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On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
00:00 Toronto isn't done yet!
1:05:00 You Can Bet That with Sports Interaction
1:11:30 Suspensions are coming for Alex Pietrangelo and Darnell Nurse
1:28:00 The Chicago Blackhawks win the right to draft Connor Bedard
1:43:00 Flyers name Keith Jones President of Hockey Operations and Daniel Briere General Manager
Recorded: May 11, 2023
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[@media_crone]

the first sdpn after a round two game win!

[@ArticulateAnodyne]

Making history!

[@Deans-jm3uf]

And last!

[@AssumeAssassin]

Nashville Predators banner:

[@dickbiggerjr3613]

Hey at least the Marlies are still alive 😂😂😂

[@zamboniman69]

Makar's hit = 2 mins and a game suspension. Eberle's hit on Cogliano = Hey, bad boy. Go sit down. Gudas' hit = No, that's fine

[@timisthebest]

Love the new set guys, but you desperately need some overhead down lighting directly above you out of frame. The entire studio is very dark.

[@y2josh319]

As someone who wasted a decade of his life working for Comcast, I can confirm the "too many hands in the cookie jar" phenomenon is company-wide.

[@Bozzz71]

Can we at least name the light that is always creeping its reflection in on the TV? Might as well at this point 😂

[@dickbiggerjr3613]

Brighter than Adam will ever be

[@breeali23]

16:04 Thank you for pointing this out, Jesse, and for the following discussion, Steve. Eakins & the panel's comments on Bunts after getting high sticked and bleeding was entirely enraging. The guy cannot get a break no matter how much penance he pays to the hockey men.

[@vacantalleyways]

Its not comcast spectator... Its Comcast spectacor (speck-ta-core)... After like 3 podcasts talking about this I had to say something, it was driving me crazy lol

[@mobailey6666]

“they wrote ass?!” 😂

[@LulRazzles]

I've grown up in Bracebridge my entire life & I gotta say, it's so fricken cool to see Muskoka Brewery poppin' off! Love that you guys took on this sponsorship, warms my heart!

[@nonoman305]

I have a long drive tomorrow I should save this episode for but I can’t I gotta hear the boys cheered up a bit

[@Hockeyhobo89]

Just got to take it one game at a time. I’m glad we didn’t get swept but our home playoff record is horrible.

[@TheBigfootsfeet]

I know Mrazek wasn’t good with the leafs but he was without a doubt the best player on the Blackhawks this season. He got shelled every game and kept them in and won more games than the Hawks should have

[@evanmarr7847]

1:18:12 Jesse predicted the Pietrangelo suspension lol

[@G4rr3ttDix0n]

33:53 - This was exactly how I felt when my bolts were down 1-3 after outplaying the leafs through every game except game 2.

[@averymerlo4499]

Call me crazy, but I actually have faith in the new Flyers front office. I believe the new guys will actually fight back againsts the big 3 and do what they think is right. The “New Era of Orange” thing is incredibly stupid though.

[@ThriftShopHockey]

1:59:33 “Chuck Fletcher: Hero or Menace??” had me dying. That needs to be on a shirt as SDPN merch pronto

[@imsocoolitscrazy]

Hey, honest question: Steve, are you able to share anything from the Sportslogiq stats? Like, are they sending you stats but only to you, or you can't share them at all? Just feels like there could be really interesting things to highlight from those stats if you guys wanted to or were allowed to!

[@Mike-vx3ld3il7w]

Gudas hit is textbook charging. Charging is when a player: - Jumps to check an opponent. - Builds up speed by taking two or more strides immediately prior to making contact. - Travels an excessive distance with the sole purpose of delivering such a hit. - Violently and unnecessarily checks an opponent in any manner. - Delivers a body check to an opponent’s blind side.

[@lizfox7154]

Adam really needs to utilize that low NPR voice more often. It's all very zen.

[@mikekerr5843]

Definitely, looking forward to this one. My Dangle pics suck so bad.

[@BigBore525x]

They upheld the Nurse suspension.

[@MrMCruso]

I try not to yell at the TV, but the beginning of the first period was hard to watch because the Leafs wouldn’t finish a hit. Within minutes of them taking it to the boards, the game shifted in our direction. GO LEAFS!

