SCUF ENVISION vs Dual Sense Edge Vs Xbox Elite 2 | Which Controller?

SCUF ENVISION vs Dual Sense Edge Vs Xbox Elite 2.
Today we put these high end controllers to the test! Which one will win? The SCUF Envision Pro? The PlayStation DualSense Edge? or The XBOX ELITE 2?
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0:00 Intro
0:30 Price Comparison
1:03 DualSence Overview
6:57 Xbox Elite 2 Overview
12:01 SCUF Envision Overview
18:46 Response Times
20:50 Conclusion
#playstation #scuf #review

[@Driftsylvania]

Gonna have to do a Scuf Vs. TURTLE Beach Ultra Stealth.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Great idea, maybe something for the new year 👌

[@ChickenPopGames]

I have one ready for review 👍

[@ChickenPopGames]

0:00 Intro 0:30 Price Comparison 1:03 DualSence Overview 6:57 Xbox Elite 2 Overview 12:01 SCUF Envision Overview 18:46 Response Times 20:50 Conclusion Enjoy everyone!

[@gagemckinney4479]

In case anyone is wondering, with the dualsense edge you can actually put those back paddles on flipped the other way from how he put them in. I have smaller hands so I flipped them to point toward the part of the controller you hold and it became way more comfortable. I have been using the edge since release and have had no issues. Great response time for shooter games

[@jimfarson799]

Just purchased a scuf pro for my pc. I had a scuf controller previously (ps5 fps version) not a cheap controller either. It’s finally getting stick drift. I was surprised because I’ve easily logged over 1000 hours with it; with no problems whatsoever. I figure stick drift will still be an issue, seeing as how the stick modules aren't replaceable. But if I can get another 1000 hours out of this controller, I’ll be extremely pleased.

[@hylyfee4884]

Hmmm.... Great review. I was thinking you were missing a bit of point on the Envision Scuf, but you have a specific review. You should outline that a bit more. Great review over all. That bit about dynamic configs on the stick with zero latency is worth a try.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thanks and appreciate any feedback you might have. 👍

[@Insentium_gd]

Amazing review! you deserve more subs

[@ChickenPopGames]

Really appreciate your support 🙏

[@Seymourseykrets]

Subbed because you actually made a video nobody seems to make

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thank you 🙏

[@angels2332]

Good vid other than explaining the elite series 2 controller, as the dpad doesn't feel like it's gonna fall off as it's a magnet not one whole piece, and that the battery of the elite series 2 can get well over 40+ hours of use without a charge other than that it was a good vid

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thank you for sharing your experience, maybe it was a bit harsh wording so I will take on your points for the future. I still can’t believe the battery on it, if only other controllers could be this good and last 40 hours +, Really appreciate your comment. 🙏

[@michaelcross8714]

Good review vid mate

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thanks 🙏

[@sterlonb.digital777]

The Dualsense Edge ALL DAY EVERY DAY!

[@sowsowfn]

Um no. It only has 2 paddles so the Xbox elite is way better because it’s cheaper.

[@BboyLevitate]

I have a lot of experience with the Xbox Elite Series Controllers had both series 1 and 2. Always preferred it as I always had a positive experience with them. I recently got the Scuf Envision controller. Only had for a few weeks but it’s an amazing controller so far. Love the mouse click buttons and overall customization is great. I’ve always stayed away from Scuf because their reputation from past controllers but since they were purchased from Corsair heard with recent controllers the quality control was better.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Glad you like the SCUF, I really like it too. Now I’m getting used to it I just wish I could use it on consoles as well, that would be a killer function. Thanks for your comment. 🙏

[@johncrompton4640]

I personally have had nothing but software problems with my scuf I replaced my first one got a replacement exactly the issues clean wiped all icue software re installed still not working. I have to program my extra buttons manually using the controller itself without icue

[@ChickenPopGames]

I am so lucky as I haven’t had a major issue like this, I actually wonder if it’s a software issue or a faulty batch of controllers, it would have been safer for SCUF to have a mobile app I recon. I have had a few disconnections this last month or so though, I’m going to give an update soon. 👍🙏

