Scryfall Roulette || TTC 450

[@Caineghest]

Wheeler, Nelly and Cam, Thank you for having them, it’s great they are here.

[@tubeofglue8117]

The mishra combo, for those who dont know, is that if an artifact spell doesnt resolve, through effects such as the blood funnel counter, possibility storm, or even a simple counterspell, mishra will grab the card and put it onto the battlefield anyway, assuming it doesnt go to exile or the battlefield. So with mishra, blood funnel is just a flat 2 mana cost reduction for artifacts. Thank you for having me, its great to be here.

[@krostorm]

came here to say this

[@Midnightryder0802]

Thank you for having us viewers. We’re great to be here.

[@power998]

Wheeler: “I’d like to veto Access Tunnel, but I’ll read it first.” *proceeds to talk about it for three minutes*

[@prostitch626]

Thanks for having me Wheeler, it’s great to be here.

[@OctopusOwl]

Appreciate Wheeler highlighting the card artists. They deserve all the kudos

[@augmentingpath1522]

Mogg Fanatic was actually not printed when damage went on the stack, it was printed slightly before damage went on the stack. It got buffed 6 months after it was printed with the 6th Ed rules changes, and then returned to its original functionality with the M10 rules changes

[@robbithatman]

I came here to say this, I'm replying to bump this up.

[@Canahedo]

I appreciate TTC for keeping me up to date on what's going on with Magic, and I like how varied their conversation topics are, however if you told me that this is the podcast now and going forward, just Wheeler, Nelson, and Cam chatting about old cards, I think I'd be ok with that. Thanks for being here, it was great to have you!

[@starmanda88]

Large agree! I love this stuff

[@Lexicon.primal]

Thank you for having me, it's great to be here!

[@cowmark67]

Here's the Mishra combo: Mishra + Nether Void. You never pay the tax of Nether Void so your spell is countered. Then Mishra triggers putting the artifact spell into play from your graveyard or searching up an extra copy from your deck all the while Nether Void is making your opponent's spells cost 3 more or else it's countered. This also works with Blood Funnel where the artifacts you are trying to cast are cheaper because of Blood Funnel but you let them get countered by not sacrificing a creature and then Mishra gets the artifact back from the graveyard with the trigger.

[@Gemini476]

It's a year past Wheeler's 2012 end date, but Dragons Maze's _Possibility Storm_ is another iconic Mishra Commander Deck combo - you cast your Mishra's Bauble etc., Possibility Storm cascades you into another artifact and puts the bauble into your library, then Mishra lets you search your library for the bauble and put it onto the battlefield.

[@alexwayne2581]

this is missing the important line on mishra that it can get the same copy from thegraveyard or library

[@JagannathMxO]

@@alexwayne2581 Can't you order your triggers so that it's in the graveyard before the search effect goes off?

[@alexwayne2581]

@@JagannathMxO yes you can, it makes mishra really cool for commander because you don't have the option to get another copy from the deck so you get your spell countered or something similar where it doesn't end up on the battlefield then you can put it into play with mishra

[@taylord2006]

I'm on Wheelers side here! I could listen to that for hours easily.

[@NStripleseven]

There’s a KZbin series by some other magic KZbinr called Random Card Talkin’, and it’s basically just a 1-or-2-minute version of this, once every few days. It’s great.

[@Tomoka51]

Thank you for having me Doctors LRR, it's great to be here. The two major combos with Mishra are either Blood Funnel (which counters the artifact so Mishra can just grab the artifact from the bin, making artifacts cost two less) or Possibility Storm (which cascades into another free artifact, then places the initial one on the bottom of the library so Mishra can grab it).

[@jd11451]

The card you guys were thinking of was probably Explosion. Great for having me, Wheeler, it's thanks to be here.

[@Reach_W]

Thanks for having us, it's great to be here.

[@kenpokid10]

Thank you for having me, Wheeler, it's great to be here.

