Do Or Die | The Steve Dangle Podcast

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
00:00 The Toronto Maple Leafs are down 0-3 to the Florida Panthers
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1:02:30 the Devils put up a snowman versus the Hurricanes
1:06:00 Seattle's depth scoring beats Dallas
1:10:30 Edmonton takes game 2 over the Golden Knights
1:19:00 Where will Connor Bedard land?
1:30:30 Keefe and Dubas
1:38:30 Red Dead Redemption 2 lore
Recorded: May 8, 2023
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[@Hawkeye-4077]

The leafiest outcome would be them tying it up only to lose in game 7

[@CP_SplitTheDefense]

My girlfriend said this today 😭

[@Merc306.]

Theyll take 4 and 5 lose in 6

[@people3865]

I been telling that one all day 😂😂😂 3 OT wins then an 11-0 loss in game 7, at home

[@Dawg476]

Overtime

[@Wuwoot9863]

Dont forget the goalie on the other end. Florida legend ALEX LYON.

[@willbobig]

“They don’t want it. They don’t skate, they don’t score, they don’t hit, they don’t fight, they float. They don’t hate to lose.”

[@chebatenaley2134]

if ya cant win dont play! 😂 leafs need to go out and sign Jim, Jim and Jim for real

[@LightSpeedRecords]

Mannnn sadly the whole game I was yelling at the tv “LAY THEM OUT FOR KNIES” AND IT NEVER HAPPENED WTF

[@VED34]

it’s so sad because this is such an accurate way to describe this core. Time to move on

[@willbobig]

@@VED34 All I could think of during G3 was this scene. Resonates with me real hard. Nuke the core.

[@showdown2006]

@@chebatenaley2134 so y’all 3 are named Jim?

[@scallaghan61]

pure Steve depression until the pizza

[@nolananderson4782]

The Leafs and finding new devastating ways to lose in the playoffs, name a more iconic duo

[@B2Roland]

It isn't new. The leafs are a joke. The rest of the league doesn't even think about them.

[@jacobfleenor1714]

Speaking of O'Reilly being susceptible to the locker room bad vibes - same thing in buffalo. different bad vibes but he's for sure impacted by the guys around him

[@ADragonNamedSpyro]

Bennett, Tkachuck and Cousins have shook the leafs core, Theyre playing like they just got their ass kicked by the school bully and they came back for lunch money the next day/game

[@katienoelle97]

And this is the Kraken without McCann or Burakovsky!

[@philtorrez4198]

Kraken have serious depth, something that matters in the playoffs!! Who knew!?!?!?

[@people3865]

​@@philtorrez4198Not Dubas! Lol

[@jameson1239]

@@people3865 the leafs depth is the only reason they scored last game

[@act_morris]

“Don’t do that please, this is a brand new table” 😂😂😂

[@solaireflaire7113]

Jesse becoming an eye test guy, absolutely losing his mind here

[@yardsaler5417]

Jesse’s been out to lunch like twice a pod for a year on his takes on players

[@StonedSpagooter]

@@yardsaler5417 Jesse has never had great takes he just always jumps in with common sense we are all thinking when one of the other says something stupid

[@ddmath]

Thanks, I needed a laugh to start this show. No matter how bad, or whatever, we all need to remember that it's just a game folks.

[@wilseph1]

Someone cue up the Ilya Bryzgalov clip!

[@709mash]

Hear hear.

[@DonutsRgud13]

Why heff to be med?

[@wookiev344]

Millions of dollars, people also depends on jobs of playoffs. Umm it's an elite league. Not a beer league. Just a game??? Lmaoo found the poser😂😂😂

[@DonutsRgud13]

@@wookiev344 all of that based on a game bud. Get your priorities straight and stay in school

[@basedvisa]

I miss the panego pizza presents in the intro

[@powwowken2760]

I think Dubas probably keeps his job at the end of the year, although it might only be a short extension. Keefe on the other hand has coached his way out the door in my opinion, all of his systems were easily solved in both rounds and yet he doesn't seem to make any adjustments, let alone have a real backup plan. The best example is the drop-pass focused breakout is getting torn apart by Florida, so what do we do? Ice the puck repeatedly while trying for low-percentage stretch passes... That's all we've got? REALLY?!

