AoS 4: Sylvaneth vs Cities of Sigmar | Warhammer Age of Sigmar Battle Report

[@jtb818]

Dont know the sylvaneth player, but cudos for a knowing the army, playing really well and explaining it at the same time. Great watch!

[@jtb818]

Maybe you could have run the warsong at the end to give -1 ward to callis and toll? Amazing game!🎉

[@wtfserpico]

This was an awesome batrep. The pacing was great and the explanations of the hows and whys was spot on.

[@Failerist]

Really grateful guy and very good player thinking things through. Loved it, bring him back again asap !

[@andred.2823]

Very good battle report, it was great to watch 2 enthusiastic players having fun. Jacob should definitely be there more often, he explains what he does very well and just looks like that fun opponent you like to play against.

[@anokosecret9963]

Hell yeah Sylvaneth! My first love of AoS, i love playing the 'monster mash' formation :D

[@jansmrz1056]

Best report of all time :) Thanks guys you are golden!!!

[@reformedbugman703]

This is probably the best video you have had on your channel in a while. What a great game.

[@jim40k]

Great game! Must be the luck of the Irish! Great to see you on the channel again dude!

[@davidkey4272]

Great game. More like this please. Both players were awesome! Have the Sylvaneth player back again.

[@rmj2018]

Thanks for a great game, clear explanations and fantastic counterplays!

[@KevinPotter-w5c]

Really great and top marks for the explanation of everything was a true inspiration 👹👍

[@dm74691]

Great battle report! Thanks guys!

[@Strade8]

Great game! One thing I would like to see more when there is shooting involved is to check if all conditions are met. For instance I doubt on 32:00 that all have line on sight on Vedra.

[@Orkimedes-sc8ef]

Great battlerep, thanks you guys!

[@jasonhoyle-oo8km]

Great game. You both were very smart and tactical in your play.

[@skarren6580]

Absolutley love the sylvaneth army! Might i ever so humbly ask what was used for the "bushy" tree effects?

[@sylvesterofterra6168]

Enjoy this battle hoping for cities of sigmar win but both play so well can’t wait for more battles :)

[@JackCawood]

I think you may have screwed up the fusiler's shooting. If they use a move ability that is not move in formation, they go down to 12" range and 1 shot a piece.

[@mattyno964]

Yeah, I've also just realised if they Don't move and are fortified you then can't use the shorter range weapon ... I.e. you get charged > haven't moved > can't shoot in combat 😢😢

[@jean-francoisnormand673]

I was like, who’s Jacob? Then realized its Jake 😂

[@philipbowles5397]

I'm pretty sure Callis and Toll together are one hero - it's a keyword associated with the warscroll, not the individual models. So you do need to kill both to score Slay the Tyrant. This is why they can't issue two orders in a turn in a Cities army, for instance. The reason there's nothing specific in the rules about 'hero units' is that nothing in the rules definition of 'HERO' requires or assumes that a hero need consist of one model - it's just a keyword like INFANTRY that can apply to a unit of any number of models from 1 upwards.

[@Vonbrow]

I respectfully and politely disagree with your interpretation.

[@philipbowles5397]

@@Vonbrow I'd thought it was pretty clearcut until they mentioned the analogy with Stormdrake Guard. Now I'm rather less sure as, indeed, every model in a unit should have the same keywords as one another. Yet at the same time I doubt anyone would seriously argue that you can issue two Officar's Orders a turn from Callis & Toll, which suggests the hero is the named entity 'Callis and Toll' not either individual model. There aren't separate entities named Hanniver Toll and Armand Callis in this edition, just weirdly two Callises and Tolls within one unit.

[@wtfserpico]

@@philipbowles5397 If they are limited to using a single Officar's Order because they are only 1 hero then they should only be 1 hero for all other game effects too imo.

[@johnsnow5968]

Not in this instance. The battle tactic is "if a HERO is Slain." "Destroyed" is units (see "marked for the grave" tactic) but "Slain" is models. So indeed you're right, HERO is a keyword that the Callis and Toll UNIT has, but if you kill 1 model from that unit, that model is a HERO that has been Slain. And the cities battle Trait specifies HERO Units, not HERO models.

[@rollnycgaming2279]

Great game! But what a fool I was to actually hope for a Cities victory. They are my favorite but I feel like they struggle from 3rd into 4th.

[@johnsnow5968]

They're middle of the road if you use all the tools you have but many cities players myself included are playing an additional meta-meta-game of "boy howdy it does not feel like GW will let me keep this for more than a year"

[@WindsOfMagic]

Jake is such a national treasure.

[@ansgarblume3135]

Nice Betrep!

[@capnredbeard6553]

Great game guys!

[@Peryuri]

Wait, how did the Cities choose a battle tactic in the second round? They did a double turn.

[@DrPopCorns]

You only lose the ability to choose a battle tactic on a double turn if you win the roll off and take it. Cities lost the roll off and were forced to take the double.

[@Peryuri]

@@DrPopCorns That's a rule I didn't read properly then! Thanks for the clarification !

[@michaell825]

FOR SIGMAR!!!

[@reypsd]

AAAA GIVE IT TO ME I CANT WAIT 😂😂😂

[@bigbigbear58]

Can you choose to withhold attacks by model?

[@mattyno964]

Nope

[@mattyno964]

Nope, not in combat at least.

[@johnnyreid7931]

'Mon the trees

[@RuffStuff420]

Is the narrator the "WarGamerGirl" Miranda? If so, WTB war machine batreps!!!!!!!

[@maxtracker2904]

Isn’t it a random text-to-speech?

[@Ayra_arts]

I was exited by dwarfs and feel cheated xD i've had some great matches with a dark elf focused cities list the cold one knights are pretty darn good.

[@maxtracker2904]

Great game. No notes 👍

[@liquiddude9855]

How is Tahlia only 190 points ?

[@mattyno964]

She's 310 pts

[@wtfserpico]

Yeah that's either a typo or they missed big time when building their list. She's 310. For 190 she'd be the world's fastest auto-include.

[@joshaikens21]

Jake owes me money

[@mattyno964]

That first combat with cavaliers is exactly my experience. Cavs die, do no damage, more cavs die.

[@philipbowles5397]

Cavalry in AoS 4 works like it did in WFB - it only really deals damage when it charges. This time the Cavaliers got charged, and by models they couldn't Power Through.

[@mattyno964]

​​@@philipbowles5397 thanks for the tip, much appreciated. From a struggling cities player

[@philipbowles5397]

@@mattyno964 There was an early AoS 4 battle report here where charging Cavaliers were fairly effective - the trick is to keep them from being bogged down. Power Through is used surprisingly infrequently on the channel, but it pairs very well with cavalry because they usually have higher health than their targets and can use it as essentially a free retreat move out of sequence to avoid being stuck in combat. That does usually mean you want to be charging infantry, and even dealing double damage you still have essentially basic human combat stats and mediocre rend on Cavaliers - although they can be a primary hammer you don't want them to go toe to toe with monstrous infantry like Kurnoth Hunters or other 'hard' targets like monsters. That's where the shooting comes in.

[@Strade8]

@@philipbowles5397 I was wondering why they made them like you HAVE to retreat, didn't think about power through.. don't know why. Thanks for the graet idea.

[@leeprochazka5420]

How can you still support gw after all they've done? Why play a game if the dynamics change with societal pressure from a minority of ppl who don't even play?!