episode

[@ErikBrumm]

He would win everytime

[@lewisbrown03]

Best actor to join a superhero franchise - heath ledger. The movie is known more for the joker. He made the movie so much better than it is. He was the first actor to be nominated and win an oscar for a comic book role. IMDB - batman begins - 8.3 the dark knight - 9.0 the dark knight rises - 8.5 iron man - 7.3 the wolverine - 6.7 rotten tomatoes - batman begins - 7.7 the dark knight - 8.6 the dark knight rises - 8.0 iron man - 7.7 the wolverine - 6.3 This proves that no one was expecting anything from batman begins which they didn't need to but when the dark knight came out and heath ledger improved the status of the dark knight trilogy. Heath ledger improved it so much that when everyone went to see the dark knight rises they were expecting a good movie but it was slightly like batman begins. So this improves that Heath ledger improved the dark knight franchise.

[@thecompass80]

By the way, something for the next one: I was rewatching Back to the Future II the other day and I thought the end of that movie's just amazing. Like they're setting it almost from the beginning, then you're in the middle of an action sequence, everything goes ok and then the lightning, Marty thinks he's lost Doc forever, the Western Union guy that looks like a Gestapo agent, that tension, then a perfect connection to the first one... I think they really gave it a perfect ending although it doesn't really end anything and it's more like a cliffhanger, but still to me it's one of the best moments of the trilogy. So my question would be "What's the best movie ending of all time?".

[@cobb541]

The Force Awakens in my Batpants. Do you wanna know why ?

[@rubenkramer2208]

because you're batman?

[@NomastiAfricanWarlord]

***** More like BAT grammar! I'll leave now..

[@GoostavaRS]

Let me guess...cuz you're BATMAN?

[@TheMordecai13]

Darude-Sandstorm?

[@XXX360NOSCOPERXXX]

Yes

[@ChrisTTTT]

Please do an episode with Dan vs. Spencer vs. Jason! This would be awesome!

[@JohnSpawn1]

That would be the best round.

[@liloiax22]

Kassem G I'm the same way lol. By the time I was both all 3 original Star Wars movies (episodes 4, 5 and 6) had already come out and even though I've obviously heard about them, I didn't even bother to watch them until after my friends and I sat down one night and watched Spaceballs just because my friend said it was hilarious. About 3-4 years after watching Spaceballs, I sat down with my cousin, the biggest Star Wars fan I know (so much so that years after, named his first son Luke and wanted to name his 2nd child, his first daughter, Leah but his wife would only let him name one of their children after Star Wars characters lol) and watched episodes 4, 5 and 6 right before episode 1 was about to hit theatres. But yeah, for about 3-4 years the only knowledge I had on Star Wars was from what I had learned from watching Spaceballs! lol

[@billytoit]

great show!! I will start watching following this... a personal opinion, you should always start with the contestant that has more points so that the losing contestants can more easily compete and make the fight a little more close. keep up the good work.

[@mraadr1]

The argument for Spider-Man was to see his villains, but here's the thing...MARVEL CANNOT DO VILLAINS FOR SHIT! Seriously, even Loki, the go-to villain for marvel is a joke, made out to be a huge laugh in the avengers. Probably the best villains they've done are iron monger in iron man, who is forgettable, and the winter soldier, who was just another henchman in the end. Can't wait to see how bad ultron and thanos are though! That's gonna be fucking fun

[@XantroyX]

There's a process. Give it time baby!

[@mraadr1]

Time?? They've fucked up over 10 villains

[@XantroyX]

But at the end we get the final boss battle with Thanos.

[@mraadr1]

If he's even a villain. Watch him be some underling

[@XantroyX]

I think they'll end this Avengers line up in Infinity Wars.

[@Lerkero]

Adding to the forms of lightsabers would mean that Star Wars has the potential to increase the number of personalities and styles of battle. I want to see lightsaber boomerangs, scythes, knives, etc. Why not? I would love if Terminator becomes a long running series in which each new movie is a soft reset that tells of a different past that led to the Skynet takeover because the resistance keeps sending things back in time to alter it.