[@jamesknight8412]

Agreed, I found myself every 10 seconds shouting “hit him”, “why are you scared” 😂

[@CJ-oj8om]

@@FrankD23right like please throw a punch. You’d think he’d get tired of acting like a B

[@stephbelec9666]

I love you guys

[@krushingkobra]

One ball away isn't necessarily as close as you think: Balls are numbered 1 to 14. If you're only assigned one of the remaining numbers, you have a 1/14 chance (~7.1%) Obviously your team might have several winning combinations, but each winning ball gives you ~7/1% more. Without knowing which teams were assigned all of the remaining numbers, there's no way to know how close your team came.

[@SgtDexterGrif]

The flyers are the DEFINITION of “the Boys Club”, quoting Urinating Tree. This is a JOKE. Lmao

[@joshpalmer3155]

What an exhausting episode to listen to. Negativity on top of negativity.

[@Talancir]

"Punch them back?" I thought you frowned on psychopathy, Steve.

[@luc0007]

fr lol

[@rickyaz8640]

Hey, after 7 years the man has learned

[@Talancir]

@Ricky AZ no, earlier in this series in his LFRs he was shaking a finger at us psychopaths for wanting to see some hockey during Fight Night in Canada.

[@99bobbyv]

This was hilarious! Jesse clean up your wires bro😂

[@AJEDDY97]

The whole owner's executive dommittee reeks of "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" from Animal Farm.

[@safertobeanonymous2224]

Only in the NHL do Nurse and Alex get THE SAME DAMN SUSPENSION!!!! How was that balanced!

[@kevinbrunt]

The longer this series goes on it greatly reminds me of how the refs were calling the Vancouver and Boston series in 2011.

[@Marixa1979]

As an Oilers fan, if Marner is the first to go from the Leafs, that is just the best. There's no way the Leafs get better if you commit to Matthews over Marner, but hey, what do I know, I just watch all the Leafs games as well as many other teams and it's so clear that Marner is the driver.

[@theSoundOfAWomanWhoLovesYou]

He definitely was the leafs best player this past season, but the problem with the team as a whole is consistency. You can point to almost any player on this team and find a game or where they were the best Toronto player on the ice as well as games where they played horribly and led to a loss. If you ask me, getting rid of one player wont fix the issue no matter who it is because the system as a whole needs to be thrown out. All of the players on this team are incredibly capable, but they never show up as a team when they need to.

[@TheWorstShowEver1]

This season is not over

[@sameerchauhan9373]

He is the best Leaf coming from a Leafs fan myself, I don’t understand the Marner hate with this fanbase, Matthews always gets a pass for being a ghost

[@REDNightShade31]

Finally! Fans that understand how VALUABLE Marner is to this team. I never understood the Marner hate either. It's like Leaf fans are so blind. Marner has been the Leafs best player for a few years now. He pretty much does it all for this team except play goalie and yet people still don't see his worth. He's our best setup man in PP, he's our best Penalty Killer, he's easily a 90+ (dare I say 100+ point player easy), he can get you 30 goals. When another of the core 4 is on a slump what do they do? They put Marner on their line. What more do people want from him. You can tell he loves this team and does it all. Trading away Marner would be the BIGGEST mistake Leafs ever make.

[@thebeatleswin1]

“What more do people want from him” Idk, maybe him to not buckle in most big games

[@rearct8844]

The comments about "it's never the stars who aren't looked out for"- that's not universally true. The US women's gymnastics situation proves that being a star doesn't necessarily protect someone from egregious violations, and stars are absolutely still subject to systemic issues- being expected to play through injury, having the team decide on their medical decisions.

[@CheapSeatsSports]

There actually is a documentary about the Russian team that lost to the US in 1980 and it is really good.