[@Chipchop123]

Enjoyed this, it feels like SCUF put some effort into the design.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Definitely, thanks for watching 🙏

[@CandarianGaming]

If you play on PC over multiple different genres including non controller supported games, I'd pick the Dualsense of the 3. With steam input, reWASD, etc. the Dualsense is the only controller of those that has gyro which can emulate mouse input. Which in turn will make you way more accurate than the other 2 for games that don't have aim assist on PC.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Such great points and well worth considering, I’ve found the Gyro and Trackpad not much use for me but I can see how this is something people would utilise a lot. Thanks for the input. 🙏

[@zZiL341yRj736]

What I've been doing, already have my Dualsense, modded with the ExtremeRate Rise 4 remap kit for $42 added some KontrolFreak Hi rise sticks for $15, Steam Input, trackpad, gyro. The ultimate control for a fraction of what these things cost.

[@kiwidll4018]

Just an fyi the paddles on the back (PlayStation edge) are set up wrongly, they should be in the horizontal axis and not vertical how you positioned them.

[@AgentDGW]

hear me out…… ITS HOW EVER YOU WANT THEM TO BE ???????????

[@ChickenPopGames]

I didn’t know you can have them both ways, really appreciate your input. Thank you 🙏

[@kiwidll4018]

@@AgentDGW oh really, I thought that there is 1 way of using them, since every pro controller with back paddles has them exactly one way and that is horizontal so that it is closer to the fingers.

[@novrain62]

I loved the look and feel of th xbox elite 2, but returnet it back because of that weird deadzone that had lose input, I wish it wasnt like that I would prefer it over all other controllers. Now im enjoing ps5 edge pro controller.

[@PBodian]

this! feels so weird! havin a hard time using it ngl

[@novrain62]

@@PBodian so its still not fixed? does tightening up the analogs help a little bit at last?

[@MattSinz]

Scuf Still not using effect joysticks is a shame, they should be standard on every pro controller at this point.

[@ChickenPopGames]

I really like the joysticks on this controller, but maybe they will do a version 2 in the future with the upgraded joysticks.

[@ReadyforNovember]

I was only interested in the response time of scuf nvision pro... It's good for first person shooter games?

[@ChickenPopGames]

I feel that’s what it’s designed for and it’s very good, as everyone says though the software can let it down.

[@Crocodile64]

I recommend buying a Xbox series elite 2 then modding it with hall effect joysticks so there will be no stick drift.

[@TheWhiskeyGamer77]

Victrix Gambit is nice by the way.

[@ChickenPopGames]

I have actually reviewed the VICTRIX Pro BFG recently, was thinking about the other controllers actually. 👍🙏

[@jxcks0nYTs]

my envision pros back and side buttons stopped working, thinking about getting the dualsense edge

[@ChickenPopGames]

I keep going back to the PS5 controllers, they just work and are reliable. I have had a few dramas with disconnection on my SCUF since review which is annoying. Ile do an update soon. 👍🙏

[@Jaaayzz]

Hey brother.... what controller do u feel is better for small hands to play shooters ? i use the paddles too much

[@ChickenPopGames]

SCUF Envision definitely feels smaller than PS5 and Xbox is smaller to so depending on budget I’d choose one of those. 🙏👍

[@Jaaayzz]

@@ChickenPopGames and between scuf or xbox ?

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@Jaaayzz for me personally it’s the SCUF, it’s shaped perfectly for my hands as you can wrap them completely around the controller. Definitely better for smaller hands and it’s lighter. I’m reviewing the new Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra if you can hold out a bit longer. 👍

[@gdoyle05]

I have the Scuf. I enjoy the buttons SO MUCH Pretty much the only benefit I see though.