[@battlemage5420]

Scythes, oh please i wanna see one lol that shit would be amazing. The boomerang sadly seems a bit weird but interesting and i know its an example but hey i likes it kind of lol

[@superchannel9864]

If their was a lightsaber scythe I would have a nerdgasm

[@battlemage5420]

I agree, just one big nerdy jizz fest am i right...i shouldnt be...

[@WilliamDoheny]

In the (former) Expanded Universe, there were weapons call Lightwhips that functioned like lightsabers.

[@Caedus696]

***** Whips have actually been covered a lot in the EU books. Would like to see them as well.

[@thekfc-kevinsfilmcommentar4855]

Seeing them discuss Star Wars Episode 7 teaser and superheroes MCU should get hits different now that the Star Wars Episode 7-9 came out and MCU has X-men, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man

[@Pumpkinshaker]

Great episode! :D

[@METALOZON]

Invite Alison more often, she's fun. Especially when she got angry about the Wolverine Origins stupidity. Her face got so red i thought she's gonna hit someone.

[@xnimmerx]

Is it just me, or did she just answer Xmen to every round? lol

[@gurujot951]

I like Alison, and it's so great to see a female nerd on the panel. Would love to have more of that, but besides her hating the deadpool blades, she was pretty agreeable. The thing I like about movie fights, is that each panelist takes a stance and sticks with it no matter what. they are never supposed to agree.

[@L4nd0C4lr1s14n]

The best movie death by any measure was Boromir (Sean Bean) in LoTR The Fellowship of The Ring. Sean get shots several times and out of desperation and honour barely manages to continue the battle in the hopes of simply buying Merry and Pippin time to be saved. Keep in mind how gripping his passing actually is and it's very important to note that Boromir's fight and death were not written in the book orginially, he's simply found riddled with arrows surrounded by slaughtered urukai. They decided he would get a death on screen and it's one of the best scenes in all three movies and my pick for greastest movie death.

[@L4nd0C4lr1s14n]

gurujot951 It's not the coolest no, but it is the most tragic and meaningful. It symbolizes the breaking of the Fellowship and the struggle that Boromir faced. He fought hard as anyone ever before to just buy them minutes, mere hope that Aragorn and the others would arrive in time, He did it without regard to his safety sacrificing himself in an attempt to save Merry and Pippin, and when he fails you think he has completely lost and it was all for naught, but then Aragorn kills the archer uruk hai and absolves him of what he tried with Frodo, promising that he would not let Frodo fail no matter what it took, It's the best I can think of, Tarantinos as just cool stylized and gory as hell. They don't have the emotion tied to them at all so they couldn't be.

[@nastushasunsha1255]

On the best movie death: when rose and jake found that wood fragment first they tried to go on it BOTH. and they failed - the door started to sink. it doesnt depent on square of that door. it depends on mass + mass of ppl on it and how it compensates archimedes' force. If mass is too high - not a variant for both. another question is why Jack didnt search for another piece of wood around to save himself too?

[@MrAddWill]

Fight suggestion! With so many 80s and 90s movie reboots coming to the fore, which new IP (released in the 21st century) do you think will be rebooted 20/30 years from now as nostalgia bait?

[@AchimaelProductions]

My greatest death in movies choice is Rorschach in The Watchmen. EPIC on all levels. "Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

[@Dillon_J]

the lightsaber looks cool but it is just impractical. if you just mess up in the slightest you risk dismembering yourself with the crossguard. yes i am aware that you dont ever touch the crossguard if you are trained but you cant tell me people have never touched a crossguard when in real combat on accident

[@GamerWho]

Couldn't you say the same of the blade?

