Second Invasion of Geonosis

[@blastech4095]

An estimated six dozen Acclamator's, four dozen Venator star destroyers and more than a million Republic clone troopers arrived to retake Geonosis.

[@davitalmonkey7387]

Firmus Piett Which clone legions are these? I see the 501st and 212th but the clones with mundi, are those the Galactic Marines (Nova corps)?

[@AKUNJIG]

Papa Jack You could also count the Green Beret since Commander Cree was featured in the 2nd Episode with Master Luminara and Baress Offee.

[@darthvader8164]

Only a million? To take a planet? My god, if it wasn’t for air superiority, the Republic would have lost this battle.

[@Ariana321]

Good lord, that's coming somewhat close to Warhammer 40k Imperial Guard numbers right there.

[@ΚωνσταντίνοςΠλεύρης-τ3υ]

Well for a planetary invasion the guard use dozens of millions of troops.And if that doesnt go well,hm then there are two options.More troops or exterminatus if the planet is under massive demonic assault and if it is of no worth exterminatus.On the other hand lets say Cadias case there are a billion guarsdmen with hundreds of thousands of vehicles or millions accompanied by titans and space marines.In space there are hundreds of vessels always if not thousands.The republics forces would be a laughing stock in front of this and presumed either a suicide mission or a small vanguard.Litteraly even agri worlds have millions of planetary defence forces.Star wars cant compare to Warhammer40k on scale power or numbers.(Glad to see fellow Warhammer 40k fans here though,have a nice day sir

[@notaspy3751]

"good thing those bugs can't aim" *boom*

[@KingSomethingIdk]

R.I.P

[@salter1630]

He jinxed them

[@DanniFX]

Bug: OH THATS HOW YOU WANT IT!?!? *triggered*

[@richardched6085]

Cliche....Sometimes I hate it. This time I Loved it.

[@Aberrant17]

Well, what do you expect after a line like that!?

[@loganthekrogan2182]

I freaking love republic gunship's

[@commanderpondscc-4112]

Ik the sound just makes me....

[@davidc756]

@@commanderpondscc-4112 Ya but the sound of the TIE fighters... 🤤

[@klorgmakthesmasher6446]

@@commanderpondscc-4112 bbbvrrrrrrrrrnbbnb

[@klorgmakthesmasher6446]

@@commanderpondscc-4112 wait a second-

[@klorgmakthesmasher6446]

@@commanderpondscc-4112 COMMANDER PONDS?!? WHAT ARE _YOU_ DOING HERE?? SHOULDN'T YOU BE HELPING THESE DUDES OUT??

[@Midironica]

"Shouldn't we do an initial bombardment to clear their anti-air and send in our transports with fighter escorts?" "Nah, it'll be fine."

[@yanlibra8886]

''Yeah but mass gunship assault is cooler and tactical bombardment are for pussies''

[@carlosduran8865]

You're joking right. Read your question again

[@Midironica]

@@carlosduran8865 Not really, no

[@ovni2295]

@@carlosduran8865 r/wooosh

[@weirdart1638]

To be fair even if they bombard the shields the geonosians would just send hundreds of star fighters to counter the Republic

[@QuackersAhoy]

This is what hooked me to TCW show. The battle sequences were always beautifully animated and combined with the speaker melting sound design made this show unmissable to me. The Battle Of Umbara arc (the one with General Krell) was probably, in design and sound terms, the finest piece of Star Wars I've ever seen. Rebels, although it is improving massively compared to it's early days, just can't compare to this exquisite series.

[@dr.boring7022]

Currently, Rebels doesn't. But hopefully we can get some battle scenes like this. I liked the Battle of Scarif, even though it isn't in Rebels, but Rebels is leading up to it, so hopefully, we could get more battles like that.

[@QuackersAhoy]

oh yes, I'd love to see the Battle of Scarif from the Rebels point of view, perhaps leading up to or being the final few episodes of the final season.

[@Acolyte47]

Fenster the first two episodes in the krell arc were actually directed by the same guy that directed Apocalypse Now!! IMHO those episodes were when the clone wars started to feel like a real and gritty war!

[@PetersaberHD]

If you're looking for scale, "Rebels" will never amount to what Clone Wars did. The Clone Wars was one of the largest wars ever fought in the SW universe, Rebels is the very beginning of the Rebellion, with very limited resources. Hell, Battle of Attalon (and a few others) in "Rebels" is the bigger than all Original Trilogy battles except for Battle of Endor. It makes zero sense for Rebels to have a battles anywhere near in size of TCW battles. Rebels are a group of ragtag fighters with random ships, and not battlegroups of cruisers that hold 490 strike craft and thousands of clones each.

[@robojunkie7169]

Clone wars is much more detailed and gritty looking compared to rebels, you can actually see texture on objects.

[@Joseph-yh8gn]

1:28 I'm guessing that clone's nickname was "Jinx".

[@codym672]

Joe Matsuzawa lmao most likely

[@jimmothydick6440]

"Good thing those bugs can't ai--" "SHUT THE FUCK UP CARL!"

