SDS Imports Tisas Fatih 380 Shooting Impressions

[@GBGuns]

AmmoLand article: www.ammoland.com/2020/05/beretta-84-fans-rejoice-sds-imports-tisas-fatih-b380-is-here/#axzz6MMG00bKX

[@donpacker4803]

I just bought one at my local gun shop , used at a good price . Ever since I saw your video last year , 2023, I knew I had to have in my collection. Thank you for the great review.

[@johnscreekmark]

Just like a Beretta...shoots anything! Great alternative to the 84fs. Love the Beretta, but this one is really nice.

[@easyfiveOsink]

I can confirm, yes it will operate with Beretta 84 magazines I have four of those mags and they all function in the Turkish pistol.

[@ReCharredSigh]

I love when you find these underground da/sa handguns outta nowhere; keep it up!

[@greedyboy11]

Picked one of these up last week gotta say this thing is awesome and has become my new ccw

[@bitmastermac]

Did you look at Bersa Thunders? I’d like to see a thunder comparison with this gun. I just picked up a Sig P238 for the small people in my life and I think it’s really nice. I’m afraid to pick up a P938 (kinda why?) and I’m more interested in another, longer barrel 380. These three have my interest, since it’s hard to find a Beretta 84FS at a non-rape price. And a buddy of mine just bought the Walther PPK, so I can’t get that-and I don’t really like to shoot it. Sights are terrible.

[@greedyboy11]

@@bitmastermac not really I always been strictly looking for a Beretta 84 but this came in at a awesome price so I had to pick it up 🤷

[@alexalot23]

Cool I’m definitely thinking abt getting one!!! For the longest I was thinking abt a p238 but for the price and mag capacity I might go with B380!!!! Great review!!!

[@randomcommentary6099]

Dillon, where did you get it? Like the others have said, can't find Beretta 84 and this is a very nice clone. We have a Bersa Firestorm, but I like the 13+1 capacity here for a .380.

[@greedyboy11]

@@randomcommentary6099 I got mine from a local shop here it was the last one they had

[@dmann1209]

Awesome review and groups. The use of different shooters and ammo was very informative and indicates a reliable firearm. Thanks !

[@chrisknott6651]

I love my fatih 13. It is very reliable, and I get good groups all the way around.

[@A6Bnito]

Great video and presentation. I have several Berettas 84, 85, and 81. Recent availability of "nearly" un-used Italian import firearms offers a good deal in the $200-$300 range. Good to see the clone I have to admit, because the Beretta imports will soon dry up.

[@ihitwrongbutton194]

Fun demonstration, l want one. Reminds me of the Beretta model 85 Tony Montana used to get out of club Babylon.

[@RabbiTosmiser]

Actually Tony Montana used a beretta 81 f 32acp

[@johnmikel5934]

Great review, including negatives. Thanks for the post. God bless America, stand strong!

[@larcoal2963]

Fatih is pronounced "fah-tee" and means "conqueror" in Turkish.

[@GBGuns]

Thank you!

[@mehmetyigit7814]

@@GBGuns 2.mehmet (sultan mehmet or fatih sultan mehmet) proprietor constantinapol (ıstanbul)

[@ihitwrongbutton194]

Double stacked, yeah I'd say she got a fatih!

[@aidenpendergast9512]

Thank you for the correct pronunciation. I have only ever seen it written so its good to know what it actually is supposed to sound like.

[@davidengles8670]

many folks inadvertently switch the letters and call it faith...

[@joesworld396]

There is a comment in this video that, "most .380's are blowback, you're not going to be able to escape that easily" and I agree. One that is not blowback is the Sig Sauer P238. It does not have the capacity of this pistol, but it is a tilt-barrel design as is the Smith and Wesson 380 EZ.

[@zaitcev0]

I noticed Teya was re-gripping between shots. This is a sign of a gun that jumps harder than shooter wants to grip it. One other thing I noticed myself - it hurts more when trying to apply a high grip, according to modern sensibilities. Gripping lower helped.

[@aidenpendergast9512]

I found this gun at a local range store. I was so freaking excited because I love the Bereta style but not the size or price. I was already pretty sure this will be my first gun but after watching this video it set that in concrete.

[@stoegerstewie8351]

Hope you found one in chrome, those are pretty eye candy 🦄

[@robinj.9329]

Excellent little carry gun. Everyone that has tried mine has wanted one of their own! But, not always easy to find!!!

