Olight Baton Pro - All Hype? | Baton Pro vs. S2R II

[@omarspost]

Real world difference: S2r Baton II throws Baton pro floods.

[@marshish83]

That is the reason I actually prefer the pro. He makes valid points, but after carrying both outdoors, I actually love the pro! You don't even need to point it. It just lights everything up smooth and evenly!

[@Kornholeeoo]

Dude, solid, SOLID review! Probably one of the best light reviews I've seen. Thanks.

[@Dialysisforever]

I thought to get the 2000 lumen again, you just need to let it cool down. So you do not need to recharge to get 2000 again. I agree with you on which one I would choose.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

You are correct. I should have been more clear in specifying that once the driver cools down the thermal regulator will allow it to go Turbo again for a short time. Thanks for watching and Happy Holidays!

[@robertanderson1015]

I’m no flashlight expert but I appreciate the explanation about lumens and how our eyes perceive various levels. Lots of choices out there.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!!

[@DenisWithOneEn]

Personally the dealbreaker for me is the moonlight mode. 1-.5 is perfect.

[@LEO-rc3tq]

One more question how many times can you put the flashlight on turbo then let it cool down then on turbo for both s2r ii and pro. Also thanks for all the reviews and your option it really helps.

[@LEO-rc3tq]

Btw one thing is it just me or does the s2r ii baton and the pro look the same in lumens. I think it is do to the flood light of the baton. Also the light color looks better on the s2r ii than the pro or is that just the video

[@ohroonoko]

I own both. The Pro is in no way inferior or overpriced compared to the S2RII. I think those arguments stem from an expectation that the evolution to the Pro should be purely linear in perceived brightness and runtime. But this light has a different character. The clue is in the larger and more shallow head. Those 850 extra lumens combined with a larger diameter and more shallow head in the Pro give it a wider, brighter, floodier dispersion of light than the S2RII in every mode, and that's what separates the Pro. The Pro has a beautiful light dispersion that I think is rare in 18650 lights. Most lights have a brighter hotspot and the light falls off fast away from it. Therefore when recommending between these two, I ask if they prefer a more of a spot, or more of a flood. Also, the low 0.5 lumen in the S2RII is good, I thought I would prefer this to the 5 lumen low setting of the Pro; however, that wider and beautiful soft dispersion makes the low setting a real pleasure to use. As you described early in the video, the physics of light fall-off of light is not 1:1, it is inverse-squared (not a "perception" ; look up the inverse-square law of light which photographers use for flash photography). Therefore the 5 lumens in the Pro, though brighter, doesn't appear 10x brighter than the .5 of the S2RII; it appears only twice as bright. But the advantage is that it is a far more useful low setting because of that beautiful wide dispersion. Baton Pro FTW!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Like I said, it all comes down to personal preference and opinion. We can agree to disagree. I don’t prefer the beam pattern on the Pro. I prefer the beam pattern on the S2R. For my needs for EDC the S2R, or most Olights for that matter have plenty of spill for me.

[@lowammo]

The pro is not worth a $100+ more than the s2r 2 if you already have the s2r 2. If you don't have either, it's %100 personal preference. And remember the pro has less battery life to disperse the floodier 2000 lumens.

[@ohroonoko]

@@lowammo "less battery life"? The Pro has 3500 mAh CAPACITY vs 3200 in the S2R2. You're comparing RUNTIMES not battery life, based on a comparison between a focused beam and a flood beam. If the focused beam and the flood beam have the same candela, then the flood beam will require more power. If the focused beam and the flood beam consumed the same power then the flood will have much less candela than the focused beam. It's just physics.

[@lowammo]

@@ohroonoko Yes, 3500Mah and runtimes are still less

[@ohroonoko]

@@lowammo wow, you don't get it no matter how many ways the physics is explained lol.

[@marquidee994]

My biggest take away on this 21 minute video is the pocket clip from an S1R! But then again I am an Olight fan and have many of them. I got the Green S2R II and am currently testing the .05 lumen so two months from now we will see. New Years 2020. But I am at arms for my next Olight, either an M2R Pro or a Seeker Pro.(at least both these lights use the 21700 battery) I am planning to get one of these for my future trip where I will be going third world traveling with zero light and wet conditions. I currently EDC an S2 and yes on a daily basis I really only need 500 Lumens. Great informative video.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks so much for watching Marqui!! I bought the M2R Pro and it’s fantastic. I did a video on it with some beam shots. It’s fantastic!!

[@Arkie407]

I’ve used my original S2 constantly since buying it the day it was launched via “Battery Junction” website. Still carry it nightly for work, along with a blue Baton Pro & a brown S1R-ii. The Baton Pro has become my “GoTo” exactly because of the BROAD beam 600 lumen mode - PERFECT for much of my tasks at work! The S1R gets attached to my cap bill for hands-free close work. Absolutely LOVE the magnetic end caps!

[@georgebousgas5451]

Ok here we go .... The S2r baton 2 in my opinion is great it’s my second one as the first one I gifted it to a friend and wished I didn’t , I also own the s1r 2 but the runtimes are not as good as the s2r2 , so yes I agree having 400 lumens for 4 hours is insane and a lot of light, even though the pro is2,000 I too would rather have 2 minutes , but once the light cools down you can go to turbo again, but you will only use turbo if you where in a open area so the practicality is 400 lumens.

[@zoo2you]

Had to rewatch this one. Trying to decide what to buy on their Black Friday sale.

[@LEO-rc3tq]

Whish one did u get btw

[@practicalguy973]

Great point about the lumen perception to the eye. I've known that for years and more people need to understand that. It always made more sense to me to have less lumens and more battery life with better low mode spacing and also longer turbo times. The other thing with that is the harder you pull amps out of a battery the less efficient it is. So you loose more power and decrease run time with those 2000 lumen flashlights pulling 5-6amps in turbo. I'm still waiting for a flashlight manufacturer to made a double brightness mode spacing. To me it would be from moon to high: 1 lumen 4 lumen 16 lumen 64 lumen 256 lumen Turbo 1024 lumen. All doubling modes in brightness would be great!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

That mode spacing looks good! Essentially by doing it that way you are multiplying the lumens by 4x so the light would “appear” roughly twice as bright with each mode. I love it!! Thanks for watching!!

