I don't know about the others but Almirante Oquendo, if you play her properly, a bit away from the people and play smart with the range, you can do a good game. Also, a Premium ship and you easily earn more money with just a 40% coupon.
@ReDiR2011 сағат бұрын
yep, Oquendo is among top T9 cruisers
@HerbaceousM8Сағат бұрын
yeah ok maybe, but other ships dont have to play in a sliver of viability. of the ones that came out this year its not terrible, but its just not as good as similar ships
@_nihilus712712 сағат бұрын
Hey sea lord, i was the musashi who listens on the way to work lol. Thanks for the vid as always. Merry Christmas!
@Gersemi_Trader10 сағат бұрын
disagree on sicilia, its not for everyone but With the current playerbase you can totally dominate with it in any gamemode. As a superunicum i would say this is more fun and potentially stronger than quite a few other ships.
@MrGunninn14 сағат бұрын
Well my lord I definetly do not agree with your Sicilia verdict, one of my best performing battleships :D It's a citadel monster hehe
@BeSh-zz4nl10 сағат бұрын
Interesting video Sealord. I think my definition of a bad ( or not so good) ship is a bit different from yours! I see the bad ships as being those which make an already precarious matchmaking system even more imbalanced. So basically the ships which have a gimmick that leads to more one sided matches. On this basis my three worst ships released this year are Hildebrand, Libertad and Los Andes. Controversial I know! I think Almirate, Cerberus, Kozma, Sicilia are all good ships to have in the game, because they add interesting variation in play without running nearly so much risk of unbalancing battles by adding a cracked gimmick!
@einosaari584412 сағат бұрын
Sicila is really a good ship. As someone wrote earlier its a citadel monster. And i dont ever use anyting else than ap with mainguns. Those 16 "romaguns" are a horror if u show a little bit of ur side. And full broadside whatever will regret it for long time. I use full sec build and sometimes hybrig with aiming för mainguns. Whatever works just fine for me. But its NOT a ship u push in to cloxe combat brawl with. Sweet spot for me is 10-15 km. Its hilarious to slap kurfursts, yamas, shikis etc etc wit for half their hp..
@aquasalim277513 сағат бұрын
kinda like oquendo that accurate gun is soo good IMO XD
@MB-vr6fu12 сағат бұрын
yeah, played from the back it´s quite a good firestarter, like a Zao. The special ammo makes sense because you don´t need to spam HE shells with Oquendo. First volley, fire, then wait that DCP runs out, so enough time for using the special ammo, second volley, perma fire.
@PurpsUK211 сағат бұрын
I agree, after a bit of effort this ship is a monster, the only thing I find with it is, it feels like it's not doing much, then you suddenly realise, hey I'm doing really well, what's happening!! Have to have ammo switching though, I use the AP with the long reload for extra citadels, and a "little bit" of better accuracy, nah it's a TON when it counts. I-56 is the same, give it a bit of time and it really comes into it's own. I get the feeling these ships weren't on Sea Lords, work out how to play them because mah gimmicks aren't there list rather than worst ships list
@hapexamendar10938 сағат бұрын
Any ship with this great of a camo is fine!
@mathiasrryba13 сағат бұрын
I like the Oquendo and do very well in it, my favourite tier 9 cruiser for sure. The alternate shells are great for shelling a bow-in battleship or better yet surprising a broadside cruiser and landing 5+ citadels.
@saulmedeiros883612 сағат бұрын
I56 is actually good. Wasn't people saying that Kosma was OP when was released?
@bilbolagginz849311 сағат бұрын
Cerebus is great imo. Very competitive if played right.
@wramsey26569 сағат бұрын
I think you are spot on regarding the COmmonwealth cruiser line. When it first came out your teammates were ecstatic to know you were playing said crosiers when they "saw" an enemy sub. As odds would dictate "sometimes" you were lucky enough for M/M to spawn you on the same side as the sub. The "other" games where there was no sub or you were spawned on the other side of the map, made for usual smoke up and HE spam show (like Perth but with less accuracy, (assuming you were like me and set your ship up for a sub killer)). I must admit those first couple of months were fun when sub players were not informed of the new cruisers and wondered why they were being detected and bombed lol!!
