Sea Moss Soap is a Bad Idea, Actually.

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[@MrsSoapAndClay]

a) I blame the extra doggos I have this week for my lack of "let's make stuff" 2) iodine is technically not an allergen but an intolerance, said it right once, wrong the second time, leave me alone I'm human and you know what I mean anyway. c) lather tests are happening after I cut the new soaps, so Friday. We'll do all 6 at once. 4) hi, you're awesome.

[@danielt4449]

the dogs are clearly innocent how dare you besmerch their good name with such slander.

[@purplelissh]

Hello, Beloved missed you. You have to at the seamoss after the oils you use come to trace (I know you do not like that word) substitute 10 % or more of your seamoss gel

[@kattaylor9294]

That's a beautiful blue! Do you remember what it was?

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Isn’t it just? According to the manufacturer, it’s 100% kaolin Clay. 😂

[@Twistedtree7]

I can’t believe the time you’ve had with this! But now thinking about what you’ve said about the minerals /soap scum makes sense. But, I’ve had a sea moss bar in my shower for over 2 weeks and I’m not noticing any difference in the tub 🤔

[@Twistedtree7]

However, the one I am using I also used citric in it. Now my wheels are spinning 😂

[@janetm2969]

I find that sea moss makes a highly astringent lather ... I did add it to hot water though, which breaks it down better, and then let it sit in the fridge for 24 hrs. Then added 1 part gel to 2 parts water to blend it.

[@tonyaswitchykitchen]

Could citric acid be added to maybe bind to the magnesium and calcium in the sea moss? Keep it from misbehaving? Just a thought. Super interesting deep dive! ❤

[@sherrymartindale8582]

How did you process the sea moss? I’ve done many sea moss soaps and processed it right from the bag, water discounted it and added it at trace. Zero issues, beautiful lather, soft feel and skin feels amazing. Not sure what happened here..

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Me neither! I’ve processed it all of the ways.

[@NativeNut]

I use sea moss in all my soap, lotions and face products. I am totally obsessed and so are all of my customers. For 3 lb soap recipe, I will take about 1+ ounce of sea moss (my measurements are very random & liberal, I base it on size more than weight), wash & clean it it thoroughly, rinsing until the water runs clear. Then I pour hot (heat to below boiling) distilled water over. Usually 1.5 % of what my recipe calls for. Let sit till cool. I strain the gel from the gelatinous moss. I put the moss in a container and add enough gel (or distilled water) so I can blend well with the stick blender and make a thick slurry. Blend as fine as you can (the moss will be very soft). I will mix my water (sometimes even aloe) to lye at a 1:1 (again I’m not precise on %), then add the additional ‘water’ to satisfy my water: lye ration using 2/3 sea moss gel and 1/3 moss slurry. I have never, ever had a fail or chunks. And I have made gallons and gallons and gallons of this gel! I don’t use as much ‘moss slurry’ when making body lotions and never with face products (just the gel). I hope you try this. You will change your mind about sea moss!

[@kellsgreenidge8885]

Adding water to gel will not smoothen it out. Rinse the sea moss with tap water. Let it soak for 24 to 48 hours properly submerged under in Spring Water. Use a high watt blender to create the gel when it expands by adding the water it was soaked in. Do it in small portions.

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Did aaaaalllll of that.

[@kellsgreenidge8885]

@MrsSoapAndClay if you did aaaallllll of that your gel will be smooth. Never seen that technique fail anyone.

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

@kellsgreenidge8885 Done aaaalllll of that. You’ve seen it now. 😂

[@unigelaskay8680]

Never worked with seamoss, but as a hard-core chemist, I would first precipitate out with lye the cr@ppyness (yes, it is a scientific term), and then use the supernatant.

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

So separate the minerals from the sea moss gel so we don’t get soap scum? I like that you’re solution based but I wonder how many soapmakers would have a desire to complete extra steps just to get a fancy ingredient in their soaps. Ultimately I was wrong and the gel didn’t impact the lather in a negative way, but I love the idea of taking one of these ugly bars and salting out the unneeded stuff to test against.

[@unigelaskay8680]

@MrsSoapAndClay yeah, I see your point, it's not feasible on a large scale. How about adding like 15% citric acid to the lye to chelate the scum, and just leave it in? I am brainstorming here for the sake of argument, I live in the mountains, no sea moss here lol.

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

@unigelaskay8680 I like it! I think that’s ultimately the most user friendly way to approach the mineral problem!

