Sean Plunket On The Prime Minister's Complete Abandonment Of The Treaty Principles Bill

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@BobBarb
@BobBarb Күн бұрын
Luxon has just lost his job. The voters of New Zealand will punish him for this. I voted for change, not Luxinder. I voted National as it seemed the most sure way to get the last clowns out of power. Now Luxon has just lost me as a voter. Nothing has been acheived on anything, anywhere and this is final straw. ACT will get my vote next time. For me to consider staying in NZ beyond 2026, I wanted to see change and be given confidence that Non Maori can exist in NZ under Moaridom. This is the single biggest issue for me and Luxon has just shat on my vote. Stinks of WEF or UN 2030.
@briansatchell2319
@briansatchell2319 Күн бұрын
He's been * Told ,* by His Leaders not to Run with it
@shanehunt4661
@shanehunt4661 Күн бұрын
The country isn't Maori you clown, less than 1% of the population is and they are all less than 50% Maori. 99% of the country are just kiwis and happy to have one law for all. Only Maori need special handouts because they aren't capable of doing anything for themselves
@authenticshift5515
@authenticshift5515 Күн бұрын
Luxinda 😂 that's a great way to put it.
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@BobBarb Wow National must be in a huge spin losing your vote
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@BobBarb Shows how easily Kiwis are scammed
@peterturner581
@peterturner581 Күн бұрын
Luxon has shown himself so often to be politically immature, he lacks any backbone, and is totally shit scared of upsetting Maori. Putting more pointedly he has no balls for a fight, and thinks that he can just put David Seymour down. Big big mistake, which will bite him and National in the bum.
@roilhead
@roilhead 22 сағат бұрын
He needs to be rolled. NZ & the rest of the world has had enough of leaders that tell us what to think & thinking they know better than us. Clearly Luxon is starting to become JA2, time to roll him.
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 19 сағат бұрын
All he is actually achieving is that next time around David Seymour will get the votes
@johnjoseph3570
@johnjoseph3570 15 сағат бұрын
John Key the great appeaser has told Luxon not to upset the Maoris.
@PaulMineur
@PaulMineur Күн бұрын
Luxon needs to grow some balls ... all hard working kiwis are sick of this nonsense ...
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@PaulMineur He actually has shown leadership,by having to tell Seeless for about the umpteenth time that The Treaty Principles is going nowhere.Either Seeless is Deaf or intellectually challenged.Has anyone taken time to ask about millions wasted on this Bill going nowhere?My understanding of Coalition agreement was exactly as PM has stated.So which bit don't ACT understand?
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@PaulMineur No don't comment for ALL Hardworking Kiwis.Perhaps you need another clarification of Nationals policy.As PM has CLEARLY Stated ACTS Bill will not be supported past 1st reading.That policy & position was signed off as part of Coalition agreement but Seeless clearly has a hearing & comprehension problem
@Rokker61
@Rokker61 Күн бұрын
@@alistermacpherson7120 It would be interesting to see Luxinda's reaction to the submissions from angry New Zealanders over the next 6 months. Maybe then we'll really see who has the hearing and comprehension problem!
@ketufo
@ketufo Күн бұрын
And plenty of hard working Maori yhay feel the same way trust me.
@nigelowen4262
@nigelowen4262 Күн бұрын
@@alistermacpherson7120 I wonder if perhaps you have not listened much to David Seymour's position? He has been asked this question countless times! He is well aware of Luxon's position and commitment. David Seymour wants to have a public debate regardless of whether or not the bill makes it into law. Obviously you must have never seen or heard the countless interviews where David has clearly explained this position.
@crazykiwican
@crazykiwican Күн бұрын
He is the weak link in the coalition. I voted for him last time but will not error on that again. David and even Winston are shining stars
@lisac1619
@lisac1619 Күн бұрын
"Even Winston". Winnie has been a star for the last two elections, people were just too blinded by the two party machine.
@Geoff-lu3qv
@Geoff-lu3qv Күн бұрын
@@lisac1619Are you two forgetting who anointed Jacinda Queen Bee? We all know how that worked out!
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@crazykiwican God will forgive you
@jeremysmith5232
@jeremysmith5232 Күн бұрын
vote Act to keep National honest . . .
@jasperhorace7147
@jasperhorace7147 Күн бұрын
@@Geoff-lu3qv yes and out of personal spite, nothing to do with politics.
@TonyBro-t7q
@TonyBro-t7q Күн бұрын
Luxon has just voted himself and National out of the next election 😂
@29Ni8
@29Ni8 Күн бұрын
Depends what he brings out next for nz
@sherylwhite2201
@sherylwhite2201 Күн бұрын
Hope so!
@_.Marz._
@_.Marz._ Күн бұрын
Why is that though? Was he even campaigning for the Treaty Principles Bill or are you folk getting all worked up over something he really didn't agree to in the first place?
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@TonyBro-t7q You clearly show your total lack of understanding of how politics works.1 Today's news tomorrow's history 2 People are easily swayed & influenced 2020,Labour win 2023 National win 1981 National win because of Rugby mania.
@korocam9137
@korocam9137 Күн бұрын
After the 2023 election National secured 38.06% of the vote. Act had 8.64%, and NZ first had 6.08 % of the vote. Notice how quite Winston is? He is no Mug.. Resistance movements have toppled Government’s before.
