"Second Chance" by Shinedown ("Meatloaf" comment on Today Show 9-2-09)

Shinedown's performance of "Second Chance" on the Today Show (Sept 2 2009). The famous "Meatloaf" comment by Kathy Lee Gifford.

[@laurawalsh2079]

I have always loved Shinedown and especially Brent Smith - thick, thin, in between - We love you Brent any way you are as long as you are healthy, happy and doing what you love.

[@jasonpeck1312]

That's the way it should be

[@sbcrossfit3877]

@@jasonpeck1312 ...even if he lives his life like a gipsy.... :P :P :P

[@michellelafaille1678]

Yes we are so proud of brent he lost weight and got sober

[@MichelleMiranda-ho4op]

I have always been proud of him and always will be proud of MR Brent 🖤♥️

[@Aaron-yy5qh]

If only Kathy could see him now 😛

[@michellelafaille1678]

I really hope she apologized to brent for that

[@nicolespiteri6273]

I am a HUGE Shinedown fan. Brent remained remarkably composed and professional after hearing that incredibly insensitive remark about looking like Meatloaf. I just wanted to give him a huge hug. That comment was so inappropriate . She owes him a huge apology. I hope he got one.

[@nicolespiteri6273]

@I'm effin done First I congratulate you for turning your life around. I do challenge your thoughts on this topic. KL clearly insulted him just by his reaction. I don't think you understand insensitive because if you did you would not make reference to people as 'Fat People' It's cruel, demeaning, rude and insensitive. Look the word up!

[@alisongunther6486]

I couldn't have said it better. And I hope the same

[@aspjake123]

He does have a small resemblance to meatloaf. Why should she apologize. You libs are too sensitive

[@nicolespiteri6273]

@@aspjake123 `Us liberals' however you implied that are smart and intuitive enough to realize when someone is clearly embarrassed by a comment. There is something to be said for being respectful.

[@georgewoodward6525]

I thought he looked more like Shaun Morgan (Seether)

[@97WolfQueen]

Meatloaf...THE HELL WOMAN! There are so many reasons why that is NOT OKAY!

[@ewwhoisshe]

You could tell he was smiling through the pain when she said that... smh

[@rebekahpalmer2375]

I know! You could tell he didn't like it, poor guy. What a stupid, shallow bitch.

[@midonlynx]

He has a LOT of dignity, good guy

[@ankevandooren6637]

Respect to Brent for staying serious. That woman clearly has no idea who they are because remarks like that shows lack of respect and knowledge of a band.

[@melissaw4320]

I can only imagine how he must've felt upon hearing that comment, and then going on to perform. The first few lyrics "My eyes are opened wide... by the way, I made it through the day" were appropriate for that moment. KLG should've been made aware that he was in the midst of a transformation to improve his life. As it was, she spoke to him like he was a child ("HI SHINEDOWN"). She knew or should've known better. Brent has the last laugh now!

[@NiniRockX]

Melissa W Brent Smith is the best !!! And his laugh is very loud !

[@kustomhooligans]

Melissa W+ An interview with Brent said that Kathy's comment was a contributing factor to him starting to lose the weight. So fuck ppl, love the haters, use the fuel to live life to your full potential. I know from personal experience that living great and being happy is the best revenge

[@michellelafaille1678]

I wouldve walked off stage how could she? The asshole

[@victoriahodgdon1529]

@@michellelafaille1678 He's said a few times that she made him feel like the performance didn't matter anymore. He pushed through it for the fans that were listening.

[@blacklight310]

Someone mentioned “meatlaof” is an artist? So she didn’t insult him? I’m confused...

[@NiniRockX]

He is the best Voice on Earth 🌏

[@MichelleMiranda-ho4op]

Yes he is he is very very talented love him ♥️🖤♥️🖤♥️🖤♥️🖤

[@alexiscouchman1851]

Her comment was horrible and completely uncalled for. I feel so bad for him. Love Shinedown! Great band!!

[@harveypopien3474]

Saw these guys live at the beginning of 2018.. great experience

[@charlesammons8591]

Harvey Popien I saw them the last week of June in North Carolina. Absolutely loved it. Everyone was staring at me tho. Ig not a lot of 16 yo ppl listen to them

[@guyebel8469]

I saw Shinedown last year at the Prudential Ctr in Newark, NJ. Brent's voice was AMAZING! His voice FILLED the entire arena! His voice gave me Goose Bumps! Amazing!

[@TaterTotGaming]

I've heard this song thousands of times and I've never heard the harmony during the chorus like this.

[@Vaalsnyz]

He looks SO DIFFERENT now!