[@kiwanaderrick3624]

As a seamoss consumer… the seamoss has to be soaked until light and fluffy in distilled water.. can be soaked with lemon and limes … Then add the Seamoss with some of the water to blender should be a applesauce consistency..when blended

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Did all of that, still got this. No gel, no smoothness, nothing. I’ve let some soak until it has rotted. 😂

[@kiwanaderrick3624]

@@MrsSoapAndClay I saw … you have some bad seamoss … which there is fake seamoss floating around lol

[@HB-yk4ut]

I’ve never had an applesauce consistency but one like a conductive gel consistency. It is much better to work with in that state.

[@vixenligon1167]

There are a lot of videos on how to work with sea moss and get sea moss gel. Just like there are videos on getting flaxseed gel. They seem to be about the same procedure. I’m not sure why you tried to add sea moss to a lye solution. The chemical reaction is not going to be the same as just using hot water. If you also don’t need to blend sea moss, you’re just trying to extract the gel from the sea moss. Boil the sea moss until you see mucus then stop the boiling. It seems like you’re just overthinking the process imo.

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Your chemistry is SO off on this one, and it's weird that you are stating something as fact when you don't have anything to back it up. Also, this channel is about testing stuff to see what happens, which you know because I've been dealing with your hot takes for quite a while, so it's also weird to me that you're questioning why I would do a thing.

[@aprildobson9011]

You've got bad sea moss. I know because I've had bad sea moss, too. In my experience, the quality of sea moss is hit and miss. It took me 5 different sources to find one that actually worked to make gel. It's a whole lot easier to buy it already processed into gel, but theres also quality issues there, too. There's a LOT of bad sea moss out there.

[@kattaylor9294]

The 3td bar... The white potion looked like a butt lmao😂

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Totally!

[@peepla7]

Thank you...I'm allergic to iodine. Now I know not to use that.

[@danielt4449]

so if it is calcium and magnisum would citric acid / sodium citrate help at all?

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

You bet! Here are my concerns: a) great now I have to put ANOTHER thing in my soap to counterbalance the negative effects of the first thing and 2) if you’re adding citric acid to combat soap scum forming in the soap, does that mean you would need to add *more* to combat soap scum in hard water? Then it’s a double adjustment of lye and now my brain has exploded. 😂

[@danielt4449]

@@MrsSoapAndClay yeah wondered that too. also since the minerals are one of the selling points of the sea moss you just bound them out lol. ah well

[@HB-yk4ut]

Your sea moss was not in gel form. It was not smooth. Run it through your Vitamix. I promise that it is wonderful to work with. I replace 100%water and add a lot to batter. Makes a beautiful soap😘Yours turned out so lovely!🎀

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Did the vitamix thing! Didn’t work. So frustrating!

[@thebrowninghomestead5557]

Stick with powdered lol. I hate addatives not powder. Always an issue of some type. Thank you for all you do!!!

[@aliciaanderson9900]

Would powdered sea moss work? I saw some at a whole foods near me.

[@biloxipinto62]

Have you thought of hot processing the sea moss? 🤔

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Yes! That worked really well, actually.

[@purplelissh]

Hello Beloved miss you 🎉

[@soapyfluffs]

LOL But did y ou put it in a instapot and pressure cook it lol =p

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Right after I tucked it into bed and read it a story. 😂

[@soapyfluffs]

@@MrsSoapAndClay love it

[@jamiegardella1251]

Do you still have the Bulldog?

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

He passed away a few years ago. We miss him.

[@jamiegardella1251]

@@MrsSoapAndClay I'm sorry!!

[@Charbythedesert]

Bad sea moss! Bad! Bad!😠😠maybe new sea moss will be better.

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

It’s driving me nuts. 😂

[@brendawilliams5689]

Hi did you try boiling and straining it? Somewhat like how you process flaxseed.❤

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Hey! I’ve tried allll the ways. 😂

[@michellegonzalez7202]

Prob a bad batch

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

I’m thinking you’re right! Bad batch.

[@sacredmoods]

You need a high powered blender… I make this soap all the time… the stick blender is not powerful enough 😢

[@MrsSoapAndClay]

Used a blender! This was another attempt on the same sea moss that had been broken down with the blender. 🤪

[@roxaneevans1187]

Nope both my batches turned out crappy

[@roxaneevans1187]

I soaked overnight and it did plump up, I rinsed it and then blended it and did what I thought was right but still got the clumpy bits also

[@adhd_alchemy]

😩