@Samuel-n7p2b
@Samuel-n7p2b Күн бұрын
Served us well Mr Luxon ? People want a Leader in this matter, Not a bloody coward like you. Disgraceful.
@jeffreywilliams7648
@jeffreywilliams7648 Күн бұрын
Never vote National again. Bring on Seymour.
@Bonsqueesquee
@Bonsqueesquee 22 сағат бұрын
Never Labour, never National... Seymour for the Patriots!
@davidfeather3880
@davidfeather3880 Күн бұрын
Luxon you are weak.
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 19 сағат бұрын
💯 you beat me, he’s pathetic imo
@ABCBUGGYNZ
@ABCBUGGYNZ Күн бұрын
OMG ~Luxon's a gone-burger - he's just doomed his parliamentary career, and maybe the National party with him.
@roilhead
@roilhead Күн бұрын
He needs to be rolled. Non delivery is not an option.
@NZ_Kiwi1010
@NZ_Kiwi1010 Күн бұрын
Luxon is a coward
@questor55
@questor55 Күн бұрын
A coward knows what needs to be done and then runs away from it. But Luxon doesn't have ideas. He has a position. He's completely trapped in a prism of his party's ideology. Trying to communicate with him is about as useful as talking to a pamphlet.
@secondchance6603
@secondchance6603 Күн бұрын
He's too busy cozying up to The Sultan of Brunei. That's the country that's one of the most oppressive intolerant countries in the world that holds one of the worst records on human rights. Sex trafficking in Brunei is human trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation and slavery that occurs in the country.
@NZ_Kiwi1010
@NZ_Kiwi1010 Күн бұрын
@questor55 🤣😂
@Deathkvlt696
@Deathkvlt696 Күн бұрын
Just goes to show how much of a political hot potato this issue is.
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@questor55 Ah but kiwis love him
@PeterMacGrergor
@PeterMacGrergor Күн бұрын
Luxon is so wrong on this. Democracy is equal rights for everyone. Nothing raced base is acceptable.
@_.Marz._
@_.Marz._ Күн бұрын
Do you not have equal rights now?
@PeterMacGrergor
@PeterMacGrergor Күн бұрын
@@_.Marz._ I do as I am part Maori.
@_.Marz._
@_.Marz._ Күн бұрын
@@PeterMacGrergor So what's the problem? If Māori and Non-Māori both currently have equal rights as NZ's, why is everyone getting their panties in a twist?
@BillsYoutubeAccount
@BillsYoutubeAccount Күн бұрын
@@_.Marz._ People don't have equal rights. Recently finished Uni and discriminated against out of scholarships due to my race.
@Bonsqueesquee
@Bonsqueesquee 22 сағат бұрын
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!
@frankplaisted6387
@frankplaisted6387 Күн бұрын
Thank you, Sean, this is why that I certainly will never vote National again, Luxon is SPINELESS as a leader and there should now be a vote of no confidence in the National party.
@roilhead
@roilhead Күн бұрын
Why the entire party, just roll Luxon for someone who can deliver.
@LynJames-uz4kh
@LynJames-uz4kh Күн бұрын
No National vote from me. From now on I will vote Act next time.
@fatbastard70
@fatbastard70 Күн бұрын
If you do this, you may be the last straw that puts Labour, Greens and TPM back into the big seat. Think carefully. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 19 сағат бұрын
Me too .
@Diablotiamo88
@Diablotiamo88 17 сағат бұрын
And me.
@hartley9958
@hartley9958 Күн бұрын
The poll they did on this had 45 percent support 21 unsupported 22 couldn't care less, Luxon is on the wrong side of this.....
@argondemad8024
@argondemad8024 Күн бұрын
Wow, thats impressive numbers. And im not surpised. Could be higher in a referendum
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@hartley9958 And you believe Polls,next you will tell us you believe in Santa.Polls are as about as reliable as a Bamboo spring
@trevorhughes6254
@trevorhughes6254 Күн бұрын
I will not vote National as long as he remains leader. He's as woke as Ardern.
@Richard_AKL
@Richard_AKL Күн бұрын
We all know he worked for AirNZ, one of the wokest companies in the country, so of course his viewpoint fits that narrative.
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@trevorhughes6254 So you won't be voting in 2026!!!!@
@honeyholly001
@honeyholly001 Күн бұрын
Pray NZ first gets back in in a big way next time to stop him implementing woke woke.
@itsjustweard2328
@itsjustweard2328 Күн бұрын
Yep I agree 100% said that today to my partner. He's in bed with the world economic forum
@RowanKyle-j2j
@RowanKyle-j2j Күн бұрын
Luxon has again failed to read the room. Soon this is going to bite him, and National big time.
@rossdixon5050
@rossdixon5050 Күн бұрын
luxon is a total coward no spine
@waenmanson3489
@waenmanson3489 Күн бұрын
Totally agree!!
@bennyssen5821
@bennyssen5821 Күн бұрын
If we knew this prior to the election we would not of voted for him. he lied to us
@mr2981
@mr2981 Күн бұрын
Luxon's gonna Luxon. Exactly what I expected from this mashed potato of a leader, and why I didn't vote National.
@eddieh4800
@eddieh4800 Күн бұрын
Looks like he didnt need your vote anyway
@Richard_AKL
@Richard_AKL Күн бұрын
Correct - pity that most of the rest of the country didn't see what was so obvious to some of us.