[@practicalguy973]

@@GearedTowardGear1 After thinking about it I guess it would be too many modes and annoy some people being 6 brightness levels but it could be hold from off for moonlight 1 lumen and double click for turbo leaving 4lm-256lm as only 4 modes to cycle through when the flashlight is on. What's also interesting is the law of diminishing returns with knowing that lumen rule. It means that all the flashlights I own that are 1000 lumen turbo and all have a 500 approx lumen high mode as the next lowest is not that much difference in brightness to the eye between but using 500lm is doubling the run time of turbo!

[@jonilantonio6492]

I about to purchase the PRO but things change after this review..thanks mate very well said

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks so much for watching!

[@Eric2300jeep]

Thanks for the great tip on the pocket clip! Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a clip that resembles the one you show here... even on their website. Thoughts? Anyone know where to get it?

[@GearedTowardGear1]

ADDITIONAL NOTE: Although I didn’t specifically mention it (and should have), some of you may have picked up on the floodiness of the beam on the Baton Pro. It was certainly designed to be more of a flood light and less of an “all-purpose” beam like the S2R. My personal preference is for the more (in my opinion) versatile beam like on the S2R which provides a good combination of throw and spill/flood. If you LIKE a flood type beam pattern you may prefer the Baton Pro. When I mentioned the 2,000 lumens stepping down after a short duration I said that you won’t get turbo again until it’s recharged. I misspoke, what I should have said is that once the thermal regulator cools down sufficiently you will then have access to turbo gain for a short time until it heats up again and so on...

[@cardinalfang7725]

Good you pointed that out because I thought it was real obvious. The Pro lit up much more of your backyard, covered more area, and was still pretty strong on the shed. It's definitely a flood light as opposed to a spot. I'm not a "Fanboy" as many of these people call themselves. I agree with you GTG, I think there are better lights, but it's the blue color, that's it, it's blue. The blue Pro sold out like a bat out of hell. They collect every color of the same flashlight and display 'em. Hey, I don't get it, but it's their money not mine. More power or lumens to 'em.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Cardinal Fang - amen brother! Thanks for watching and have a happy holiday!

[@georgeseriani2482]

How did you get a blue one? They only made them in black desert tan and oD green

[@rodrigoba1851]

Super interesting what you say about the eye perception on the lumen output. I had that same idea and now thanks to your explanation I confirm that thought. Nice video man!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks so much for watching! I really appreciate it. All the best!

[@ohroonoko]

The step-down time from turbo listed on the packaging is an estimate. In real world testing, turbo can last a lot longer than that. It isn't a 60-second timer step-down; it is a thermal-triggered step down. Maybe you can follow up and test the real world step-down times on various flashlights in a future video.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

It shouldn’t be an estimate. It should be based on the manufacturers testing using (usually) ANSI standards. I’ve tested step down on dozens of lights and have never found a light that runs SO much longer than the advertised time to consider it statistically significant. I’ve had several run shorter, and several run longer, but generally no more than 10-20% longer. Even if I did test it, it would be in an uncontrolled environment, so any results would be anecdotal at best.

[@ohroonoko]

@@GearedTowardGear1 might be a cool video. I have never seen anyone test this on KZbin across several lights/manufacturers. Keep up the great work!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

ohroonoko thanks! Maybe I’ll do a head to head between some Olights, then another with some other manufacturers. Could be fun. Thanks again for watching.

[@georgebousgas5451]

Love the video very very good I have bought a second s2r baton version 2 again, I have a question for you once you use turbo and the light cools down can I use turbo again?

[@LEO-rc3tq]

Yes u can but idk how many times

[@LEO-rc3tq]

Yes u can but idk how many times it can redo it

[@OutdoorGearAddiction]

Well done GTG. Thank you for the info. Bout to order now!

[@RecklessFables]

I missed the s1r winter so just ordered the Baton pro in titanium. I am thinking the flood beam will be good for a more "light up the room" use-case

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey thanks for watching! Yeah, the flood beam on the Pro can certainly be useful. It’s not my EDC preference but for the application you mentioned it’ll be great. And they Titanium color looks so good!

[@looseballs1966]

@@GearedTowardGear1 Correct me if I'm wrong but because the baton pro is more of a flood than the s2r baton 2 it uses those extra lumens to "fill" that wider beam with more/brighter light? I could swear I heard or read that somewhere...anyhow I like most things flashlight (FLASH LIGHT NERD LOL) and recently Olight has had my attention to the tune of just over $850 spent in the past month in the Olight store (I got bored with Fenix my other favorite brand), but talking about the baton series I like all the baton series but my favorite would be the original S2, S2R, or the S30R, I own a couple of each of those and like them because you can spin the pocket clip around to cover the switch and protect it from turning on (electronic lockout doesn't do nearly as good)or hurting the switch while in your pocket (better than unscrewing the tailcap also because you don't compramise the waterproof factor.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Yes you are right about the Baton Pro. It was certainly designed to be more of a flood light and less of an “all-purpose” beam like the S2R. My personal preference is for the more (in my opinion) versatile beam like on the S2R which provides a good combination of throw and spill/flood for EDC. If you LIKE a flood type beam pattern you may prefer the Baton Pro. However, I think that for most people, in most EDC scenarios, a good combo beam is more useful than a flood beam like we see on the Baton Pro. And frankly I’ve been using the Baton Pro around the house. I keep it on an L-Dock in my office, I just don’t carry it for EDC but it’s a perfectly good light. And like you, I spent about $800 in the last month on flash sales, lol. Thanks for watching!!

[@BigRedEDC]

Kinda odd they put a much weaker clip on the larger light! There is a noticable difference between the 2 but not drastic as you stated. Looks like the pro has a bit more flood where the S2R is a slightly more focused beam! Thanks for sharing brother!!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

You’re exactly right, JB. The S2R is more of a “combo beam” with a decent hotspot but also a bit of flood (my preference of course), whereas the Baton Pro is designed to be more of a dedicated flood beam. So for those who like floody lights they may prefer the Pro.