[@smackdowner]

Shinedown was good back then but today they are fucking amazing.Glad to see Brent fix himself no doubt his voice is unreal one of the best ever

[@thezombros2607]

I agree I think they were at they’re best in the the sound of madness but since then they’re still amazing

[@robertbrownlie6485]

Superb vocals and saaweeet acoustic guitar.

[@kevinmilner9417]

What a beautiful voice

[@Anonymous-ng4wc]

You could see poor Brent die inside when she called him Meat Loaf. I feel so sorry for the dude.

[@joeybashaw3909]

Should be a compliment Meat Loaf is world renown success story in music

[@theladyoftheinvisibleempire]

@@joeybashaw3909 how would it be a compliment? She called him meatloaf based on his size. Nothing to do with being an artist ffs

[@gimmedatstick]

Shinedown is awesome. Props to each of them.

[@lunareaperofsouls9857]

Holy shit Kathy! That was rude as hell! He wasn't even that big!

[@audreythomas589]

The strongest singer I have heard in a long time! Brent you are amazing! Saw you live at SPAC. Totally awesome

[@Paul8820]

Meat loaf? What's ironic is that Meat loaf lost a lot of weight got off the drugs and today he sounds like shit. Brent did both of those things and he still kicks ass. Yes given that Meat is much older but still.

[@danielbouwman489]

Damn it’s awesome see where Bret is now he looks so good now m, defiantly give me even more inspiration as I continue my weight loss journey I’m down 35 pounds since feb2019 and it’s now June 2019

[@Amaryllis88164]

Good for you! Keep up the good work & be proud of yourself!

[@AsWeirdAsCanBe]

Well done :) Brent has given me inspiration for my weight loss journey too, I'm down 56 pounds and still going.

[@cesarsagil]

What a nasty comment! Brent was so kind and reacted nice, he is a great guy. And she was so bad on her comment.

[@obnxsdonky9394]

why is it nasty? meatloaf is another person. shes not saying hes a piece of meat or something like you fucking think

[@alanzata100]

obnxs donky in other words, he called Brent fat. Fuck her

[@blacklight310]

@@obnxsdonky9394 there’s another person named meatloaf ? Is that what you mean ? Who the f is this meatloaf I’ve never heard of...

[@joaocesardesagil4175]

@@blacklight310 MeatLoaf was a musician, but she called Brent like him because MeatLoaf used to be a fat guy.

[@beccalecca1971]

Wow Kathy really? He carried far more grace than she could hope to. He was more accepting of her and her comment than she was of his appearance enough to have couth.

[@randynelson9141]

I wish she knew just how big of an insult it was to call him fat in that tone of voice and expression. Yall know what i mean. Ive been through it, dope took everything and everyone i ever cared about. Ill never be able to get that beautiful life that i thought i hated so much back because of my own choices. But when youre getting clean usually youre skinny, so weight is just one of those things that you can physically look at and see that your mentally exhausting effort, to fight off a craving like none other, is paying off. In that sense, i was 135 at 6' tall now 1 1/2 months later im 172 and counting. So keep on pushin man! This fight will never be over, it just gets easier to fight back.

[@oehslmcarter]

Yeah, that was super fucked up

[@chelseashay2174]

Damn that's deep but I feel it so much

[@garysurmachynski2975]

She didn’t call him fat . She said he looks like the singer from Meatloaf.

[@KnoxxV1]

Very humble these guys.

[@paulettephillips2649]

LOVE THIS GROUP ALWAYS

[@agentfox7390]

He gets hotter as he gets older ❤

[@avrimcandrews4033]

I love this song

[@josuesalada214]

Spectacular! I love this Brent's version. It sounds very nice. Great. See you boys!

[@rhondawalter5201]

First time hearing/seeing.... this live wow Brent,zach,Eric wow... I 😍🤗🤩

[@newspapers12]

He was off drugs that is why he gained weight. Also Kathy Lee talking about his weight is disgraceful.

[@bowtierhw4142]

Gail Beaver yeah that was harsh

[@EasyBreezy222]

Meatloaf,really bitch, cause meatloaf is so much bigger and older then Brent,he has lost weight and looks much healthier now..But that was rude! keep up the good work Brent!! LOVE your music🤘

[@BC08]

Probably a little professional jealousy there, as Kathy likes to do some shitty little covers trying to act like she is Celine or something.

[@bradleypotts7751]

kath lee dont have much but loving herself so much so she talks about people

[@markmeandering446]

Maybe she was referring to his powerful his voice and who she thought it was when she heard it on the radio?

[@LilMntER]

Beautiful...

