Watching this game again reminded me how much I love the implementation of Yndrasta in AoS. While the new stuff with the Stormcast feels neater than I was perhaps expecting, not only does Yndrasta remain a force, but it is one of the best incorporations of character feel in the lore to actual gameplay mechanics.
@philipbowles5397Күн бұрын
GW really dropped the ball with Yndrasta as a character. The Stormcast still lack a recognisable 'face character' as Marines have with Guilliman (and specific Chapters with particular characters, usually Chapter Masters). Yndrasta is highly distinctive as well as being the face art of AoS 3, an excellent opportunity to cement a 'face of the faction'. Great, where do players drawn in by her go to get the model and learn more about the character? Well, um. She's a push-fit model from a few expensive bulk-packaged sets. As for lore, she was missing in action for the entire edition after being introduced as Sigmar's beast-hunting Mortarch-equivalent and didn't even get a short story, let alone a novel, until very late in AoS 3. Sigmar's premier beast hunter, unleashed to chase down Kragnos, never interacted with him and left dealing with him to Kroak, Alarielle and the dragons. And so far as we know, unless there's any new lore for her in the new book, she's still knocking around in Ghur having nothing to do with ongoing story events. To add insult to injury, for much of AoS 3 the banner character representing AoS on the GW webstore wasn't a Stormcast at all, but Teclis.
@toniviskari417Күн бұрын
@@philipbowles5397 To me it's a bit more complicated. Like I agree that more could have been done with Yndrasta, but rather it is a symptom of a larger problem with how they are approacing lore in AoS. Essentially the core problem is that while the AoS books have generally been excellent, GW kind of wants the truly epic stuff to happen in tournaments to the degree that they don't even afterwards publish books about all the insane stuff that happened during these large conflicts. As a result, it is hurting them from really establishing any truly epic characters that define the setting as while there are epic moments in AoS, there really aren't epic stories.
@philipbowles5397Күн бұрын
@@toniviskari417 In both 40k and AoS they've developed an odd pattern of introducing the edition's story event at the start of an edition and then ignoring until they pick it up in the end of edition campaign books. But the settings certainly aren't short of faction- and setting-defining characters: that gave us the centrepiece models from Alarielle onwards, and prompted the return of Primarchs in 40k. They provide a good marketing tool as they're a shorthand way of showing off the aesthetic and general tone of a faction: you look at Teclis and see a wizard lord, at Alarielle and see a fairy queen etc. It's just a persistent oddity that Stormcast specifically don't have one (Krondys doesn't count as he isn't a Stormcast, just their most prominent battlefield ally). Alarielle, Morathi, Nagash, Kroak, Archaeon, Gordrakk, Tahlia Vedra and Teclis define their factions and significantly impact story events. Katakros, Neferata (and Mannfred, though he's more a foil to Neferata than a main character in his own right in AoS) and Ushoran are Primarch-like faction leaders, the sort of role Ushoran could have filled. Skaven now have Vizzik Scour. GW seems to have tried that with the Stormcast a few times, but nothing has ever stuck: Vandus was absent for an entire edition; Gardus is just a foot hero and not especially well-recognised; Naeve is another foot hero. Yndrasta and Ionus have really been the only Stormcast with centrepiece potential, and Ionus doesn't really have the narrative role needed to characterise a warrior faction as he's a support priest both in lore and in game.
@vanrussell40724 күн бұрын
Always fun watching you guys take new stuff for a few test laps. 😊
@Peter.B.S4 күн бұрын
Lovely battle report. Please don’t let it be too long before we see Ridge’s Skryer list :-)
@Vaul_09914 күн бұрын
for the love of god, please get a dice tray 😂
@SeasonofWar4 күн бұрын
But then you wouldn't comment about it to help with the algorithm! ♥️ (Just joking around ofc)
@Vaul_09913 күн бұрын
@@SeasonofWar best AoS bat reps (and most competitive) but I'd love a separate window with a camera on the dice so we can be more engaged it in too
@spawulski2 күн бұрын
Keep rolling em on the table. Way easier to examine your opponents roles that way.
@simsurfvideo22 сағат бұрын
FREE THE DICE
@tbarf4 күн бұрын
I wish longstrikes weren’t the strongest SCE unit. Hopefully in the new AoR the hammers really get to shine!!
@scarocci73333 күн бұрын
Covering fire being usable by reinforced units is incredibly dumb
@mattislame333 күн бұрын
@@scarocci7333it should cost 2CP if reinforced unit uses it
@DS_painting3 күн бұрын
Great battle report! Really like the new Iridan model, he has some cool tricks to add to SCE
@linguinibros.productions4 күн бұрын
Skaven seems really reliant on rattling guns rn to have a good list
@GeneralPuni4 күн бұрын
Legit one of our best warscrolls atm.
@scottmills41644 күн бұрын
Ya, kind of unfortunate. It's frustrating to have so many pieces in the book, but only a few that are really good.