[@theSoundOfAWomanWhoLovesYou]

I agree with all of your complaints about Keefes coaching, but the issue with that is how closely related he and Dubas are. I don't think we will see Dubas sans Keefe for an extended period of time, which is unfortunate as Dubas really proved himself to be a capable GM this trade deadline.

[@jameson1239]

So I was looking at coaches available if they let keefe go and the one that really stood out was Bruce Cassidy

[@LetsGoWrongboarding]

@@RG-lr4pk he would say that, that's his current coach

[@erikmacaluso]

​@@RG-lr4pk"the same guy who can't build a winning team said his coach is one of the best coaches of the last fifteen years" lmfaoooooooo

[@owenbell852]

The 52:13 joke about the Toronto couples and the rings was a good joke, I laughed :) And, go habs go!

[@Kraken_What]

I’m happy Steve is FINALLY losing his blinders on the Kraken! CPA last night was the loudest I’ve heard an arena in a very long time!!!

[@bunsw2070]

Climate Promise Area. Sounds like a bathhouse exclusively for bottoms. Should be The Krack House.

[@JeremySeago]

The "which team shouldn't get the #1 pick" segment aged like milk immediately. I'm surprised none of you mentioned Kyle Beach

[@mattwynn6190]

The Pinkerton/MTG factoid might be my most favorite tidbit of information I've ever heard on this pod

[@joshbehehe]

That blue lipstick bit completely jinxed leaf’s nation. Damn box head

[@Hockeyhobo89]

I’m honestly scared of what this team will look like next year.

[@mathesonrittenhouse]

Worst, and therefore likeliest, scenario: Leafs win next two games, management decides losing in six isn't so bad and nothing changes.

[@lpquagmire3621]

The Leafs got out of the first round for the first time in almost 20 years; that's something to build on for next season.

[@shawnagar6016]

if swept there might be some changes to this teams core...

[@idk2865]

yeah sorta think we wont be good next season lol idk

[@Merc306.]

​@@mathesonrittenhousebeen sayin this!

[@InsignificantNick]

Going from an ASMR video to this will be intense.

[@TarekHabs]

been waiting for this pod all day 😂

[@tayj1008]

When Adam 1st mentioned Pizza i thought Panago was coming back

[@maxpayne9041]

Suffering for a full year really sucks fans want a reason to be happy for once i think we deserve it.

[@metalmaiden]

Drove a work van around Toronto with 435,000km on it. It burned oil, the brakes cut out, the rear leaf spring broke through the floor, and the back door didn't lock. I kinda miss it

[@lastsinnersa8002]

Well, the Blackhawks got Bedard...One wonders whether the reaction to Game 4 or the Blackhawks getting Bedard will be the more explosive reaction in the next podcast.

[@DonutsRgud13]

It’s good to see these guys continue after all these years still supporting Toronto amateur hockey. Good on ya guys 😂

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

It hurts. The pain is real. Irrational, yet very real. But there was solace to be found in this episode of commiseration. Thank you, kind sirs.

[@ThatsBadTV]

Adam absolutely nailed and summed up exactly how I feel just before the first segment ended

[@TrueCanadianTV]

Been waiting for this since the game ended

[@F34RTHED34DMAN]

Biggest american fan reporting for duty😂

[@philtorrez4198]

Cheers bud!

[@armthesharks6904]

I'm at least top 5

[@CatarinaPereira-op9pd]

I know that this would be miraculous but what a story if the Leafs had a comeback. I know…..I’m rolling my eyes as I write this.

[@Kraken_What]

I’m happy Steve is FINALLY losing his blinders on the Kraken!! CPA last night was the loudest I’ve heard an arena in a long time!

[@sc1344]

That b nice, but there is no way in hell. Hell, theres no way they win the next game

[@Trustkillx]

The curse is the blue lipstick hahah

[@markdotinc8371]

Absolutely insane that im hearing these guys talk about "bad behaviour" without even a whisper of the Chicago Blackhawks

[@drfirewater]

I would lovethe story if woll comes in and wins the series. A rookie goaltender saving the day would be the story of the century

[@ryanbreeze2312]

Core memory unlocked from Steve’s shirt!