[@anitacreaclip8242]

Shinedown is the best, and they've only gotten better as time has gone on :)

[@LUCYFLORES427]

Love you Brent smith I hope one day I can meet you guys soon

[@LBEE2035]

Size doesn't matter it is your 💟❤️ how much love can you put out into the world 🌎🌍 positive vibes ✨💖✨

[@soulphoenix13]

As expected, this was another great performance from Shinedown. It was nice to see such a great band recognized on national TV. I still think they should be bigger, but we're in a digital age where most singers layer their vocals through auto-tune/synths, and many younger listeners have become conditioned to not appreciate instrumentation and honest vocal deliveries. . . That comment was horrible; it was disrespectful and out-of-place. . . I wonder if Kathy Lee would say something like that to another woman? (She may have because she's not the sharpest tool in the shed). What he looks like should not have come out of her ignorant mouth. Hoda Kotb on the other hand genuinely liked the performance (even lip singing) and was much more respectful to the group. Props to her, but of course the credit goes to these guys.

[@victoriahodgdon1529]

Especially considering this was at the end of the 2 year long Madness tour, and Brent had blown out his voice and had cysts on his vocal cords (hence the slightly quieter, mellower version of the song you're hearing here), and Brent was pushing through all of that to close out the tour and the PR and all that.

[@stephanierizzo8108]

This song is awesome. I luv this album. Such great performers. Still in the present. 2019 here we come😎

[@rosemariewalsh6182]

I LOVE the key change in the chorus!

[@peskypenguinz]

You can tell Brent is trying to make the song calmer lol

[@Wargsy]

Its because his voice wasnt 100% here. Prob tired from a lot of touring

[@shanebell3122]

@@Wargsy he definitely watered the song down cause it was a studio and you can just tell he doesn’t want to belt it out with all he can. Still amazing

[@Wargsy]

@@shanebell3122 Well as I said his voice clearly wasnt at his best here. Which is probably why he didnt belt it out. Because he struggled with the higher tones, which is understandable as he toured a lot most likely.

[@victoriahodgdon1529]

@@Wargsy He definitely did. This was towards the end of the Sound of Madness tour, which if you remember, he nearly blew his voice out during, because it was a two year tour. He left the Madness tour with cists on his vocal cords, a fucked up voice, was on the edge of serious damage. That's why he makes sure he rests his voice on their days off now.

[@Wargsy]

@@victoriahodgdon1529 I dont remember that but hearing his voice it definitely sounded like he had strained his voice a lot. But some ppl dont get that sadly.

[@medic9five]

The man can can belt em out, has a great stage persona. They opened the " event" with sound of madness, he had on what i would best decribe as a mad hatter ring master outfit. and they brought down the house. the meat loaf ref. his hair and the way he holds the mic and sings is remeniscant of the big beefy one. He rocks ...meatloaf rocks. Its just music and entertainment.

[@iccon20]

The meatloaf comment was cutting.

[@bricknmortar9233]

I’m going 6/7/24 I can’t wait Soaring Eagle Casino Mt. Pleasant

[@nathangardner7838]

me too!!

[@c.j.9072]

no class on her part what so ever Brent is a stand up guy

[@webdznr1]

gawd.. if this is bad.... ha Kathy Lee needs to retire already.. Meatloaf??? REALLY? If anything he looks like a young Ozzie.

[@c.j.9072]

he does I always thought that

[@JustJoshLTRB]

Honestly he always looked like meatloaf to me during this era.

[@zoefaith120]

Wow, I remember watching these live. Dame when this time go.

[@jamiefry1142]

His voice is like heaven to my ears and damn he is sexy then and now!!!

[@victoriahodgdon1529]

Agreed. I think his sweet, down to Earth personality helps that.

[@tempest965]

Hoda getting down > Kathie Lee looking like she's sitting there watching paint dry

[@victoriahodgdon1529]

You could tell by the way she said the band name that Kathy didn't really know anything about the band. The other lady obviously was into the band - "it's such a great song!"

[@michellelafaille1678]

@@victoriahodgdon1529 she doesnt know what good is, shes such a bitch

[@victoriahodgdon1529]

@@michellelafaille1678 the fact that she ran right over him every time he spoke showed how little she gave a fuck.

[@tinakobel6293]

I love you guys

[@rockinears]

BOOM LAY, BOOM LAY, BOOM! Whoa hold the phone.. dafaq?! .....I mean Meatloaf is cool af....but he has long since EVER been able to hold a candle to Brent Smith, at any stage in either one of their careers, to have EVER been able to mistake them for one other 🤨¿¡¿¿ Brent Smith is a beast! There is not a doubt in my mind that Shinedown will be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame one day 🤘☝️✊✌

[@t00thluvvr]

ONE PUSH IS ALL YOU NEED!!