[@furbyfubar]

Thanks for having me, it *is* great to be here! When I saw the title of the episode I though there'd also be a black box over everything below the art box at first, so they'd have to guess all the hidden stuff (before then *also* talking about the card). For anyone at home (who doesn't have a dedicated Canadian comedian on tech) and wants to try getting a random scryfall card with everything hidden to test your own skills: An easy way to do this is to just resize the browser window to hide everything below the art and everything to the right of the card (so you don't see the oracle text), then use the browser's back button to get back to the front page of scryfall and press the random button. When on a card page you can toggle between "Maximize" and "Restore Down" to easily reveal and hide for the next card. I've played or at least followed Magic since Homelands and I use this part of my brain [*gestures* *wildly* *with* *both* *hands* *to* *indicate* *my* *whole* *head*] to memorize cards, but man are there a lot of non-memorable ones to find when you hit random!

[@flyingtoastr]

Wheeler clearly having the time of his life with this one. I also really enjoyed the format and think it should come back.

[@Asylumrunner8]

I think Nelson's Shared Fate/Psychic Possession combo is worse than do nothing: Psychic Possession skips your draw step, then Shared Fate replaces all of your opponent's draws with exiles off of an opponent's library, which means that the second clause of Psychic Possession that lets you draw cards never happens, so the combo is "you never get to draw a card again, and your opponent gets to play your deck"

[@Gemini476]

Shared Fate/Leveller _is_ a bit of a combo, though, albeit a weird and probably kind of bad one. You get to play your opponent's deck while they get to stare at your empty library and cry a bit.

[@TheRealWormbo]

The idea with Leveler and Shared Fate is that neither player actually draws cards anymore, but instead uses cards from their opponent's library. If that opponent (i.e. you) played a Leveler, the player who wanted to "draw" cards has nothing to draw from. It doesn't lose them the game, but they don't get any new cards to play either, while you still grab cards from your opponent's library. Psychic Possession is bad in either context, though.

[@maximiliangunther9597]

Mishra + Blood funnel + reading Mishra (it says graveyard). Then, the rest of the deck is cool cards like Golem Foundry, Summoning Station Combo, and other eggs, also affinity creatures. Ideal commander combo is mycosynth lattice + KCI

[@ribkoboldscout6740]

Look, when you're a highly intelligent flying cat, the world is your litter box, and anyone who tries to argue with you is about to be mauled and/or shat on.

[@klick37]

Loves me some entertaining gents being entertaining. Thank you for having me, it's great to be here.

[@johnnywins7031]

Wow, this was a super fun episode! The premise was great and the hosts had way more interesting stuff to say than I could've possibly expected based on those cards

[@prim_wood]

Thank you for having them, they were great to be here! Also we were great to be here, thanks for having us!

[@TheJohtaja]

Thank you for having me in your audience, Wheeler et al., it's great to be here.

[@MakeVarahHappen]

You stack the triggers with blood funnel or any "when you cast X counter it" permanent so Mishra resolves second, then search your graveyard for your newly countered spell, cheating it out. This lets you get around possibility storm, blood funnel, dovescape, etc. while still getting their benefits.

[@trentbringedahl347]

Thank you for having me Wheeler it's great to be here.

[@KC_Enthusiast]

"I'm pissing out that window." -Ben Wheeler, 2023

[@artemisjohns2209]

Thank you for having me, Wheeler, Nelly and Cam, it's great to be here.

[@beatrix-persephone]

I had no idea ben's encyclopedic knowledge of the game extended to cards exclusive to old pc games, and now I'm even more terrified of his power

[@DesolateZombie]

We Cam stans in this house. It's great to be here.

[@artemi7]

Thank you Wheeler, it's great to be listening here.

[@gkiyo]

Could've watched another full hour of this back to back, tbh. Great stuff.

[@rkk667]

Thank you for having me wheeler it was great to have been.

[@hyperstar2280]

I never thought I'd be glad wheeler wasn't on road quest but the discussion of him relieving himself out the window sure did. Lol

[@TheIrishJackel]

17:50 My first thought when the card appeared was "Mogg Fantastic!" My friends and I have always called him that as well. One of my favorite cards of all time.

[@Tr1sh4Lynn]

Thanks for having Wheeler, it’s great he’s being here.

[@michaelturner2806]

As a listener, thank you for having hosted this, Wheeler, it's great to be here.

[@kevinwestermann1001]

Thank you for being, it's great to have you.

[@princess_intell]

Thanks for having recorded this. It's great to watch here.

[@technyst]

Thank you for great to be here. We're having us.

[@lostmarble540]

Well I've been binging Chorocojo's random card talkin' series so obviously this kind of content is my jam

[@Drecon84]

Same

[@retrovirus61]

This is the weekly podcast I want.