@biowiener78254 күн бұрын
@@scottmills4164 in addition to our already horrible list building restrictions. im really not having fun with skaven atm. i dont need meele skaven to be super meta but at least usable. pure shooting is just boring for me
@miguelaguila57084 күн бұрын
@@biowiener7825skaven has problems but list building is not one of them. You can literally slot in any unit with a 120 point ultra efficient wizard. List building is very easy for skaven
@apokalyph73254 күн бұрын
vizzik cannot cast prayers on himself since sadly all prayers only work on infantry.
@salsathe4th4 күн бұрын
35:00 translocate is a 4+ but you were minus 1 with chanting in your opponent's turn.
@StarkPister4 күн бұрын
Good eye
@tarkin1980apa2 күн бұрын
Why is there a cookie jar on the battlefield? Mmmm....cookies.....
@arthurnicholson3378Күн бұрын
Pardon if the info is available somewhere already, but how many points were Iridan and the Storm Coven? Thanks!
@awijntje143 күн бұрын
Cant wait to see the mext skaven list Ridge has in mind (please also do a pestilence list soon!?).
@kasperkicinski53514 сағат бұрын
Great Bat-Rep, thanks guys!
@Flkt424 күн бұрын
Great report, guys! Why did Knight Azyros didn’t use ruination ability to try ignore Covering Fire? I think after erradata it should work like AoD
@francescocaselunghe57234 күн бұрын
Because covering fire ability target your unit do a shooting attack vs the closest enemy
@Peter.B.S4 күн бұрын
I believe this was shot before the battlescroll came out. They wouldn’t have been able to ignore covering fire before that.
@John.mm932 күн бұрын
Where is this errata. I thought covering fire is treated like shooting which is a core ability
@hunghoangletuan769Күн бұрын
skaven have always been known for their ranged weapons and steel guns. Trying to have stormvemin + character as the main source of damage is interesting but not effective in the current meta. However it is fun and keeps the rats from being monotonous, I also often play the skaven no gun side which is a loss but fun
@crg18504 күн бұрын
Wow this is the exact skaven list I was making. I hope it looks good
@DNolan19194 күн бұрын
Some Skaven points are just way off for the warscrolls... There's some good stuff in the book, but all the big monsters etc just don't add enough value
@scottmills41644 күн бұрын
It's very true. The value of being able to bring back infantry really makes it hard to want any big boys. They are going to have to drop points on a lot of things to see them hit the table.
@zeldiste59804 күн бұрын
I played a few games with Vizzik and a pretty similar list that showed here ( 6 Rat ogres and a Warpseer instead of one of the vermins block, the grey seer and Krittok ) and BOY DOES HE FEEL EXPENSIVE I have hope that he's a good unit, with a really good warscroll and that he can punch thought low armor targets ( I got him to deal 17 wounds into a bloodletters pack and it felt amazing ), but LORDS he's 100ish points too expensive and that's infortunate. Really hoping for some points reduction
@Kayoras3 күн бұрын
I mean thanquol, warpseer and deceiver all are great warscrolls
@scottmills41643 күн бұрын
@@Kayoras yes but they are so expensive. Those are definitely the top three, but can you justify not taking 6 more rattling guns and have points to spare? Maybe...
@nathancarignan80743 күн бұрын
@@scottmills4164 I think you can justify one of them, maaaaaaybe 2 if one of them is Thanquol. But it's so hard to not just play as much infantry as you can
@massqueraider2 күн бұрын
Rattlings are 5+, 4+ on covering fire not 3+ wound unfortunately
@darco332 күн бұрын
Any chance ya'll can tell us the points on the new units 😊
@jaffarito2557Күн бұрын
hey @Season of War not sure how to contact you so I'm writing this down here. I purchased your channel membership on the 11th of October, went in to watch some Member Only content and I don't have access to it anymore. The membership doesn't show up on my account on YT either. I went to check you channel page, clicked Join and now I see that the price is 5.99 EUR and I paid 4.99 when I purchased it? Is that why it was cancelled? Can i have it reinstated please? I don't want to pay again the 5.99. It really feels bad that I only was able to use the Member Only content 1 night and then you change the price and cancel my membership. Very disappointing.
@SeasonofWarКүн бұрын
Creators have absolutely no control over memberships or billing or anything like that on KZbin. My only advice would be to double check what account you signed up with, and if that's not it contact KZbin/Google support.
@azreal13 күн бұрын
Love to see that those new units brought some deepth back into the tomes, maybe it's just my personal thing, but the game feels a little one-dimensional atm
@voice98934 күн бұрын
10:11 the knight Had to fight the gnawwhole First If He however killed it sce wouldnt have Scored a battletactic. You cant Attack the Air. Just a quick reminder. Jordan explained it later but can you Pick nothing as the target for the fight ability?? 35:23 translocate is answered on a 4+ offturn you need Points or Roll a 5 since you get -1 to pray and you rolled a 4 i think with No Points in the bank. Love your battlereports thanks for all the Work 🙂
@SeasonofWar4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! You can use a fight ability if you are in combat OR charged, so yes 100% legal and correct! I'll have to double check the translocate thing when I'm at my desk. Cheers!