[@randysgutful]

Keefe is definitely done here. I'm not sure how many times he needs to see this same story play out before realising playoff hockey is different. As for the players, its just a shame our two very best guys can never elevate their game when it matters. That equals failure every time. Other teams have stars that explode in the playoffs, ours trip over themselves. 9 years of the Shanaplan and we're frankly no closer to winning anything.

[@motelbobby4104]

9 years and we're better off with bozak and dion? Give your head a shake jeez everyone so hyperbolic all the time no wonder leaf fans are such an embarassment all the time

[@jasonlippert747]

i fell that the kinship with the Minnesota Wild growing by the second lol. I'm pulling for you guys as always. I love wathcing your team, and hate what I'm seeing right now because it is so familiar to me as a Wild fan.

[@jimlangdon1947]

One more win together - before Leaf Core 4 get smart enough to destroy the Core 4 playoff disappointments. 😀 Go Leafs go!

[@jeremyfaller4338]

Definitely wasn't me, refreshing for 45 minutes for this one... 😂

[@wilseph1]

Steven aggressively eating the Pizza Nova wing.

[@jakerossi5805]

A little bit of a nit pick about this episode, was the fooling around with the mic volumes too much. Its been happening for a few episodes now.

[@CrimsonRaven]

They keep ranting and raving about the Kraken's depth: McCann has been skating and might be back soon.

[@MichaelSchwerdtfeger]

got to have heart lots and lots of HEART!!!!

[@rayevans7484]

There are dirty areas on the ice.....the Leafs top 6 have no interest in going to any of them.

[@wavydavy6255]

That’s just a lie outside nylander

[@PunkEng013]

My brother and I started using fiddlidipoo as a verb, which means to blow some huge great thing by some small but really bad other thing. Like, for example, the Bruins just fiddlidipooed the greatest season in NHL history.

[@TheFusionmix]

Bobrovsky looked at Playoff Philip Grubauer and went "oh hey I can do that too"

[@RetroCruze]

I couldnt even bring myself to watch the LFR

[@deltagolavista1]

1:21:00 The Montreal Canadiens did not improve their draft standing last year since they finished last, so they can still 'win' the lottery 2 more times in 5 years. The Devils, who picked second, (and now the Blackhawks) however are effected by the 5 year rule.

[@jessecarroll2229]

"Who is Sam Bennett"? LoL. The real one!

[@mightymacaque]

When you started the pizza sponsor part, Nova wasn't the company i was expecting. They're pretty good though.

[@InsignificantNick]

37:11, that was an all-time "yeah" from Jesse.

[@cowgrrrlll]

this cats knights final is gonna be nuts lol

[@spencerabdo5144]

I love being in California and hearing these adds. Like “Damn, I should add a dip to my order. You know, from the pizza joint half a continent away from me.”

[@RichardCalder67]

Also unfortunately they have lost 4 games in a row once this season, the western road trip. VGK, SJS, LAK and ANA, they haven't lost 4 in regulation, but OT actually matters in the playoffs :(

[@albionredzepovski3096]

Congrats on the Pizza Nova sponsor!! I know the team that built and manages their website!!

[@roguewavecreative]

this is so funny. I know it’s schtick but it’s like SNL hockey. Meet the new boss same as the old boss. This is how this team has consistently played almost since the beginning. Consistency. That’s it. Plus, Florida is doing a really good job of mucking it up and BOB right now is bobbing:)

[@b0ssbeerreviews83]

In 9 years, the last Leafs cup is eligible for seniors pension.

[@mgguygardening]

Question if anyone knows....how do I find the draft lottery on Sports Interaction?

[@A1-Franksauce]

Here's a thought. The defense pairings aren't working. How about maybe um, we switch it? Rielly - Brodie Gustafsson - Holl Gio - Mccabe

[@Magicalmetric]

This "gun to the earth" meme is my favourite.