[@michaelquigley2657]

Ovechkin drafted 2005- Stanley Cup 2018

[@TheBigfootsfeet]

04* Crosby was 05

[@ODSTGodzilla]

Hilarious you guys you think Mitch was laughing when he was actually crying to the ref 🤣

[@Hockeyhobo89]

lol the Negan reference at 1:24:16

[@spriteisawesome]

Low key disappointed the video title wasn't a reference to Jelle's Marble Runs

[@MikeRC21]

Petition to get Adam to stop pronouncing David Kampfs name like the title of a Hitler book

[@dickbiggerjr3613]

Mein David

[@Krokodilius]

mats sundin also has 4 viking awards, which is given by sweden to their mvp each year....i think they stopped giving it out cuz nylander would've had 1-2 by now.

[@erikwehrmann3219]

Would you guys consider doing dangle picks next regular season, even without the sign jersey, it's too much fun to just do this playoffs

[@KevinJL]

Chris Pronger signed Whalers jersey now that would be a prize

[@tobris6809]

Guys... It's the Flyers, the title of the show is Flyve for Fighting

[@sojiroseta98]

Leafs are not the most hated team at all, leafs FANS are the most hated lol, the Bruins still hold the title for most hated TEAM for multiple reasons....leafs fans saying they are the most hated is a perfect example of why we hate them, full of themselves for no damn reason, it is what it is...

[@AR-wm9lv]

Holy crap. I'm excited for game 5. Go Leafs Go!

[@dickbiggerjr3613]

How'd it go ?

[@AR-wm9lv]

@@dickbiggerjr3613 I had a good time. It was a really exciting game

[@dickbiggerjr3613]

@@AR-wm9lv you poor bastard, the leafs have broken your brain haven't they ?

[@AstonMonks]

Steve’s J Jonah Jameson impression was spot on

[@silgarf]

Lol adam saying leafs didint open the scoring but they scored first lol I'm confused

[@jonpomerance-trifts6113]

14:30 the shorty spreadsheet....why is Lafferty in twice?

[@Musicandi91]

1:19:24 Basically what adam is saying "Alright superstars you made it to the playoffs now so may the odds be ever in your favor"

[@bustywaifus]

You guys were wrong about Nurse, he did get suspended lol.

[@francoislabelle6273]

Jesse I like when you say in the same phrase Willy and PiPi Xp

[@slapshot_68]

Call me crazy, but as a Flyers fan, I’m somewhat optimistic. I think Briere is a really smart guy and would’ve been better than any of the recently fired squad (Hextall, Treliving, etc.). He’s the first guy in charge of the Flyers for a while to mention the word rebuild. As for Keith Jones, I really just hope that he’s able to do his job without interference from the “wise men”. I think if that happens, he’ll be fine. I also don’t understand why people are complaining that both these guys previously played for the Flyers. The guy they just fired in Fletcher didn’t, which people seem to somewhat be forgetting, so does playing for the team or not really make a difference? Both these guys seem at the very least more competent compared than Fletcher as well as being extremely passionate so I say just give them a chance

[@jonpomerance-trifts6113]

I think there are some teams with such a strong identity that it becomes important to have management who are ex-team. The Broad Street Bullies are just such a team. That said, I never thought Hextall was right for the job. But nobody asked me.

[@jonasgorea3823]

As a neutral fan both playoff games were just tainted With god awful reffing. This is a textbook example of losing control of games

[@johnnyglenn2692]

Has anyone ever said, .....you can't spell belief without leaf

[@CriticalxMiss]

This is me! I am that habs fan 38:09

[@shawnooweldsparks4202]

ok !

[@muhammadelias9857]

Montour was the one to get back on that 4 on 1. That should have resulted in a goal lol.

[@grgas]

Mats sundin has a gold medal. Thats hardware

[@andrewdh9898]

WHY IS THE TV IN THE TABLE CURVED FOR THE LOVE OF THE NEW JERSEY STATE LOTTERY

[@jamiesucie2685]

It’s funny how wrong they turned out to be regarding the Nurse suspension. Should’ve been 2 at least for the slash on Leon.

[@markkinz7913]

The Gudas hit got Makar a suspension. How he's not suspended is ridiculous.

[@larryditkoff7058]

Here's the reason i thought the series was not over. Toronto was outplaying them in those games and is a better team. I am looking forward to tonight's game and pulling for the Leafs. While I maybe should put this comment on dangits is how bad does Siegenthaler feel today? "Over the glass" leads to the end of the season

[@PuckNutty]

The last time the Hurricanes won a series off an over the glass penalty they won the Cup.

