Sculpting Organics Vs Constructing Hard Surface

[@christopheyoungart]

I think I missed an important detail about sculpting organics with shading before adding the contour line. In older drawings where I approached it the other way around (drawing the contour line first and then shading) 99% of the time I found myself wanting to move the contour line afterward, basically fighting against all the work I already did. This isn't an issue anymore because the contour line is the LAST thing I design, capping it off.

[@ayan4697]

Yup, I noticed that in the Figure painting workshop. It's annoying having to liquify, move, transform the contour lines when you have made good progress in rendering it in the locked space of the contour, which looks unsatisfactory after a while likely due to wrong proportions and what not. I'll be doing this method instead of sculpting/painting the form first before the contour for organic objects! I really love the main brush you use in this video, but I don't think it's included in your current brush packs in gumroad... I wish you could upload a new brush pack set of your current brushes or even just this main one you use if possible. Much thanks, Chris!

[@christopheyoungart]

Sorry I ramble a lot hahaha. For a more concrete example of me drawing organic shapes from form to line, you can skip to 16:45, where I redraw a leg.

[@dmitryhuskov]

When listening you rambling it's way easier to get into ideas, you kind of show the whole thinking process behind it, not just a theory. For me personally, you're the best art teacher ever. Thank you so much for sharing your invaluable experience.

[@thez0285]

Please more of this, your work is my biggest inspiration

[@yokayoksven]

This is brilliant. Whenever I draw portraits I've noticed that drawing feels a lot more natural if I start with a very soft brush, it just comes out a lot easier, and I never understood why. And now it makes sense. Thank you for sharing this.

[@pepperwolf3819]

I've only watched a couple of your tutorials, but I've learned so much from them I know it ain't worth shit, but I wanna thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything you've taught me

[@adkuart]

Seeing how fast your'e drawing vest from imagination is crazy. You're such a genius and yes I'm saying after big investigation of different type of artists like Proko and others

[@Trid3nt861]

Hey Christophe Thanks for uploading these gems of artist gold. Everyone knows you didn't have to but the fact you did shows that you care about helping others struggling in their art journey. Keep it up brother!!!!

[@nerio1186]

No way! I was just watching your videos and suddenly, new content! Thanks a lot, Christophe!

[@Papuaani]

12:53 This is something I've always found troublesome with shapes like the ear or nose: It's really difficult to decide what lines to put down for the nose or ear without at least some kind of structural sketch (unless you're going for stylized look and use essentially a symbol for nose or ear). This is why it's often felt easier to first build the volume in one way or the other (I tend to build from primitive lines like you did with the cube here whereas you do it with tone) and lay down the actual contour lines only after.

[@gerimi]

Thanks for sharing this… I tend to be a "line first" artist, but I appreciate the sculptural aspect of starting with tone and your example inspires me to play with it more often.

[@ShniceFlakes]

Been waiting maan, welcome backk!

[@ayan4697]

Your videos sir, are always ones that conforms to what I'm struggling with and trying to learn, always spot-on. I have also been thinking about this on how to approach drawing but these rules about the organic and hard surface you have made which may seem simple, has mind-blown me. Please keep up the great work and thank you very much!

[@jamesgart321]

Amazing technique! Very very helpful & effective. Thanks!

[@AzuBetta]

Thank you so much for making these videos Mr.Young I love these drawing/painting process with in real time commentary, the steady pace and speed also help alot with try it out myself while watching and really understand what is being taught. I hope these videos will have alot more views because these are so underated.

[@egel2787]

never seen anyone explain this so clearly great vid

[@jros2721]

I found another thing that works on organic hard-surface the best, is actually not starting with line art, but starting with differences in values and colors, but with defined perimeters, this way you can utilize the brush roundness for rounded corners, and derive line work afterwards from the value blocks. And I'm saying this as someone who works on organic robots

[@ilikerandomstuffz]

Wow, I've been struggling with this exact same problem. I always want to sculpt with shading since I find it more fun than lines, but I found that it tended to make more drawing problems, so I thought I should learn a line drawing approach (and then when I started painting the drawing, I'd always want to change the contour and felt like I was fighting the drawing). I kept going back and forth between drawing and painting approaches, but now I see I can use both depending on the type of form. Thank you!