[@ChickenPopGames]

I enjoy it too. 🙏

[@willy7968]

how's the elite trigger ? do they feel good on fps games. I have the dualsense edge for my PS5 but now I'm moving to PC and I only play COD but the edge just feel too big for me to press the back button while shooting, does the short trigger button feels great compared to dualsense edge? Edge trigger stop isn't great I'm also considering the Vader 3 Pro with hall effect stick and mouse click triggers

[@ChickenPopGames]

Id personally go for the SCUF as it’s smaller and better shaped in the hand. Triggers are perfect and have mouse clicks when locked off. It works so much better with PC than using a PS5 controller through Bluetooth. I’ve still not had any issues with mine yet.

[@ChickenPopGames]

P.S the elite triggers lock off better than the PS5 but still nothing on the Envision.

[@tbj5619]

Those aren’t mappable buttons under the joystick on the edge. Those are the buttons you use to change profiles.

[@alanbenyamin487]

None of the above. I went with the guilikit kk3 max. Couldn't be happier 😊

[@ChickenPopGames]

That’s definitely a controller I want to try, it came out after I made this so could definitely be a new contender! 😃

[@Somtric]

If only the dualsense had 4 back buttons or the Elite Series 2 would have a symmetrical version. I have the Envision Pro (returning it), which is bascially my dream controller.. but there is just WAY too many issues with it's software and the iCue software.. the on-board memory does not work at all and so forth.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Yeah, I gota admit I’ve just reviewed the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra against the SCUF Envision and if they took all the good points of all these controllers into one it would be the perfect controller. 🙏👍

[@YRfvgk-tj5tb]

The ps5 controllers can be overclocked to 1000hz polling rate, the Xbox can not and the scuff envision has like a 500hz locked polling rate can not be overclocked either. The ps5 controllers on pc and overclocked will have substantially less input lag then the scuff and wayyy less then any Xbox controller

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thanks for watching, I don’t tend to overclock my controllers, I test them as factory. One day I will do a physical lag test after overclocking to see if it actually gives me quicker reaction time. 👍

[@ThreeGss]

I read 8000hz is better on the ps5.

[@Thedukes1984]

Great video mate. It always confused me why pc gamers wanted to use controls, but hey, each to their own. See you Saturday night.

[@ChickenPopGames]

See you Saturday ✌️

[@bakedbeast9043]

I can’t speak for everyone, but for me it’s bc I’ve been a console gamer for almost 30 years. Thats a lot of muscle memory to break to try and relearn keyboard and mouse.

[@chriswilbur1356]

M&K hurts my back

[@Gixerboy]

For games like call of duty where controller is the obvious dominant input device.

[@datskae]

whats the like mindcraft beat called?

[@ChickenPopGames]

I will look this up for you later 👍

[@Drelay]

I had the Xbox Elite 2 and I gave it Back 2 days later stickdrift Buttons Not working and so on. Still tho the greatest controller I ever Held in my hands decided to get the ps5 Edge tho. Lets see how i like it

[@ScouserStreamz]

I got a series 2 elite and came with stick drift out box so I took it right back

[@YZDreamer]

ps5 dual sense edge you can connect it to anything via dongle (brook) it hase touch pad , it has gyro , it has speaker, it has microphone and you can even apply tension via precision rings cost arround 5 10 bucks on amazon and it is cheaper to fix if you have stick drift so the only down side is battery and that damn stupid rubber at the back and it has only two back buttons but i normaly use just the two so it is not a big deal breaker for me

[@GeorgianPranks]

that's a very bad way to compare response times. First of all, you should be checking joystick response time, not the triggers, for it you can use many third party apps.

[@Jacob_burger]

Your under rated

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thank you, have a good day! 🙏

[@redeagle_al4205]

The elite is beauty but just to Watch that’s it if you do something you curse everyone

[@tannertrivett1436]

Envision pro is a tiny controller and is locked too 2ms response time it is a not overclockable and side buttons constantly clicked when trying too shoot returned it next day was a terrible compared too the dualsense edge.

[@tannertrivett1436]

Also the app was terrible triggers couldnt go too zero deadzone was clicking on its own.

[@tannertrivett1436]

Also didnt test overclocked which if you on pc and not doing you are lacking.