@Matowix
@Matowix 17 сағат бұрын
And he has an egg shaped head
@stevegray4734
@stevegray4734 Күн бұрын
Act all the way, Lupton is letting the country down, apartheid is on the way, two separate peoples based on race.
@delinquentinparadise
@delinquentinparadise Күн бұрын
Luxon should Resign. He has shown himself be be out of step with a majority of New Zealanders on the Treaty Principals Bill, and he refuses to act in the matter of bias on our Television and radio stations. Many New Zealanders consider Luxon a political Coward in the above matters, is unfit for the position he holds, and that he should resign immediately.
@roilhead
@roilhead Күн бұрын
Luxon needs to be rolled for Xmas. Shakey ground, I doubt he will last.
@OXSEnterprises
@OXSEnterprises Күн бұрын
I am a 38 year old Kiwi. What I worry about is that the term "honour the treaty" will just end up being screamed by every criminal in this counrry to get them off and money forever being extorted out of government and council forever and we just end up a completely third world country.
@runforrestrun1965
@runforrestrun1965 Күн бұрын
We heard the same rubbish when it was “settlements” ….full and final. Was promised that would be the end of it and maori would go on and use the millions paid for their benefit. Yet it’s been proven they keep going to the trough asking for more. This is yet another avenue they are trying. Next is the foreshore and seabed…be the sky and space next lol.
@williamearnshaw410
@williamearnshaw410 Күн бұрын
Add to that scenario... Maori get their filthy greedy mitts on the treasury... No benefits or pensions if you don't "convert" To Maori Dominion. If I were Kiwis not already gone like myself and thousands of others... I would say pack your go bag now. Put your money out of the country... It's all at risk...
@davemonster2
@davemonster2 Күн бұрын
Did you know the we as a nation have spent less of all the treaty settlements than 1 year of super? So who is really bleeding the country dry. The Maori your so scared of or all the old people who don't want change
@leowolters-o8y
@leowolters-o8y Күн бұрын
He has lost my vote. Incredibly immature.
@davidfisher1735
@davidfisher1735 Күн бұрын
Vote Act
@PaulHarris-w6z
@PaulHarris-w6z Күн бұрын
@@davidfisher1735 yea, gave my party vote to ACT for the first time because Seymore makes more sense than anyone else in a party leadership role . He has delivered pretty well so far. Next time all going well they will get both electorate and party vote. Luxon has burnt his bridges
@lisac1619
@lisac1619 Күн бұрын
He or the party? Stop voting National. Stop being blinded by the fall guy. It's the oldest tactic in the book
@garycody1929
@garycody1929 Күн бұрын
See how uncomfortable the gutless wonder became when Sean started talking.
@douglasrushbrooke786
@douglasrushbrooke786 Күн бұрын
This is so wrong National Needs to read the room one vote one person
@davemonster2
@davemonster2 Күн бұрын
Everyone currently only has one vote? Do you think Maori get two votes during the election? Because if that's true your whole base is fundamentally flawed
@bugseecooper940
@bugseecooper940 Күн бұрын
For those of us who voted for change he has just told us all to get stuffed ! plain and simple !
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@bugseecooper940 Ah but you believed him?Remember you get what you voted for!!!!!@
@jasperhorace7147
@jasperhorace7147 Күн бұрын
@@alistermacpherson7120 People believed Ardern and look what they got - the only source of truth - her truth which was all lies.
@bugseecooper940
@bugseecooper940 Күн бұрын
@@alistermacpherson7120 No my party vote went to ACT. My local MP vote was National
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@bugseecooper940 Well if that made you happy & has delivered for you then well done
@roilhead
@roilhead Күн бұрын
He has to go. New blood that can deliver in his place.
@Ps119
@Ps119 Күн бұрын
Luxon needs to go.
@jenniferquinney7879
@jenniferquinney7879 Күн бұрын
Luxon your coalition party is doing well. unless you honour your partners we will not be voting for you again. David and winston will get our votes. David stick to your guns don’t change it for Luxton as nothing he can add. all New Zealand has a responsibility to read and discuss together and come to an agreement as one.
@argondemad8024
@argondemad8024 Күн бұрын
Well said🎉
@JohnEBadham
@JohnEBadham Күн бұрын
Winston is voting against Seymours bill also at the second reading. Pay attention!
@andrewnoble9199
@andrewnoble9199 Күн бұрын
Luxon resign
@fatbastard70
@fatbastard70 Күн бұрын
100% agree.
@standbytogo123
@standbytogo123 Күн бұрын
I have read the bill and it appears straight forward to me. No controversy there at all. If all Te Pati Maori can make of it is to criticise it for only being four pages long after all of their rhetoric regarding how it will tear the treaty up it just shows how inept they are. They have lost face. If they cannot comprehend the legal language of parliamentary bills and Acts then they should not be in Parliament. They have spread lies, propaganda and general scuttlebutt about this bill ever since it was proposed. They have used scare tactics to rouse their own people who are marching to Parliament to protest. They have egg all over their faces. As does Luxon.
@philmills2970
@philmills2970 Күн бұрын
I will never be voting for National again I am now a 100% Act voter
@standbytogo123
@standbytogo123 Күн бұрын
I will be writing to my Local National MP and advising him that he has just lost my vote. Act will be getting both my votes at the next election.