[@blacklight310]

I thought she meant to call him meatloaf cause he was fat. Everyone in the comments is crying about it and now I’m confused

[@addisonshinedown]

what are you talking about??? that's the best i've heard acoustic of that song, they matched eachother perfectly, wonderful harmony, and the ladies sang along, lol

[@stevearundel8762]

great great great voice!

[@MichelleMiranda-ho4op]

I love shinedown I’m a huge fan of shinedown I loved the performance but when she called him meatloaf that was so disrespectful I wanted to hug him after she said that I felt so bad for him I could tell he was upset when she called him that I hope he got a apology

[@davidward588]

Amazing band

[@Cold417]

Awesome song... :)

[@WesleyLuginbyhl]

The weight is explained by the lack of drugs, which I believe he gave up cause he has a kid now. He definitely sounds sick during this performance. If anyone doubt his voice, just check out my videos of Shinedown from the Tulsa State Fair, which was about a month after this. We overheard a roadie saying he was sick that day as well, but you could not tell by his singing..

[@victoriahodgdon1529]

This was also towards the end of the Madness tour, which was a nearly constant 2 year tour, and if you remember, he came off the tour with a blown out voice, cysts on his vocal cords, just shy of serious damage. His voice was probably exhausted.

[@DestinyTurek-Sturgeon-wm3rq]

Love me too

[@Solitudely]

liked this version about as much as I like present version... but he still rocks. as far as KLG. Guess it's good to have a job

[@rockymaze3868]

Says life for me.......like they say only you keep tracks of your successes....on word...want to come

[@abbysmusicaccount1695]

Brent Smith looked so hurt by that "Meatloaf" comment, that was so rude even if it wasn't ill-intentioned

[@davidward588]

Always

[@newaerorules]

OHHHH... NO SHE DIDN'T !!!!!!!!

[@J.J.Stokes]

oh yes she did!

[@ShutUp1976]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@barbaramitchell4807]

I to had a problems with drugs as Brent did...I gained alot of weight...Better to be heavy and happy than skinny and drug sick...Besides I prefer a man with meat on his bones...

[@rafaduk123]

cara canta muito

[@murdock162002]

I'm glad he used that comment as motivation... I have shitty self esteem.. And I know that would've felt terrible.

[@michellelafaille1678]

He didnt use that comment as motivation, his son being born did

[@samuelbonham8846]

yo cobb was singin along. good chick man

[@Derek3ijjiSF]

Rip meatloaf

[@stefantheberge4722]

Lucky gals

[@lucifchristo]

that was just plain old insensetive but also had the silver lining of motivating him to make a huge change so its all in your attitude in how you interpret such things afterall.

[@michellelafaille1678]

I dont think kathy motivated him, Becoming a father did

[@skylarj870]

Its obvious Kathy leelikes twigs for menbrent is an example of what a real man is

[@susanfereday2455]

These days (2023) Brent doesn’t hesitate to hit the high notes, but I don’t blame him for taking it easy in this performance.

[@nicholaskazantzidis]

Wow

[@aaronmcelhany594]

The performance was great. My favorite band. But yea that meatloaf thing was a pretty screwed up coment to make even if it wasn't intentionally mean.

[@WynterNoelle17]

Brent has lost a lot of weight now that you see him 2015 compared to this video'

[@teanatheart]

now, in 2020, he's friggin buff. It's a beautiful transformation.

[@adiosk8er63]

Lol I almost pissed my self when I saw this on tv when she said meatloaf

[@pilsnrimgaard2507]

Brent clearly held back his voice when he heard that comment. The studio version he is clearly letting his voice loose. This version he sings an octave lower...probably because of what she said.

[@maryhelenbuchele7342]

No he would never give a less than great performance on live TV because of a comment. He was sick & his voice was messed up from a 2 year tour. This was towards the end of the tour. He did have cysts on his cords when the tour was over.

[@allglad]

Im not the only one. ..wonder if a youtube of meatloaf with him is out.

[@ryannupp3683]

Damn what a performance, as far as the meatloaf comment was concerned, Brent smiled and still played a great song, I don't think he was too bothered by it

[@Julie7956]

Ryan Nupp he was upset about it, it’s one of the many reasons he lost weight the weight and kept up the exercise regime. He often brings it up in interviews

[@victoriahodgdon1529]

He's said in an interview that the comment made him feel like the performance didn't really matter. It was more of a 'yeah that hurt' kind of smile. He was attempting to be professional and keep it in until after the performance. That comment was one of the things that pushed him to start his weight loss journey.