[@pyredynasty]

Thank you for being had, twas great you've been there. Also I always love a Shandalar reference.

[@FanOfMostEverything]

I tried my utmost to make Psychic Possession work, using targeted card draw to get value and make only my opponent discard. That deck unironically ran Wistful Thinking.

[@irreleverent]

My favorite thing about vampire charmseeker is that in a 4 player game of magic you and another player can split it's cost, to return a removal spell in a third player's graveyard, which they then pay for to remove the fourth player's threat. So everyone ends up paying mana into killing the thing.

[@bandgeeks2005]

This was an awesome episode to listen to friends chat and have fun.

[@mmacmartin]

Thank you for having us, it's great to be here watching.

[@mattpotts995]

Very fun format, looking forward to other episodes of Scryfall Roulette!

[@erikbladh7464]

Mishra blood funnel is so simple and stupid. You let blood funnel counter your spell, and Mishra pulls it from the graveyard. All that text, just to reduce stuff by 2.

[@ethanbeck5892]

Thank you for having me, its great to view here.

[@kilo3989]

Man, I love to see how excited these nerds get about Magic 😁

[@trumpets101]

Thanks for having us here, it was great to be here.

[@Tha3l]

Thank you for having me Wheeler, it's great to be here!

[@jadedtrekkie]

43:52 this made me go "YEAH THIS GUY GETS IT" Edit: nevermind, he doesn't. Mishra lets you tutor from the yard, so you stack the triggers to have the card get countered then use Mishra's trigger to get the card back

[@pedrobettt]

I'd watch this about 300 more times, especially with a rotating cast. Wheeler's a must, though, just unrivaled knowledge.

[@marca.1014]

Thank you for having me Wheeler, it's great to be here.

[@ty_sylicus]

Can I just say, this is one of my favorite new segments?

[@DeathAngel137666]

Mishra "combos" with possibility storm, where you resolve possibility storm first and then find the spell it put away with Mishra.

[@Shadow298]

Really enjoyed this episode, great to see them havign fun with the cards and talking bollocks.

[@lucasdomingue9319]

New favourite episode format? This is as good as stump the experts or brewer challenges.

[@grelgen]

37:45 Psychic Possession and Shared Fate on the battlefield: you don't have a draw step your opponent has a draw step, they instead exile a card from the top of your library. you don't get to "draw a card" cause your opponent didn't "draw a card"

[@saiconjr]

Thanks for posting this show, its great to comment here

[@mikegibb5082]

Thank you for having me wheeler it’s great to be here

[@seandun7083]

I remember a cool deck concept with shared fate was to play no ways to win the game (only removal spells, counters, board wipes, etc)so once you resolved it your opponent couldn't win while you got to win with their cards. Mishra can get cards from the graveyard, library or exile so he lets you avoid sacrificing creatures for blood funnel but also works with things like possibility storm or nether void of you want to be really mean in commander.

[@mattperkinson9604]

The combo with Mishra and Blood Funnel is that you let the funnel counter your spells before the Mishra trigger resolves, then search your graveyard and find the card you just countered (which has the same name as itself) and put that into play, making all of your noncreature artifact spells (2) cheaper and essentially uncounterable.

[@heartofgoldfish]

Thank you for having you, it's great to be.

[@Bleesotron]

Thanks for making this video, it's great to be here.

[@chaosmittens]

This episode slapped. Hope we come back to this.

[@Decepticon141]

Enjoyed this. With the old cards I would love to hear a conversation about how many tweeks would be needed to make that card playable in todays game. (Less casting cost, add flash, remove until end of turn, stuff like that.)

[@diggerdog9205]

Thank you for being here, it's great to be there.

[@severallemmings]

The first combo I was aware of with Mishra is Possibility Storm. I had just started playing again and found a Mishra in my old cards. My play group mostly played commander and I thought he would make for a funny deck. So i looked up some deck lists and then found out Nether Void costs a million dollars.

[@techattack6803]

"I'm pissing out that window." is a thing Wheeler has now said on TTC, repeatedly.

[@ebmusicman84]

I will never get tired of the bit.

[@patcheckert295]

Thanks for lrrmtg... Great to be here!

[@automaton1740]

Thank you for Wheeling me haver, great it's to be here.