[@monkeyfaceII]

Nice great video I appreciate the beam shots too! Cool tip on getting a clip from Olight. Pretty excited to get my s2R Baton II

[@TheCmorton]

You should review more olights that you have! I would love to see comparisons or use cases for each light you have in your collection. Keep up the great videos! really enjoying them.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks so much for watching Chris, and for the kind words! I definitely plan on doing a series of videos on various Olight flashlights. I did just receive the new M2R Pro Warrior and will be filming a video on that light very soon (it’s excellent by the way!), hopefully I’ll have that posted within the next week. Thanks again for your support!

[@TheCmorton]

@@GearedTowardGear1 Sweet! I am looking forward to it. Have you looked at the seeker 2 pro ?

[@GearedTowardGear1]

I sure have - I bought a Seeker 2 Pro when they were on a flash sale several months ago. It’s a great light, crazy bright. It’s not super practical my my personal needs, but I keep it on a charging dock in my office in the event of a power outage. Seemed like a good use for it.

[@TheCmorton]

@@GearedTowardGear1 Searching for a flashlight thats larger than the S1R II to put in backpack as backup larger light. Do you have any recommendations? Thanks again. :)

[@GearedTowardGear1]

I want to say the S2R II, but it’s only like 100 lumens brighter than the S1R, it just lasts longer. The Olight M2R Pro would be a candidate, but there are also a couple really great budget friendly lights that I’d certainly recommend: the Sofirn SP31 V2.0 (1,200 lumens, $35), or even the Sofirn SP33 if you’re want something stupid bright (2,500 lumens, $40). I should have a video on both of them if you look in my “flashlights” playlist. I have several lights from Sofirn and I highly recommend the brand, the quality you get for the price you pay is, in my opinion, unmatched.

[@Brandon_Neil]

For fixed items you want to illuminate the wide defined got spot of the s2rii is great. But if your moving with the lights, or your target is moving, the smooth flood light is much easier to track a Target or walk around at night with.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Very true. I like the S2R personally because it has enough spill for my EDC needs, but I certainly see the utility and preference that some may have for a floodier beam. Thanks for watching!

[@ChaplainDaveSparks]

What would really be good for the Pro is to have all the same lumen outputs *PLUS* an additional 2000 lumen mode.

[@BlackGT1999]

I thought candela was intensity (the hotspot)?

[@GearedTowardGear1]

It’s the intensity of light in a given direction. So yet, a light with an ability to put a hotspot on an object at a long distance will have a high candela rating compared to a flood light for example.

[@The420milkman420]

Hey I’m looking for an edc tactical high lumen flash light with a magnetic tail cap what would you recommend

[@GearedTowardGear1]

The newer Olight M2R Pro is really good. I like that one quite a bit.

[@The420milkman420]

Geared Toward Gear does that light also have a magnetic tail cap for hands free work

[@GearedTowardGear1]

James Yurkovic - it sure does!

[@remb9614]

I have to disagree, only because I already bought the pro.lol. I wanted to upgrade my s1r2 and I just wanted something a little different

[@bodean2000]

I prefer the super soft hot spot on the pro vs the 2 but I'm a big fan of floody lights. Great review, Thanks

[@stevensanders5881]

Do you have a part # for that clip? Olight sent me one, but it extends up past the bezel. It is not the shorter version like you show here.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Yohey Steven, I cant find them listed on the website currently because they have it in a sort of standby more for Black Friday, but the clip I buy is made for the “S Mini”.

[@stevensanders5881]

@@GearedTowardGear1 I just received a reply from Dennis at Olight. Apparently the "S mini" clip isn't available right now, but they might have more early next year.

[@wesleywood3919]

I bought several of the baton pros during the flash sale, and I love them, and carry one daily. With that being said I can see why the S2R is your choice as I have several different models of the O lights. The warrior x is my favorite but not my daily light. My favorite thing about these lights are the magnetic charging set up, especially with an L dock, and the quality seams pretty good to me,

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Wesley, thanks so much for watching man! The Baton Pro is certainly a great light. If not I would have bought 4 of them, lol. I can see why a lot of people would love the Baton Pro for EDC. It does have a really nice even flood beam pattern which a lot of people really love. While I prefer the S2R for EDC I have been using the Baton Pro around the house quite a bit. I’m also a big fan of the Warrior X, I love that thing! Thanks again for watching - all the best.

[@Shadow-o3w]

s2r for EDC to spot targets while the pro for camping or using in the woods at night for more surface coverage so wife and kids wont be so scared

[@artinsahakyan]

Hi, Do you know after its thermal protection throttles it down can you use the turbo after it cools down or you have 1 min turbo per charge ( which is kinda annoying) thanks

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey thanks for watching! Yeah, once it cools down you can throttle back up turbo again like on most lights. I agree, not super practical and kind of annoying. Thanks again for watching!

[@artinsahakyan]

@@GearedTowardGear1 I am asking because you mentioned around 10min in the video that until you fully charge the flashlight you won't be able to turn on turbo again or as you said experience it. :) :P

[@believe8263]

You don’t need to fully charge the Baton Pro to get the 2000 lumens. It only steps town to cool off and after a couple minutes you can easily turn it back up to 2000 lumens. You can do this repeatedly.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Absolutely. I misspoke in the video, I think I added a pinned comment to correct that. Thanks so much for watching & for commenting. I appreciate the feedback and keeping me accountable. Cheers. 👊🏻👊🏻🍻🍻

[@believe8263]

@@GearedTowardGear1 Cool. I missed that comment. Thumbs up,

[@CoordinatedCarry]

Yeah, that Pro really floods the area. I think it comes down to philosophy of use. Both are great.

[@henryrussell2404]

when using non olight 18650 batteries, does the torch still prevent over discharge ?

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Yep

[@Nefariouspvp]

the 1 minute step down for turbo doesn't "reset" once you recharge the light. You will be able to use turbo again once the light cools off sufficiently

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Very true, I should have explained more thoroughly the process by which the light uses its thermal regulator and will bump back to turbo once it is sufficiently cooled down, albeit only for a short time before it heats up again.

