Seawind 1600 Catamaran Review 2021 | Our Search For The Perfect Catamaran | Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose

[@AJ-zn8fp]

Having owned 2 Seawind catamarans, my opinion is they are miles ahead of the Lagoons, FP’s and Leopards in design, performance and build quality. Also having bought 2 Seawind’s that were used and close to 20 years old when we purchased, the factory support for the owner of a previously owned Seawind was unbelievable! Seawind is a company that cares about the future and not just the here and now.

[@dharwood2727]

@Crazyirish _ If they don't, I'm pretty sure you can get it aftermarket if you wish to.

[@the_ayesha_khan]

Crazyirish _ they do do a flexiteak equivalent..

[@Giggidygiggidy12]

How does it compare to the Balance Cat?

[@dutchglobetrotter4513]

Why am I even watching this, I'm a mono hull type of person. With about 4 hours of sailing experience on a cat, plus about 20 pot lucks, 15 sun downers and a birthday party. I must say you have a lot of space on a cat, we buddy boated with a Leopard 48. The build quality was pretty good, they never had a serious issue in the 2 months we sailed together, that could also be because the owner was about as immaculate as Nick. On some passages we (Oyster 56) could sail, not even close to close hauled, when they had to tack or motor. I like monohull design because it is more forgiving, in a strong gust a mono wil just heel more, a cat has the problem the rig has to take the gust. Loved the video like always, keep up the great work.

[@antonditt1661]

The Leopart is a minikeeled, floating wedding cake. It's not meant to tack.

[@MrHAPPYHAWAIIAN]

Don’t forget the 1mg Xanax I take prior to sailing. I live in Kauai, HI. Every time we go out it’s like starting in middle of Pacific.🦄💀🤣❤️🙏👍🌴

[@edwalton4397]

My seafaring vocabulary is growing by leaps and bounds! Dagger Boards, Sail Drive, Shaft Drive, Skegged (sp?). Loving the reviews and attention to detail that you put into them. Thank you for sharing.

[@HarborsUnknown]

Your catamaran review videos, especially this one on the 1600 really helped us ultimately decide on the Seawind 1600 and we are so happy with our choice! Thank you!!

[@disk0553]

I think Nick has hit the nail on the head for me. - If you're used to a monohull, having the dagger boards lets you sail a catamaran more like you're used to.

[@justbanter8727]

There is no one on a KZbin Sailing Channel I would rather see/follow on a new adventure, on a Catamaran; You guys truly deserve it, you enrich my day with each upload.

[@sailingrubyrose]

Awww, cheers mate

[@larrydugan1441]

I really like the shoal draft. I have had more grief from other boats dragging their anchors during Thunderstorms and cold fronts than probably any other issue. What a treat to be to hide out in shallow water. More options in crowded anchorages and less distance and wet bottoms getting to shore.

[@joeblow1942]

Nice job. Thank you. It’s amazing how far Seawimd has come since their humble beginnings with their first little barebones cat.

[@dreamingosailing5496]

While I agree that a review of the 1260 would be a better comparison in my humble opinion, the magnificence of what Nick and Terysa have done is to allow all of us to rank the boats too. That way our own potentially biased opinions (because of the X factor of being dazzled) can be compared to the collective wisdom. I’ve found that I’ve generally been within 1 or 2 points of the collective except for one boat. It forced me to go back and re-evaluate if I’d been dazzled and had rose coloured glasses on. Turns out you were all wrong :) Thanks for doing this N and T, smashing job. Can’t wait to see more.

[@billweiner426]

Great video. Great boat. One additional thing I'd suggest noting on all these cats is bridge deck clearance. If you want to sail to windward in open water you will also be sailing into the waves. It takes more than boards to make a reasonable windward passage. Compromising other attributes and cost for a capability that is only useable in a protected bay is likely not one you desire. As for this boat I agree that this is a real beauty and you noted some upsides. Been my experience that ever design choice on a boat has plusses and minuses. For example boards that don’t protrude the weather deck is great BUT boards that you cannot easily service / clean will be unmovable due to sea life fairly quickly. The one thing that really looked like a problem in the design was the hard bimini over the helms. Half covered and not sure how you get protection from the weather. Head banging hazard when standing or moving. A bike helmet will be required. Biminis are modifiable but I’d hate to pay for that after just paying so much for a new boat. Great series, thanks for doing these

[@hitabo]

Bill Weiner spot on. Almost exactly my thoughts. Can you imagine the headache? Lol.

[@soundbeings1]

Me too - not sure how it scores a 10 when Teresya (5'2") has the roof just above her head. Obviously means anyone over 5'4" has to sit at the helm and could not stand and surely by standing you increase your vision?? Odd. And you need to build an enclosure. Scoring all the stranger as the guys are looking at 'best overrall cruiser'. Seduced by the dark side of speed so they are.

[@edrosenberger6947]

This is another outstanding catamaran review....thank you! I can understand why you two are excited with this one....very nice overall design.

[@ronhecklinger1845]

Back down in your price range the 1260 seawind we loved . We found the double helm and down kitchen on seawind 1260 just right. This was only cat under 45 ft.we liked those two features. Also ventilation was great in lounge area. Quality seemed better than other production boats we have seen. Felt like a sailor as you say got a big day in design.