[@davecrupel2817]

Joe Matsuzawa it is now xD

[@a.morphous66]

He had to be posthumously nicknamed.

[@rippetoe38]

Lol.

[@trycoldman2358]

The D-day of Star Wars

[@Acolyte47]

trycoldman23 that's actually how George pitched the idea for the episode. This is one of the few episodes that George had a heavy hand in.

[@pergys6991]

trycoldman23 nah more like gallopi or dieppe

[@maddoxcindy5017]

But if we take a look at our and their history it'd be more like Scarif

[@TheTeodorsoldierabvb]

The most overly glorified landing in history.

[@Acolyte47]

Give the americans a break. They didn't get that many epic landings in their history!

[@theintunity]

Landing of point rain was by far one of the best episodes in the entire series. It felt like an actual Star Wars movie. So cinematic, so chaotic, I loved it.

[@alexmason3472]

16 ships?! Now that's one hell of a big Republic fleet! :-D

[@salter1630]

And it's only a fraction of it. They made mannnnyyyy

[@Gibbs6415]

Actually, there are five cruisers. The smaller ones are like huge troop and equipment transports.

[@piccolo917]

Jup, there were a lot of acclamator class assault ships. They are the ones that dispatch all of the troop carriers and the AT-TE's

[@commanderdoom7836]

+Alex Mason that was barely anything...some invasion fleets and planetary defence fleets had almost 20 star destroyers and twice as many acclamator Class assault ships

[@thitran1362]

and that is just one invasion fleet. there are other invasion fleet invading Geonosis

[@starflame34]

Can you imagine if this show was made for a more mature audience? How more intense and graphic these battles would be?

[@michelecastellotti9172]

Considering the average power of a blaster? Very gory

[@Bamm1894]

That'd be so nice

[@budlight2969]

SHOW US THE VIOLENCE 😻😻🤡

[@larniieplayz6285]

@@michelecastellotti9172 nah

[@michelecastellotti9172]

@@larniieplayz6285 yeh

[@BigBennKlingon]

This episode and these invasion scenes were what made me take notice of TCW. By season 3 I was a devout fan

[@SpockBorg5]

This short video way more entertaining than the force awakens. Further proof that jar jar Abrams is bereft of originality, and new ideas that will build on what has already been done and not rehash it

[@maddoxcindy5017]

@@SpockBorg5 not just the video, the whole episode is arguably the peak of the first 2,5 seasons. It is only filled with Bugs, dust, blaster bolts and death and really felt like a Jedi‘s or the Clones‘ POV

[@kwamedamuah1838]

same

[@micheljavert5923]

Fleet Captain: “General, if we’re going to bring the capital ships into atmosphere, we could at least use the naval guns to suppress the enemy.” Jedi: “Yeah, but this looks cooler.”

[@araw540]

Way too accurate...

[@Polarwhisper6]

I mean it def does look way cooler than how such an invasion would take place. It would be a lot more mundane, subtle and slow paced

[@freretuck5466]

I'm going to answer that 3 years later, but the proton cannons we can see (that shot down a few LAATs) would penetrate very quickly venators shields if in range. We can see this scenario in the Ryloth first ground invasion episode, with acclamators getting melted in a few shots. Granted, venators have better shields but still would be risky to assume. Especially they are enormous targets so the dozens of in range cannons would have no problem getting a hit

[@Thundercheeves]

rules for an invasion: step 1: establish air superiority (nope) step 2: soften defensive positions (nope) step 3: feint attack to lessen enemy troops in landing zone (why?) step 4: use infantry to secure area for deploying heavy equipment (lets put em in together)

[@Jokumlokum]

aaahh its a fantasy setting in the past with future weapons. We don't know the tactics that works in that universe. I'm not an expert at least.

[@Jokumlokum]

STar wars is NOT a sci-fi. Its a fantasy space opera.

[@christiandauz3742]

Probably because you have less brains than George Lucas. I would have won that battle in a few hours

[@dreadnought-ai]

Christian Dauz - that would have been a very boring episode.

[@Gachmara]

Dreadnought AI or you just make it a good episode with good tactics, there are many battles in different series well done that are enjoyable to watch. But the largest problem is that Jedi's are not military leaders in this age, they are peacekeepers and that results in clusterfucks like this:)

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

Too bad we can't have games like this instead of Battlefront.

[@guardianexe_30]

I would be the guy in the LAAT transporting all the players

[@ritschij]

Arma 3

[@jeff8253]

so uncivilised

[@DarthWindu]

Well know there is....

[@richardched6085]

@@fallrain7 true. I play it daily now :)

[@Heartland.Productions]

1:28 "Good thing I studied for this test."

[@nathaniellazo5912]

Famous last words

[@hood7488]

xD true

[@Polarwhisper6]

I actually did. but of course, you'd never believe me, the clone said in his head. and thats what makes me feel so secure

[@nursestoyland]

The test:

[@orion9026]

1:29 im sorry what did you say??? XD

[@richardched6085]

heatwave 03 Those bugs aren't Stormtroopers.

[@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870]

Orion 03 Good thing those bugs cannot aim.