[@larryprimm5204]

The pro flashlight is good but the drawback is it doesn't have distance power and that is a big flaw for a lot of power.

[@anthonyperry4162]

Don’t forget to take out the battery protector inside before use…otherwise you may think it doesn’t work

[@ModernSurvivalSense]

The beam shot imo showed a distinct difference, with the s2r having a more defined hotspot and the baton pro being more floody. I agree for general edc the s2r is probably a better choice, especially with the 60 day moonlight. If I need more lumens, the Seeker 2 Pro is the go-to.

[@KnifeWatch]

Highlight of this video for me is the pocket clip replacement. I’m new to flashlights so comfort over output is my priority at the moment

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Right on! Thanks so much for watching!

[@kienfung3045]

I have the Thrunite T1, love the Infinity adjustment and the higher output and bigger battery. I'm also intererested in the Mecarmy SGN7. Can you make a vid about it? Thanks you.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks for watching!! The T1 is a great light! Is the SGN7 the keychain style flashlight/alarm combo?

[@kienfung3045]

@@GearedTowardGear1 Yes, Mecarmy is an alarm, s.o.s. powerbank aswell. There's not much vid about it. Thanks

[@vicksventure]

Do you have a link for the mini clip you use?

[@hazelcreekheritagefarm8092]

Hey buddy .. thanx so much for your review. It means a ton because I just purchased the baton ii. That makes me so glad I did🤟

[@ugatobekittenme]

Hey, I just bought the S Mini pocket clip but it turns out to not be the one you showed in this video, the s1 mini clip on their website looks like it doesn't have any retention, could you clarify exactly what model clip you buy?

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey! The pocket clip I purchase is the “S Mini”. I just checked the website and my past order history to confirm.

[@ugatobekittenme]

@@GearedTowardGear1 they sent me the wrong clip, the right ones are in the mail now, thanks again!

[@cornholius]

Very good information, but after watching this and passing on the Ti pro version a few weeks ago, i changed my mind and bought it thinking i could return it(for $23 more than it was). I really like the titanium otherwise id be ok with the other/cheaper variations. After testing them in the dark, my overall favorite is the s2rII because the beam is more pleasing to the eye. Aside from that, they have totally different emitters. The pro almost looks like a mini seeker 2 proportionally. The opaque reflector lends to a more spilly light which I can definitely appreciate for certain tasks(mainly hands-free usage when I need more coverage). The S2r is definitely more of a traditional mirror reflector, although its very shallow so its not throwing light any kind of serious distances. It just focuses the light instead of refracting it, so I would say apples to oranges. Different tools for different jobs. From an EDC standpoint, maybe one is better than the other. but I use my lights for so many things including work so I can't think that unilaterally. I'm surprised they didn't make the S2rII out of ti though since it seems like there has been an overwhelming demand for it ever since that run of Ti S1r's. Not sure if I'd actually want a warm led flashlight, but a neutral white bead blasted titanium S2r would be freakin sweet. Gonna end this rant soon, but one last thing I will say is that the copper versions have the best feel to me, but dang that reactive metal really smells when you sweat on it. With gloves that reaction doesn't happen! I found out it's not actually the metal you're smelling, but volatile bio-compounds produced from us!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Very well said! Thanks for watching Jesse and for the feedback!! Have a happy holidays!!

[@seanpennington1874]

Good to know I can switch out that clip. I've broken at least three of them from snagging on stuff.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Sean, thanks so much for watching! They definitely struggle with their clips sometimes.

[@LaurMontza]

How many time you can get turbo Pro vs S2R II.At H2r nova max 10 times turbo and not necessarily held for 1 minute and 10-20 seconds x (10 times) and you still run out of turbo.I have to know if they do the same thing,it remain out of turbo fast?

[@GearedTowardGear1]

They’ll both run on turbo until the thermal regulation bumps them down. Once the light cools down enough you can bump right back up to turbo. You can do this as many times as you want until the battery goes dead.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

I haven’t tested it to see how many times you can get turbo before the battery runs out, mainly because I don’t personally use the turbo setting often at all.

[@LaurMontza]

Thx!

[@Manic.miner2077]

As a laymen what is the point of having a torch where it’s max brightness only lasts 60-120 seconds? it just sounds like marketing crap to me, not mention it’s borderline lying.

[@ianmaw66]

I very much appreciate your honesty. I also like the long form of the video. Thanks.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks so much for watching, Ian! You’re more than welcome.

[@Kornholeeoo]

The little baby S1R Baton II has got more people hooked on Olights than any other one yet. There are tons of people on the FB group who will attest to this. It's fantastic at 1000 lumens. Most of my hunting buddies all have one and mine is in my pocket every day I leave the house for the past 3 years.

[@T.Q.]

Good in-depth review. I would like all reviewers to mention the Candela power on these torches. Everyone is so focused on the lumens but not paying as much attention to the beam intensity (candela). The S2R II has almost half the lumens of the Baton Pro but still throws light further out because of this. The Warrior X has a 300, 600 and short 2000 lumens but even the 300 would outshine both these lights at full power because of the 74,000 Candelas.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Amen! Thanks so much for watching!

[@joshuac.2503]

The Baton pro is definitely a more floody light whereas the S2R Baton II has a more focused beam pattern. Thanks for the side by side. I carry an S2R Baton II daily and I purchased a Baton Pro but I have yet to remove it from the box and after considering your points I’m thinking about selling it and sticking with my trusty S2R Baton II.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks so luck for watching, Joshua! You’re absolutely right about the Pro being a flood pattern compared to the S2R being more of a combo beam. Some people love a flood pattern, and it functions well in thsy capacity I think. My preference is for the combo beam which is why I prefer the S2R, and although it’s not quite as bright I don’t mind the trade off for a bit more runtime. You can’t go wrong with the S2R that’s for sure, but the Pro isn’t bad either, just not the major upgrade I hoped it would be. Thanks again for watching - all the best!