[@markjennings2315]

Those helm stations are right out there in the breeze! No way can deserve a 10/10 for that alone.. Absolutely agree with you about the sail drives just waiting to be crushed and punctured up into the hulls.

[@conradsenior5843]

My first thought was some sort of tilt down electric drive an a genset to support it would be a good option coupled with a lot of solar.

[@JamesNewsomeCaiLeighAnna]

Love your catamaran critiques. One of these boats is never in my future, but it's still interesting and very informative to see and hear about these boats from a cruising couple. "Couple" is very important because it gives the viewer the perspective of both the male and female sailor. Good job!

[@andypennybrown6848]

These reviews are the best, very professional, very clear,, I must say that from a southerly owner, you have tempted me!

[@ndunnan68]

I really enjoyed your catamaran reviews. My girlfriend and I are looking at the cat vs mono differences as I type. We are leaning towards a cat. We have 1 year before we buy and 2 years before we leave for our world tour. As you said on the Lagoon 42 video that it isn't a performance boat and that most cruisers spend most of their time on the hook. Having sailed on both cats and monos I like the sailing of the mono and the hominess of a cat. I feel that I personally can do with the less than stellar performance of a production cat like Lagoon or a FP or Manta due to the fact that we will mostly be doing shorter passages and only throw in a few long ones. Seawind does have a wonderful boat in the 1260 or even the 1160, which I got to tour recently. It was very nice for a 38 ft boat and is a bit better sailing than most production boats. And a 38 or 40 ft cat has the room of a mono that is 10-12 ft longer so that has to be a consideration as well. I would like to see reviews on used boats if possible because most of us lovely viewers are looking at are older as we cant afford a newer one...….. :). That being said please keep up the wonderful reviews and the awesome videos and keep keeping it real.

[@bubbagail7450]

After watching you two as long as I have this boat matches you the best so far. Safety, Performance, and usability. Seems to have ample storage for you two, and an occasional guest. You like to get somewhere safely and asap that way you have more time to explore. Good review on this one.

[@FtLMale1]

You’ve nailed it with this review! Watching it I felt it was the perfect yacht for me, however with the exact same reservations as you... the exposed sail drive being paramount, and the corners needing Baby Bumpers when offshore. Love the center board and rudder retraction, love the helm stations and the openness of the main salon. My new dream boat, I hope they refine it, add a shaft drive option and sale a million of them, so I can pick up a slightly used one in two years without the wait. Best done review or best yacht to review? A resounding BOTH !!!

[@colin8037]

Best review i have seen on the Seawind 1600 by far

[@williamlawton4451]

Truly love how you categorize your reviews and all the different features and safety everything great job keep up the good work so enjoying your videos

[@charonstyxferryman]

I think that me and Terysa has one thing in common: If the ventilation is bad, when it's hot, I feel like a penguin in the tropics.

[@actiaint]

I know the 1260 is a bit small for you but would be great to see you review it - in respect of your gained knowledge! Enjoying this review series, thanks!

[@Penwiggle]

I’ve always thought Seawinds were seriously well thought out boats. They represent a great mix of performance and comfort. When boat shopping, I always think about how my time on board is going to be spent as a live aboard. I did a survey awhile back, and calculated that about 85-90% of the time on a boat is spent at anchor or in a marina (for live aboards). There are a few long passages, maybe 1 or 2 a year, and the rest of the time is spent on short hops of 1-3 days. So when I do buy a cat, comfort is going to be important as living on the boat as a house is what I’m going to be doing a lot of. Balanced, of course, with great performance when it’s needed.

[@kevinborders1546]

You need to workout as deal on this boat with Seawind. They could use the exposure you will bring.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

I *think* that is what Riley & Elayne on the _"Sailing La Vagabond"_ KZbin channel did.

[@tigersharkzh]

My bones tell me they're already on it.

[@user9b2]

Yep. Seawind should sponsor you guys. It would be a win win.

[@sailingrubyrose]

Maybe someone should tell them 🤣🤣

[@Silentway247]

I don't think they build enough 1600s to have a reasonable impact on "exposure." Having just contacted them regarding a 1600, their current hull won't be completed until 2021 and the following hull in 2023...

[@jbrown791]

What an amazing and informative video. Thanks guys for what you do. If life permits, maybe I’ll see in the tropics some time. Splendid! I give her a a solid 45 out of 50, what a vessel.

[@bgauthi1]

Like you said you need to sail them now. The knock I have heard that the performance cats are not as comfortable than the production cats. I have heard they rock and roll even at anchor a bit because they are lighter. Terysa just mentioned it actually. You two are on top of it as always. :) You sold me on this boat. Now what bank do I need to rob to be able to afford it? Love the reviews. Thanks!

[@tihomirrasperic]

its look like sports car, but i wll choose lagoon comfort over speed.

[@dharwood2727]

Since the helm stations are at the bridge deck level, the boom is much lower than Cats of a similar size. This places the center of the sail area much lower as well. This does at least two things. 1) The possibility of overpowering the rig is reduced. 2) This also reduces the pitch and yaw (rock & roll) in higher wind.