[@ChickenPopGames]

At least you tried it, I can’t agree more about the software, it’s not up to standard. You can blank off the side buttons and response times for me are not noticeable compared to the Dual Sense, TBH both the controllers have strengths and weaknesses but I would be happy with either in the long run. Really appreciate your input, I feel your points are valid for your experience. 👍🙏

[@ProjectFraz]

Gotta tone down the music. Sometimes it's hard to hear you

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thank you for the advice, really appreciate your honesty 🙏

[@SourxStacksz_]

I been considering the envision over all of these I’m still wondering if I should get the Xbox elite but the envision reminds me of the scuf vantage with the sax button and I loved that controller so much so I might pull the trigger and get the envision

[@ChickenPopGames]

I’m going to be releasing the SCUF Envision vs Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra in the next day or two, it maybe worth holding out for that 🙏👍

[@jamesmatushin5457]

If you have big hands don't get it

[@chriswilbur1356]

I have been a Razer controller user since the 360, ive had one for the 360(sabertooth), one for the xbone(Wolverine Ultimate), and so far one for my series S (chroma v2) fantastic if you dont mind a wired controller

[@ChickenPopGames]

This sounds like it’s worth a try, Ile keep this one in mind for the future 🙏

[@-Zarion]

I only play on PC. Xbox Elite 2 was a game changer, well the 4 Back Buttons + reWASD made my Controller gameplay much much better (I don't play shooter). But I had to replace the RB/LB Buttons, had to buy them and solder, did it for the first time, took me a while but I fixed them. A/B/Y/X don't trigger all the time, happens quite often with A, the other ones are OK. The current Controller Market is bad tbh. 1. Xbox Elite 2, lacks many features like Gyro, Quality Control issues, like LB/RB and A,B,Y,X buttons. But PERFECTION regarding the back buttons layout. 2. Sony Edge, came out last year but uses bad Sicks, at least you can change them, only 2 Back buttons, like wtf? I would've bought it if it had 4 Back Buttons. At least it has all the features. 3. Scuf, Bad sticks, lacks Gyro. Tbh, I would've tried it if it had Gyro that I need. All other controller: I ordered Flydigi Vader 3 pro, but quality control is worse then Microsoft, so I don't expect much. I wanted Gulikits new Controller (4 Back buttons Elite 2 layout!!), but you can't map the back buttons to keyboard, like many other controller, they don't care much about PC, they focus on Switch too much. Conclusion, a Controller can cost more than a keyboard, my k100 was cheaper than Scuf and Edge lol. But they still don't deliver a good product, they design them to not last long or don't add features that should be standard by now. I really hope that Microsoft improves the Quality Control before releasing the Elite 3, leave it the same, add better sticks, maybe a few new buttons and all modern features like Gyro. Or Vavle releases a new controller, I am pretty sure that would be the last controller I would need to buy.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Such a great in depth review there, thank you for your input, I’m going to do a 6 months later with the SCUF Envision to give an update. I’m just reviewing the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra which you may like, really feels good, look out for the comparison this weekend. 🙏👍

[@genna2757]

Scuff envision pro doesn’t have bad sticks wtf your talking about?

[@emiliodominguez9045]

Ima have to disagree my logic tech gaming keyboard was 350$ and thats just logic tech now think about a good custom keyboard shesh

[@jamesmatushin5457]

Scuff envision is to damn small the edge paddles break very easily xbox elite lb or rb always breaks but mine has lasted me 2 years before it happends so for me its the elite 2 plus the tension on the sticks is badass

[@imaginillyar3572]

I've got small woman hands. XBox controllers are too big for me. Dualsense isn't too bad. Do you think Envision is smaller than XBox?

[@imcracked4045]

Im so bummed.. I bought the elite 2 with all the accessories. 2 months later i found out that it has the SLOWEST polling rate of almost every controller out there. Im selling my controller at a huge discount to buy the scuf envision

[@ChickenPopGames]

The Elite 2 has great response times wired if you are happy with that? I have just done another review on the channel Envision Vs Stealth Ultra which may sway you another way?