[@triggerman1092]

Nice job graham! That looks like a sweet shooter. I have to say that finish on the older one caught my eye. Im a sucker for a shiny blue finish! Cheers

[@GBGuns]

We are too. They just don't blue guns like that anymore :(

[@Lex5576]

Those are MecGar magazines, the “Cat’s Meow” in quality and reliability. If any magazine is going to get the best performance in a Beretta style pistol, they’ll do it. Tisas outdid themselves with this good looking pistol.

[@elcurandero44]

,,,luv the mix-up of rounds you use in your pistol reviews.

[@davidengles8670]

Great review, the only comment I find odd is criticizing the sights. The sights are from the Beretta design not the fault of Tisas. I have 85BB and it has the similar sights. Overall, awesome!

[@GBGuns]

Sure but that doesn't make them great sights.

[@anthonyperkins6364]

Great review !! A Beretta FN video would be great !🇺🇸😃

[@PublicJohn]

I have one of these I bought new and just shoot for the first time 3 weeks ago. The first few mags I kept getting a stovepipe. But soon after it ran really well with no issues. It does have a bite to it. I think this is the grips. I shot a Beretta 81BB I have swapped out the barrel to a 380 and have some used rubber grips on. Much nicer and softer. Same ammo. So yeah it needs better grips. I too do not like the half dot read site. Also... how do you know it is a licensed copy? If it was would it not be an EXACT copy? The fit and finish are good. But not Beretta good, I am happy with mine. Just do not expect a true Beretta

[@ratagris21]

Some new mags need to be broken in. Load the mags to full capacity for 3-5 days then use them or unload them to break in the spring.

[@556suppressor]

The 2023 model has wood grips. I will pick up one of those when they come out.

[@tinkerberns5216]

I have one. Love it. Carry it everywhere. It will eat any ammo I put in it. Nice

[@SamuraiChris78]

I'd black out the back sight right off the bat! I can see how dot on dot could be a little difficult to differentiate.

[@keithplymale2374]

Beretta adopted the open barrel design when they designed the model 1915 for the Italian Army at Italies entry into W W I. If my finances allow I am going to get one of these. I have long wanted a 84 to go with my 92FS.

[@dougmac9955]

If your Beretta FN, is the Browning BDA. I also have one and I also have one of the Beretta 32 ACP versions. I believe it is the model 81, I don't have it in front of me at the moment. But I discovered that not only do the magazines interchange, but also the barrels. I was able to locate a spare Browning BDA 380 barrel and now my Baby Beretta can be run as either a 32 or a 380. I prefer the safety on the Beretta to the slide safety on the BDA. Just personal preference.

[@johnvanb3795]

I've been reviewing your videos on this as I'm deciding between it and a Bersa that are available local to me. I've not been able to find a Beretta.

[@johnvanb3795]

I'm a year late on this review but I was shown one at a store today and wanted more information. It looks like a no-brainer for the price. Thanks.

[@bitmastermac]

Seems like some very good shooting there.

[@MrFlyme123]

Got one today, $399 The Beretta 84 Cheetah has been out of production for a few years. So, I bought this. Very happy with my purchase.

[@jahrules8674]

Same price bought 2 days ago

[@to3ta64]

The Beretta grip frame used to bite my hand too, Tia... I’ve had both a 96(.40S&W) and a 92, and both hurt my hand in the same way. I’ve got small hands.

[@antoniotula262]

92/96 frames are big even for medium to large hands. The 380 here is different, try it out or go for Sig 365 in 380 for double stack.

[@richardjohnson4238]

I put one of these on layaway today, but it appears to be stainless steel. I suspect the frame is aluminum, and the slide may be either stainless or some type of nickel finish. Either way a sharp looking little pistol, with the black grips. You do good video's. I always enjoy them. That round that "bit" the young lady, seemed to have a little more "pop" to it judging by the recoil.

[@davidderler5924]

Turkey Tisas makes some nice pistols . Going to look at gun show tomorrow for that one. Prices usually lower than big name brands that like to screw the hell out of you.

[@anderss6818]

James, what do you think of the Tisas FATiH B380 since the 84 is no longer sold in the US?

[@RichardCranium321]

1- do they offer a .32 /81 clone 2- ARX poly ammo is still being made, but not by ruger that I kno of. Just bought 2 box of 458. Screamers & not punishing on shoulder

[@jnordne2]

Have you seen any Fatih-13's in the USA in .32? I'd love to have one, and they're listed on their website, but I can't find one to save my life. I have a Fatih-13 in 380 and love it, but I've become a fan of .32 and would like a double-stack .32 for the range. I see a ton of used Beretta 81's on Gunbroker, but I'd like to find a new pistol.