@IamElChapo13 сағат бұрын
The Kremlin is a ship that's painful to utilise effectively with the HE and torp spam in the game. The dispersion of the guns can still be ridiculous
@Lupus_Indomitus12 сағат бұрын
Yeah, but she didnt get added this year. And thats the point of this list. Maybe he should have named the video "top 5 worst new ships of 2024". Thats more along the lines of the video
@Uthandol9 сағат бұрын
I dunno. I still put out a ton of damage in my Krem. Sure, its not as tanky as some other battleships but you get a lot in one package. I guess its down to the game mode. I find Krem is great in Ranked and is extremely good in Aysemetrics. Mileage may vary.
@williamneitzel224911 сағат бұрын
Thank you for the comment on the SICILIA, as I was flipping a coin between her and another RB ship I don't have. Merry Christmas to you and all out there reading the comments.
@homefront199913 сағат бұрын
SLM what do you think of the idea of making a new Italian BB split line. Taking the gimmick of the Giuseppe and bringing it to an entire line? You don't get SAP on your main guns, but you get the exhaust smoke and SAP Secondary guns. Doesn't have the huge range of South American or German bbs. But has large ROF and the damage from SAP. I can easily see the legendary mod increasing the smoke time. Maybe at tier 8-10 you get hydro or defensive fire. I love the gameplay of the Giuseppe. Finding the time to rush at enemies with smoke, holding fire, and letting the secondaries rain hellfire on ships. Especially if you find DD's or CL's. I think a split could be fun. It doesn't even need a full line. But could split and start at tier 7 or 8.
@jensgaus78112 сағат бұрын
Completely disagree on Oquendo and Sicilia. The Russian Kozma Minin isn't bad either. It's all about personal preference right?
@wheatley_the_weasel7 сағат бұрын
As far as I remember, Roon, by design, uses the same guns as the Admiral Hippers, just in a triple mount as opposed to a twin mount.
@quoniam42610 сағат бұрын
Sicilia's shortcoming is the reason why I only see it in ranked and brawl where distances of engagement are closer compared to Random. I have the feeling that some of those bad ships are made for those kind of game modes to farm creds and commander XP.
@davidnorburg227111 сағат бұрын
I agree with your review of the Kozma Minin. However, there are two aspects of the main guns that help redeem the boat: [1] great accuracy due to flat trajectories, and [2] under 8 second reload in most combat situations before adrenaline rush kicks in.
@ahemschmeyer12 сағат бұрын
Cerberus guns are filthy. The smoke crawl makes gives it a different play style over the Goliath. Aquindo has garbage guns, so yes a useless ship. I’ve gotten several +200k damage game on the Cerberus. Lots of fun
@hapexamendar10938 сағат бұрын
I agree, However all the “extra buffs” to the anti sub warfare equals crap! All the major powers had anti-sub sonar on their DD’s at the START of WW2 because they would form the bubble around the main force and this game ignoring that drives me crazy!!
@woogbear12 сағат бұрын
Since the break between WG and Lesta, it seems that Lesta got most of the development and art departments while WG got the marketing department. It seems like there is very little real development in WG and the most of the new ships and lines are copy and paste of other ships or cobbled together with the Lesta assets they inherited. After grinding the 2nd Russian Battleship line and second American destroyer lines in Lesta, there is nothing WG has compared to these. They are good solid ships without the gimmicks and funny buttons. If Lesta were to go into direct competition against WG in the NA I think Lesta could give WG a run for its money.
@Uthandol9 сағат бұрын
IS there a way for an American to get and play the Lesta version? Will accounts be linked between WG and Lesta?
@woogbear8 сағат бұрын
@ you will need google translate on your phone. Download the Lesta game center and go through the process of setting up the account. If you are not in Russia, this can be played only as free to play because of US sanctions. You will also need to setup a unique email address, I did it on. Yahoo. Lesta is separate from WG so there is no linking of accounts.