[@imcracked4045]

@@ChickenPopGames hey thanks for the reply, and the great content! From what ive seen, the Xbox Elite 2 controller is capped at a 125hz polling rate, which equates to 8 milliseconds of input latency. Is this polling rate different when wired? I only play wired on my PC. I like to play competitive FPS so im considering selling my new (6 month old) elite 2 controller, and getting the envision mostly for the higher polling rate

[@imcracked4045]

@@ChickenPopGamessorry, i see u have a polling rate section of the video! Im at work so i didnt have a chance to watch the whole video 😅

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@imcracked4045it’s ok, I actually just did average response time, I will start to do polling rates as well soon. 🙏👍

[@boestube5805]

This review seems wrong according to other reviews. One review shows the dualsense Edge polling rate at 1108.49Hz (My Dualsense polls at 1000Hz) and when wired to PC it has an average input delay of 0.9ms maximum at 1.92 and minimum at 0.62. while the Elite S2 wired to PC has an average input delay of 7.85ms maximum at 9.86ms and minimum at 4.75ms. Elite S2 polling rate wired is 127.23Hz. I own the elite S2 as well and love the 4 paddles.

[@ChickenPopGames]

I believe the 1000hz poling rate is once it’s overclocked, I don’t do that sadly. My speed test includes full system latency so I base it on an average of how much faster I am with a particular controller. I know it’s quirky but I feel it gives me an indication of how the controller performs in real time. I appreciate your message, many thanks 🙏

[@boestube5805]

@@ChickenPopGames No problem. FYI - The 1000hz polling rate for the Dualsense is standard, no overclocking involved.

[@FozCoolLiving]

Hey, scuf envision pro or normal?

[@ChickenPopGames]

Great question, normal doesn’t have wireless or lockable rear buttons I believe so depends what type of gaming you do. If you are serious with FPS games then I’d go for Pro. 👍🙏

[@FozCoolLiving]

@@ChickenPopGamesThank you , i play a lot of cod on pc , always cable connect to pc ,but i see a lot of people saying the system is trash , the support too , and controller stick drift easy , is the same with you ? and the edge wins on this because where i live , the edge sell in everyshop and talk to face its easy than suport!

[@ChickenPopGames]

⁠@@FozCoolLiving I believe all the controllers have had some sort of negative feedback, the problem is we only normally see the negative comments and there is also lots of positive out there you don’t hear about. The edge is a great controller but doesn’t have 4 back paddles and is big and bulky in the hand. If that doesn’t matter to you then go for it, they are all great controllers and you’d be happy with any. 👍

[@FozCoolLiving]

@@ChickenPopGames you are right, when i buy i tell you What i choose

[@mattmasone9768]

while the scuf may look good guys, i owner one for my xbox one and one for my series X and they both fell apart extremely fast for the outrageous price. Don’t do it.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thanks for your experience and if this happens to mine I will be reporting back here to let you know. I hope it doesn’t though. ✌️

[@captainfreeX]

Все это красиво,но главная проблема качество стиков и кнопок на хвох через полгода,качество стоящее 18$,а не 180$!😢

[@ChickenPopGames]

I hope this controller has good reliability, I will post an update in six months and let everyone know. ✌️

[@rees3lo]

I returned my envision pro as well I just couldn’t get use to the layout of the controller

[@ChickenPopGames]

That’s a shame, what are you using instead?

[@ergonomicL]

Same. And it was definitely bigger than my ps5 controller so I’m not sure how the dual sense edge would be bigger than the envision?

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@ergonomicLThat’s interesting, it shows that we all have different hands. To me the Edge was just a bit fatter and heavier in the hand. The SCUF seems to fit my hands perfectly. Definitely worth noting this for future reviews, really appreciate your input. 🙏

[@ergonomicL]

@@ChickenPopGames fatter, not taller from bottom of the handle to the bumper. Because I measured my ps5 controller to the envision and it’s taller

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@ergonomicLI feel this is what I meant by bulky in the hand. I’ve been switching between the PS5 and SCUF for a while now and I don’t even notice the transition anymore. Both are great controllers. 👍

[@imaginillyar3572]

which is best for small hands?