[@TheBassistSOTD]

Adam didn’t have to come at me that hard with the pre breakup 😢

[@etienneroussel6926]

There are many ways to win a series. They just chose the toughest.

[@johanjarvinen]

Impressive how quick it's been forgotten and forgiven that the Canadiens drafted Logan Mailloux in the first round in 2021. How are they not up there with Chicago as the worst team to reward right now?

[@jameson1239]

Drafting a 17 year old who was convicted of defamation and “offensive photography” and paying a $1650 fine for sharing a partners nudes without her consent is a little bit different from an entire organization systematically covering up a coach raping a player for over half a decade. there’s a scale of bad and those two things are nowhere close.

[@frasergerrard9651]

The Milkiest outcome would be Steve Dangle coming in as an e-bug and shutting Florida the f down. And then Steve chugging a galon of milk on live tv. Milky Leafs for the win!!!!!!!!!

[@dieno27]

The leafs were literally lucky against the lightning. Then the luck ran out

[@jaskiranbedi1]

Played on decent at times but found ways. G2 played well and then that come back from 4-1 down. Otherwise was pretty much making their own luck and at least trying. Now they look like they can’t buy an ounce of work

[@LightSpeedRecords]

That’s why it was 4-2

[@LightSpeedRecords]

That’s why they got 111 points in the season ok bud

[@slipperynodd578]

@@LightSpeedRecords they were the worse team in 4 of the 6 games, how would regular season points have ANYTHING to do with the playoffs.

[@zardeth9591]

We want Florida 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Let's add this to "It was 3-1"

[@RichardCalder67]

lol "why isn't a better guy ever the coach's guy?" Mitch Marner enters the chat

[@morganlsmusic]

Mitch Marner saying you can’t get frustrated.. has apparently never needed something enough to understand there needs to be a feeling of added pressure or a “frustrated” situation to change. We haven’t brought up the definition of insanity why?

[@vampirefroggie]

Confirm on John Lester lol loved him on the Cubs tho

[@Rob78169]

Lol. Cant believe Marner after the game said... Got lots of looks, just not falling in!! Are you kidding me.

[@sc1344]

Talk about being delusional

[@BandyAndysExcellentEssays]

Toronto was determined to win the absolute minimum number of games to make Toronto riot, which is 4😂

[@logand3957]

At 1:10:05 I need to know who they picked out of CAR vs NJD and EDM vs VGK thanks 😂

[@razorwire3056]

Game 4 is not a do or die game. Game 3 was. Can they still do it? I believe they can. I believe in this team. But for the first time in my life, during the fifth game against Tampa, I said to my wife, "If they can't do this, I'm done. If they don't care about us enough to do this, then why should I care about them? If they don't win this series, I'll never watch another hockey game." And here we are. After round one was over, I thought, New York, Boston, Tampa, Colorado.... they're all gone.... all the Leafs roadblocks are gone. There is no way they don't win the Stanley Cup this year. And again, here we are. It's almost like they think winning the first round is enough for us. I said to someone today, they all collected their final paychecks the last week of the regular season. Maybe they don't like playing for free..... I love this team, but there isn't a single player that I love more than the team. They do not need a re-build. But something needs to be done. They grit and heart. They need a Doug Gilmour or a Wendell Clark. This summer, I would offer Auston Matthews for Matthew Tkachuk. I'd keep Marner because I believe if you put him on a line with two well trained chimpanzees, they'd both score, 30 goals. They'll never get value for Tavares, but I'd do what I could to get rid of his cap hit. And Murray is dead weight and I'd try to trade him for a 25 year old Giordano, if he even exists. This hockey club has done this before. Go Leafs.

[@chadwodraska2607]

Different between Toronto and Kraken is heart and balls

[@krisn9704]

Honestly rather see you guys happy eating pizza then talking about the leafs. :)

[@stevenlopez1717]

If you were GM, would you execute a one-for-one trade, Marner for Tkachuk? I sure as hell would...

[@davidedwards6308]

Jesse yelling about analytics being bad while claiming they exist for a purpose that they 100% are not actually designed for is a *chef's kiss*

[@danieldosso2455]

Bedard's going to the Windy City

[@wilseph1]

Let them eat, Adam Wylde!

