Valyria and Nations It Either Conquered or Destroyed [Rearrangement]

[@KTChamberlain]

The Valyrian Freehold sounds like a fusion of Rome and Atlantis. Yes, I know Atlantis didn't actually exist, but the civilization that correlates the most to Atlantis was ancient Thera (modern day Santorini). Thera was an advanced civilization, it was a land of plenty, had hot springs, it was a trading empire, it had a link to Egypt, and it came to a catastrophic end with a volcanic eruption so loud that it was said to have been heard as far away as China.

[@dezzylele23]

Wow, great history lesson. I rarely learn true history from comments on KZbin but I did here and will probably remember it too!

[@josephstclair5937]

Seems pretty definitive. How can we prove something didn't exist? I trust Greek historians over the modern.

[@KTChamberlain]

@@josephstclair5937 Have you ever noticed that there are no external mentions of Atlantis prior to Plato? Plato was a philosopher, not a historian, and even then some of Plato's theories have been debunked like how he thought humans were "featherless bipeds." Even if Plato was an historian, his talks about Athens' history have long since been disproven. If that's unreliable, then how can I rely on what he says about Atlantis? Homer may not have been an historian, but at least a lot of what he wrote about Troy and Mycenae have been vindicated since the 1800's.

[@josephstclair5937]

@@KTChamberlain Well you'd be ignoring secondary sources which talk about other works citing it which were lost during the fire of the Library of Alexandria. We are discovering new things about our history every year. The absence of just a single type of written account isn't determinative. Plenty of history was passed orally. Some would argue similar architecture and the presence of complex trade networks supports the notion of an pan-Atlantic civilization.

[@KTChamberlain]

@@josephstclair5937 And you're ignoring that it's kinda trendy for historians to exaggerate the impact of the fire of the Library of Alexandria in 48 BC. Oh, don't get me wrong, it was unfortunate, but the Library would continue to operate for centuries, ultimately being destroyed for reasons that had nothing to do with the Siege of Alexandria. Plato was a philosopher, telling a story meant to spark philosophical debate, not historicity because once you start trying to analyze from that standpoint, then it falls apart, completely missing the point.

[@minatodroger7890]

Ahh Valyria the wonder and terror of the age

[@jamesbutler5732]

i love these vidoes, keep them up. also id just like to share a theory of mine. Since bran has the green sight he can theoretically rediscover the secret to making valyrian steel and what caused the doom.

[@christinemott1439]

James Butler if you have read the books, Valarian Steel was forged from the dragons fire and dragon glass.

[@jamesbutler5732]

Christine Mott I’m pretty sure no one, even in the books, knows how to make it.

[@christinemott1439]

James Butler Valyrian steel could not physically be made because dragons disappeared and no one knew about dragon glass. You need two ingredients as it's states that have just made there way back after being gone for thousands of years. I have read all the books twice and it states that you need dragons fire and dragon glass. When it's heated the valyraian steel molds almost too easily. It's near perfection.

[@jamesbutler5732]

Christine Mott that literally makes no sense, dragon glass just turns to steel? Literally no one knows how to make Valerian steel. Not even the song of ice and fire wiki knows.

[@christinemott1439]

James Butler Bahahahahaha did you say you searched it through the song of ice and fire portal? That's funny. READ THE BOOKS. I could go on and on about mining the dragon glass, what it was used for, how the the slaves mined it, but I have no idea what I'm talking about. What's the point obviously you have your answer. Safe journey to you good sir.

[@yaboyed5779]

So, Rome if they had dragons, and the Ghiscari are Carthaginians

[@knightshade1297]

I would like to see valyria in one of prequel

[@waywardasfuck4026]

Soon ❤ House of the dragon

[@trpimirkarlovic838]

​@@waywardasfuck4026 dude no

[@sonarbuge7958]

So Much information. Wow how much work must you have put into this

[@ScrivaTV]

A lot. But actually, while re-watching those vids now, I can't really remember how I made them. I watch them now just as you do. Strange feeling =)

[@thehighguarduk4820]

Really enjoyed this video, wonderful seeing all this information together. Really well told!

[@MonteCristoAUS]

Thanks for the compilation. It works well combined

[@will_silvano]

I wiped the shit out of my screen. Numerous times. And then I realized it was unnecessary. Great to watch though, learned and thoroughly enjoyed! :)

[@Phoenix_1991]

You have a good accent. Where are you from? Spanish?