[@ChickenPopGames]

The Elite 2, Turtle Beach Stealth ultra or SCUF Envision would be my preference 👍

[@imaginillyar3572]

@@ChickenPopGames - thank you! I'll look into the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra. Unles the Elite 2 is different, XBox controllers don't fit my hands well, the last one I tried caused me problems. I really want a SCUF Envision but I've heard way too many reports of things not working right out of the box. I suspect it's a good controller - unless you get a lemon. I'm in Canada and would have to buy directly from SCUF and don't like the idea of having to ship it back.

[@bruceschlosser542]

Can you use the scuff on the PS five

[@ChickenPopGames]

Sadly not. 😢

[@_223Demon]

I returned my Scuf Envision Pro after three weeks. Looks nice and feels nice including the click buttons but holy crap is the software horrible. The software would close out of nowhere which will not allow any inputs of the controller aside from basic movements. My gaming performance decreased with the envision pro + iCue, sadly. I really wanted to keep the controller but is the horrible iCue software that ruined it.

[@ChickenPopGames]

What a shame, I’m gutted you didn’t get on with it, did you go back to something else?

[@huracanschiz]

straight trash lol

[@epicmike3915]

This is pretty much the reason I don't want to buy it. Just like Razer the ass software ruins it.

[@luissmedrano123]

U can program direct to the control instead of having to use icue

[@javieraguirreagullo3530]

you put dualsense paddles on the wrong side, the paddles has L and R marks

[@ChickenPopGames]

Hi, this has been pointed out already but u appreciate your support. Thank you for watching.

[@javieraguirreagullo3530]

@@ChickenPopGames I like your channel, keep it up

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@javieraguirreagullo3530thank you, please keep the feedback coming. 😊

[@Nicholas-hp1si]

Elite Series 2

[@ChickenPopGames]

Great choice! 🤙

[@mitchellp7739]

Except it has a terrible defect in the bumpers where they will fail after a year. Also non symmetrical sticks are terrible

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@mitchellp7739it’s a really good point, I must admit the non-symmetrical sticks take some getting used to but each to their own I suppose. I think reliability was one of the reasons why XBOX decided up the warranty and to align it with the other brands but this is just speculation of course. Thanks for your input ✌️🙏

[@mkatakm]

Ps5 controller has been the best one for me since I got one.

[@ChickenPopGames]

So so great to hear, it’s a really good controller. 🙏

[@cunawarit]

It's such a shame the Scuf Envision has no gyro, because the back button placement looks ideal! But no gyro just rules it out for most games I play. With Steam being so good with gyro aiming it's so strange a PC specific controller would have no gyro.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Such a great point, I’m getting reviewing the new Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra soon so will see how that compares to the SCUF. 🙏👍

[@cunawarit]

@ChickenPopGames The Stealth Ultra looks like a beast! The issue I've have with Turtle Beach controllers has been reliability, I like what the Recon controller does for sound a lot. Sadly, they've never lasted long for me. I'm on my third Recon. The headsets though, they are excellent! I love Turtle Beach headsets.

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@cunawarit this is really interesting, it seems the most reliable controllers long term are PS5 DualSense as no one has mentioned them yet and I’ve certainly not had an issue. I will test some of there headsets at some point 🙏

[@lucasv4]

Response times are wrong you acutally calculated your brain response time, use Xinput to get the following response time : Ps5 dualsense 1ms ( 1000 polling rate ) Scuf 6 ms ( 300 polling rate ) Idk for the elite

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thanks for the reply, the response times are to show that I was faster with certain controllers and that I or you can react quicker in game. Maybe I could have done the percentage differences instead. Appreciate the input. 👍

[@soccerchris05730]

while you should use Xinput, the stats here are completely wrong

[@Demonangle00]