[@Dillon_J]

GamerWho yes, although probably less likely to occur than getting touched by the guard

[@nightmareX1993]

We're talking about a completely weightless blade. EVERYTHING you do carries the risk of dismemberment, the balance is completely off. Even the most coordinated guy on Earth would PROBABLY dismember himself with even a traditional lightsaber. The fact is, though, we haven't seen anyone dismember themselves just yet, because lightsabers aren't wielded by average guys, they're used by space-wizards with minor precognitive abilities. In the OT, Luke never even had any formal lightsaber training, he just learned to use the Force, and he was still able to hold his own against Vader. They know what they're doing!

[@IdiotsInSunglasses]

nightmareX1993 ah, but how do you know its weightless? this blade has never really been explained. In what we know today and how this blade would work on earth, yes it's weightless, but we are talking about a universe that has achieved intergalactic travel. Don't you think the technology would be more advanced than ours?

[@nightmareX1993]

Tanner Mcclune it's a LIGHTsaber. It's a beam of light over a weighted hilt. In addition, the prequel trilogy basically establishes that there's VERY little, if any, resistance. Otherwise, it would be physically impossible to pull off any of the stunts in the lightsaber duels.

[@TWODOLLARBILLCHILL]

Finally, I am able to post comments. I have not posted one in years, mostly because I ironically do not enjoy arguing with youtube nerds...especially considering movie fights is my favorite thing youtube ever gave birth to. With that said, please guys, no matter what fight you guys get into the only thing I ask for is Andy to be a gladiator. I saw briefly your extremely dope passion for your opinion during a screen junkies "trailer fights" and I truly believe that you would sweep any topic...probably why your the judge haha. the only person who can leave their own opinion aside is easily the best mediator. regardless, you got chops dude. use em. lets get real. do this for me.

[@DrAndyShick]

Kyle Reese also briefly appears as a 5 year old kid in The Sarah Connor Chronicles, which coincidentally stars another Game of Thrones Queen as Sarah. It can definitely be part of the continuity, but I'm not sure that it is. The thing is that there is a scene in Salvation in which John listens to recordings of her mother that implicitly state that it is not in the same timeline as the first three movies (you have to be paying attention). Hence, there had to be another changing of the timeline in between 3 and 4 that we never got to see. SCC (and possible T5) might be part of that

[@MartyrA2J]

Easily the most unnecessary sequel was the Matrix Reloaded. It ruined a universe and was a joke by the time it was all over in part 3. Oh! Best Movie Death was Samuel Jackson in Deep Blue Sea. LMAO Huge epic speech and then f***ing NOM!!!

[@gentblue]

It was hard to believe that no one mentioned The Matrix here in unnecessary sequels. The actual worst sequel was Cat People 2 but Cat People is a bit obscure now.

[@TheBlond49]

Sorry but The Matrix trilogy is great.

[@MartyrA2J]

TheBlond49 Seriously? It was terrible. The story was all over the place. Everybody was in some sort faction and the keymaker and the white old dude. Just GAH! Don't even get me started on Revolution what a giant shyt box that was. The Matrix told a perfect story and ended on the right note. It didn't need a sequel.

[@TheBlond49]

***** I agree with Reloaded, too much on it, but pretty enjoyable, the weak film, Revolutions had a great philosophy, and The Animatrix, the whole concept of the expanded story told there.

[@MartyrA2J]

I agree the Animatrix was amazing but that was a spinoff. Not a direct sequel. Reloaded/Revolution just muddled everything for the universe. It was a mess. Revoluitions philosophy of what exactly? Neo and Smiths ridiculous Dragon Ball Z fight? I am sorry bro. Revolutions was really bad.

[@sartanko]

I'm the only one who really likes Timothy Dalton aren't I?

[@sartanko]

Thank you. Good to know I'm not alone out here.

[@cham2118]

Hail Dalton! He was my favorite Bond

[@sartanko]

Just imagine if he got to be in the better bond movies that had the superior scripts.

[@MrImastinker]

Trust me, you're FAR from the only one.