[@vinhha6073]

Sir can I charge battery with out leave in the light..?? Do they have like docking charge..??? so I can use one and charge one..??

[@GearedTowardGear1]

It’s designed to be charged while it’s in the light, but you CAN charge the battery (or any spare batteries) using any standard Li-ion battery charger. You can get them online usually for as little as $20.

[@wesleywood3919]

I have both lights and I like the baton pro better, I do think both are great lights, according to the 4-1 ratio the baton pro is 25% brighter than the s2r. I carry a pro everyday for work and I haven’t ran out of power when I needed it on my carry light. I also think the beam pattern on the pro is better for up close jobs. Just my opinion

[@GearedTowardGear1]

That’s totally fair. I personally prefer the S2R for EDC pocket carry if choosing between the two, but the Pro is still a great light. I do use it quite regularly around the house. I keep one in my office on an L-Dock. Thanks for watching Wesley, all the best! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@intruder220]

I went to the olight store and I couldn't find the mini clips anywhere. Is there another source ?

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Not that I know if. Someone recently told me that they may be out of stock and removed from the website. I’ve also checked a few times and haven’t been able to find them.

[@fastdude2002]

Same, I can’t find them anywhere...

[@bakedbaker6097]

The braton pro is just another lens type for the baton family of lights. Id personally recommend the pro. I edc it daily works great from lighting up an entire area. I work in attics alot so a flood style light works better for me. I guess it depends on your daily routine on which light will work better for you

[@BenGeldreich]

Thanks for the review. I don't own a Olight yet. Looking at there black friday sale. Curious what you think about the S2R Baton II vs the S1R Baton II? I see that you have a Dessert tan S1R. Which one would you purchase?

[@GearedTowardGear1]

It really comes down to the how long they last (run time). They are just about the same light other than the size and the run time. They’re both great, so I would probably base it on which size you prefer.

[@arthurfranco9191]

I watched this video before When it was first released. I liked the information then and I like it now as I just finished watching again, however, I do have both the Baton Pro and the S2RII. I like both lights, but the Baton Pro is my EDC, I also carry the S1R at the same time. Unless I’m going on safari and will be away from a simple charging method, the run time in the Baton Pro is of little consequence. I use three if not five Olight flashlights every day and night. Watching KZbin videos I run my lights, I try to get the charge down enough to charge the lights back to maximum charge. Ironically the S2R is on the safe and is not in my EDC rotation. The charges have Lasted long and exceed my expectations. By no means is this putting your observations down. You brought up some great facts. The circumstances I have lead me to use the Baton Pro. Keep up the great videos.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

That’s awesome Arthur. Thanks for watching and for the feedback! The Baton Pro is a perfectly great flashlight & I do use mine quite a bit around the house. For EDC lately I’ve been preferring the S1R or even the I3T or i5t, but they’re all great and have advantages and disadvantages. I’m glad you found a setup that works for you! All the best my friend. Cheers!

[@michaelnedsmar9106]

Before i buy a product weather a Mod (ecig) , a pair of boots or a flashlight i dont just watch one review i watch loads before making my mind up and this is the best revue i've seen on the SR2. Unfortunately i was limited to my choice of Flashlights as i wanted one in Copper .im hoping i will be happy with my SR2 when it arrives tomorrow .

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Right on!

[@patrickvanovermeeren4513]

You are right about the way we perceive light. Good and interesting review ! ATB !

[@ohroonoko]

That's not "perception" that he was describing. That was physics. Specifically, the inverse-square law of light. Photographers know this very well.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

I’m going to use the inverse-square law in future videos. It’ll make me sound way smarter for sure. Thanks for watching!!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks Patrick for watching! Much appreciated!

[@kennethbartlett4836]

I have to disagree on many points. The light was meant to be a short range wide beam light, a flooder. Not at all a thrower. Just a different purpose. And your dinging it for it's lack of throw. Look at the spill brightness and width or the width of the hot spot. That's what it was designed for and where it excels. The S2R Baton 2 was meant to have a general purpose beam. Not a flooder or thrower. Most flashaholics have multiple lights...some for throw...and some for flood. Some in between like the S2R. Some for the tint (color) of the beam. Many lights (most) offer a 1/2 lumen moonlight level. It's nice to see some offering a higher 5 lumen moonlight level. Myself, I have MANY with the 1/2~1 lumen level...don't need another one. For folks who only want one light the S2R might be the better choice with it's general purpose beam. For those who are into flashlights and have many...the Baton Pro is a great choice for a short range wide beam light.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Kenneth, thanks so much for watching. I think your points and preferences are totally valid. For an EDC light I find the S2R, and really most Olights, to have a good amount of spill, so the extra flood on the Pro doesn’t provide much extra draw for me.

[@brucemcconnell1467]

I have the S2r(but not the baton II) and the baton pro in blue. The older s2r is io50 lumen. I will agree with you that the baton2 is about the same as the older s2r, partly because the light pattern is wider and not as concentrated in one area. I will also agree that firefly mode is too bright on the pro at 5 lumen and the s2r is at .5 lumen. have to admit, though, that the blue is really pretty which is one reason I bought it. I've carried the s2r for several years and will now use the light that matches my outfit best. (LOL)

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Bruce!! Oh I’m with you, the blue Baton Pro is gorgeous. And it’s a good light, just more of a flood pattern than what I personally prefer. But damn it looks good doesn’t it? Lol. That’s why I bought more than 1. Actually I bought more than 2. One of them is going on my next GAW! Thanks for watching as always. All the best!

[@111111111Tiger]

Perhaps someone else made a comment below? Replacement clip S1 Mini Clip. When I look this up it doesn't match the clip your referencing. I think you meant the S1 Baton Clip? It matches. Thanks for the video / info.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

It’s not the S1 Mini, it’s the “S Mini” - www.olightstore.com/s-mini-pocket-clip.html

[@simonvance8054]

Thanks for the info....2000 lumens sounds great but for 60 seconds?! What's the point?!..