@robinlecomte1242
@robinlecomte1242 Күн бұрын
Can I suggest, that you "spread the word", one letter is not enough, make it "many", give NZ Post a headache. Advice - the letter needs (+rules) - to contain your name (nom de guerre or fictitious names - not acceptable), residential address and be polite - anything rude, will see it composted. In your electorate - compose a letter and ask those you seek to do the same thing, use that letter (one version is acceptable in these circumstances) - but the same +rules apply to all - Good luck.
@foggycoast
@foggycoast Күн бұрын
Keep giving them the electorate vote though, because there's little chance of getting an ACT or NZF local MP in. Use your party vote to force a coalition where ACT and NZF will be stronger than National. As an example Taieri (South Dunedin plus Mosgiel and Milton) electorate would have got rid of Ingrid Leary (Liebour) if everyone who voted for the NZF candidate had voted for the National candidate instead. This safe Labour seat wasn't that safe after all.
@robinlecomte1242
@robinlecomte1242 11 сағат бұрын
@@foggycoast Hmm, whilst I agree with your thoughts, to make a bigger impact you need more MP's who will stand in an electorate. If you have watched the recent UK Gen elections - you will see that Reform achieved an interesting result. Good on then but ( always a but) - there is on 5 MP's, against 70 in the Lib/Dems Party - the only reason Reform did well, was because of Nigel Farage and already many in the UK "are walking their next GE vote backwards as Nigel has failed to live up to expectations"? Dear David Seymour need to up the anti and gather more people to become MP's and have a better selection system than what he has.
@foggycoast
@foggycoast 5 сағат бұрын
@@robinlecomte1242 They need to find seats that they have a genuine chance of winning, rather than divide the vote and let Labour win them. That's the problem. The Greens targeted that very cleverly and won 2 electorate seats, Seymour has held one seat that has guaranteed ACT's place in Parliament even when they polled very low, etc. Winston can probably win a seat again, as could Shane Jones, if they pick carefully. ACT should target a couple of rural electorates where National has been lacklustre, but it's tricky because farmers are stupidly loyal to National thinking it is the farmers' party, when it really isn't doing much for them, just speaking with a forked tongue. If ACT want to win there, they need to guarantee that they will oppose and ban any biogenic emissions taxes. Really it's up to Mark Cameron and Andrew Hogarth to man up and switch the farmers vote from National to ACT.
@Marysuegg
@Marysuegg Күн бұрын
Seeing the word 'Spineless' attached to Luxon a lot. Are his PR people aware the tide is turning against him? He seems as clueless as Kamala Harris! And he seems to be on the wrong side of a lot of issues.
@badchefi
@badchefi Күн бұрын
As soon as it doesn’t go your way you go full MAGAtard - maybe educate yourself a bit before making any more stupid comments.
@dave24-73
@dave24-73 Күн бұрын
Luxon is just scared of Maori I doubt he has even looked at the bill. He keeps saying it’s the treaty, 1840 treaty, 1975 principles bill, totally different things. Act are saying let’s review the 1975 bill, and at the same time leave the treaty as it is. What aren’t people getting here.
@khoorirune4573
@khoorirune4573 Күн бұрын
Most are just coming to terms with their stupidity
@argondemad8024
@argondemad8024 Күн бұрын
Exactly
@runforrestrun1965
@runforrestrun1965 Күн бұрын
Media simply not stating the truth. Pandering to a minority group.
@mxvega1097
@mxvega1097 Күн бұрын
He looked at it when Cabinet agreed to this redraft from the Seymour original. So if he agreed that it should proceed from Cabinet to the House to be entered on the docket en route to first reading, at what point did he not like anything about it? This is naive flipflopping on a huge issue, and he needs to be called on it. There is a point in the near future where this becomes a coalition confidence matter... like, just before the Budget is heard. THAT would be a massive outflank by ACT. Support the bill, or tank the coalition, no confidence and supply.
@dave24-73
@dave24-73 Күн бұрын
@ his stance has been the same, even before it was drafted, he clearly doesn’t want to upset Maori.
@1976funkster
@1976funkster Күн бұрын
Maybe it's time for the silent majority to stand up for their democratic right...
@roilhead
@roilhead Күн бұрын
Roll Luxon for a start.
@Matowix
@Matowix 17 сағат бұрын
March across the bridge. But we are white so it's not allowed
@Pedromanus56
@Pedromanus56 Күн бұрын
We voted for change Luxon. Do the follow through or fall on your sword mate.
@realistically-r7g
@realistically-r7g Күн бұрын
David Seymour is more intelligent than luxon,and this scares luxon !
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
You must have missed your last Specsavers visit
@TylerDurden-oy2hm
@TylerDurden-oy2hm Күн бұрын
Thats a stretch...Seymour has more experience in politics, remember that
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
But Chris is PM & has final say
@chrishall7051
@chrishall7051 Күн бұрын
@@TylerDurden-oy2hm That's not a stretch at all! That's beyond question. Luxon isn't particularly intelligent even within National party circles whereas Seymour would probably have the highest IQ in Parliament (although that's not saying much admittedly).
@TylerDurden-oy2hm
@TylerDurden-oy2hm Күн бұрын
@chrishall7051 beyond question?? Im not a clinical psychologist and i doubt you are, so what are you basing your statement on??
@TonyBro-t7q
@TonyBro-t7q Күн бұрын
Public vote problem solved it's called Democracy......?
@michaeltoohey1385
@michaeltoohey1385 Күн бұрын
If the National Party does not believe that the New Zealand Government has a right to govern, how can its MPs remain in governance?