[@Ladybirdsin16mm]

@@dharwood2727 Also i think it has mechanical steering (i hope), far better than hydraulic.

[@dharwood2727]

@@Ladybirdsin16mm Yes it does. Nick actually filmed it when he was in the engine compartment.

[@adamsisolak4262]

@@SailingLaVagabonde rock less at anchor ha ha ha

[@JimjamsZ]

I think you over scored this boat because you fell in love. I think the compromise you mentioned in terms of space was not accurately represented in the scores. You might not mind fewer berths but you should compare like for like with others of a similar size. Otherwise loving this series, I’ve just realised I’ve been watching for ages but only just subscribed. Keep up the good work.

[@Ladybirdsin16mm]

They are looking for one themselves, so dont take the scores too personally

[@Steyrshrek1]

The cockpit and saloon are as a big as any cat in this size, the heads are nice. The berths are smaller but all you do is sleep in them. I’d rather the bigger living space. Like the “u” shaped galley, would be comfortable to work in in heavy seas. The performance numbers are good for a cruising cat. Great review.

[@deancollins9381]

Agree, at the 8min mark they say 4 hatches which is important as "planning on living in the tropics" but then fails to mention how the sloped windows of the Seawind 1600 will turn it into a greenhouse in the tropics. Its actually a really good video to watch because it makes you realise how "the boat for you" is probably the one you ignore the flaws on the most :)

[@Darth_DMack]

We really enjoy your channel. We are in the market for a live aboard sailing catamaran as well. Definitely like your ratings, clear, concise, well done. Sailors, speaking from experience to others. Thank you so much for your hard work!

[@dennisaston3551]

I'm thinking that Nick shouldn't play poker. You can watch a review on mute and see how he likes or dislikes each thing. Fun to watch a review, thanks for wearing your heart on your sleeve for us, intentional or not :) !

[@RonDupard]

Great review! Very informative and well done. I'd love to see you review the new Antares 44GS. 😁

[@52Tracker]

I love your yacht reviews! So well done👍

[@brockallentaylor]

Looking forward to the comparison to the Outremer. For someone that wants to have the extra speed, and willing to make the sacrifice of interior volume these look like impressive options! If you don't plan on lugging around a lot of crew it seems like the way to go. Thanks for the review!

[@robinhilliard]

I regularly walk past a Seawind dealer marina in Sydney and could never quite come at the looks of the smaller models, but this is a very handsome ship, reminds me of some Robin Chamberlin designs.

[@Trevorburk1]

I love the Seawind 1260. Not as fast but seems more roomy and it’s very well thought out.

[@Rodrifuuu]

Galley down. Not great.

[@judd_s5643]

I keep hearing that cruisers typical spend 10% cruising 90% at anchor therefore living space vs boat performance is a pretty easy decision. I would imagine a build of this quality and interior design with wider hulls would be a home run.

[@Eddie_-_]

Judd _S sounds like a Lamborghini station wagon to me. ;)

[@MichaelWilliams-qo9yy]

Your insights and reviews are well appreciated. Especially recognizing your experience has been with a mono hull. We’re a US midwestern bare boat charter family and enjoying the Bahama’s or Caribbean is more about 6 or 8 people enjoying the beauty of these areas than winning races. As a couple sailing around the world, you’re main concern is certainly not how small the forward cabins are. So you’re ratings reflect that. For someone that wants to entertain more than four people for any length of time, I don’t think this would be their choice. But, who doesn’t like to drive a race car; I’d love to sail one for a day.

[@WanderingKnapps]

I like that boat too. We are a family of 5 from Texas, we are currently selling every thing to live on a boat. We've been following Nikki and Jason for years. Unfortunately our budget is less than a catamaran. We will start in a sailboat. We have been watching yall to see what you have and like about a monohaul. Cheers!!!!!

[@whitewaterplayboating]

I also have a crush on that boat. Get one and give Riley a race challenge!!

[@sailingrubyrose]

Meh, don’t want to embarrass him mate

[@whitewaterplayboating]

Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose Lol 😂 It would be great video though!!

[@jtaylor0727]

Well done... wish I could afford it!!! Beautiful... it is great how you really focus on key issues that impact sailors!

[@patricknagel9065]

Another well done informative video. Looks like a nice and fast boat. What I don't like are the still too exposed helms and inclined saloon windows, another oven in warm climates.....

[@sailingluana3037]

I feel like that helm foot bar seems dangerous also the nav station outlets are under a hatch. Both are easily fixed but stood out to me. Beautiful boat. Thanks for sharing!

[@kellyfarley7968]

This is definitely the most fun I have had watching your channel - which I like very much! Between the shopping reviews and your heading into France, I'm holding my breath for each new video :) I hope you do get a chance to trial your finalists in strong and light winds - that would be sensational! Great work on these videos - thanks!

[@sailingrubyrose]

Thanks Kelly. It’s a busy time for us.

[@randythorne4401]

Ok, you convinced me, I will rent the port forward cabin. Love your take and comparisons, looking forward to the Outremer. I'm living your dream.