[@JasonBurnsStuartMcleoud]

Steve Avery called it as well ~

[@aaamm4010]

Man I take this Krakens team over the leafs any day of the week they are a pleasure to watch

[@aaamm4010]

@@theseanie9958 for a second year team simply amazing , you are correct it's none stop

[@usf1250]

If you are a person that believes in superstitions..Jesse did say the leafs would sweep whomever was the winner of boston/Florida

[@ngrosskurth]

42:00 I'm pretty sure the Bruins didn't lose 3 consecutive games all season either, and I'm not sure if I should feel vindicated or more pissed off the deeper Florida goes.

[@Waders27]

Boston lost 3 straight just before the all star break.

[@ngrosskurth]

@@Waders27 that's right. I blocked that from my memory 🤣

[@cheddarandsourcream]

It’s worse to let fresh pizza sit there for an hour and a half than eating on mic imo

[@motoalley]

Back in October, the Leafs lost 4 games in a row, 2 being over time losses, Oct. 24th loss to Vegas, 27th- Sharks, 29th- Kings and 30th- Ducks

[@gameboard1]

Speaking of changes, IF they lose in game 4! If you can't move Tavares do you stripe his C? We talk about the team having no emotion I don't know if I've ever even seen him blink!

[@PpP-dr1od]

The next 2 games I don't think they're playing to win the series, I think they need to play to keep the band together. Team is getting broken up unless the series puts up literally any fight

[@dcarota]

As a Sharks fan, watching the current Leafs seems very similiar to when the Sharks were at their peak.

[@johnnycoladrums]

The guys monkey-pawed Bedard to the Blackhawks. Good job guys!

[@raygaub9861]

Negative or not, this fan base has been fairly positive to the point of delusion with their defense of Dubas and the Core until this point. You guys really hung in there with them and are a great fanbase.

[@nickperkowski2407]

So one thing about the Marner giveaway thing, the NHL apparently scores a turnover as a giveaway or a takeaway, not as both. So Marner’s giveaways must have been counted as panther’s takeaway’s. Make sense cuz the stats that get published come from the home arena scorekeeper.

[@TheKris519]

i must been in last place with you guys

[@danh9790]

Adam is like the DEVIL 🤣🤣🤣 Pizza and Wings!

[@happytrails151]

Brings it in but says no touch-ee

[@iangurudata]

1:27:00 Dear Jesse, Your payment is in the mail. Sincerely, This Habs fan 😂

[@trafalgerdavis7839]

Can we trade Chicago's Bedard pick for all the core four of the Leafs and just start over???

[@erikmacaluso]

Oh, man. An hour forty minutes? As a proud laffs hater, this is going to be cathartic.

[@post1113]

PS The biggest choke in NHL history was the Leafs blowing a 3-1 to Montreal. The Bruins lost to a team that won the President's trophy last year and are in at least the final 4 this year. Montreal missed the playoffs the year before and finished dead last the year after. Bottom line: Boston lost to a good team, Toronto didn't.

[@DAVIDLEGGETT777]

It's not that Florida is a better team, it's the fact that the Leafs need to gell as one unit.

[@bikingD]

How are not better? Florida is faster. Florida has a better forecheck. Florida better defence. Florida has better goaltending. Florida has a better coach. Lets see Florida was a Presidents Trophy winner last year. Florida has a 2 time vezna trophy winner in net. Florida beat the best team in hockey history in the Bruns this year. In what universe is the Leafs better than Florida? Marner is soft in the playoffs. Mathews is one trick pony take away the scoring is nothing. The defence is old and slow. Goaltending is ok at best. Sheldon as a coach don't even know his own lines. I am so confused on why Leaf fans think they are so good. They really all round are meh at best.

[@DirtyMoneyHipHop]

Ask the team who gets the first pick if they think the lottery is unfair, haha!

[@ju17e]

and people called me all kinds of names when I said the leafs got out played the whole Tampa series and Florida wasn’t gonna let them boys slide like that…. Series isn’t over but 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@AlbumReviewChannel]

50:45, so real