[@Strikehard92]

Absolutely agree with you, I made the same decision with the Olight Seeker 2 over the Olight Seeker 2 PRO. Just 200 lumen difference on turbo but still the non pro version (3000 instead of 3200) can go on turbo for 1,5 times as long than the pro, same story with the rest of the settings, medium (same brightness on the pro and non pro version 300 lumen) 3,5 hours longer runtime on the much cheaper non pro version. For low and moonlight the difference is 20hours and 3 days. So I totally agree with you, rather go for the cheaper with a bit less lumens and longer runtime on high medium low moonlight settings. Thank you for a great review

[@romeoroze2357]

Hey Sean , How are you? Hey buddy what do you recommend for 14500 rechargeable batteries? I got a Nicron N7 on your recommendation I love it but has been using it on regular AA. I use it for work so I need a rechargeable setup.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

What’s up Romeo, great question man, I got you covered. You’ve got 2 options. Either option will work well, and they’ll both cost you around $20..... 1. Buy USB rechargeable 14500 batteries like these from Fenix. You plug the USB cable directly into the battery to charge them. These are good because you don’t have to buy a seperate battery charger, but they’re a little more expensive. Fenix ARB-L14-1600U 1.5V USB Rechargeable 1600mAH AA Batteries (2 Pack) with LumenTac Charging Cable www.amazon.com/dp/B07PVKVY1R/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vx-ODb01S1YC9 2. But EBL 14500 batteries on eBay. I’ve had really good luck with them. You can get a 4-pack of batteries for $10 with free shipping. rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273404482680 If you get the EBL batteries you’ll need a way to charge them. If you already have a charger then you’re good to go. If not I’d recommend this one because it works well, it can charge several different battery sizes, and only costs about $11: EBL Smart Rapid Battery Charger for Rechargeable 3.7V Li-ion LiFePO4 IMR Batteries 26650 21700 18650 17670 17500 14500 16340(RCR123), Ni-MH/Ni-Cd AA AAA C Batteries (Batteries Not Included) www.amazon.com/dp/B01D9TUL8Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YB-ODbFMN8E1V

[@romeoroze2357]

@@GearedTowardGear1 Thank you brother , I will look into them. As always keep up the good work.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Romeo Roze 👊👊👊

[@CrJediKnight]

I picked up the green S2R over the holidays and love it. I got it as a splurge and was worried if I should have gotten the Baton Pro. Looks like I made the right choice. I still might pick up the Pro if I see it on a quick flash sale though :D

[@ArndroidInc]

You and I think alike in this area. I don’t use the turbo. I don’t care to have turbo for such a short amount of time. My use of this light is the high setting which realistically is more than enough for an EDC pocket light. On a crime scene, to avoid contamination of evidence, I use a Fenix UC35 .

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Arnold, thanks so much for watching! Great minds think alike!

[@agvaquero8361]

I have the S1R, S2R and Baton Pro (amongst others)...but prefer the S2R for normal flashlight use, with the S1R for EDC.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Amen!!

[@KR-tf3zf]

Thank you for your video. As some others, I actually prefer the Baton Pro due to the wider beam pattern. I prefer to light up an area vs a spot. This of course spreads light energy over a wider area contributing to the decreased apparent brightness even though there are more lumens from the Pro. Just a technical note, the apparent difference in brightness is real (not perceived) and due to the logarithmic response of our retina. This is why we can see a firefly in darkness and other things in bright sunlight. Thank you for the tip on the clip but when I look at the S1 mini Clip on the Olight site it looks different from the one in your video. The one you show looks much more rugged than the replacement clip they show. Perhaps they changed their design which is a unfortunate. Please keep good quality reviews coming.

[@jeremyspaulding7735]

Great review and a lot of great info Sean to much light for me personally and my needs I like my lights small and with a tail switch but I appreciate all the info and definitely learned alot about flashlights in this one

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks for watching, Jeremy. I also tend to prefer smaller lights. As a matter of fact, I’ll be doing a video before long on my Top 5 EDC flashlights and the S2R is not one of them, lol. I also like tail switches. I don’t mind a side switch at all, but a tail switch would be my preference also.

[@TheRamsraym]

Is the magnet stronger on the pro?

[@2004wrxy]

The S2R is my all time favorite EDC light , EVER.....I carry it everywhere , on my hip in my own slip... Never leaves my side ....I was tempted to buy the baton pro next week when it’s on sale here in Canada ....but I’m glad I watched your vid , saves me money ! 2000 lumens for 60 sec.... and many other things ...ahhhh nope , no thanks S2R.... is the winner IMO...cheers man !

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Right on dude, the S2R II is where it’s at for me!

[@tommivuorinen5150]

RG2 Leather WORX after a minute it is 600 lumens and it is perfect light to walk on the woods. It lights very wide area because of better flood. For spotlight maybe S2r is better but for brightness this beats s2r clearly in real world. But I use it mainly for walks about 1-2hours so battery life is not affecting me as much as campers etc. Great light and bright as hell.

[@jjcahill8934]

Great review as always Sean! The longer and lower "moonlight" mode is a big plus to use in emergency and save your night vision. Beyond that in looks like a "flood" vs."spot" issue that is certainly an individual preference/use type choice. Thanks for your in depth comparison!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

You’re absolutely right. The Baton Pro is definitely designed as a floody light while the S2R is more of a “combo” beam which is my preference. But lots of people like floody beams so the Baton Pro will appeal to those with that preference for sure. Thanks so much for watching my friend!!

[@Gieszkanne]

You missed the candela! Both have the same candela even so the Pro (even 150 less) has almost 850 lumen more. That tells you that the pro is more a flood light than the regular baton. It spreads it light more. So its harder to compare. If the 2000l came out of the same reflector and lense you would see more difference.

[@LEO-rc3tq]

So 1 thing I want one of this for Christmas wish one should i get or should I get the sr1 plz help

[@LEO-rc3tq]

Or should I get the m2r warrior

[@LEO-rc3tq]

Never mind the warrior cost to much so should I get the pro or the s2r idk help me plz

[@LEO-rc3tq]

Also I bbn like the 600 lumens instead of the 400 but idk I'm a ass starter to this edc flashlights

[@LEO-rc3tq]

Also how many times can you use the turbo mode before it runs out I think that will change my mine a lot more

[@GearedTowardGear1]

For EDC I would recommend either the S1R or the S2R. Main difference is size, and the S2R will give you more runtime.