[@RichardCranium321]

@@jnordne2 what I did was buy a police surplus Beretta 81 & paid extra for hand select, ordered a new barrel from numrich, then had the entire thing cerakote gloss black, including the mags... it looked like it just rolled off the line & I still have the original barrel for when I want to shoot garbage ammo at the range. If you're looking for a pocket carry conceal .32, check out the Kel Tec p32 with the extended mag. Loaded with 12 rounds of 32acp, it is the lightest gun on the market with +10 capacity... got one for my mother and she has 2 of the extend mags. Carries almost 25rd on her. She's handicap after having multiple hand reconstruction surgeries, but can lay down groups at 9yds that'd make grown men blush. It's extremely accurate and has eaten everything I've ever fed it...

[@jnordne2]

@@RichardCranium321 Thanks for the tip. I have been looking at the Kel Tecs and the baby Berettas, but they are going for insane money these days and I already have a S&W Bodyguard 380 for my carry. I do have a CZ27, CZ70, and just picked up a Beretta M1935, all in 32ACP. The Fatih 13 should be close enough to an 84, it might work to convert it to 32. If I do, I still have my double-stack Makarov for my 380 needs :)

[@RichardCranium321]

@@jnordne2 yeah, most ppl don't realize 380 will work just fine through a Mak in a pinch. They're actually quite comfortable too, not nearly as snappy. Well, none are snappy in the all steel frames but I also have a FEG PA-63 the Hungarian variant with the aluminum frame. You can definitely feel the difference in that aluminum, like swinging a metal baseball bat at a concrete block, your hand is the softest thing in that equation. I do know that Tanfoglio made some nice 32 & 380, some all stainless, but none were double stack. If u can find a Kel Tec, u don't even realize you've got it in your pocket. I could keep one on me in basketball shorts for a pickup game at the local park & would barely know it's there chillin in a sticky holster so it doesn't fall out. The Beretta 81 have nearly doubled in price since I grabbed mine - 189 and I got hand select option, all lettering done in white highlight & only wear appeared to be from a leather holster

[@jnordne2]

@@RichardCranium321 Actually, I have a commercial IJ70-17AH Makarov. It's a mouthfull, but the 17 means it's actually chambered in 380. The H means it's a double stack. I was able to get some 12 round mags straight from Russia as almost every magazine in the US is 10 rounds due to the mid-90's gun laws. The IJ170-18A models were the ones chambered in 9x18 Makarov.

[@jaceizzonn877]

Try Liberty Civil Defense or Underwood Extreme Defender ammo. Less felt recoil, more permanent wound channel without over penetration.

[@StrangerPulls]

My neighbor just purchased this, Not too bad!

[@halitozel8616]

Gerçekten Fatih Çok Güzel Tabanca Özellikle 380 acp. hem hafif Hem Kibar Hemde Çok güçlü...

[@benw2569]

Brass ammo of any sort won’t run in mine. Had to use up my vcrown nickel plated brass just start the break in process. It fed those fine. Recoil sting the web of your hands with this particular pistol. Can’t remember my original 84 ever being like that during recoil. It had serviceable accuracy out to 7 yards but it wouldn’t group consistently at 10 yards, so definitely a 7 yard gun.

[@GBGuns]

Sounds like something is wrong with yours. Have you tried a warranty claim?

[@misterx8592]

Just bot one of these today! Cant wait to get out to the range

[@Ni999]

If the LOK Grips will fit it, I highly recommend them. Look better, feels better, helps you shoot better.

[@wymanbanks5050]

I had to modify the Lok Grips slightly using a couple of files but the fit perfectly now! they feel great!

[@benjimenfranklin7650]

You can get a Beretta for around $200.00 dollars used and that is a good deal.

[@ironmikehallowween]

Where do you find these little Beretta’s for 200? If you can find them, they are 400 or more here in good shape. I believe I would be interested in purchasing any model 81s, 84s, 85s, 86, or 87 for $200 in good condition.

[@benjimenfranklin7650]

@@ironmikehallowween Here you go. They were on sale for 200 but now they are 249. Still a better deal than .......... www.classicfirearms.com/beretta-mod-81-pistol-surplus-used-good-very-good/

[@jeffsnider7842]

Hey man. Love the channel. Do you still have the tisas fatih? If so, any long term impressions? I just ordered one. Any holster suggestions?

[@GBGuns]

Yes we still have it, but ha e been so busy with other guns that we haven't shot it very often. For holsters I'd say leather meant for the Beretta Chertah would likely fit

[@richki.24]

I'm liking it .... Might be buying one ... Just when I was almost set on a Grand Power LP380 or P380, this one comes along .....