[@nandkolo725]

when wolverine had his claws chopped off his bones grew back almost instantly but since the adamantium wasn't only put over his bones but it also melted together with his bones, the adamantium grew or spread back over his claws at a later stage since it got some of logan's healing abilities

[@WinternetLP]

Star Wars Battlefront 2 explains that several academies for people to become Stormtroopers. Boba Fett was sent with some clones to attack the cloning facilities on Kamino to stop the cloning process, but Vader did end up secretly using them again to clone Galen Marek, his old apprentice.

[@kjjosh11]

please bring Jeremy Jahns to these fights

[@DohertyBoy1]

Yesssssss! :)

[@brayancatano136]

Upvote the shit out of this jahns fans please

[@chris6699]

Shit channel. No keep him out.

[@TheA1M4fame]

It'd be cool if you guys got JeremyJahns to do one of these movie fights.

[@TheMattyBoy00]

58:34 "[Spider-Man] needs to come back home". You mean like, a homecoming?

[@StevenJohnRobson]

The argument about naming your childhood home really hits a nerve with me. My house was known as the Dragon's Den. AND THEN THAT DAMN TV SHOW CAME OUT. When we finally did move house we had this idea to name the new house Dragon's Den Too. Like a clever 'two' wordplay thing, but that didn't happen... So instead we named our other house Endeavour House. Ten points to anyone who knows what that's from! We used to watch it on repeat for years. Class.

[@ThatGuy-jd3kj]

Most badass movie quote ? (Excluding Arnold movies, that's too easy.)

[@ThatGuy-jd3kj]

#MovieFights

[@benjaminquinn8894]

I am now in love with Alison Haislip.

[@Mayeur000Donz]

I read the stuff saying Skyfall was the "best Bond movie ever", and I was excited to see it with my Dad, 'cause he's been a BIG Bong fan ever since he was a kid. Skyfall is the first Bond movie he's ever disliked. He understood that Bond was going through a "you're getting old phase", but he was like "come one... Those were hardly James Bond stunts. I could do the stuff he was doing!" He was not impressed.

[@LovlyHorror]

For greatest movie death, I gotta give it to Roy Batty in 'Blade Runner.' That scene is not only beautiful to look to look at, it gives us one of the greatest movie monologues of all time and touches on themes of humanity in a way that few films dare to do.

[@zachthompson8239]

In Star Wars episode 4-6 the StormTroopers were not clones. In A New Hope Luke talks about recruiting to be a StormTrooper. They were only clones in the Prequels.

[@shorts87]

I think the only battalion left with clones in 4-6 was the 501, all the other stormtroopers where enlisted soldiers by the Empire to increase their arm forces. Luke wanted to enlist to become a pilot in the 4th. And there's a story about Han Solo being a failed stormtrooper, or he was at some point before knowing Luke, I read this things a long time in nobles so excused me if I don't remember correctly.

[@Caedus696]

Edrick Beltran I doubt even the 501 had clones anymore since the clones aged at twice the rate of normal humans they would have all died of old age by New Hope.

[@shorts87]

Yes you're right. But it was the last of them on 501 directly under DV comands.

[@ryansmith841]

Nicholas Cannaday The 501st was purely clones until the destruction of the first Death Star and then recruits started to be added. However I do think that there were still clone troopers as the narrator of Battlefronts II's story mode stays the same throughout and makes a comment about the recruits "We never really got used to the new guys."

[@ragingfiip]

The reason Dan constantly wins is because his choices/arguments make the most sense. His picks his answers with sound reasoning and articulates his arguments with complete logic. He didn't have much competition this week. I don't know much about Alison Haislip, but she seems like an idiot from this episode of Movie Fights. Her picks were purely based on personal preference without any type of actual solid, logical reasoning. And she contradicted herself throughout the show. It seemed like Kassem was only there for comedic effect for the majority of the show. He didn't take his arguments too seriously, except on a select few (completely agreed with him about Robert Downey, Jr. in Round 7).