@onyxdragon117913 сағат бұрын
Just a tip: Pronounce the "quendo" part as you would "kendo" (as in Okendo). In Spanish, the u after a q is 'silent' if there's an 'e' or 'i' after it. Also, I haven't touched that ship like, ever. Got it from dockyard, is still sitting on dock - thought abount bringing it to Operations, but I'm not sure how it'd perform...
@DerKalmen13 сағат бұрын
I've got the Oquendo for free because I already had the Leipzig. With the F button for better dispersion but longer reload the guns basically feel like the Japanese heavy cruiser guns on a different hull with worse concealment, but much better range + spotter plane.
@jeffshoesmith804710 сағат бұрын
Sicilia is an awesome ship. AP smashes and the secondrys work fine.
@derSauger66613 сағат бұрын
so,from a BB Main(SLM), 3 Cruisers and a Submarine are the worst ships,what a surprise
@bumblebity290213 сағат бұрын
Sorry, Sicilia is great unless the whole sniping meta in this case you right because Italians are handicapped by range. Ohio have same secondary range but benefited with hers unique gimmicks.
@Norbrookc10 сағат бұрын
I'd almost put the Commonwealth cruiser line in this category, not just the Cerberus. They all seem to be made of citadels. Angled, head on, didn't matter, and if you were unfortunate enough to have presented a broadside, well, dev strikes for the one who targeted you.
@johnmccoy47562 сағат бұрын
Nice vid
@mertc805013 сағат бұрын
Hoooold up slm, you are right with sicilia BUT u failed the iq test by putting sec reload on 6th module instead of reload bruhhhh.
@ReDiR2014 сағат бұрын
certainly not Oquendo. It's a top HE cruiser on T9
@hapexamendar10938 сағат бұрын
I have enjoyed the Cerberus but it’s too fragile to get close enough to deal with subs. Just a decent smoke crawler with a few interesting torps (13.5 and fast). It gets killed by subs no problem as it’s rather big and clumsy.
@Seanscichlids8 сағат бұрын
Well darn. I was thinking about getting the Sicilia. Looks like it will be put way back on the list.
@deaninchina014 сағат бұрын
Don’t be put off at all, it’s a damn fine ship. I agree with the others. I reckon Sealord has been well and truly on the brandy this Christmas with just about all his choices.
@Frankon819 сағат бұрын
"if i want to play a mid range spaming cruiser i would play Goliath cause its better at it" its kind of funny that all of the top streamers, and unicorn players say that Cerberus is hugly superior to Goliath and after its release there is no point playing Goliath in randoms/ranked since Cerberus does everything better than it. Sycillia was dead on arrival. During its development it was a Colombo with most of its problematic characteristic fixed. But the same patch she was released WG applied all those "fixed stats" of Sycylia hull into Colombo making the tech tree orginal vastly superior.
@SofaKingA9 сағат бұрын
Almirante Oquendo is on this list?! I set my fire setting record in that ship!! Cmon man! 🤔🤔 But you're right, the gimmick they gave it is horrible. I never use it. WG got lazy.
@MechFrankaTLieu13 сағат бұрын
ASW and AA is 2 mechanism that basically just do not work it's intent , to prevent enemy even making into range or launching a salvo .. not all surface ships are BB that can tank , these mechanism , gimmicks are WOWS showing how they favor only big guns and every facet of mechanism and balance only balanced for them The commonwealth cruisers really not much of use even in ASW role
@Gabriel-Kazu2 сағат бұрын
3km min arming range for sub torps killed all subs not just i56. Most subs have a max torp range of 8-10km and having to waste 3 of those km on dead space is atrocious. And given that most sub torps are literally the exact same as their surface fired counterparts having an arming for one and not the other makes no sense in an arcade game. Either remove arming distance for sub torps or apply it to all ships. And yes I'm aware carried planes torps have arming distances but those are different type of torpedo most of the time
@stuffandwhatnot440114 сағат бұрын
Picardie?
@maltemejlstrup474613 сағат бұрын
Picardie was released in 2023
@stuffandwhatnot440113 сағат бұрын
@@maltemejlstrup4746 Ah. I had successfully blocked that from my memory.