[@AABlann]

What model is that FN? I'd definitely be interested in a video on it. Thanks

[@thesmithsonian6378]

I tried a google search, can’t find a “beretta fn”

[@mywifehatesguns]

@@thesmithsonian6378 10:07 he explains

[@rosemarsili9159]

Is this model still being imported into the US? And is it a good carry weapon for a female?

[@GBGuns]

I believe it's still imported. It may be a little wide for carry, but that's a personal preference

[@ralphmadison1246]

I have owned many smaller Berettas and gotten rid of all of them due to heavy, heavy "racking" springs...how does the "racking" rate in this gun???

[@magedelsariakoussy907]

It’s a little heavy to be honest. I have one and this is my opinion.

[@donhowell5401]

After reviewing the Fatih 13 and the SCCY CPX-3, if you had to choose between the two, which would you pick, and why?

[@GBGuns]

That's a tough one, I think it depends on what you like. The SCCY is a double-action only, Tisas is SA/DA.

[@donhowell5401]

@@GBGuns I find the SCCY CPX-3 DAO to be fine, and for a 3 inch barrel, it has been accurate from 7-12 yards. I do like the DA/SA on my Bersa Thunders, which have been tack drivers. I just need to decide if I need a larger framed .380.

[@latemetal1]

Polymer probably won't last as long as a metal gun, your future grandkids may care.

[@donhowell5401]

How does the Fatih compare to the Bersa Thunder .380 and Thunder .380 Plus in all aspects (fit, finish, quality, accuracy, etc.)?

[@GBGuns]

Good question. I don't have a Thunder Plus to compare it to.

[@donhowell5401]

@@GBGuns But you did review the Bersa Thunder .380, so I would imagine you can base a comparison opinion between the Thunder and Fatih. Keep up the great reviews.

[@PJ-SC]

Don G Howell I apologize, can’t give a side-by-side comparison but I can tell you I have a Bersa Thunder and absolutely love it. I’d definitely consider one of these too.

[@farhan.naushad]

Nice video and testing. One small thing to add about the name. It’s not, Faith. I think it is “Fa-Teyh”, which means Winner or Conqueror.

[@GBGuns]

Thanks, we don't speak Turkish so didn't know

[@farhan.naushad]

@@GBGuns I don’t either :-) . I heard it at 6:07 in this promotional video by Tisas. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5yXkHuXjtuUhMU

[@ratagris21]

Hydrashok the water or gel smakin' round for self defense.

[@latemetal1]

Looks like a great gun, thanks..

[@nickallen8333]

Got mine and I love it but the grip kind of digs into my thumb.

[@leftoverspaghetti4u]

Pach Mayer makes grips for it.

[@zachbartlett2829]

The fact its not a decocker is a deal breaker for me. Still seems like a nice clone tho

[@mikharty]

Does it fit the Beretta holster?

[@wymanbanks5050]

Was called the Fatih 13, now Fatih B380. Classic Firearems $399.99

[@GBGuns]

Yes. Classic is asking $10 over MSRP

[@wbwills2]

These are nice no doubt but paying full retail for things is no fun. In your opinion is that the way it’s going to stay with this one? Never held,shot any 80 series beretta pistols but like 92s .1st surplus purchase (81$229,305 w extra mag shipping & all)from CF a month ago.finaly got around to picking it up this past weekend.couldnt be happier with size& feel & condition was a plesent surprise this late in the shipment.extra mag like brand new & pistol was as nice Or nicer than the best hand selected I’ve seen on here. . Haven’t shot it yet but expect it’s going to be good & nudge me towards 380.thanks for showing us this.so if you think it’s going to stay at retail pls Lmk. CF is getting my business +$10. Very pleased with them right now.If I get a F 13 .another beretta would be great but a good clone for contrast is cool too. Thx.

[@wymanbanks5050]

@@wbwills2 Price dropped $30.00 on CF website,

[@GBGuns]

Another reason why I never quote pricing. It changes and the videos do not

[@wbwills2]

Wyman Banks this Tisas Faith 380 $30 off?what website?also did you get one /want one? I showed my brother my surplus 81 & he fell in love with it. He has a 92 I want .thinking of trading.shopped some more & wound up finding some 84s at a good price. LMK if you’re interested I’ll give you the info

[@gunsgonewilder5058]

Thanks, you all pushed me off the cliff and I bought one, lol.