[@thecompass80]

I can't believe nobody said anything about the part where the storm troopers are getting ready to get out of the ship. That's the only thing I wasn't expecting in the trailer and it gave it such tension... It's just like 2 seconds and it's my favourite part. Everything else's cool and I can't wait to see it, but I was expecting sand, robots, ships, lightsabers, the milenium falcon, the music... I wasn't expecting that tense moment with the troopers.

[@x23rizky]

Round 7: Heath Ledger. He turned The Joker from that visually happy and ecstatically crazy villain into the most dark and disturbing superhero villain of all time. Not only that, but he technically died for that role. Through his medication mixup to help him get through the after-effects of truly becoming his role as The Joker, he died of a deadly mixture (as I am to believe). So Ledger, I say, was definitely the BEST thing to happen to a superhero movie franchise (in terms of actors). And I can argue that The Dark Knight is the greatest movie of all time. I mean, an entire action car chase scene with no music - only sound effects, and one main soundtrack used through the entire movie but still gets your blood pumping right up to the last minute, all topped off with Heath Ledger's brilliantly superb portrayal of Joker!? Heath Ledger was definitely the best actor to join a superhero franchise.

[@PaddyCollector]

You guys are insane. The terminator trailer was fucking terrible. old arnold is good? what the hell are you talking about? old arnold delivering the same "ill be back" line? abosolutely terrible it looks incredibly low budget. even the scars on john conner's face look homemade, overdone, and cheesy. they are stealing entire scenes from the other movies. talk about lazy. and YES salvation was good. a solid 6.5 out of 10 movie.

[@PaddyCollector]

1. I understand how it makes sense to the story but arnold is almost 70 years old. He hasn't been in a decent movie for nearly 20 years. He needs to just go away. Just look at his imdb page and see when the last decent he made was. I mean the 6th day was in 2000 for crying out loud. 2. saying cheesy lines makes a movie cheesy. who wants a cheesy terminator movie? it might as well be made by the same people who do those scary movie movies and meet the spartans. 3. post production will not change makeup on a guy's face.

[@WTFate]

Seriously that was one of the worst trailers I have ever seen by far.

[@stainedblood66]

salvation was boring. this movie looks very good. and the story sounds realistic. why would they stop sending terminators back?. its cool. they sent a terminator back far enough that it make sense too. arnolds never been an amazing actor. in terms of acting skill, hes always kinda been a joke. but he can play the terminator. this is a real terminator movie. i dont see alot of movies in theater. but im seeing this one

[@stainedblood66]

one more thing though. its not possible for the past to change the way it did in this. the changes after you send someone back have to be initiated by them and not before they get there. or he would have known about it before he went back. because when you change the past it instantly changes the future. take that days of future past. that movie the second wolverine wasn't affecting anything else. is the moment the future should have changed

[@batboy-wb2cn]

PaddyCollector Your point? He was out of the movie buisness for a long time. And Terminator 3 was a good movie. If you dont like that its either not your thing(which is ok) or you are a hater. And Last Stand was ok, Expendables 2 entertaining. Lives he of his fame and our nostalic memories in these movies? Sure. But he earned that. Never got the Arnie hate after 2000. Yes, he isnt the Arnie of your youth. Get over it and enjoy good rides. I wasnt hyped(for an Terminator movie with Arnie in it) for the new one. But the trailer got me excited. Is he old. Yes. But Clint Eastwood and many others were and are cool with that "old guy" charisma. Arnie is too.

[@mstrainjr]

Disney owns Marvel, right? I've noticed that, except for the Terminator talk, this was all about Disney properties. Like, when talking about comic book movies, it's all Marvel. But when you look at it, what has DC done? There was the Dark Knight trilogy. Aaaand... that's it. The big talk is Star Wars and Marvel. Disney is now like the Google of Hollywood: competition exists, but we just don't care. I'm not thrilled at all about a Justice League film because DC hasn't given us anything to boost our excitement.