[@Julie7956]

@I'm effin done NO! Not good. People should show respect no matter what it’s about. Not everyone is strong enough to cope with comments like that. And end up taking their own lives. It’s wrong. I’m happy you lost the weight you wanted to, but people should have shown you compassion and helped you by not attacking the way you looked.

[@9452000]

Eric is badass. Voice piano guitar.

[@redhotchilipepperou]

ΛΟΒΕ ΛΟΒΕ ΛΟΒΕ ΛΟΒΕ ΛΟΒΕ ΛΟΒΕ ΛΟΒΕ ΛΟΒΕ ΛΟΒΕ

[@julienprevost5409]

it's like that dud who tought Sam L Jackson was Laurence Fishburne

[@tommyprovence]

I have met the girl of my dreams I don't have a second chance

[@chellecopley67]

I've never liked her for many reasons but saying shit like this is just nasty, mean girl shit that goes with being chronically middle school aged developmentally, bullying, and stunted in growth past that stage. Meatloaf in his prime was an incredible performer and a voice that was unparalleled, which Brent in his own rite is also. But Meatloaf was unfairly judged by many because of his weight, which Brent was too but Brent NEVER reached the problem with obesity that Meatloaf did. I guess what bothers me the most is that either one of these incredible souls were targeted with bullying and hateful BS like this.

[@chellecopley67]

and how damned unprofessional of a 60 year old woman to go to that level.

[@MrGMountain]

Why would they even have them on and not Bieber. More their speed. Does the yoga pants crowd listen to Shinedown?

[@jamesrehker6088]

What's the song playing as the show opened?

[@coreytonitis7507]

What a shame

[@UNBEK4NNTE]

I know this comment hit him very hard and he changed his whole life and lost lots of weight. This just shows that some stupid little comments that seem not important can have a hughe impact to a person. Even if that comment wasn't directly an insult, he felt very offendet. We all should really care for what we say. Because even if something is not forbidden or a general insult, it can hurt other people the same way! It's not about the words you say, it's about how the other one feels about these words. Calling someone fat for instance is not forbidden. But it can hit that someone even more than something forbidden, even if it's true. Also that tv woman should be more professional than making jokes about her quests.

[@addisonshinedown]

his voice is a little raw, but it's powerful.

[@NickBeast-gy2es]

I know this is from 2009, but Brent lost weight and got sober. Kathy should be termanited. How rude of her to say that!

[@ejbeckgt]

He looked more like Jack Black...

[@ejbeckgt]

Meat loaf Looks like Chris Farley!!!

[@tiffany.enering]

Little Ricky'sFlyingCircus dude that’s still not the point

[@quinnsmith2454]

so fucking rude. i’m so mad at her. currently obsessed with shinedown and brent smith, and i hope she realizes her huge mistake now that he’s slim, short haired, and incredibly muscular. he’s looking better than ever. kathie owes him an apology

[@mariothompson3201]

you guys are fools to be hating on her for that comparison...it wasn't a stab at his weight, she wasn't being a bitch...look at his face in this clip, and look at meatloaf's...they look like they could be father and son

[@katherineplott6326]

That was harsh.

[@erinjordan8668]

I’m still sickened by Kathy’s words and have been a fan of hers anyway. She took the wind out of Brent’s sails. Humiliated is all I can think of. I’ve been a Shinedown fan since Leave a Whisper. That’s totally disrespectful of her. I’m wondering if Hoda gave her a taste of her own medicine after that.

[@erinjordan8668]

Have NOT been a fan of Kathy. Let me just be clear!!!

[@theladyoftheinvisibleempire]

I miss his voice. Used to be edgy and raw.

[@brizator1597]

Seriously Kathy Lee?

[@theamazingt4r468]

Go drink a few hundred bottles of wine, Gifford. Are you fucking serious? I have never seen one picture or video of him that wasn't beautiful. His weight is a non issue. He has always been a killer singer. Is he healthier now...maybe.

[@JanaTheRudeGirl]

Ozzy Osborne maybe, but not Meatloaf.

[@michellelafaille1678]

No brent is so handsome always has been

[@michaelmobey2174]

I expected Brent Smith to be taller

[@harleyrobertson73]

Michael Mobey i expected him to be thinner

[@lorettalang9142]

Michael Mobey this is from 2009 and he is thin now

[@ryanvlogsandmore3412]

That's mean

[@beccalecca1971]

5'10" and bulletproof

[@hipachka]

Hey Zach Mayers is it you bro, really ?