[@williamlogan5376]

I think Nelson found out what a sphinx favorite riddle could contain. Cause lord, did that hit me like the Door v. Wheel argument 😅

[@MrBrazill]

I'd love to see more of these, this was great

[@ShayVMG]

Am I the only person here who heard the words “psychic spiral” and immediately had the entire bit from Friday Nights run through their brain at impact force? “You dare imply that I am not in control of myself.”

[@OmneAurumNon]

Which episode?

[@ShayVMG]

@@OmneAurumNon "Darkness," about 3 minutes in.

[@OmneAurumNon]

good memory 😂

[@hungREEpang]

26:45 I've never heard Wheeler pop off *that* hard before. Now I wanna see it more.

[@cloud13Wizard]

Much thank. Very great.

[@Lucarioguild7]

The combo Wheeler mentioned with Blood Funnel works basically you get uncounterable artifacts that cost 2 less because you let the blood funnel trigger resolve countering the artifact and then just put it in play with Mishra's ability

[@ClexYoshi]

Nice of Cameron to sub in for Serge for this episode of North 100

[@jacefairis1289]

And on the pedestal, these words appear: My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Thank you for Having me, it's great to Be here!

[@TheJamesawesome]

Like this format hope to see more!

[@wesleyackerman8211]

Thank you guys for being here, it was great that you had me

[@lucasenraraujo]

I had Psychic Possession in my Damia, Sage of Stone deck and I have to say it's an underestimated card. Getting to share a ride on an opponent's draw is pretty good specially nowadays where every commander deck wants to draw cards. Either they'll slow themselves down to avoid giving you answers or you get free cards, so it's always a win

[@superawesomedman]

More of these guys talking about random cards please

[@mikeyjhilli]

Stops it at :45 great opening bit. Thanks.

[@marxmeesterlijk]

51:00 ahhh the original sphinxes riddle

[@JR-cx7ik]

Love this trio. Access Tunnel is one of the best cards in Delina, Wild Mage

[@SjefDriscoll]

Thanks me for having here, it's great to be you

[@s7eve1980]

Thank you guys for having me, its great to be here!

[@vantharion]

Here's timestamps for some future person who pulls this video back up looking for a specific quote. 3:08 Gem Bazaar 5:19 Burst of Energy 8:00 Psychic Trance 14:00 Mogg Fanatic 18:00 Swarm of Bloodflies 21:06 Ritual of the Machine 24:05 Access Tunnel 26:49 Exalted Angel 29:27 Vampire Charmseeker 32:50 Esika's Chariot 34:35 Psychic Possession (and Shared Fate) 39:28 Illuminate 42:50 Mishra, Artificer Prodigy. The combo they're looking for here is a cost reduction of 2 for your noncreature artifacts. Blood funnel counters the spell, then Mishra lets you pick that artifact out of your graveyard and put it in play. 45:54 Ghost Hounds 47:33 Painful Lesson (Veto'd by Wheeler) 47:40 Sphinx of the Second Sun: Mostly talking about some dingus at an event. Do Sphinxes have litterboxes? 52:49 Adarkar Valkyrie 55:55 Stormfront Pegasus 56:20 Inferno Trap 56:47 Starfield Mystic 57:16 Cerebral Vortex 58:06 Summoner's Egg 59:36 Underworld Coinsmith 1:00:45 Tidal Flats 1:02:15 Soul's Might (Veto'd by Nelson) 1:02:28 Scalding Tongs 1:04:22 Takeno, Samurai General

[@cassie5248]

45:30 it's 1 year too late but the combo i always heard with Mishra was possibility storm. So basically, whenever you cast an artifact spell, the artifact goes into your library and you cheat out a random other artifact, then mishra gives you the original artifact back

[@Synedrex12]

Thanks for having me Mom, it's great to be here.

[@falconJB]

Psychic Possession also works with anything else that skips your draw, Necropotence, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Taigam, Elfhame Sanctuary, Solitary Confinement, and in non-singleton formats 3 other Psychic Possessions. It also works as a great against heavy draw decks especially looting decks.

[@badgeronriodz6792]

This again. Thanks for having me great to be here.

[@Tweygoh]

Thanks for loading, it’s great to ready run

[@kareni8663]

excited to watch this, hitting random card and just talking about it is great content imo