[@paulrayl9470]

My S2R was my first Olight. Now Olight is my go to flashlights. Got the Seeker 2 Pro and boy is that one nice.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Oh yeah, the Seeker 2 Pro puts out a lot of light. I had one for a while but I never used it so I sold it. Now I kind of regret it, lol.

[@paulrayl9470]

@@GearedTowardGear1 it's my go to work carry light.

[@jacobhauenstein]

Baton pro is definitely my choice, flood beam is perfect for edc, good for working on car with magnet sticking on the hood, and no hotspot pronounced. For throw I’d use warrior X pro right now, but I don’t use it nearly as much as the baton pro

[@dannyhalstead6524]

Excellent review. I wish more reviewers would go into the specs as you did. This video should be a cautionary tale of what to look for in a flashlight and not get stuck on lumen output alone.As in most things the devil is in the details. I am in total agreement with your position regarding the two flashlights and which is the best choice for EDC.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Danny, thanks so much for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. The Baton Pro is not an inherently bad light, but as you said the small details and things not as obviously perceived led me to my position of the S2R being the superior light when all things are considered. It’s just one man’s opinion, but I think it’s at least a somewhat informed opinion, lol. Thanks again for watching and for the comment. All the best!

[@remb9614]

I think your right on, it seems like they just turned up the s2r driver and the runtime seems to concur with that assumption.

[@docric]

Will have to try the s1 clip... good advice

[@ArkansasPublicHunts]

What’s your overall favorite edc flashlight as of right now?

[@ArkansasPublicHunts]

This video helped me a lot but I have to know if there’s something better than the s2r baton 2.

[@ArkansasPublicHunts]

I was going to get the baton pro but you changed my mind. What you said made so much sense.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey, what’s up Fletcher! That’s a really good question and it’s tough to say what my overall favorite is, but here are some that are at the top of my list. They all have different features, different battery types, user interfaces, etc. Dependinf on your personal preferences you may be drawn to one more than the others, but to me these are hands down the ones that I carry most often. I have lights far brighter and not expensive than these, but this is what usually ends up in the pocket. Olight I3T Streamlight Microstream USB Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 UltraTac A1 Olight S1R Baton II Olight S2R Baton II As far as the Baton Pro, it’s not a bad light by any means. If you like a flood pattern to your beam then you’d probably love it. I generally prefer something with a bit of a hotspot in the middle as well as some flood (which is why I personally prefer the S2R), but the Baton Pro is still a solid light for those who like flood beams. I’ve got mine on an L-Dock charger in my office and have been using it a lot around the house.

[@ArkansasPublicHunts]

Geared Toward Gear wow man! Thanks so much! That’s some pretty valuable information! I sure appreciate you helping me out. I’ll do some more research and I’ll let you know which one I go with! Maybe a good video idea for you would be an edc light showdown where you do a competition to see which light will end up as your number one edc light! Thank you again for all the help man. Have a good one!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

You are more than welcome my friend. I always enjoy interacting in the comments! I do have a “Top 5 EDC Flashlights” video planned, and I think all 5 of them are in the list I sent you, lol. But yeah I’ll be doing a video sort of like that pretty soon. Have a great week man. 👊

[@ugatobekittenme]

Very highly appreciate this video, I was very bummed after finding out the baton pro being released a week after I bought the s2rII, the reason I decided ultimately that I like the s2rII more is that it shares the same battery as the Warrior X, I take both when I hike at night for each have their own purpose, but the ability to have an extra battery that works in both seals the deal for me (even though I prefer the flood pattern of the pro) thank you so much for the recommendation of the pocket clip

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey thanks so much for watching! The pocket clip swap is a game changer for me! Like you said, the Pro does have a flood pattern which certainly makes it different from the S2R II and it has its place, I think a lot of people prefer the floodier beams. I think the S2R has a decent balance of hotspot and spill which for me makes its bit more versatile. Thanks again for watching, all the best!

[@paulhughes3961]

So if I didn't have a 1000 lm to compare to a 2000 lm and decided to buy the 2000 lm flash light my eyes would see 2000 lm.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Yes

[@dustingreene1921]

Love the honesty of your video

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks Dustin. I appreciate you watching my friend! It’s been a video with so much agreement and so much disagreement, lol. But I do appreciate your comment. If nothing else I always do my best to keep it real. Take care!

[@FLZach]

Awesome review! The outdoor comparison showed the major difference in lenses and outputs. Seems it would be great to have both lights. However, for someone who is looking to buy just one for now, I'm definitely sold on the S2R over the Pro as an EDC light. Great job👍

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks so much for watching Zachary! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@jasonhughes6417]

Interesting. I was just thinking of the pro, to replace my S2R II in my get home bag. But it’s a second light, to the rather floody headlight I also have, so the slightly higher throw and tighter spot on the S2R it’s probably preferable in my overall kit. I just noticed one thing about the clip. It’s one of those double back clips, allowing you to have it on your hat brim pointing forwards. However, since it’s mounted at the lens-end and not the bottom-end, a normal clip would allow this! Only a base-mounted Clip needs to double-back to allow this function.

[@ocomegashadowstacking5886]

Wow really nice looking edc Olight Flashlight review!!! :D

[@thebluegrass]

Great video. I definitely subscribed to your channel. I have the baton pro, and I totally agree with you.... It's over rated. I should have gotten the S2r baton. It would have been cheaper but kinda better at the same time, as far as specs. My dad will love it as a gift. Lol. I already have 2 s1r batons and I think I'll also go with the s2r baton for edc. Thanks again a excellent description of the two lights.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks so much for watching Taure. I’m honored to have you join the channel! I’m a big S1R fan, they’re great. The Baton Pro just sort of underwhelmed me. Honestly it’s probably mostly due to my preference for a combo beam with a decent hotspot and some flood like the S2R. The Pro isn’t a BAD light, it’s just very floody and not my preference for EDC. It’s well made of course and works just great, so I’m sure you’re dad would love it. That’s a generous gift! Thanks again for watching. All the best!