[@SacredKaw]

I miss you guys! I'm rewatching all you comparo vids The Seawind 1600 is my favorite. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@pmnfernando]

it was obvious Nick already loved the boat, but as he was seated at the nav station.his face was.clearly saying: "why havent.we bought this. boat.already?!" again great review based on a.great reasoning.of wants, needs.and.experience

[@tihomirrasperic]

hahahaha if they step on Exquisite 5 they will be stunned with ship and price

[@KenBlackRifleAmerica]

Boy, what can I say.....this one is truly an ocean cruiser, awesome for liveaboards and the galley is perfect! I left my numbers on the app......great choice!

[@sailingrubyrose]

Thanks mate. Appreciate the scoring

[@KenBlackRifleAmerica]

Happy to help! Cheers to you both and on with the quest!! 🍷🍺🍺⛵🍺

[@terryburwell8241]

Great review! I hope you we will see more Seawind models on your channel soon, like the 1160 Lite and 1260. Thank you!

[@deemacvee1]

I love the 1160 lite but don't think Nic would be too enamored with the outboards.

[@terryburwell8241]

@@deemacvee1 explain to me (a lifetime landlubber) why someone wouldn't want outboards. Is it because they use gasoline? And why is that a concern? Are they not as efficient as a diesel engine? What's the deal?

[@deemacvee1]

Hi Terry, I think it's a matter of different strokes for different folks. I have outboards on my Seawind. There are great little workhorses. I've had outboards all my life and I am a mechanical (& electrical) dolt. But, I can provide my outboards with the required TLC and, with a good annual service by a pro, they are good to go. The day they are done (I hear 6,000hrs is common) it is relatively easy and cheap to replace them. I won't be crossing oceans but they do me fine coastal hopping. Fuel economy has not been an issue. Nick & Terysa do cross oceans so need long legs. Diesel. Nick is more of a traditionalist (IMHO) and I reckon a perfectionist. He is very capable with managing his current diesel engine and other boat systems. (A dab hand on the sewing machine too and even plays the accordian. Marry him quick Terysa! He can serenade you then run you up a new frock! ) I think the idea of outboards would start him on a rant. Some of the points might be; OK on a sub 40' cat (maybe) but not any bigger, fuel economy/range, reliability, outlast multiple outboards, diesels provide hot water for showering, more amps for charging, etc. Just my mechanically challenged opinion. Cheers.

[@goonies7354]

So glad you all are doing these videos!! glad to sponsor you all on patreon! Hope to see you all next time in Charleston, SC if you ever come back.

[@michaeldouglas6872]

Holy Crap ..your Seawind (winner of the Cat Review voting), review episode got over 1/4 mil views so far ..you guys really do get some high viewer counts ..well deserved of course

[@mnoslund1]

Don't forget your at anchorage 80-90% of the time, those wide boats are comfortable

[@chrisb4157]

Ditto. These performance cats also need much more attention when passage making. Lovely boat but probably not as well suited for long range cruising.

[@RTLimYou]

Your search (Ruby Rose) of the "perfect catamaran" makes it easy for me to decide when I am ready to get mine..kudos!

[@sailingrubyrose]

Thanks mate

[@scubajackw1348]

These reviews are really well done - you two have amazing attention to detail. One of these builders should offer you a deal like La Vegabonde has or provide demo boats for all you experienced blue water cruisers to try on multiple journeys and provide feed back:) Thanks for sharing!

[@ldirk58601]

Gads I can't wait to go sailing on your new boat! I mean, from my office chair of course but still. Loved this boat the best so far from a landlubber's pov.

[@bertmacdonald337]

BZ you two, another great vid! I`d agree with your scoring apart from the rake angle of the forward windows. With no "eyebrow" they would let in huge amounts of heat. I did notice the glass looked tinted, what do you think?

[@ChristianGrams]

Great review once again. I would love to see the both of you test sail this cat! I think it would fit you very well. Looking forward to it and more reviews!

[@hansk.4482]

Another model you might want to look at is the Slyder 49. I was impressed by the build/interior quality. With daggerboards, also falls into the performance category. Good luck with your search.

[@kaptnk51]

I agree with you, Seawind make a great 1600 and 1260. If we had the money, this would be my choice. I would not fully recess the solar panels as they need air flow under them to keep them cool. Also, 375 W Canadian Solar panels (60 cell as STANDARD). I would also like to see 6 - 375 cell panels at the stern over the dingy. Seawind is really behind the times with 125/225 W solar. You can get enough solar to run your A/C. You also need 4 to 6 400 Ahr LiFePo4 batteries to store the power plus big charging alternators on each motor just in case. I see 400 Ahr batteries with their own BMS for $1000 each. The cost of some upgrades is beyond belief. Remember that low cost labor in Vietnam?????? Folding props, heat pump chilled water ac (hot and cold), 2+freezers and refrigerators and ice maker. One utility room with cabinets and a small fold down bench for a cot as a small one person bed with air mattress. Full electronics radar, AIS, shortwave/VHF Iridium/ sat phone/internet. 120 V ac outlets/120/220 V shore power. Oh, I was just dreaming a sweet dream.