Music is distracting and very loud

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thanks, I will make it quieter next time. 🙏

[@DIG_Adxm]

Bro just get the pack for the series 2

[@ChickenPopGames]

Thanks for the comment, I had to buy it separately which would have cost a lot more money. This was due to the core colour white wasn’t available with it. Buying these controllers cost me a lot of money for the review 😂

[@Decki777]

​​@@ChickenPopGamesyou can buy cheap Chinese pack pretty much same as Microsoft pack but way cheaper

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@Decki777thanks for the advice, will definitely look at that 🙏

[@oryx-lordy87]

As much as i love a controller review, the most important part of the XBOX controller is not discussed and that is your bumpers, they are connected to a piece of plastic internally, which in a very short period of time wears down causing the bumpers to have significant delay. As much as the controller is fancy externally and provides plentiful of options, the internal make up is just of such poor quality. At the cost they charge, it is so disappointing. Then there is customer support, for such a large company, you expect Worldwide support, they do not provide such, so when your bumpers stop working, you have to buy a new controller if your outside of the USA. Shame really. Maybe review the actual game play side of the controller as opposed to how they look. SCUFF for example have many stick drift issues.

[@ChickenPopGames]

I hear your frustrations, this review was based on my gameplay experience, sadly the controllers were all pretty much new so I can’t comment on longevity. What I can do though is feedback at a later date if I have any issues. Thank you for your input and every comment is considered for future reviews. 🙏

[@DIG_Adxm]

Bro has the ps5 controllers paddles in wrong

[@ChickenPopGames]

Someone mentioned this already, I probably only did this on the video. Thanks for the observation 👌🙏

[@bradcruise6291]

​@@ChickenPopGamesI've noticed that you are so nice, polite, and positive with your responses even when people purposefully call you out or be mean. That's class. I can appreciate that

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@bradcruise6291thank you, I’ve still got lots to learn so I take all criticism as a learning point. ✌️😎

[@zZiL341yRj736]

They all sucked, I have a Dualsense with an ExtremeRate Rise4 kit for like $45. All of these cost $200+.

[@SleepyWindex]

None, Vader 3 pro

[@ChickenPopGames]

Definitely need to give this a go 👍

[@christardell8976]

Scuf is notorious for using cheaper material and terrible customer service…the controller is lighter because of the ass material and it doesn’t have dual sense tech or the adaptable trigger sense…

[@ChickenPopGames]

Personally I’ve not had any issues with their products, one thing I will do though is report back if it fails on me. Thanks for your input 🙏

[@eric8768]

Turn off that damn music bruv

[@ChickenPopGames]

Noted 🙏

[@dennisrogers6786]

The Elite and Xbox controllers are crap, compared to the Turtle Beach Stealth. Bye Bye stick drift.

[@ChickenPopGames]

Just got Turtle Beach Stealth, will review it against the SCUF envision and post shortly. 🙏👍

[@_Fox_Dye]

Scuf the biggest scam controller eva😂

[@ChickenPopGames]

Oh no! Give us some feedback, have you had a bad experience?

[@_Fox_Dye]

@ChickenPopGames yes, last me 5 months I pay over 200$ for it send it back for fix the issue got it back last 1 more month I trow it away and bought the one from best buy 60$ 3 years later still have it ..

[@ChickenPopGames]

@@_Fox_DyeThat’s really upsetting, I haven’t had this experience personally but that’s a real shame. 😢

[@Mussty95]

if its trash why everyone keep buying it?

[@phann42]

The only scam is the Xbox/ PS5 scuf versions. They feel cheap but the envision pro feels great and way better quality compared to their Xbox/PS5 Scuf's counterparts.

[@itzdcx7991]

all those garbage controllers are scams 💀

[@centrallfv]

Not a scam, but it’s not good for price for performance

[@Mussty95]

so are all these 200$ mouse/keyboards then

[@Fuckuree]

I have all 3 and just took the envision back , that controller should not even be on the market with all issues it creates with Icue