@jamesthomas6611
@jamesthomas6611 Күн бұрын
That’s sad I’ll be switching from National to Act next election
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@jamesthomas6611 From bad to worse
@jeremysmith5232
@jeremysmith5232 Күн бұрын
Act are more fun to be a part of, switched last time and so glad I did, people who go to meetings are not all in their eighties like a national Meeting
@Rokker61
@Rokker61 Күн бұрын
@@alistermacpherson7120 Why?
@LaurineCurrin
@LaurineCurrin Күн бұрын
To encourage you, contact Act and get their weekly newsletter. It's amazing what they are achieving. Definitely glad I voted for David
@sherylwhite2201
@sherylwhite2201 Күн бұрын
FFS, doesnt Luxon know the difference betweenge Treaty and the Principles. He hasnt got a clue!
@Rokker61
@Rokker61 Күн бұрын
The bill will soon be up for public submissions over 6 months. I hope everyone here will make their anger and frustration known! Make sure you keep an eye on the ACT website with advice on making your voice heard loudly in Luxinda's ear!
@LaurineCurrin
@LaurineCurrin Күн бұрын
Agreed, imagine Luxons face if the Bill gets a landslide.
@roilhead
@roilhead Күн бұрын
Call for him to be rolled will stick it to him fast, he's on shaky ground.
@Rowanfbird
@Rowanfbird 15 сағат бұрын
Yes we ALL MUST submit
@geofflewis8599
@geofflewis8599 Күн бұрын
A coward like John Key who would not abolish the racist Maori Seats upon which the M party depends, citing 'hikois from Hell'. Shyt will happen when the M Party holds the balance of power..only a matter of 'when' not 'if'
@v8power4ever
@v8power4ever Күн бұрын
This country wont change for the better when we have people like luxon that doesnt have any balls.
@KC-580
@KC-580 Күн бұрын
Thats a shame. I wont vote national again!
@alistermacpherson7120
@alistermacpherson7120 Күн бұрын
@@KC-580 Wow National will go into a meltdown
@roilhead
@roilhead Күн бұрын
Luxon will be shown the door.
@lindamckenzie6500
@lindamckenzie6500 Күн бұрын
Luxon is weak and lilly livered .....not what we want in a PM...David Seymour...is correct in putting this treaty up for scrutiny...... .this outcome will do Luxon no favours ....
@henningaxt6961
@henningaxt6961 Күн бұрын
Luxon better get behind this or he will be toast!
@roilhead
@roilhead Күн бұрын
He's on shaky ground, wouldn't be surprised if he is rolled over this.
@JohnEBadham
@JohnEBadham Күн бұрын
​@@roilhead Read clause 4 of the National Party Constitution.
@ColleenGray-e7j
@ColleenGray-e7j Күн бұрын
Luxon doesn't hear. This is going to be his downfall. He has not woken up to the fact that most New Zealanders want this bill passed as we are sick of these judges making up principles that are fake and this is not democracy!
@MuzzaDemp
@MuzzaDemp Күн бұрын
Luxon is an invertebrate ! Seymour & Peters head & shoulders above him !
@JohnEBadham
@JohnEBadham Күн бұрын
Peters is voting against Seymour's racist bill also.
@peterx2067
@peterx2067 Күн бұрын
Weak and insipid to one side, Luxon can not see just how common sense these principles are and how damaging the current one-sided messy arrangement is. He hasn't exactly been embraced by voters, and I think to some extent, the jury was out on Christopher Luxon, but no more. He is shown himself to be what many of us thought him to be, the very weakest link in this government!
@PhilCollier-eh1dd
@PhilCollier-eh1dd Күн бұрын
I voted for Act to get rid of the treaty and Im special because Im a Maori, Hopefully David will lead our country one day, fand were the hell is Winston's support for this ?
@LaurineCurrin
@LaurineCurrin Күн бұрын
Winston's act I believe is yet to come, after Davids. Winston categorically states "there are no principles", so I am guessing that after Luxon squashes Davids really concise Bill, Winston will introduce a No Principles Bill. Let's wait and see. But if he does, what will Luxon do then lol....😂 if he squashes that too he's toast and so will National be too.
@Bonsqueesquee
@Bonsqueesquee 22 сағат бұрын
I voted Winston because of... anti wokeness.. but I honestly couldn't decide. Haven't seen much of old Winnie though?
@Rowanfbird
@Rowanfbird 15 сағат бұрын
@cameronwallace8833
@cameronwallace8833 Күн бұрын
Luxon lost alot of votes Today !
@kevinholling9645
@kevinholling9645 Күн бұрын
He has no courage,we are all born equal, make it so .
@jenniehaxton1240
@jenniehaxton1240 Күн бұрын
unbelievable so Luxon is saying in a big loud voice he doesn’t have a care for what NZers think He is on shaky ground now
@jask002
@jask002 Күн бұрын
This is exactly why I voted for ACT as I didn't trust Luxon as being any better than Jacinda, so well thank you Mr Luxon you are not a leader of the country, rather you are a petty middle management that has failed up to your current position.
@EpicTyme
@EpicTyme Күн бұрын
won't vote for luxon again, I'll be giving my vote to nz first
@susanpockett4314
@susanpockett4314 Күн бұрын
If more people had voted NZF last time we'd be a lot better off.