[@ThommyofThenn]

What is the animtion from? It appears to be an interactive fiction/video game type of deal. I like it a lot but it is unusual, it has to be said

[@missourimongoose8858]

I really wish we got more water magic but its only in lore, i wonder why martin didnt give some of the dornish water wizard powers they could of inherited easily with the canon story but its like water magic has died out i guess

[@HarryMonn]

Valyria has immense parallels to Rome. They're both peninsulas, they both rose to prominence after fighting a series of wars against the reigning dominant power in the region. They both destroyed said powers capital and salted the ground. They both used massive amounts of slave labor from conquered peoples. They both built long lasting road networks whose construction techniques were lost after they each fell. They both left enduring, prominent cultural legacies behind them. I think GRRM basically made Valyria fantasy Rome.

[@Kunumbah1]

Is the thumbnail taken from Ngparadox?

[@Pierre-LouisGuillaume]

I don’t know if the image is from a game, but I know it was drawn by the Chinese artist Dongzi Liu. He has a DeviantArt profile name, EastMonkey.

[@mrredeef]

Hey man, could you link me to the thumbnail you selected for this video? Cant find it in any form except super tiny and low-res.

[@ScrivaTV]

Don't have the initial files anymore. I suggest you to take a screenshot while watching this vid on full screen.

[@raquelortega8283]

where did you get all these stories?

[@ScrivaTV]

Look for "World of Ice and Fire" book. There's also lots of materials in internet. + other G.R.R.M's books and short stories taking place in the same universe.

[@raquelortega8283]

thanks!

[@briantisdale4491]

I really like his accent I wonder where he is from?

[@ScrivaTV]

Latvia. Baltics.

[@JoeUchiha-gs5ru]

I camt remember where i heard. But soemone theorized the slaves would or could be reanimated like the whites to keep on digging.

[@melaniedelacruz3206]

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[@iceleafofalba]

💓🔥💓

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

Calling The Faceless men killed Valyria. They did the world a favor.

[@bensonfang1868]

Really? Why? You do realize they prevented the Dothraki savages from terrorizing the sarnori right?

[@brandon9666]

@@bensonfang1868 Considering the things they do to their slaves, I would have to agree with OP

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@brandon9666 honestly it's trading one evil for another it's not like essos got better after they were gone .

[@Snp2024]

​@@thatoneblackdude3333it got worse as dothraki wiped out cities after cities and millions pershied. But Jesus valyarians were like cartoonishly evil

[@zeechceez]

ÆSAUCE

[@ramzdalastpharoah]

Vesteros ! Assos ok

[@marcomartinez8621]

This make no sense why wouldn't all the dragon lords not start to occupy all the nations and become the dominant power in the whole world???

[@trpimirkarlovic838]

They did?

[@jmc4365]

Did they ? How come they didn't dominate Westeros before aagon the conqueror

[@traytray4500]

⁠​⁠@@jmc4365because at that time Westeros was seen as less then to Essos. So why would anyone care to conquer it.

[@seanmayory]

This is a great vid. But do me a favour and say Vale of Arryn 10 times fast. It's only the tip of the iceberg.

[@fike2951]

this is really informative... Good Job

[@davidmelgar1197]

Shouldn't the borders have included Dragonstone, Driftmark, and Claw Isle?

[@cookiestamps101]

Does anybody delve into fan lore for Valyrian freehold before the doom? Any fan fiction stuff let me know

[@alexv3357]

The auto-captions are pretty good at the English, but made-up names can become twisted into gems like "Västerås" or "the Old Empire of Geese" and "their capital Hauled Geese"

[@alexv3357]

"While Muir and Pantyhose were founded by merchants"

[@flamingmanure]

great vid but man u gotta do something about the videos framerate. its almost unwatchable to me.

[@MrThebarron007]

after 2 hours of research, I don't believe that the Ghiscari actually had harpy's fighting with them. Its all just symbolic...

[@ScrivaTV]

Of course it's symbolic.

[@MrThebarron007]

In a world of fire wryms unicorns and tiger people i couldn't be too sure lol. Amazing video its really inspired me to look much deeper into the GOT legends.

[@sirseegull]

obviously rome based. i like how everything casually explained can be consciously devised as one very high man’s thoughts while smoking pondering about what if in history. “what if rome wqs all one race, had dragons etc” “what if there were zombies past hadrians wall and that’s why they built the wall!” 😂😂😂

[@greenninjalol]

17:38. Yes, "It is known"

[@roush26]

I bet the doom was a super volcano triggered by all that mining.

[@theelectricprince8231]

The story of the Ryona is sad

[@AdrianMartinez-ho6db]

Imagine if the conquered/obliterated territories had their own answers to dragons, maybe not beasts but weapons and magic as well.

[@professionalantichristhate528]

Ah, the good old days