[@GBGuns]

Let us know ow what you think of it

[@sixgunnernick]

Found it! Sorry and thank you.

[@jonleone777]

Do they offer extra magazine and who sells them.

[@jahrules8674]

Yes

[@charlesbaylis8650]

I know you took it to the range before this about how many rounds was break in for it

[@GBGuns]

You saw the first shots. The most we every shoot a pistol before the camera turns on is 5 rounds

[@fontaineking5158]

Looks like a copy of the beretta 34, if not for the double stack.

[@keefespencer1173]

What is the MSRP on that .380?

[@GBGuns]

Google is amazing, but not as amazing as the amount of people who are afraid to use it.

[@Ni999]

@@GBGuns 🤣

[@GBGuns]

I almost never post prices. Prices change, the video doesn't. Who knows how well someone shops or when they'll be shopping for something. I've seen prices fluctuate from -60% to +300% and not even that was permanent.

[@TheMrGman3]

Im looking for extended magazines for this Tisas Fatih pistol, i just bought one and im hoping to get another magazine or an extenmded one ,anyhbody have any ideas where to find one ?

[@ClayWilliams-wp1kk]

I have this firearm it's nice

[@olrikparlez3152]

Not sure on this but could you paint one dot red...or green maybe?

[@GBGuns]

Yes of course, but we always review guns as they come. I've seen too many videos where the reviewer has highly modified the gun and then the experience shown is not what you get when you buy the gun yourself.

[@olrikparlez3152]

@@GBGuns Oh no problem with the format...just a thought. So it IS possible and might be more effective? I was actually looking online for their catalogue to see if they had a 2-dot rear.

[@GBGuns]

Yes model paint or nail polish works fairly well

[@454pakr]

Very NICE!

[@twrol]

...and ordered.

[@MrPrimitiveman]

How does it compare to Bersa ?

[@magedelsariakoussy907]

Way better then Bersa .

[@kevingriffin8854]

How much do you pay Megadeth for the intro music?

[@GBGuns]

This was used under "Free Use" as the clip is so short and not pure. Additionally I notified the band.

[@kchiloquin5570]

Make this the California edition!

[@burhanavci5765]

Düğmeli beratdanın tıpkı aynısı 13. 1

[@wbwills2]

Love both guns ..about to loose my mind if Laura Trump comes on talking about some damn giant bday card or wtf ever.sux.

[@autumnfragrance7185]

I noticed you let your wife fire the heavy stuff.

[@msfreeman1567]

I have a choice. I like to experience the various ammo. I don't ever want to be taken by surprise and it gives an opinion that may help other women determine what they might prefer.

[@track-sv2us]

will this copy take beretta 13 round magazines

[@wymanbanks5050]

yes

[@charlesbaylis8650]

Is it compatible with beretta 84 grips

[@GBGuns]

Rumored to be so, but haven't tried

[@charlesbaylis8650]

@@GBGuns thank you my local shop has one i was going to get for my wife but she wants g10 grips and haven't found any for it but found for beretta 84

[@GBGuns]

I hope it fits

[@jamesmiller986]

what the price on this gun

[@GBGuns]

An internet search is the best place for pricing. Had I mentioned price in this video not only could it have been flagged, but the pricing back then is likely not what it is today.

[@kchiloquin5570]

🌋

[@asilaydying1984]

I need one

[@renehernandez9207]

Where is Erica?

[@GBGuns]

Hasn't been in a video in 3 years.

[@ahmedutuber]

How much

[@garyh.7282]

Classic has them listed at $350.00 correction 400.00

[@lsimpson50]

A new Beretta 84 goes for $700+ (if you can find one). Basic Beretta 92s have always been cheaper. I purchased a 92fs compact (new) for $450 about a year ago from Bud's.

[@garyh.7282]

@@Jscot1001 The 92 is much bigger than the 84 (I have both) and a different caliber . The 380 was the choice of the police forces in Europe for a long time as was 32ACP most of the pistols I have seen lately are surplus or turn in weapons I haven't seen a new 84 in a long time.

[@18wheeler77]

It’s Fatih not Faith.

[@jasongibson6536]

I don't see any recoil.

[@mitchellspringer7025]

If they made this gun in 9mm I’d be all over it

[@GBGuns]

blowback in 9mm is NOT pleasant. 9mm Makarov is about as powerful as you can get with direct blowback and not beat the gun or shooter apart.

[@christianlibrul]

Fatih, not FAITH.

[@michaelanthonyanderson4404]

Ok I am sorry but her hand hurts from a 380 load. She’s being a little over dramatic come on. 🤦🏻