@Bravens40k3 күн бұрын
Sorry this is such an odd question but, was the Stormcast player a veteran Warmachine & Hordes player/content creator. His face looks so familiar to me.
@SeasonofWarКүн бұрын
Twas not I, sir!
@OleIngvarSteneКүн бұрын
Sure is rough being Skaven these days. :(
@KevinPotter-w5c4 күн бұрын
Poor old skaven got a bit of a kicking 🦵 but khorne thanks you for the skulls 👹👹👹👹👹
@WindsOfMagic4 күн бұрын
Another awesome bat rep!
@fredfenryll39833 күн бұрын
So much luck Jordan 😂
@JakeHill-j5w4 күн бұрын
Cruel making us wait so long lol
@tikelmypickel47294 күн бұрын
nice skaven paint job but yooo these stormcast eternals hahaha is that a dragon head swap ? where does the head in question come from, that's actually giving me an idea ! i was looking at yndrasta like wow is that one of the new models ?! then i realised it was yndrasta and i was even more confused haha but great job and great game !
@damianone44043 күн бұрын
Nice skaven paint job? You drunk lol?😂
@gwell21184 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@TinnierLemon4 күн бұрын
Charging in Vizzik for that battle tactic seemed like a waste, it left him super exposed and not like he is very durable. I didn’t really check if there was another better one but I bet there was one. Maybe bubble wrap him with clanrats next time and slow progress down a flank. Also I’ve heard that point for point running clanrats is better than stormvermin although it made sense if you are running krittok. But even him I’m not convinced by
@toniviskari4174 күн бұрын
While I thought of that same thing during the game, the teleportation and Yndrasta makes hanging back with Vizzik a gamble in itself.
@zeldiste59804 күн бұрын
Unfortunatly yeah for very similar points cost 40 clanrats are better that 20 vermins when getting the filth crust prayer, especialy if you boost them with skavenbrew. But... I dunno it feels meh in my opinion and I'm all in for stormvermins.
@TheDeathbrlnger4 күн бұрын
İsnt stormcroven a legend unit? Did gw bring them back?
@StarkPister4 күн бұрын
In the new battletome they are a regular, non-unique unit with all the same stats and warscroll as the legends Domitan's Stormcoven
@andred.28234 күн бұрын
Not legend anymore in the new BT
@TheDeathbrlnger3 күн бұрын
@@andred.2823 sir. Did gw allow you to tell new units points? As far as ı calculate iridan + azyros equal around 460 pts.
@Orkimedes-sc8ef8 күн бұрын
Still so long until the battlerep is out :( Btw I would LOVE to see the honest wargamer Rob on your channel once. Would that be something possible?
@Definitely.not_0liКүн бұрын
They live in different continents 😂 but ig if he comes to Canada to cover a tourney it could work.
@215264 күн бұрын
Great game! I was interested to see how the Ratling guns did, they seem like one of the best units in the new book. Iradan looks cool, the free retreat seems great for snagging objectives (BTW they are nonbinary so they/them not he). Also glad storm vermin are good again, gives me an excuse to paint up another block of 20.
@andred.28233 күн бұрын
In the novel "Skaventide" Terminos also uses They/Them. They're nameless and their mask seems to shift to mirror the visage of the stormcast they're about to axe. In the book they never take off their mask and are separate from the rest of their host. The gender is unknown, so we can't say anything about being non-binary. It seems like a thing going for these ruination heroes.
@gertgrobler71312 күн бұрын
Please be part of the positive movement of promoting Age of Sigmar rather than following the negative individuals who try and pull it down. The porta potty comment was unnecessary....
@SeasonofWarКүн бұрын
We've got to be among the most positive voices of content creators in support of AoS - I hope a little childish joke isn't doing any harm!
@KingRicko15 сағат бұрын
lighten up, it's a joke
@nicolaszhang21743 күн бұрын
Small note: Iridan is not a man, they've been referred to using they/them :)
@Mithlinthar3 күн бұрын
Because it's a priest + his named mount.
@nicolaszhang21743 күн бұрын
@@Mithlinthar not at all. If you read any articles that talk about iridan it always refers to the priest as a they, in many cases without mentioning the mount
@martinmountford19813 күн бұрын
Yeah it's very carefully done to not mention a male/female gender, whether that information has become lost, they never had one or something else who knows
@at39693 күн бұрын
She is wearing a female sce plate armor.
@martinmountford19813 күн бұрын
@@at3969 that only means the person wearing it chose to wear it and can fit within the confines of it. Also pronouns are not tied to the physical makeup of a body.