@maltemejlstrup474612 сағат бұрын
@@stuffandwhatnot4401 I just got the Picardie out of a free santa container after getting the Lugdunum and it's crazy how much better Lugdunum is despite being a tier lower. Lugdunum is crazy fun, Picardie is pain. Who thought giving a lyon smaller guns but a reload booster would be enough to uptier it!? Lugdunum just really exposes how much of a joke Picardie is. At least I got it for free and it's off my santa drop list.
@404found005 сағат бұрын
Picardie is so bad that it doesn't even show up in the tier list.
@ahemschmeyer12 сағат бұрын
I always get the crap dockyard ship but pass on the good ones.
@8RedBear511 сағат бұрын
The Al. Oquendo being another Dorkyard disappointing shouldn't be surprising but I'm still salty I bought into it for a Spanish captain trainer. The Cerberus is a disappointment not so much because it rarely gets to fight the battle its intended for but because the design of the ship sucks. Cerberus has the worst turret armor of any T10 cruiser. Who ever thought giving a T10 heavy cruiser turrets made of 25mm armor plate was a good idea needs to be sent else where. I've lost Cerberus turrets to Russian DDs who incidentally have better turret armor. I once used the Des Moines' AP to render a Cerberus toothless by just killing its turrets and it wasn't even hard. I could fix the Cerberus by giving it comparable turret armor to other T10 heavy cruiser and changing its creeping smoke to 1/2 speed smoke.
@outridergamez594214 сағат бұрын
i´m not a good Submarine player at all. The I56 is my only sub an i was trying to get into the sub gameplay with her. At the end of the day i "decommissioned" her because nothing worked with her. I have not sold her yet but i dont see a reason to keep her or use her anymore.
@PimpekRook13 сағат бұрын
DONT SELL HER because then you will get her in a crate
@outridergamez594210 сағат бұрын
@@PimpekRook That sounds scary... and true^^
@Brainreaver798 сағат бұрын
when he talks about the silicia he mentions the 11.3km secondary range,.. i remember the secondaries on the yamato and in my memory they were worse. or did they change something? edit... 3km arming range isnt the problem in my opinion,.. the detection range of the torps with 2km+ which literally allows the slowest bs to still dodge everything without stress, if you use the unguided torps, they are even more visible, are way slower.. so my problem isnt even with the arming distance and more with the other details of the torps. and... did wargaming ever explain why deepwater torpedos cant hit submarines?
@donpfoutz62510 сағат бұрын
My best ships of 2024: (I own these) 1- Pommern 2- Wiesbaden 3- Strasburgh 4- Cleveland 5- Kii Nothing terribly exciting to many, but I love them.
@SturgesOpinie55 минут бұрын
The Swedish tier X cruiser 'SVEA' should be on that list. That ship is as worthless as can be and absolutely NOT worth the 30K steel. .
@OliverButOllie9 сағат бұрын
I personally like the Sicilia
@gregwilliams44372 сағат бұрын
Fortunately none of these crappers have been ported over to the console version.
@mazgazine18 сағат бұрын
Dude YOU FORGOT PICARDIE!!!!! A tier 8 that has nothing over its tier 7 Lyon and now the Lugdunum!
@sealordmountbatten8 сағат бұрын
Came out in 2023
@mazgazine17 сағат бұрын
@sealordmountbatten why does it feel so recent?! weird..
@stevenchan382211 сағат бұрын
I56 is great!
@samuelstevens567411 сағат бұрын
I feel like all the CVs should be in the top ten but hakuryuu should be like number one because WG designed her to suck.
@Uthandol9 сағат бұрын
How often do you run into submarines you say? In randoms....every game.
@dannyoneill178010 сағат бұрын
You had Cereberus on the best ships on 2024 and now its on the worst? Which is it?!
@HlstoryDebunked11 сағат бұрын
Cerberus? It is a great ship
@davidhines759236 минут бұрын
they should get rid of research ships and add them to steel ships. double the normal cost if they really must but not forcing regrind of lines. i will NEVER regrind new york - new mexico - colorado. i would rather earn free xp and just buy my way past.