[@ddddd1666]

ok,i got it,THIS IS IT,look no more cause is really the best choice mabye a neel 47 or 45

[@stuartmcmichael5250]

The Seawind looks fantastic and compared to some of the other Cats you’ve reviewed his look great value.A+++

[@dahveed284]

That head-banging helm station is enough for me to say NO! Plus, while a performance sailing cat is nice, I don't want to make the trade-off for the tight living spaces. I'm looking at a boat to be a floating and sailing home. So it has to be comfortable and spacious for me 365. But that is just me, everyone has different needs and requirements. Its the beauty of the free-market system: choices. But it did have some nice features. The engine rooms looked wonderful. Good review! Thanks.

[@SVImpavidus]

Some very study engineering solutions, well thought out. Performance too which would ring any sailors bell. Nice review. Ant & cid xx

[@shauntoomey3299]

Not disputing your personal choice of course. I Toured a Seawind 1600 today @ SCIBS. If going to a catamaran is about gaining space then I am not sure I would want performance hulls. How many days will you be in performance mode versus static relax/anchor/mooring/marina mode. Loved the cockpit and saloon space. Design is compromise and has to be designed for personal intended use. My choice would be for more room to move and turn as I felt crowded. In saying all that it is a beautiful boat regardless. BTW a frosted/tint film applied to hatch might save Jason's privacy. I hope you guys get a Cat soon.

[@bill4nier]

Love your reviews! First time I've seen a Seawind with a throw walkthrough. I like it! I like the fact you have two helms and the saloon has "semi-rounded" edges. The new FP, Lagoon, and Leopard don't (as you probably have seen). Thanks for sharing! 👍👍👍👍👍😍⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵

[@Farringa]

10 + 9 + 8 + 9 + 5 = 41, not 42. I'm sure that has been pointed out before, but I didn't see any recent comments to that effect. Can't wait to see the Seawind 1370! Thanks for all that you do.

[@gl5638]

The thing with catamarans is how and where exactly the two hulls are joined in the front. That is extremely important and it will ultimately define how the catamaran will handle in the open sea. You should try and include some comments on that in your reviews, which are very good.

[@cflowrider]

I was so pleasantly surprised by this boat! What the?! This new 1600 seems to have corrected a lot of the sticky bits of previous models. Seawind has really upped its game. I look forward to your sea test?? I had been so put off Seawind & consequently Cats in general [from a nasty experience] that I skipped this review until just now. I came back to this after watching your Outremer review (gorgeous boat). Thank you for this review.

[@sailingrubyrose]

Pleasure my friend. Beautiful boat indeed.

[@WSallai]

In your review of catamarans I would like to see some additional information provided regarding design and performance: 1) Freeboard above waterline? 2) Distance between painted waterline and actual waterline in unladen boat? 3) Bridge deck height? 4) Distance between hulls? 5) Amount of overhang on bow and stern? 6) How far back from the bows does the netting go, if there is any? 7) Boom height above main deck? These are all factors in how well the boat will perform in following seas plowing into waves and wave slap. Else, I really do like the measured approach you take at looking at the different models.

[@ostranderfamily6371]

Beautiful boat great job on the review love it ...but for a nicer size master and some cool features the balance 526 has my vote above this one. cheers guys

[@petertorrey236]

I see your gaze....you really want this boat. Lovely, informative channel btw....and a equally compelling couple! Hope to see you out there in about a year.

[@scottb3774]

These are fantastic videos. My wife and I are looking at the Privilege 5, X5, and Seawind 1600. Your videos are incredibly helpful. We have a week on a Privilege in June. Hope to experience the others over the next year or so as well.

[@sailingrubyrose]

We saw the Privilege 5.0 as well, a review is coming

[@dougmarder]

Thank you for continuing to make these difficult analyses, and thank you for the polars (these are not always made available from all builders). In addition to the bridge deck clearance statistic someone else mentioned earlier, I like to examine the usable load (maximum displacement - minimum displacement, a number few manufacturers like to give out). I like the methodology used by Australian Multihull a few years ago comparing the SA/D v. D/L ratios of Gunboat, HH, Outremer, Catana, Seawind, Balance, Privilege, Exquisite, Fountaine Pajot, Leopard, Bali, Lagoon (performance to cruiser). A few updates to this can be found on CruisersForum. I would love to see some of the other South African builders added to this list like St. Francis, Majestic, and Knysna. In addition to your visits to the engine compartments in each boat, it would be great if you showed us behind the electrical panels, some of the plumbing runs, and some of the spaces behind the cabinetry to see how well the systems are installed and finished off.

[@ericlloyd8258]

Love your reviews! The best I have seen. Very nice to have a set way to compare. Great job and can't wait to see more.

[@sailingrubyrose]

Cheers mate, next one out this week on Patreon and next week on KZbin.

[@ericlloyd8258]

I look forward to it. My wife and I plan to purchase a cruising catamaran when I retire. Also need to get you guys back together with the Wynns! Those were really funny episodes.

[@tedboender]

Nick, it’s way over your budget. However, it is a beautiful boat. I’d love to see you guys in it. Cheers, Ted

[@dtonvista]

Very good presentation! I have been on the smaller Seawind 1250 and was really no impressed, seeing review of the 1600 may change my mind, this was a nice layout and actually had room for washer, very nice. A performance Cat is very susceptible to, too much baggage, need to be careful not to pack to much stuff on them. Thanks for the review.