@JohnEBadham
@JohnEBadham Күн бұрын
NZF are also voting against Seymour's bill at second reading. Pay attention!
@migueltanongon8295
@migueltanongon8295 Күн бұрын
@@JohnEBadhambecause NZF would rather delete the references on this so called Treaty Principles which would far better.
@JohnEBadham
@JohnEBadham Күн бұрын
​@@migueltanongon8295 So why isn't Seymour supporting Peters instead?
@migueltanongon8295
@migueltanongon8295 Күн бұрын
@@JohnEBadham because as Mr. Peters is Eminem and Seymour is Stan somehow
@hhrfc671
@hhrfc671 Күн бұрын
Luxon is a Maori Activist. Funny that the ' Hikoi in Whangarei was made up of people in expensive Utes. They're grifters, the lot of them. I pay 28% tax they pay 17%, is that fair? The only two people preventing Luxon from handing everything over to Maori activists are Seymour and Peters
@badchefi
@badchefi Күн бұрын
Jealous of Māori doing well?
@Hatunrumioc
@Hatunrumioc Күн бұрын
@badchefi wait I thought Maori weren't doing well and that the rest of the country needs to help them? If they're doing well then they obviously don't need more public funds an I right? Or are some Maori doing very well but others not doing well? And if that is the case why aren't the Maori that are doing well, not giving money out of their own pockets to those not doing well? I thought Maori tikanga was all about looking out for each other? So why are their Maori with different amounts of money in their bank accounts?
@badchefi
@badchefi Күн бұрын
@ not all the white folks are doing well either. Your simplistic approach smells of stupidity.
@mike-v7s
@mike-v7s Күн бұрын
Anyone else jumping ship and voting Act next election?
Күн бұрын
I voted ACT on my party vote, next time ACT will get my electorate vote as well.
@garywheaton-lifewithgaz50
@garywheaton-lifewithgaz50 Күн бұрын
I vote act
@johnlynch4356
@johnlynch4356 Күн бұрын
I voted Act
@stephenoverton8500
@stephenoverton8500 Күн бұрын
Absolutely
@CharlieRavioli
@CharlieRavioli Күн бұрын
Already did it. Could see this train wreck coming.
@duanolckers6905
@duanolckers6905 Күн бұрын
I voted National. Very disappointed to see that Luxon can't see the good in the bill. The good in it seems to be obvious! So much for a government that I thought had common sense.....
@Kiwisail
@Kiwisail Күн бұрын
Seriously Luxon doesn't get it.
@Malcom4850
@Malcom4850 Күн бұрын
I dont think luxon will do very well in the next election
@marconesounds
@marconesounds Күн бұрын
He will retire before that
@donellaritchie
@donellaritchie Күн бұрын
I've been prior National voter but went with Winnie this time and Luxton has confirmed to me why I dislike and distrust him and won't be voting for him again. I'm very happy with David and Winston.
@margaretvanson3601
@margaretvanson3601 Күн бұрын
Luxon needs to read Sir Apirana Ngata's views on the treaty. This learned, esteemed Maori gentleman of the 19th century, clearly lays out what the treaty is and what it means. It never was described as a partnership or shared sovereignty. Queen Victoria wouldn't allow her own husband to share sovereignty with her. She certainly wasn't going to share it with a people she didn't know.
@_.Marz._
@_.Marz._ Күн бұрын
Because it wasn't her land to begin with. Greedy b a s t a r ds
@_.Marz._
@_.Marz._ Күн бұрын
Too bad. The old girl is LONG GONE!
@jasperhorace7147
@jasperhorace7147 Күн бұрын
@@_.Marz._ as should be the treaty.
@barneyboy2008
@barneyboy2008 Күн бұрын
Maori never signed over sovereignty. They gave governorship, but nothing more. Why would 100k give sovereignty to the 2k Europeans that were here in 1840. Tell me that Marg.
@jasperhorace7147
@jasperhorace7147 Күн бұрын
@@barneyboy2008 You talk of Māori as if they were a harmonious, homogeneous people. They were always at war with each other.
@Malcom4850
@Malcom4850 Күн бұрын
Luxon needs to grow some .. he has lost my vote..
@menziesdave1263
@menziesdave1263 Күн бұрын
Because Luxon is surgically tied to his instructions from his mentors at Blackrock.!!!!
@Bonsqueesquee
@Bonsqueesquee 22 сағат бұрын
Still in the back of my mind, Key "approving" Luxon... then flashbacks of Key at WEF
@menziesdave1263
@menziesdave1263 21 сағат бұрын
@@Bonsqueesquee Yes mate, the bastards are ALL in bed together & do NOT have NZ'ers best interests at heart. Bordering on being traitors!!!!
@erniepeterson9569
@erniepeterson9569 Күн бұрын
Looks like I will not be voting for national again
@unSTEVOED
@unSTEVOED Күн бұрын
Ask Luxon why he thinks it's racist. It sounds like he wants a Job with labour. He's reading from the script as Ardern
@kiwiingrid
@kiwiingrid Күн бұрын
He's either thick, being blackmailed, getting $$'s, or wants chaos.
@stephaniepreston8923
@stephaniepreston8923 Күн бұрын
Or maybe, all of the above.
@badchefi
@badchefi Күн бұрын
You are definitely thick.
@edHinson-wc9jr
@edHinson-wc9jr Күн бұрын
Luxon is toast just another John Key.