[@frostergaard]

Very honest and informative review!

[@KiwiPokerPlayer]

Thank you for making this comparison, it was excellent. I own the S2R II, use it daily and love it. I'm not a collector, I just want a good quality, versatile EDC light. I had been considering getting the Pro as I was under the impression it was an upgrade but after watching this I agree with you that it's actually a downgrade in every aspect. Also, with respect to your observation about perceived brightness when you double the lumen output, you're correct. It's due to the inverse square law of radiation. If you google that, it will explain why this is the case. It also applies to heat and sound.

[@Mailancarl]

Your comment that 2000 Lumens on the Baton Pro lasts only 60 seconds One time until recharge is absolutly the one that lets me stick to the s2r II :-) Fine Review! Kind regards from Germany

[@colliedogjoy]

He meant until cool down, not recharge. See comment above.

[@michaelknott4895]

The disappearance of a sublumen moonlight mode is definitely a light killer for me. I thought the m2r pro was going to be my next light but even that was a fairly lackluster upgrade. I don't really get what they were thinking. Glad they attached the two halves of the i1r eos though. That was always a serious flaw to me.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Right on, Michael. Thanks so much for watching man. I 100% agree with you on the M2R Pro and the i1r.

[@Hatchbm]

2000 lumens compared to 1150 lumens seems a lot better. I've got both on order (Christmas sale) so we will see. I got the S2R for free and the Baton Pro bundled with an i3UV for $66. I have heard the pocket clip is weak. Thanks for the review! Edit: After getting both and trying them out for a few weeks, I agree that the S2R II is better. 1. The S2R's .5 lm moonlight mode is much better for moving around the house late at night without waking family. The Pro's 5 lm is just too bright for this, IMO. 2. The Pro really is not that much brighter, though it is noticeable. 1150 to 2000 should be a lot more "wow" factor. 3. The Pro's flood pattern is wide and may not be the best tactical choice unless you are walking around in a large field outside and need the floodlight type of pattern. The S2R is more of a "spotlight" pattern and will require a lot more panning back and forth to cover a large area. I prefer the Pro when out walking the dogs since it covers the sidewalk and street well without having to pan/scan back and forth. 4. Love the Desert Tan color of the Pro. I wish the S2R II was available in Desert Tan. 5. The Pro is not that much longer, but I do like the S2R for every day carry (EDC). I find it really amazing that the S2R fits in my pocket much better than the Pro, even though the Pro is only slightly longer. So in summary, I agree with you and would recommend the S2R over the Pro.

[@luisflores6324]

Thanks for the video ut really helped me decide between both of them and I went for the S2R baton 2 in green ,its awesome but my favorite EDC flashlight is the M2r pro 1800 lumens 🤙

[@thatchanguy]

Wish I had seen this before getting the Pro. Agree completely. Will likely offload my Baton Pro Ti.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Chris, thanks so much for watching! I will say this, the Ti version looks stellar. And in fairness, the Pro does what it was designed to do very well in terms of providing a nice even flood pattern. I personally prefer to have a bit of a hotspot, but that’s just me. And yes the runtimes aren’t as good, but for around the house I think it could still be a good light. I have not carried the Pro at all, but I’ve kept it in my home office and have used it around the house a number of times. Maybe hang onto it for a bit and see how you like it. Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to watch, I really do appreciate it. All the best!

[@thatchanguy]

@@GearedTowardGear1 I might keep it, but you got me thinking and now I'm ready to head into the next price tier. If only I could get a light that was the lovechild of HDS and Elzetta... Still love rocking my S1R II though. Probably my favorite light right now due to its huge feature set and small size.

[@randyf.9188]

Valid points, good review!

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks for watching, Randy. All the best!

[@matthewtaylor3301]

Some very good points. Lumens sell, but as you've said, percieved brightness is a diminishing returns deal, and requires much more from the battery source at the cost of runtimes. Much better off with the S2R

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Matthew, thanks so much for watching. I know people’s time is valuable so thank you. I’ll have a review of the new M2R Pro Warrior coming soon. That’s an example of a really good and true upgrade with them fundamentally changing the light by using a more powerful battery where you get both brighter AND more runtime. Stay tuned for that review. All the best!

[@riffraff9000]

I have probably eleven or so Olights. But I didn't buy this blue Baton Pro, mostly because I had *just* bought the blue Seeker 2. Sometimes, Olight just releases stuff too fast for me. LOL. (BTW, for all the Olight haters out there, my EDC'd 1st gen S10R was carried daily from 2014 until I replaced it a couple of months ago with an S1R Baton II. The S10R had been dropped, beaten, and abused, but never failed. It now lives in the console of my car.)

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Hey Michael, thanks for watching man. I used to have an S10R as well, but I gave it away - great light. I still carry my S1A a lot as well, have had that one for at least 5 years. I’m the same man, I don’t get all the limited flash sale stuff because there’s just so much of it! And I agree it comes too fast. I guess that’s called good marketing, lol. Either that or I’m just a sucker. I didn’t but y the blue Seeker 2 but wish I did, those look really nice.

[@frankiejdwm_edc1037]

This is a great video brotha, gives alot to think about I'm currently rocking the s1rii, and wanted to step up to the pro but now I'm probably gonna save myself a couple bucks and pick up the s2rii. But that bead blasted Ti version of the pro is calling out to me a little bit its a battle between form and function.

[@GearedTowardGear1]

Thanks Frankie! For what it’s worth I will say this... although I didn’t specifically mention it (and should have), you may have picked up on the floodiness of the beam on the Baton Pro. It was certainly designed to be more of a flood light and less of an “all-purpose” beam like the S2R. My personal preference is for the more (in my opinion) versatile beam like on the S2R which provides a good combination of throw and spill/flood. If you LIKE a flood type beam pattern you may prefer the Baton Pro. And I’ve kept my Baton Pro in my office on a charging dock and use it around the house pretty regularly, I just don’t carry it. And I must say that Titanium version looks so incredibly badass! I was tempted to buy one just because it looks amazing!