[@clancywiggum56]

Disney (thankfully) don't own James Bond

[@mstrainjr]

Clancy Wiggum Not yet. DUN DUN DUUUUNNNNNN

[@noecamarena9]

Xmen Fox Fantastic 4 Fox Spiderman sony Dark knight Man of steel Gren lantern Not givin us anything? You havent been paying attention have you?

[@jamescwoodall]

Sony owns Spidey and Fox owns the X-men and Fantastic Four so Disney/Marvel wasn't the only thing being talked about. I will say, however, that Disney is a powerhouse!

[@noecamarena9]

Caleb Woodall I wish I would said that....

[@sillydaddy101]

A lot of guys who study and practice fencing have been commenting that while the cross guard lightsaber is not perfect, it is actually practical. Sure, the little side things that project the cross guard could be sliced off, but as long as the sword keeps moving, its going to be very hard to slide a light saber down the side of another one. It does however give you some protection, while opening up a bunch of different strikes.

[@rbraunbeck96]

Oscorp tower was actually going to be in Avengers (just as a building in the background) but they couldn't get it done in time so they had to cancel the cameo

[@keka54321]

Why would you bring on a hipster that is "not huge star-wars-guy" on your panel, please dont invite him again.

He doesn`t know nothing... "Missing dad"??? Ho don`t know ho is the dad??

[@CountOrlok22]

Best actor to be featured in a superhero film and no one mentions Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Gary Oldman, or Morgan Freeman? Really?!

[@rockerman6459]

You know, I thought that the new saber was pretty cool. I began to think about the hilt, mainly, and I think I may have come up with a conclusion: What if those beams coming from the hilt are just excess energy coming from the main beam, and it's exiting through ports on the side of the handle? I mean, they don't come out at the same instant the main beam is released, so I feel like it could be excess energy. I could be wrong, and it's just a theory I came up with that I felt was worth mentioning. Whatever route they're taking with this new lightsaber, I have high hopes that it'll be awesome.

[@rockerman6459]

Okay, so I did just a tad bit of digging, and it would seem that I was wrong. Imagine that? :P Sorry everyone. It would so happen that those really are beams, and they are coming from emitters on the side of the handle. One before it was used by a certain Jedi Master named Roblio Darté during the Clone Wars. He survived Order 66, but Vader killed him during the Conclave on Kessel. His saber was much like the one talked about in this video, which is owned by a man named Kylo Ren. Not much is known about Kylo at this very moment, only that he is male and carries a red-beamed saber. The difference between the two sabers was that Roblio's saber had only two blades, the second blade dagger sized, and it was stationed at a forty-five degree angle. Here's the article I checked out for this info: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crossguard_lightsaber

[@canalcerradosuscribirsealn9003]

Hoping anybody will read this. Here is what I thing of the Star Wars VII The Force Awakens Trailer. It begins with what I don't thing is a clone, it is just reusing the incredible technique Luke and Solo used, so no problem with that. Then we see a new droid we had never seen. COOL, maybe the new R2D2 (trying to take his place)? The we see clones (real ones) getting ready for BATTLE, they are part of the empire, thet meaning they are being controled by a Sith maybe. Then we get to the lightsaber part, it is cool, we see a dark character in a dark place, walking darkly with dark music and a dark voice saying "THE DARK SIDE", IT IS EVIL! W e may love (hate) this character as much as we did Darth Vader. He has a cool weapon that we can analyse as TheR3aper5 said, it teaches us of what may or is going to happen. To end with a shot of THE MILENIUM FALCON with our favourite soundtrack playing. You get goose bumps (literally) and we can especulate on who is riding it and if we are going to see Solo take the Falcon one more, maybe last, time. The very best of the trailer is just this: It maid me very excited to see it VERY! I havce seen the original saga and love them but have never got goose bumps or even get surprised (because I saw it like 13 years in my life so I knew Darth Vader was Lukes father and all) and I think this one is going to be the STAR WARS of my generation that wil get me excited, goose bumped, surprised, amazed, nerdy and in love. GREAT TRAILER, HOPE IT TO BE A GREAT MOVIE!