[@SirCharles12357]

Lol, You can see Nick just sitting there trying to figure out how many teeth he'll have to pull to buy this beauty!

[@jacobpiersma5451]

Thanks for this review. I was at the boat show and bumped into you on the Outremer 59. I agree whole heartedly with you regarding the Seawind. It is a well thought out design and that is the reason I am so baffled by the saildrive as that is a real minus as is the single berth in the front. The other disadvantage of this catamaran is the sloping front windows, which can heat up the catamaran cabin quite considerable in the tropics. I hope you will do a review of the Ita Catamaran as well as that was the other one that I found impressive and didn’t have the sloping windows.

[@Frindleeguy]

I personally prefer the 1260. For me, it actually feels "bigger" (actually, just more open). Plenty of space for my mind. And that hoisting door system... That's a game changer! Island Spirit open deck feeling with Seawind quality and speed... You guys are great, hope you find one you love!!!

[@tihomirrasperic]

you can't compare 42-45 vs 50+ they are another world

[@Frindleeguy]

@@tihomirrasperic Direct comparison maybe not. Feature comparison? Try and stop me, sir. I might have to introduce to my friends, Jack Johnson and Tom O'Leary!

[@tihomirrasperic]

@@Frindleeguy well its not fair battle against lagoon 42 vs 1260, they not same class but lagoon 52F or 52S are match for 1260 because you have lagoon comfort and 52 is design for speed what its not usual for lagoon

[@Frindleeguy]

@@tihomirrasperic The 1260 is SeaWind's 41'. This one in the video is the 1600. I think it's fair to compare a 41 vs a 42, even if one is more speed oriented than the other. The "give and take" is literally what comparisons were made for when seeking out a "which do I prefer". Those two 41 and 42 ft boats are often cross-shopped.

[@tihomirrasperic]

@@Frindleeguy sorry my fault, I mixt models

[@ashleywynn4923]

I’ve notice that there are spots in the hull where you can see light through it like around the steps in the stern. That’s shotty construction. Next time you are in one, go below and get to where the steps are and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Just an observation.

[@Silentway247]

So after watching all of the reviews, I think is the best one pound for pound. I would also probably rate the 1260 the best for it's price point as well. Seawind for me.

[@johnbama4740]

thrilled to see your review of the seawind. personally i have not seen (nor sailed) a seawind 1600 in person, but your review sorta confirms what i was thinking. i have previously sailed a seawind 1160 and i found it to be a well built boat and a lively sailor. i have good reason to think the 1600 will be the same in a larger package. hope you get a chance to sail it and report back to us. great job!! can't wait to watch your outremer 51 review.

[@edg1567]

Hi guys, Really like your honest reviews of the catamarans. It really helps me in my search for my catamaran. Currently, I'm leaning towards the Seawind 1260. I think one important aspect of catamaran sailing compared to monohull, is bridge-deck slamming while sailing. Thus, bridge-deck clearance should be a consideration. Unfortunately, many of these production catamaran builders skip this data on their website. Except for Seawind Catamarans. Can you please include the Bridge-deck clearance height in your reviews. And also update your previous videos in the comment section so that we can have this important data. You might also want to checkout Seawind 1260 Catamaran. It's a much cheaper boat as compared to the 1600. But without dagger boards, it will not point as high as the 1600. But for the price point, it's a good 41ft boat to consider. Thanks again for the great videos. Keep them coming.

[@sailingrubyrose]

Hey mate, we are keen to look at a 1260. Re bridge deck height and clearance, we thought hard about including this in one of the categories and decided against, and here is why..... We felt that to those who were new to boats it may give a false sense of how much a boat will slam. However as you know, slamming is more than bridge deck clearance. You need to factor in boat length, trim, mast position as minor issues. Then there are the big ones: bridge deck clearance, how much weight the boat is loaded with as well as the design of the under bridge. Newer designed cats with Nacelles and shaped under bridge areas will slam leads than older cats with flat under bridges. Similarly loaded boats slam more, lighter boats are more sensitive to loading so easy to overload, shorter boats hobbyhorse more, etc etc. So for these reasons we left the category out. There is also only so much you can get from a boat show tour and written specification. Stage 2 of our search will be to test sail our short list in different conditions to assess hull slap, bridge slap and things like creaking of cabinetry. Hope this helps explain our thought process.

[@jrbdtx]

Wow that's a good looking boat. You should definitely get it out on the water and see how it fits.

[@TheBlackRuffles]

great video guys, I really appreciate your comments....

[@irwfcm]

At 17:00 minutes, the scores you have up only add up to 41, not 42. The difference is the Value for Money score. At 17:00 you have it as 5, but earlier in the video you have it at 6. It is also 6 in your blog post, so 42 is probably the correct total. The 5 at 17:00 is probably just a brain fart, but thought I should tell you just in case you do actually need to change your final score. My opinion, I'm just not a fan of any of these performance cats. I like the production ones better for me. But like you said, that's why they make different kinds of boats for different people!

