Season 4.5 Starters Tierlist - Hero Siege 2

[@graxy_tv]

Vote for your Season 4.5 Starter! strawpoll.com/wAg3QW5Kdy8

[@corey3194]

Have a guide for the Solar Dash? Thanks!!

[@graxy_tv]

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[@Schnarchnase]

My starter would probably be Exo, because A.) I didn't get to play Solar Dash yet and B.) Leveling Marksman was the most horrible leveling experience I have had since quitting PoE.

[@wojciechsangorski1113]

Sadly I was running drones for my starter and when I was clearing h1 pretty comfortable, my duo was clearing h5 already with the same investment. The build is fun to use but it stands nowhere near the starter if he requires so much gold to clear even h3. Nice to see him in d-tier finally, cause I had to tell many people to drop the build before they start suffering on higher hell difficulties.

[@graxy_tv]

It takes a lot of cdr and when people are telling you to only pick up +skills on everything...that's what happens. I still think it's a decent starter, but a bit more of an advanced starter.

[@wojciechsangorski1113]

@@graxy_tv yeah I know it very well, I went not only for +skill items as you said but also invested in CDR, to the point when my drones had their buff for attack speed almost all the time with 2,5sec break between. From the definition, starters for the season should start the season nicely and this was terrible to play. Just a bad call with that build, I'm pretty sure you haven't tested it properly on leveling and it's transition to higher hell difficulties. As I said drones are nice but only when you have 50mln for starting gear. You can always just spend 5 mln for marksman multi shot items and clear h5 fairly easily.

[@graxy_tv]

@@wojciechsangorski1113 As mentioned in the video you watched, my definition of "starter" is leveling to 100 and blasting Hell 1. Not every starter build needs to be a Hell 5 blaster day 1 in white items. I understand transitioning it to higher difficulties is more advanced and costs more as it's an arcane caster. Also, I leveled it to 100 twice on stream in S4 beta without any twink gear and I had no issues. It's just an arcane caster.

[@casolg9047]

saw your other video about drone gunner build and was like, lets pick this as my league starter. now i see why it was a bad choice.

[@graxy_tv]

Definitely requires a lot of luck on cdr charms early and augment to feel decent. This was an oversight.

[@Schnarchnase]

Hopefully this won't overlap with Torchlight Infinite ss5🙏

[@graxy_tv]

I'd imagine it'll be a couple weeks after TLI

[@Drewtoe]

any chance we get a surgical blood letting build guide brother? thinking about league starting this 4.5 on HC

[@gustavocielo1170]

Is flame dash also good late game ? I played wm, but i had a really tough time going from h1 to h3 and then h5, still cant do it easily. I might swap to stormweaver or exo on 4.5

[@graxy_tv]

Solar dash Exo was first class to 100 and first Uber reaper hell 5 kill on day 1.

[@user-bv3bn9ds4g]

So when will S4.5 be launched?

[@raizzee7795]

4.5 Is not even confirmed yet.

[@graxy_tv]

4.5 release date has not been announced. PAS is taking their summer vacations and will announce more details once those are complete.

[@rovathin]

So, I'm new as of Season 4 basically, and I hear that parrots are garbage, but for a minion build I thought they'd be really cool to play. I know you say to play what's fun, and I agree, but I also want to make sure I'm not setting myself up for a much slower end game farm later on as opposed to other summoners. I know necro was overtuned this season so I don't expect that kind of strength. Are parrots as a pet build underpowered later on in your opinion? Thanks!

[@graxy_tv]

There's only 3 summoners. Necro, Shaman (Wolves) and Pirate (Parrots). Shaman is the slowest. Parrots are much slower than necro, but more than viable and very good for leveling. Anyone who says different doesn't know how to play the game.

[@rovathin]

@@graxy_tv Ah ok. I guess I mean for end game stuff, like speed farming bosses or doing ubers and such? Leveling with it feels really fun.

[@VacaAlpha]

I've started leveling a white mage but the single target while leveling was insanely low, not sure if skill issue or the class just lacks single target really

[@kkataPS]

dont use benediction without god gear, go satans mark instead.