@ksl40446 сағат бұрын
i wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion on sicilia, she is an absolute WEAPON in mode shuffle, ranked, brawls etc, and even in randoms i find her situational at worst, i perform similarly in colombo, montana, repub, etc. and while i dont think she is OP mainly due to the lack of secondary accuracy i do think she is an excellent ship, though i would still recommend ohio before her in the RB
@Apollyon-er4ut8 сағат бұрын
Yeah, after all the hype about it, I got the Sicilia. It was a total disappointment. I never play it just because there are so much better ships.
@sbels9812Сағат бұрын
16 15 inch gun you mean?
@PzDarby9 сағат бұрын
Didn't you say that Cerberus was one of the best ships of 2024?
@crazykev59 сағат бұрын
Wisconsin is the worst ship occurring to KZbinrs and I didn't get the ship then they all changed their opinions after I was no longer able to get it.
@LoanwordEggcorn13 сағат бұрын
sub torpedo shotgun nerf, because IRL torpedoes are weaker if closer....?
@Lupus_Indomitus12 сағат бұрын
No, because it was absolutly busted when it was possible. Subs could just drive up to you, basically point blank and just delete you. Even ships like gk or yamsto were getting oneshotted, not to mention cruisers and all.
@neishark17356 сағат бұрын
Are the bad ships in the room with us ?
@sardaukerlegion14 сағат бұрын
Yes
@gstormcz12 сағат бұрын
I would generalise your words to say: " It's just miserable to play a ship in todays WoWs!" 😅 Cerberus seems just like any other smoke cruiser - you depends alot on getting spotting. But IMHO these ships have less game impact. Sicilia was probably my most expensive mistake in use of RB pts, that ship doesn't work for me. You said everything about her. (shared bad experienced is prove to me) On the other side there is R Di Lauria 457mm SAP which can work well. It has great speed and heavy hitting guns. Just get steel for her. It's much better ship. Yolo ship: Forget shotgunning, there is Pizza Delivery System (Pa-yolo Emilio). Or you can try leg module Kleber or simply any French T8 and up DD could work.
@tijger535314 сағат бұрын
Where tiger 59 Yeah I know the tiger is from a couple years ago, but I am still asking
@XxXStoneFingerXxX14 сағат бұрын
1:19 He even mentions it explicitly...
@scootypooper14 сағат бұрын
Hello
@Balanar623611 сағат бұрын
Cerberus so bad its used in CB.😅 Get your facts straight SMB!
@FidelisRaven12 сағат бұрын
Disagree on Cerberus.
@PigPissBeUponThem7 сағат бұрын
HMS Didn’t Ask
@coling395711 сағат бұрын
i would disagree with 3 of those ships.. i don't see any AMERICAN ships listed ofc. the appalling sluggish slow USN bbs.....
@papaversomniferum236511 сағат бұрын
Welll a murican cant say anything bad about a murican ships. This is a first rule of this channel, as i noticed :P
@sealordmountbatten10 сағат бұрын
@@papaversomniferum2365 have you never seen my California review??
@DowjicNareen2 сағат бұрын
@@sealordmountbatten or any mention of Pensacola (insert detonation clip here....).
@brianhines580112 сағат бұрын
Cerberus is great,way worse ships than that one
@puckhead7778 сағат бұрын
Sorry SLM, but no sub would be on my list, they wouldn't even be in the game.
@copperhead55014 сағат бұрын
Saying these ships are bad. You just have skill issues man.
@SuspiciousAnomoly13 сағат бұрын
I just think everyone will have their opinion on what ships they like and don’t like. Personally I think the Atlanta is dogshit and others think it’s a good ship.
@Joey_Liu12 сағат бұрын
Buddy, he literally explained these are not bad ships, just not the best that was released in 2024.
@copperhead55012 сағат бұрын
@@SuspiciousAnomoly i56 was released last year. So that’s wrong with picking the sub too
@sealordmountbatten11 сағат бұрын
Please refer back to the opening 2 minutes
@Leozinffr10 сағат бұрын
@@sealordmountbattenlol lol , people comment before watching the video 😂