[@PulpandArt]

I personally think the whole lightsaber thing is not important :-) I just want a good story and feel some emotions, not like with the Prequels. Look at Darth Mauls lightsaber..looks cool, right?! Well then you watched the Phantom Menace and just felt like crap.

[@MUTEscifan31W]

"No one looks like they've aged 10 years" There is literally a meme dedicated to showing how people's looks don't change for like 40 years between their 20's and 60's. So Kitty Pride not looking different between X3 and DoFP isn't really a problem. Patrick Stewart practically hasn't changed since he played Piccard on ST:TNG. That's like 25 years. It's been 14 years since the first X-Men film and Ian McKellan looks the same. 10 years is nothing.

[@TheSwampman001]

One of the most iconic movie deaths that I always remember is the lawyers death in the bathroom by the T-Rex in the original jurasic park!

[@yahyeetyuh1666]

As far as the lightsaber goes, the guard could easily work. There are numerous examples of materials that can stop a lighsaber blade, and a few that can actually SHUT DOWN a lightsaber for full minutes. specifically the cortosis metal. The extra blades could be used to implement absolutely lethal pommel strikes. However, I am inclined to agree that it is a homemade lightsaber. Sith are famous for improvised lightsabers. For instance, Darth Maul's saber is not technically a double bladed lightsaber, as both blades function independently. He created said saber when sent to a planet to assassinate a jedi. He failed the first three times and escaped with his life. The fourth time he added a blade which he activated later, surprising and killing the jedi. Also, that stormtrooper COULD be black. It only makes sense that after kamino stopped producing clones that the empire would replenish its ranks through other means.

[@jediharold12]

The light-saber should've been black, or just a different color. I mean RED... again?

[@rbraunbeck96]

Red saber-crystals are actually used by the sith for a few reasons 1.they are synthetically grown in a lab, they do not grow naturally like the other colors 2. red saber-crystals amplify dark force powers (like choke, lightning, etc.) and 3. it's tradition by now that the sith use red lightsabers

[@jediharold12]

rbraunbeck96 Oh shit, I didn't know all that. That makes it more... mad scientist/villainy in a way. Makes more sense, I thought their wasn't as much importance.

[@jediharold12]

rbraunbeck96 I felt like the trailer, tried making this lightsaber/sith reveal come out to be very cool, yet controversial. But I felt, like shit would've been awesome if it were black. PLUS, it also makes him come off looking like the bad dude.

[@rbraunbeck96]

jediharold12 Well he's supposed to be the bad guy (as far as we know), and it would have been awesome if it were black, and at first glance this new lightsaber seems awesome but then you think about it more and discover it's major flaws

[@jediharold12]

CJ.Miner Yeah i know, like yellow, white, even cyan. Itll be awesome if we get to see them in the new movies.

[@leelee.eeleel]

The only thing I didn't like about the new lightsaber is how the blade seemed almost kinda firey and not smooth like other lightsabers

[@radiospines]

They did that for the accuracy. If plasma were to be confined as a blade it would be unstable af and therefore vibrate all over the place.

[@joshbrown6562]

To be honest it seems more like its a poorly built saber. Siths aren't around anymore so maybe he's self taught or something, I highly doubt they'd make such a drastic change to the style of all of the sabers for the sake of 'realism' (it's a fucking lightsaber, and it's fucking star wars).

[@vvictor2266]

Isn't it a fire saber?

[@shmooveyea]

I liked the gritty fire look.

[@joshbrown6562]

SeniorCharry I thought that too

[@salamipuddin4206]

Fun fact: The Ultimate Marvel Comics styled that rendition of Nick Fury after Samuel L. Jackson, even though the Ultimate Marvel Comics started about 8 years before Iron Man came out.

[@Kinescopia_YT]

For the next Movie fight: What do we think on the Guillermo del Toro film Justice League Dark? and Which other superheroes should join the team (considering the anounced members are Constantine, Zatanna, Deadman and THe Spectre) ?