[@graxy_tv]

1 point benediction for the cool effect. Satan's Mark + Soul Spurn for leveling. Get flat arcane skill damage everywhere. Go brrrr and cannot die.

[@Sodaoczy]

Single target on white mage is rlly bad

[@Nevalopo]

Ayo tell me more about that 6.7 bil flash freeze tho :O

[@graxy_tv]

He won't even tell me. :(

[@sk1x_712]

Where i can find some starters that u know, will show me exacly when to take which spell etc

[@graxy_tv]

I have several build guides

[@croket07]

Does fire exo have a good bossing setup later in h5? Thinking of starting it but dont want to fall off later.

[@graxy_tv]

Swap to scorching whip. Rank 1 Exo killed H5 Reaper Day 1 of season start.

[@thibo764]

@@graxy_tv u have a build for bossing?

[@Sodaoczy]

How is clearspeed for a starter necro bcs im debating starting demonspawn,viking or necro for 4.5 something with good clearspeed but that also has good single target and isn't that god damn expensive to start

[@graxy_tv]

Demonspawn probably the fastest here, Necro the most consistent and Viking the tankiest.

[@sifnix024]

great video but is there a reason you skipped talking about whitemage builds?

[@graxy_tv]

I didn't. I said they are all the same build and it's a 2 button playstyle.

[@Sodaoczy]

Also 0 single target

[@chownomultiverso2883]

Cannonball is meme, dps low.

[@graxy_tv]

Dps is low if you don't know how to put on additive damage while leveling.

[@graxy_tv]

Good thing you actually watched my last video where I specifically say the tier list is for starters to get to Hell 1 quickly as it's one of the fastest to 100 levelers. As for the rest of your comments, you don't have augments while leveling. Please keep on the topic of a starter. Thanks for watching.

[@badmojo8854]

I started as Cannonball and It felt terrible. Changed to a Multishot/trickshot, and it is a lot better imo, and the clear is much much better. I would rate It B, at best.

[@graxy_tv]

@@badmojo8854 I played it on stream today and had no issues leveling it. Just stacking additive damage and go brrr, but hey, it’s all opinions and I appreciate all the input!

[@Devonwilliams-zd1kc]

Slicing throw is actually pretty good to level with you’ll use it forever and they basically have a built in blink lol

[@notbeefttv]

Only thing I want for 4.5 is buffed Angelics prayge

[@graxy_tv]

St. Beefy's when

[@inyeon6757]

Cannonball rapidfire augment 7lv is fps10... so can't playing....

[@graxy_tv]

I’m 10 fps on most builds anyway :P

[@brunoa01]

hi graxy, sry my english is so bad to understand, can u explain me why this season have .5 part and why devs will wipe?

[@haiiry]

ruined economy

[@brunoa01]

@@haiiry its my first season, so I can't comment about that. although I find certain endgame items a little expensive like gabriels oath

[@Twiztin37]

@@brunoa01 Howdy Gabriels items will always be pricey as its one of the harder uber bosses and the entry to do this type of boss(money, skill and class wise) is pretty high.

[@graxy_tv]

S4 is being shortened due to PAS wanting more time to complete S5 as they are adding 200+ skill trees. As well as they are replaceing EAC with their own anti-cheat software that needs testing to combat cheaters/abusers.

[@benc2789]

Any idea when this league is ending/resetting?

[@graxy_tv]

4.5 release date has not been announced. PAS is taking their summer vacations and will announce more details once those are complete.

[@chronolily1301]

What is season 4.5? mid season reset?

[@graxy_tv]

Yes.

[@Fumacinhahs]

2:59 ROFL

[@Sanrez.]

Where is "Nuke start" tier?

[@graxy_tv]

It’ll be on the actual really real starter tier list of really realness.

[@paulangeloramos6506]

I'am a Poison Amazon 😢

[@mindelevation9428]

😂

[@ReactionsvideoTikTok]

Hi , help me please. How much charm +5 all skills (necro) ?

[@luischen9895]

Whats Season 4.5 mean?

[@haidora6243]

They might end season 4 earlier because the season is currently kinda fucked, reason are cheaters. Too many duped Items etc. Then there will be season 4.5, fresh start without duped items and hopefully no cheater so the game experience will be better again.