@erinloo8921
@erinloo8921 Күн бұрын
Yep Obama was another hero oc his ...ask yrself!!!
@andrewmann3787
@andrewmann3787 Күн бұрын
Hes just screawd us
@marcoantonioperin2187
@marcoantonioperin2187 Күн бұрын
He's a traitor.
@brent2040
@brent2040 Күн бұрын
Luxon is a disappointment. Definitely won't be voting national any time soon.
@bigboy0625
@bigboy0625 Күн бұрын
How about letting the people decide on this. We must vote and my vote would bin the treaty and let's be 1 people!!
@alicedejanze4027
@alicedejanze4027 Күн бұрын
What a bloody disgrace Luxon is, we must vote him out at the next election.
@darrellwright5642
@darrellwright5642 Күн бұрын
History will judge the error youve made, prime minister
@sojourn6697
@sojourn6697 Күн бұрын
It’s time for National Party voters to realise National is past its use by date.
@TrevorCunningham-o1y
@TrevorCunningham-o1y Күн бұрын
Luxor’s stance on this will come back to bite him in the arse bigtime next election,he obviously can not read a room
@questor55
@questor55 Күн бұрын
John Key was a master of seeing which way the wind was blowing and was as flexible as a man with no spine. I wasn't a fan, but he was very successful as a politician. Unless Luxon can see something that I can't, he's misjudged the right wing voting block so fantastically that I don't see how he could get re-elected.
@tombrock6011
@tombrock6011 Күн бұрын
Go Sean, David, Winston, Shane……some real men
@runforrestrun1965
@runforrestrun1965 Күн бұрын
The man is a bit gutless. Why doesnt he and his team not support something so basic and would give all New Zealanders equal rights?
@LaurineCurrin
@LaurineCurrin Күн бұрын
National under Key gave TPM the ok to get UN Indigeneous Rights. Findlayson changed the Foreshore and Seabed to include 'Tikanga' and now Luxon is squashing Davids Bill. By the way, National is changing the Findlayson act as there's 600+ claims claiming the entire NZ coastline exclusively for Maori
@mikestevens85
@mikestevens85 Күн бұрын
I have never been so disappointed in a Prime Minister.
@echoromeo5879
@echoromeo5879 20 сағат бұрын
More disappointed than you were with Jacinda?
@leylandbarr7247
@leylandbarr7247 Күн бұрын
In the longer term it strengthens David Seymour’s standing.
@FAMEROB
@FAMEROB Күн бұрын
get him on the show, obviously he is being pressured or he doesn't wont the hassle, this needs to be a recurring discussion
@Longtimerolling
@Longtimerolling Күн бұрын
Someone must have something over Luxon, When something not's making sense.. there's something wrong.
@keitho9508
@keitho9508 Күн бұрын
National is going to lose support to ACT and NZ First if Luxon doesn't clarify his position. Clearly, he does support the right to govern etc but thinks the way the bill is worded is simplistic. Well, he then needs to be specifically asked if he supports a partnership governmental system etc. Without this clarity he will leak support.
@woofwoof9647
@woofwoof9647 Күн бұрын
The REAL Treaty was Simple as well , with NO PRINCIPLES !!!
@argondemad8024
@argondemad8024 Күн бұрын
It needs to be simplistic. Its a simple thing. Equal. Thats it. One word is enough.
@migueltanongon8295
@migueltanongon8295 Күн бұрын
@@woofwoof9647 hear hear
@woofwoof9647
@woofwoof9647 Күн бұрын
​@@migueltanongon8295 i have it here at home , All the Chiefs Signitures , Says Ceded Soveringty 4 times in the 3 Articles !!
@LaurineCurrin
@LaurineCurrin Күн бұрын
He's already clarified his position. He doesn't believe it and will do everything to squash it.
@IanHustwick
@IanHustwick Күн бұрын
I will resign from National if no support is forthcoming. And vote Act/Act next election
@alandickie1818
@alandickie1818 Күн бұрын
Act will do well from National's dereliction of democratic principles
@bronwynsearle2117
@bronwynsearle2117 Күн бұрын
Get rid of the treaty
@debthompson8706
@debthompson8706 Күн бұрын
I did vote National for the first time. I don't understand Luxon? He can't be bothered looking into it. Just like sooo many 'social issues in our country' I Will Not be Voting Luxon again. He is arrogant and ignorant.
@bronwynsearle2117
@bronwynsearle2117 Күн бұрын
@debthompson8706 and gutless 🙄
@sarahstirling3945
@sarahstirling3945 Күн бұрын
I agree get rid of the treaty in that case kick those that signed the treaty and the colonialists of today note immigrants out of Aotearoa...no treaty no pakeha oh no trade with our partners as per the commonwealth countries no trade so leavem maori will still be here
@petercreagh8797
@petercreagh8797 Күн бұрын
I don't understand what the problem is when millions have been paid out in settlements over the years
@sarahstirling3945
@sarahstirling3945 Күн бұрын
@@petercreagh8797 i should think so pakeha made millions from stolen land by pushing and killing maori as well as destroyed land for farming and paying the price today through land erosion i.e. floods and now using those funds to help maori as well as fix the land what your ancestors destroyed but note pakeha, maori is still sharing it with pakeha so you benefit too
@mikechristiansen6978
@mikechristiansen6978 Күн бұрын
Luxton is doing what his masters wont❤
@briansatchell2319
@briansatchell2319 Күн бұрын
Blackrock
@k3630
@k3630 Күн бұрын
Exactly
@nikkiddle4745
@nikkiddle4745 23 сағат бұрын
How is it possible that one of our biggest political parties cannot support democracy and equal rights.