[@Fethennour]

Thank you Christophe.

[@tickets4war]

its great - eye opening to the thinking behind shapes !

[@ElvisDman]

Glad you got back! Your videos are always enlightening to watch! Thank you very much!

[@ron.1738]

Just when I needed you most, thank you

[@jordanmccarthy1633]

This is a valuable mindset.

[@BenjaminEnemy]

Very very interesting Christophe, thank you for sharing this in detail. The examples you added to demonstrate were really great and proved your point quite easily! I think that deep down I was kind of realising the same thing, but you made it super clear for me now!

[@eshlost5604]

Awesome explanation christophe, thanks. I would really appreciate a "how to use my brushes" video if you could. I do have your brush packs, but I'm slightly at a loss sometimes. I'm most confused about how can you achieve a seemingly flawless gradient effect while having a rather heavily textured brush.

[@Simo0040]

I was questioning the same thing . Then I notice that the size of the brush changes a lot of time during each brush stroke and he hasn’t the pressure on in the brush settings 😅 maybe the size of the brush make the stroke More soft or More hard depending on the size of it .

[@eshlost5604]

@Simo0040 No that's not why he change brush size. Smallest strokes are for hard transitions, but texture stays same regardless, it's simply how photoshop's texture works, even though it's in brush settings. It's really like a canvas texture instead

[@Simo0040]

I think u are right 😅, I still don’t get how he get that cool transitions in few strokes .

[@MTart96]

It feels like this was made for me, thank you

[@MarkDavidTeo]

This is a good idea. Thanks Christophe Young!

[@unicorn6187]

thank you so much for explanation!

[@Lizard1582]

the legend is back

[@DiogoTechugo]

Thank you for sharing this 💎! All your videos are very inspiring! There are other artists that follow the same principle, specially in organic shapes, to mention few Marcio Bucci and Bobby Chiu, but not on the level you do, you are a master!

[@Brndnerickson]

Thanks for sharing stuff like this!

[@14choidh]

loved this video! at 08:39 - how did you so quickly change the colour of the lines on the canvas? is it a macro?

[@dutelatte2154]

when the leg suddenly formed it was crazy, how fast can you just make it look so good

[@rockmsp_art]

Thank you so much for this amazing tutorial.😭🙏

[@N4A922]

Thank you!, thats very healpful, I love whatching your videos very inspiring

[@ggleyton]

Hola Cristophe: No puedo hacer el degradado al pintar con el pincel ya que al pasar sobre lo que he pintado oscurece sin hacerlo suavemente. Gracias por tus consejos. Saludos desde el Sur del Mundo, Chile

[@adverse811]

So Question Christophe, When it comes to the entire body do you not use lines anymore? Sort of laying it out with soft shapes and then contouring it as you go like with the leg example?

[@adverse811]

In the first example you showed you have organics with clothing over it. Would you first design the pose with soft shapes and go over it with the hard contour lines for the clothing ? I’m assuming it’s a mix of two but just curious how you would explain it and the process.

[@christopheyoungart]

For the figure I lay in the forms first with soft shapes. If I'm designing clothing on top I'll then draw those in with a contour line, reserving the interior for the sculpting approach. I only finalize the contour line of the body at the very end of the drawing after everything else is resolved.

[@adverse811]

@@christopheyoungart I see, and I assume for the face it’s the same deal since it’s organic. It’s just weird to think about approaching drawings without lines.

[@Najitaka]

@christopheyoungart Why do you need contour lines at all for the organic forms? Could you clean up like you do after you shade form, and let the clean background serve that purpose? Or do you want them expressly to help in the cleanup?

[@marcusaurelius647]

Thanks a lot for this video. I'm no where near at your level and find myself in an existential crisis as an artist because of the image AIs. But I find myself having the same thoughts. How can I most efficiently break down my drawing and rendering to little pieces of the process so that I can streamline and improve specific pieces of the process. Hearing someone as talented as you talk in depth about it is very much appreciated.

[@jros2721]

Awesome video as always, helps me to become better tutor as well !