[@Captain-Paul]

Very excited emotive language throughout shows how difficult it is to be absolutely objective and how important your consistent scoring methodology is - did you leave the cat of your own volition or did you have to be escorted off when you got into your PJs ? :-)

[@jeffb8829]

Guys, let me be clear (1) I LOVE your channel, videos and personalities (2) I was very excited with the more fact based evaluation system you decided to use in these reviews and (3) there is ZERO hate here, but I’m gonna spank on you some for some (IMO) glaring contradictions in this review. (1) in the last review you hammered Lagoon pretty bad. You used phrases like “built to a price point” and “made primarily for the charter business” both of which are thinly veiled versions of “Its Cheaply Built”. Specific point you were Very Critical of the cockpit table. More than once in the review you mentioned it as “Cheap Plastic” and lamented how you wanted wood........ but on this Seawind it had an innovative and beautiful cockpit table..... That Was ALSO Plastic..... duh, duh, duhhhhhh (2) The Lagoon was again Cheap and built for charter because of its Minimalist and plastic interior....and you punished them severely (points wise) for this and the table.....but the Seawind.... had a Beautiful minimalist interior that looked about equally plastic from what I saw....duh,duh,duhhhh (3) it might have been a different channel, but I thought before you started you said that living space and comfort were more important to you and you were not looking for a high performance cat? Did I get that confused? Might have, but you raved about the performance of the Seawind. (4) Lastly, I would ask that you fairly compare your scoring of the Lagoon to the Seawind. I forget which category, but one of the Lagoon categories you had many nice things to say as positives.....then gave it (I believe) a score of FOUR???? Yet little Seawind that had one of you biggest no, no’s of sharp edges/corners still got 10/10 in that category???? I’m not trying to promote Lagoon or take up for them. They would not be my first choice, but it just didn’t look, to me, like you used the same measuring tape to rate these two boats. I have found the two of you to be very even and balanced people so I was really looking forward to your reviews, but for them to be useful them need to be scored fairly. Particularly in the cases of points 1&2 above where the exact same features were graded down on Lagoon and graded up on the Seawind.... Again, please remember how I started, I’m a big fan and supporter, and will remain so either way, but something wonky happened here.

[@jeffkovacs6521]

While I share your appreciation for their video's and the reviews, I also noted some of the same inconsistency's. However, in the end, I think all that we have here is the introduction of the 'human factor.' First, in the interest of better / more fair comparisons, I think it might be worthwhile for them to edit some of these earlier video's in a couple months time and add in a "weighted" score along side their initial review to better reflect their overall impressions once they have a larger sample size to weigh and compare. Assigning ratings points to anything is always difficult... especially early on, as it is all too easy to either over- or under-score those you view at the beginning. Second, and perhaps most importantly, sometimes a certain boat (or car, or home or anything else for that matter) just appeals to you more - despite logic or practicality or anything else. I think more than anything, that's what happened here. The just liked the Seawind... and so all the small compromises bothered them less than those same issues might in another boat. Either way, I am really enjoying this series and look forward to the next review!

[@Eddie_-_]

Jeff B so your point is that a Lagoon 40 should be equally scored as a Seawind 1600? It’s not the same league my friend. Which is also shown in their scoring.

[@jeffb8829]

Eddie no Eddie, not in the least. I was saying a plastic cockpit table can’t be worth 4 points on one boat and 10 points on a different boat. Apples need to be apples. It was about inconsistency not the actual total score. If feature “A” is a positive point, it should be positive for all boats, if feature “B” is a negative point, it should be a negative for all boats. I believe the other person who replied before you nailed it. They fell in love with this boat and saw it thru rose colored glasses, hence the distorted scoring.

[@Eddie_-_]

Jeff B I could buy a FP and be happy. Maybe also a lagoon. But a plastic table and a plastic table is not always the same thing. Just look at the hinges at this one. The one from lagoon is the same as you pay 59 usd at ACE

[@jeffb8829]

Jeff Kovacs two Jeff’s, brother from another mother😜 Agreed in total. This was more about romance, but it was supposed to be a critical evaluation. I don’t want to spank them overly hard, I really dig them both. I would consider it more of a cautionary tale that demonstrates how hard a proper, non biased and critical evaluation of something like this truly is. It’s hard to not allow personal feelings creep in. I know they are both very reasonable people and really just thought to shine a flashlight/torch in the dark so they might see how affected they had been. Who knows, maybe Seawind had a world class salesman that gave them the full treatment and turned their heads. Who knows. Like I said I will keep watching either way.

[@beyzano7091]

I understand the confusion a little about reviewing a Lagoon 42 one week and then a Seawind 1600 the next. That's like saying, I am in the market for a car, so let's test drive a Toyota Camry one day, and then a Mercedes S class the next, and guess what, the Mercedes is much nicer! Nevertheless, if we put that aside, and just look at these reviews as stand-alone reviews, I think the reviews are well made, comprehensive, and who doesn't like looking at a fancy catamaran like that. For me, when discussing the Lagoon 42 I was rapt with attention because the price point is one that I can afford and so it is a realistic goal, and when discussing the Seawind 1600, I just sit back and enjoy some boat porn! As far as the Seawind is concerned, I do think it is a beautiful boat, but wonder if it has the same sailing characteristics as an Outremer on which I have sailed. That is one fast boat, but I had to admit a bit exhausting over time, as the boat almost skidded and bounced over every small wave. Not something the wife and I would be comfortable on for long passages. Also everyone wants to race you every single time, and if a Lagoon beats you, you'll never hear the end of it. The only thing I loved was the ability to point. Having chartered Lagoons, Nautitechs, FPs, etc, I do have to say that the angles upwind are mighty frustrating. I would love for the main production cats to have a daggerboard option! But it seems all or nothing. Performance cat with boards, or comfy family caravan with minikeels...