@terryoneil1940
@terryoneil1940 Күн бұрын
3rd generation national voter never again he will rue the day
@bruceanderson1322
@bruceanderson1322 23 сағат бұрын
Me to! He needs to listen to the people who voted for him or get out.
@brucemacgregor3854
@brucemacgregor3854 Күн бұрын
I voted national, but with that attitude from him I will now vote for act
@hughheeney3554
@hughheeney3554 Күн бұрын
Having just listened to the Prime Minister, National and Luxon have lost my vote.
@gordonpotts9642
@gordonpotts9642 Күн бұрын
It reminds me of John Key saying NO to the people of NZ referendum.
@k3630
@k3630 Күн бұрын
This is world wide. Hes a stooge
@operatorsix6933
@operatorsix6933 Күн бұрын
bingo.
@DianeCottle-t6e
@DianeCottle-t6e Күн бұрын
Shame on you Luxton. Let’s see if Luxton starts to listen to the people and show he cannot be influenced by the minority. I find his stance is weak and disgusting. What has made me proud of being a kiwi and that we are equal. Luxton is very racist sadly and not here for the people. 🙏🏼
@badchefi
@badchefi Күн бұрын
It’s Luxon - are you retarded?
@badchefi
@badchefi Күн бұрын
ACT is a minority too😂
@MickeyDC-om3pv
@MickeyDC-om3pv Күн бұрын
The bill looks good. Makes the principles clear.
@colinrichards3012
@colinrichards3012 Күн бұрын
He is running scared.
@woofwoof9647
@woofwoof9647 Күн бұрын
There arnt any principles !!!
@nzkirsty6816
@nzkirsty6816 Күн бұрын
@@woofwoof9647 the Lange labour govt of 1975 created them….and have been snowballing in to legislation and decision making ever since.
@MickeyDC-om3pv
@MickeyDC-om3pv Күн бұрын
@@woofwoof9647 That's correct, which is why they are putting in a law that says what they are. NZ legislation always refers to the principles, which do not exist in writing. Great idea dont you thin k to write them down.
@woofwoof9647
@woofwoof9647 Күн бұрын
@MickeyDC-om3pv There are Not Any Principles , i have the Treaty here at home , They Ceded Soverignty Simple as That !!
@craigbaylis6684
@craigbaylis6684 Күн бұрын
Its about time we faced up to the fact that many of our young, hardworking & well trained Kiwi's aren't just leaving our shores to Australia for economic reasons, but they see themselves as second class Non-Maori citizens if they stay here & they surely don't want to raise their children to be educated & governed like they are second class citizens.
@CatherineAugust
@CatherineAugust Күн бұрын
200 years of Māori being treated As second class citizens....
@craigbaylis6684
@craigbaylis6684 Күн бұрын
@@CatherineAugust So the answer to racism is to install race based policies. Reminds me of George Orwells book Animal farm.
@CatherineAugust
@CatherineAugust Күн бұрын
@craigbaylis6684 but your not fighting for the acts that go against race based laws that go against Māori. The tohunga suppression act, the Prendergast ruling to name a few along with the laws that made it legal to confiscate Māori land. Not to mention how when the Maori battalion who by the way is the MOST decorated army in the entire NZ army history returned from WWII their lands were sold to Non Maori and they never got the same benefits as their Non Maori counterparts....if you enjoy reading try reading the Price of Citizenship....Have a lovely day Toitu Te Tiriti!
@craigbaylis6684
@craigbaylis6684 10 сағат бұрын
@@CatherineAugust Catherine I am aware of the many wrongs dished out to Maori in the name of the Crown, biased Judges & even by local councils but to replace Institutional Racism with a new improved form of Institutional Racism seems doomed to repeat history when the grandchildren of our Philippine, Indian and Island nation immigrants realise they are not equal under the laws of this land. Although if the unsaid truth of those supporting special treatment of one race over others is to cleanse this land of those who oppose their view then we could well be on the right track. But it doesn't have seemed to served Zimbabwe well.
@kiwicate123
@kiwicate123 Күн бұрын
Got to hand it to you Sean, you ask the right questions. Don’t like the answers you got.
@everobertshaw9285
@everobertshaw9285 Күн бұрын
Luxton has previously been away from this country for so long that he's lost All ability to READ THE ROOM. We need a Prime Minister with a spine and not a quivering mess around the foot stomping and outrageous demands of Maori. David Seymours Treaty Principles Bill IS the sheriff who's come into town to end this plundering monstrosity. Let's support him NZ, a lone beacon of light and honesty.
@Jane-q2u3m
@Jane-q2u3m Күн бұрын
He's been captured by Maori lore, etc. It happened to me. He needs to be rescued but he's attending Maori lessons. Good luck to us all.
@jasperhorace7147
@jasperhorace7147 Күн бұрын
Being brainwashed.
@bothafamily5002
@bothafamily5002 Күн бұрын
He is in for a hiding if he maintains that attitude. Shows incredible lack of political insight. He is turning out to be a great disappointment. Political wimp.
@marjon888
@marjon888 Күн бұрын
Skittle Luxon is as useless as Ardern.
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