[@Mordraith]

is the problem with the core or is it the guy in the suit behind the bench?

[@DougieSA]

But Lafferty was on that list twice!

[@Danglebot]

Bouchard has had one bad game defensively all playoffs and these goofballs saying he needs to "step it up". Man has 15 points and has been impactfull literally everywhere on the ice.

[@nighth00d95]

If you try to kill someone and they live it's not still considered murder.

[@GoYouDeepSeaMonsters]

It will be rare that I'll see Connor Bedard play because of the stupid blackout bologna that Iowa hockey fans go though. No Minnesota, St Louis or Chicago games for us because we can go ahead and drive 4, 5 and 5 and a half hours to see one of the teams in adjoining states. That's why I became a Kraken fan.

[@grgas]

I thought this was the San Diego padres network

[@PunchDrunkTank]

Boy I can't wait for Parros to leave the D.P.S. so that the next repeat offender and consistent rule breaker can be in charge of enforcing rules and player safety. This freakin' league...

[@rileystone3017]

Lafferty name listed twice on that list,,,?

[@whoopass2rb]

Sorry Adam, you are dead wrong on the best leaf from round 1. That was Rielly 100% and it's not even close. Dude stepped up his game, fought and was getting involved in the mess. He threw big hits (shocking I know) and played better defensively, blocking shots and breaking up rush chances. He was way better in the 2 way play. He had great first passes and zone exits, so far as being one of the only capable leafs on the backend to exit the zone through skating or passing. He stepped up and said the right things and he found ways to position himself better defensively than he had all year. Top this with how Rielly has consistently shown up in playoffs year over year, you can't argue who is TOR's best player in the 1st round. He's even playing well enough for consideration this 2nd round, you know, if they do the thing. Everyone always wants to say that teams need their "hedman"' type players in order to win. Well I think Rielly has done enough and proven enough this year to be considered comparable. Sure not as good but exactly what the leafs need right now and delivering. People need to start giving Rielly his dues. He's also the only one of the "core" who took a discount. Sure he's making more than Nylander but sorry, he's your top pair D, and has been for years. He's your best D skill / talent wise and has been for years. He's playing D as a position and on average 10 more minutes a game than Nylander so like... of course he should make more. The fact it's not substantially more should tell you something about how valuable he is to this team. In another world, I would believe Rielly could have been Captain of the leafs. And let's face it, leafs missed a golden chance to literally have "Captain Morgan" for years as a saying. There's still time when JT hands it over.

[@jebusdiabetis]

The tv glare isn't terrible :)

[@seancaroll4483]

I know y'all will be busy but please talk about the Canes next episode.

[@AGreatDayForHockey]

The Pietrangelo defenders remind me of the same who defended Scheifele when he skated the length of the ice to deck Jake Evans, after scoring an empty net goal. There was no need to re-watch the footage a dozen times to know intent. He was angry and he wanted to hurt him. Simple as that. One game wasn't enough.

[@Chris-zf9zj]

When you are so early its 144p :)

[@christopherrose4058]

I want to point out. My fiancé and I are getting married in August. I’ve been a rangers fan for 15+ years. My fiancé is a huge Flyers fan, as is my uncle. And my future father in law is a Huge Devils fan. My father also lives in North Carolina, so I’m also a Hurricanes fan. So me and my father in law have been going at it.

[@johnnywilson9972]

Steve pulling out conspiracies from 2011 was PEAK leafs fan

[@powwowken2760]

I think a lot of the advanced stats stuff you guys were talking about is actually a case of pushback. When you have everyone moaning and bitching about how the Leafs suck and the Panthers are amazing while ignoring the reality in front of their face it's only natural to point out how badly the Leafs spanked the Panthers everywhere but the scoreboard. I have no issue with the idea that results are all that matter but at the same time you can't cry about how "the Leafs lost because they suck and suck because they lost" when that's 100% false (at least for games 1 & 2, game 3 was a pathetic trainwreck).