[@Phrismo_Vekanandre]

I've bought your brushes and they proved to be very helpful when it comes to texturing and outline, but i cant never render smooth like yours like in 17:10 and in most of your videos as none of the brushes seem to have the same properties, do you use a different one?

[@slickwolf9805]

this is a fukin mystery bro i have purshase the brush pack but there i no fukin brush like the one he s using in all this video wtf is goin on ?

[@Phrismo_Vekanandre]

@@slickwolf9805 this brush was included in a old brush pack of him that was free on his ''figure drawing workshop part 1'' video, the link broke and he never seems to re-upload it, all of his video comments are flooded with questions about this brush and how to use them, it seems he doesn't do anything about it on purpose for some reason, i could somehow kinda replicate it, as he said on his video it is an textured airbrush with low density (about 50%), he also gave you tips like adjusting the angle of the brush according to your movements and etc, personally gave up looking for it, even if I had it I probably wouldn't know how to use, it looks easy to see him draw but he has ABSURD mastery in shading, color value and controlling pressure/brush size, but if you manage to find it somehow i wouldnt mind acquirint it too :)

[@OtaRyuzaki]

beyond helpful.

[@muiinw746]

Thank you so much for sharing

[@kdoggdracul]

Thank you for this! Just curious, do you have some specific tablet settings in order to get that very smooth and even tone with the airbrush? I notice your flow is at 100%, and I've always struggled with getting the "spots" of uneven tone when using this tool, making me avoid it.

[@mungunzah]

Kinda nuts how i had the very same experience, one random day i just had an epiphany and it all just clicked.

[@Eagerrr08]

great. thank you for sharing

[@aneebartist7207]

I want to learn your prosses of body proportions what was your guides for body proportions. your poses looks so dynamic even on standing pose. please teach.

[@hudaambani9277]

wonderful art

[@genexis_]

hey Christophe, I sent u an email after purchasing your brush set. Will u ever release a video on how u actually use the different brushes? Basically i know what the soft and hard brushes are for but maybe need more details on the rest =}

[@navoriitepesh4661]

Odly enough it somehow makes sense i like it ill try it and practice it

[@tabuena.fineart]

cool stuff

[@menacingskull740]

so basically in organic they have form that will decide the edges and for hard surfaces have edges that decides the form

[@alanavitoria9154]

Thank you!!

[@MTart96]

So I’m using your brush pack in Procreate(Only have an IPad) which brush was this? I wonder if mine works slightly different then yours.

[@slickwolf9805]

its a secret brush it is a louteed brush only available if your are a paladin level 60

[@ollbase9766]

This is the exact thing i never understood. From few curves with airbrush you doing photo realisting limb 😅.... how ? (I see how, it just tough for me to learn it)

[@BillPark-ey6ih]

I noticed that brain is more capable of filling in gaps of an almost convincing form. But brain is very bad at measurements. Thus, drawing contours is an anti pattern. A good solution, like you proposed, is to sculpt the form until it reaches a threshold where our brain can figure out the clear path to the desired image. It is the same reason we paint the canvas with a set color before painting anything. Reverse blurring is a powerful method. But the most general version would be "starting with the obvious" method, where we put down what seems most defined or obvious.

[@AWarmSnowflake]

Please ramble on youtube as much as you need, it's helpful to us viewers 😁

[@NotSionnix]

Hi Chris wanted to ask, what drawing tablet do you use? Thanks!

[@slickwolf9805]

where is this brush in you brush pack plz thank u

[@demeraracake4475]

The goat

[@tiagom.8772]

Hi, Christophe! If you wanna go really academic, I would suggest you a book on lines I found really interesting: "Lines: a brief history", by Tim Ingold.

[@hero-1o894]

Lovly vid

[@scifro]

- Huff puff - AM I LATE!?

[@abhishekbhambha5946]

which brush you had use

[@chocolatita6355]

basic soft brush with texture

[@Ardaur]

круто!! спасибо, крайне полезная информация!

[@youjustgothackedm8600]

The god

[@Ranvert.]

Bruh, you are not even moving the value range on your brush T_T likee HOOWWW?

[@dath.8932]

Thks alot!