[@bunda713]

No Mundy = No Bueno...

[@ANIRUDHMENONtheacutecinephile]

Why the hell does everyone shit on CGI? A lot of now iconic moments wouldn't be possible without CGI.

[@ryansmith841]

I think it's more of a nostalgia thing for Star Wars, especially after JJ Abrams promised to bring back a lot of practical effects.

[@bnasty5614]

If it can be done with a practical effect that's how it should be done

[@ryansmith841]

Agreed, it makes it simpler on the actors and more believable for the audience

[@MinaMustache]

I know! visual effects are so good now, why even complain? i mean groot was amazing, the new assassin's creed look awesome. we're in the 21st century, computers are part of our everyday lives, why bitch about it? nostalgia is nice, but if we re-made the old movies people would thing it's crap because nowadays we're used to better stuff. sorry, but it's the truth.

[@ryansmith841]

I'm not saying that all CGI is bad, but for instance, James Cameron had better effects in Jurassic Park than he did 20 years later in Avatar. Jurassic Park was partially practical and partially CGI, so I do think there is a middle ground that can be reached

[@KonguZya]

It's been long-established that after the Empire took over, Stormtroopers were cloned from a variety of templates, and then they started recruitment of non-clones. As the clone in BF2 says, "We never really got used to the new guys." In fact, seeing a Jango clone however many years this is after the original films would be LESS appropriate.

[@TheRedArmy13]

The two little sabers are the swords 'hilt' which is there for protection to the hand. How isn't it practical. Also some argue that as most Jedi and Sith spin their lightsaber around excessively the owner is at risk from his/her own lightsaber. However it is likely that this Sith lord will use this lightsaber as a longsword so as not to put his/her own hand at risk and fight light a medieval Knight, did nobody consider this?? For the record storm troopers are conscripted and are not Clones. May the force be with you.

[@martynasvalanciunas5318]

WOW that girl is perfection ;)

[@robsorbo]

Best movie death, no exceptions: Samuel L. Jackson in Deep Blue Sea.

[@underhandghost32]

What action scenes were good in Origins? When the weapon X team tears through security in the opening sequence, Wolverine vs chopper, Wolverine vs Gambit, Wolverine vs Gambit vs Sabretooth, Wolverine vs Sabretooth II, Wolverine and Sabretooth vs The guy that was pretending to think about being Deadpool. Not saying it's a good movie but it DEFINITELY had more action beats. Also it did effect the universe it's how Xavier meets Scott and Aurora (Storm)

[@HoidingOn]

i remember reading some plot summary saying that there would be guys trying to reestablish the Sith so I like that idea of the lightsaber as one of the prospective Sith Lords. Though if that is what they're going for I would love to see some all out battle between a bunch of the dark siders over who will win out

[@azagorodthenightbringer7686]

I dont get the massive hype about the Star Wars Trailer. The trailer is pretty much shit, creating no tension or whatsoever. To sum it up, the things shown in the trailer are a black guy in a stormtrooper armor, a robot, someone riding on a hoverthing, the Millenium falcon - yay -, some X-Wings and a sith with a shitty lasersword. Its like they are showing things that hype the hard star wars fans, but nothing real to create real tension, like a good trailer should.

[@CDSoundtrack]

You make good points, but to be fair, it's only a teaser. Those are simply for hype. Wait for the real trailers to come out/be leaked, the tension will almost certainly be there

[@averagejoe6617]

No

[@clucl8117]

It's called a teaser for a reason

[@azagorodthenightbringer7686]

Cluc l Teasers are supposed to tease me, arent they?

[@OldMacdonalt]

Its not a Stormtrooper armor...... look at it closely

[@Grave_Rob]

please never invite that guy on the right back again.

[@jacka6207]

Retweet, fav, like, share, revine

[@Barbarella999]

Bring these three back for another movie fight! So fun.

[@carlj12]

I do have a question for next week. Could you ever see someone making a Masters of the universe movie? One that would make us forget the 80's one