[@damienberest5856]

I agree that the Core's mix doesn't work. They individually may all get their rings on separate teams, but not together. In playoff situations, they need babysitters and wont stand for one another. McJesus was prepared to get rough on behalf of Leon, none of the 4 would do it for their line-mates (see the reaction to Knies being dropped......) And from a fan's perspective, I would not have been as mad about them being 3 down, if they had shown some pushback. Prevented from playing + can't fight = will not go anywhere together.

[@BarnesGannon]

Watch the Holl penalty back, boys. He barely touched the guy.

[@jonahthawne913]

@2:07:14 Orange Appeal

[@MrModernMarvels]

quibi lmao

[@MichaelSchwerdtfeger]

bettman gave conor bedard to the black hawks!!

[@TakeItEasyJono]

you thought the holl cross check was blatant? haha..his stick broke when someone backed into him.. that was a horrible call.

[@CaptainCanada14]

my prediction was the NHL was going to pick the spineless option and give both guys 1 game, and I'm so frustrated that I was right

[@almuthebebrand7487]

Agree pathetic job...Nurse didn't throw his gloves first and suffered 6-7 punches before fighting back...that should not be investigating...Pietro on the other side clear attenot to injure...this is a bush league🤮🤮

[@briannewton971]

I'm not sure if you blow it up that Mathews resigns.

[@Jrodsly]

Those Flyers press releases scream "guy that fucked up a relationship several times tries to convince his partner that he's finally changed" to me. I can't see anything changing until the whole structure of the organization changes. Too bad Comcast doesn't really care to change anything.

[@jmarx3943]

In that whole cluster-mess, Comcast Spectacore is the biggest contributing factor in the degradation of the franchise. I agree with you 100% that if they insist on handling things their way, nothing changes.

[@Tragicsnipes91]

It is whining because in Gm 1 against Tampa he was complaining that the Leafs lost and didnt put up a fight at the end of the game. But when another team puts up a fight, thats a no-no, shouldnt be allowed. Not the other teams faults that the Leafs cant take a piece out of a team when they lose

[@mitch2764]

What is the brand of shirt Jesse is wearing. I see that dog all the time.

[@wilseph1]

Pizza Nova!

[@Razre]

I'm sorry, but as a Red Wings fan who has been around since the glory days, if I found out the organization was covering up the kind of assault the Blackhawks were, I'd find a new team to root for.

[@HighCharityYT]

wild how toronto gave up in the stretch pass when other teams have won cups on their stretch passes. Also, if the lottery was rigged, both of McDavid and Matthews would be on US-based Metro teams. As a hawks fan, it would have been karmically hilarious if chicago dropped to 5th

[@flyguy905]

watching this after they still suspended nurse for one and game and only gave one game to pietrangelo. my god parros needs to be brought out back and you know what......

[@tegridyfarmz]

Toe drag release

[@BrotherAlpha]

46:00 ... Can you ask Matt Murray to 'retire' and just put him on LTIR for the rest of the contract? BTW, he has an above average saver percentage this year. He was unplayable, because he has a niggling injury.

[@MarcusTheHeard19]

If the Leafs trade Marner they can go to hell quite honestly

[@johanjarvinen]

Conspiracy theory peddling gets the thumbs down, Steve.

[@robertholston4708]

Remember when you said Evander Kane should be kicked out of NHL for not getting the jab?

[@lonewolfpoetics]

Total PIMs Leafs Round 2 Game 1) Toronto 2min Flordia 10min Game 2) Toronto 2min Flordia 6min Game 3) Toronto 4min Flordia 0min Game 4) Toronto 6min Flordia 4min By Period Game 1) Toronto 1st 2 2nd 0 3rd 0 Game 1) Florida 1st 4 2nd 2 3rd 4 Game 2) Toronto 0/2/0/0 Game 2) Florida 0/4/2/0/ Game 3) Toronto 0/4/0/0 Game 3) Flordia 0/0/0/0 Game 4) Toronto 2/2/2/0* Game 4) Florida 0/4/0/0* Total PIMs Toronto = 14 minutes* Florida = 20 minutes* * Does not include penalties assesst after game end

[@jonpomerance-trifts6113]

Totally disagree that Marner would be first to go. Nylander and Matthews would be the guys first on the auction block.