[@johnporter292]

Awsum!!

[@terrybaker8349]

Agree with the comment around skidding. We sailed on a friends Seawind 1160 overan extended voyage. Very different motion that we never got used to. The slam under the hull was annoying to say the least. The other problem was the lack of visibility from the helm station. The 1600 would alleviate a lot of these issues. For us, we will remain monohull sailors unless we went to a very upmarket and big cat.

[@frankspank5211]

@@terrybaker8349 if you did go big cat, which would you prefer?

[@corujariousa]

It seems this might be the winner... I like the way you are approaching this evaluation and sharing w/ us. Thanks.

[@robertdietz4656]

Great review. I am looking forward to see what you guys go with and the overall comparison video.

[@alessandropaglieri3174]

really nice boat and great review. Glad you fully get the choice between performance and space/luxury. To this point one important factor you may need to look at is how much you can load the boat (that enclosed drawers while really nice touch screamed extra weight to me ;-). This figure is rarely mentioned in specs. Cats, and especially performant ones, are VERY sensitive to weight. Not so much for monos. they are much less sensitive, up to a point, to extra weight. If I remember well, space and capability to bring with you all the "toys" to fully enjoy the tropics was a primary motivation for you to look at catas. It would be nice if you could do a little research and find the overload specs for any of them. Again all cats will be more sensitive than monos. If a performant one looses performance, a more tame one may become a turtle...but their owners may not care that much.

[@conradsenior5843]

One key figure is how many pounds of weight lowers the waterline 1 inch. You can do the calculations yourself but it takes time. Monohulls can carry a lot more weight. I agree on bringing toys. I would bring a seaplane on the back of a cat if I could, or something like a Melges 24. LOL.

[@larrylegg80]

Hey! If You haven't looked at the Outremer Catamaran you should. They are fast. I think you will be surprised. I'm sure the price is more realistic. Good sailing mates. Shalom

[@TutaraTours]

Hi Guys, I'll be interested in what you think of the FP Saona 47, I'm a full time skipper on one in NZ, we've done about 2000 k miles since March last year, I do all the maintenance and improvements, remember ALL, yachts, even new one's need additional improvements to suite one's requirements. Well done on your appraisals on all these cats, you both bring a fresh look at cruising, and bring your travelling into our homes, in my case, the yacht.

[@jamielancaster01]

Sailing from the sugar scoop/boot/trunk is a deal killer for me.

[@coryhawkins6306]

Very nice reviews. Insightful and informative. You should Hire out to manufacturers.

[@robertbarnes1989]

Remember that it is Not All Blue Sky and Sun! I love your channel. I also really like these reviews. I do see you guys getting a bit swept away despite your extensive cruising experience. Remember those rainy days. While there are many hatches on this cat, NONE of them can be safely left open in the Caribbean at night (or anywhere tropical) because of those nightly (during the day as well) sudden downpours. I have yet to see a cat that has anything resembling a dorade or rain protected window. A Leopard we chartered had a couple in the salon but the staterooms were steaming hot saunas if we wanted to avoid getting rained on. Odd angles or desire to be able to go forward to check on anchors at night will make it almost impossible to put rain covers on a cat unlike on a monohull. I wish designers would think of that. The partially protected helms will get old fast in rain or hot sun. Also, as in one cat we chartered a while back, check that those half protecting helm covers are not flowing rain water right into your aft room hatch.

[@sailingrubyrose]

Good points my friend. We will check all those if we ever start sea trials

[@robertbarnes1989]

@@sailingrubyrose another point. Like you guys, I think it is great to be able to look up and see the sails. But all cats that have visibility like that eventually have owners that feel the need to have window covers made to cut down on solar gain. It is a trade off but we all stay more at anchor than at sea so I would choose comfort as long as the boat can be safely sailed. We recently chartered a 40ft leopard that had the worst running rigging arrangement. ALL the lines were lead to a tight row of clutches to the starboard of the helm with one "spaghetti bowl" for the tail ends. It was impossible to have the main up and avoid tangling your feet at the helm. Dangerous setup.

[@buccaneerbeth3452]

Oooooh gorgeous boat ....so well designed ....Thank you for taking us with you on this journey ..So informative .

[@charlesmerritt122]

Great video. I’m looking forward to the next.

[@JettytheGypsy]

Seawinds are our favorites!

[@stephen-hubbard]

Great vids guys, love your work and many thanks for what you do.

[@jenniferlawrence1372]

I love this boat. I’m so excited about seeing you guys transition to this kind of boat, whether it’s this one or another. I know you’ll make a good choice for “our” next boat. ;)

[@sailingrubyrose]

Awesome Jennifer, can’t wait to have you on board :)