[@bluemilk66]

*insert Sienfeld theme

[@raptofilms]

HEARD YOU WERE TALKIN' SHIT - Geonosian artillery crew

[@darthvader8164]

Holden McGroin of course its dead, the comment was 9 months ago!

[@PrimalWaters]

were was the fighter cover? they had the bombers but no fighters.

[@blastech4095]

Good point, only Y-wings and attack gunships are seen. I would say that the distinction may not be so important in regards to the Y-wing, which seems to remain competitive with dedicated starfighters during dogfights (with shields, two heavy laser cannons and a turreted ion cannon), but also carries bombs. It is a fighter bomber, and good at both :) Despite Y wings being used a lot throughout the Clone Wars official books don't mention Acclamtor's or Venator's carrying any. Official numbers may be a "standard" but malleable. In many cases they may have less of the starfighters listed in the description, but more Y-wings and gunships. At one point the Admiral points out that this is a "planetary scale invasion" and has to refuse to send bomber support when requested to one location, so it's also possible more variety of air-power was present elsewhere in other battles around the planet.

[@ph89787]

I'm basing this on Shadow Squadron. But it appears that the Venators are capable of carrying at least 12 Y-Wings.

[@richardched6085]

By this point in the War V-Wings and the Eta-2 Actis haven't entered service yet and the ARC-170 and the Clone Z-85 Headhunter were just being introduced. So far the Republic Navy only had V-19 Torrents Delta-7B Aethersprites and BTL-B Y-Wings (Plus the Surplus Planetary Defense Fleet Starfighters like the Z-95 Headhunter, R-41 Starchaser, R-22 Spearhead, And the H-60 Tempest)

[@Barrobroadcastmaster]

I think I remember seeing the statistics on carrier compliment you listed from the old Cross-sections book, unfortunately it's very outdated. The Nimbus starfighters were I think what they called the V-Wings. But you're definitely right about the Y-Wings; those Y's can definitely handle themselves!

[@AGH331]

Never question military tactics and strategy in The Clone Wars - just gives you a headache. It's all driven by plot. With full space superiority (the Venators seem to be unchallenged over Geonosis) and Acclamators roaming the skies, they could have easily just bombarded the surface and taken out the flak emplacements before landing their troops. The reason events played out like this is because the show's writers wanted heavy casualties and a desperate situation after the landing.

[@Yonkage]

"1,152,000 clone troopers" seems like it's a lot, but it's really not remotely. The Battle of Normandy involved the landing over over 2 million Allied troops in France.

[@Jokumlokum]

yeah the clone trooper numbers are very wierd. But you have to remember that clones were elite class troopers bred for war.

[@richardched6085]

Yonkage the SW galaxy has trillions of Planets with Billions of people each. you would need 6 Star Destroyers to control Earth! (1 or even less with the ICS stats) The Empire has 25000 Star Destroyers at it's height. that's barely enough to control a few hundred planets. plus the empire looses 2-12 Star Destroyers in every major battle of the GCW. their supply would have dwindled to just hundreds by ESB. At least a few Billion Stormtroopers per planet.

[@nickdouglas736]

you'd need one start destroyer to control a planet, they have enough firepower for that here their name.

[@tennoshenaniganizer9234]

Jokke The Dank Pheonix and yet they die like red shirts throughout the first 3 seasons of clone wars

[@shiberu_7s]

@@jianwenjiang6360 nice

[@Gibbs6415]

Due to the lack of fighter escort, a small group of fighters (3 or 4), were able to maneuver between gunships and transports and cut through them like a hot knife through butter. Also, when there are air defenses, you first launch reconnaissance flights (with a damn CAP (Combat Air Patrol), then SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defense) or DEAD (D stands for Destruction), then you send in the transports (again, WITH fighter escort). Seems like the second invasion was more like "Leeeeroy Jenkins", than an actual, planned invasion.

[@MikMoen]

That, or the Venators could have just bombarded the region from altitude.

[@Gibbs6415]

That would make for a poor episode.

[@Halinspark]

Mik Moen You would still want to follow that up with suppression of air defenses, set up a CAP to secure what air superiority you can, and then send in the ground troops to finish the job. You would be amazed at how much stuff survives an air assault. Especially if the opponent has the subterranean networks the Geonosians have.

[@christiandauz3742]

And this is why the Imperium of Man only needs a small force to destroy Star Wars in three years. Such levels of stupidity

[@lionhartjohn1000]

"Small Force", you mean like a couple billion Guardsmen and a Few Thousand Astartes? I mean yeah, 40K would easily win but those Guardsmen would die like always and the Astartes would steal all the glory.

[@gsamalot]

I find it funny that the republic had a hard time getting this planet under control but the second the empire takes over this planet become their planet

[@salter1630]

Ik like how much did they change in profits in like 5 minutes like srrsly what

[@khalduras784]

gsamalot that is because the geonosis didnt had an actual tactical leader.Their supposed generals consists only of geonosis racial leaders who are mostly more on the engineer side of things.

[@Mayordomo32]

gsamalot the droids were all shut down, allowing the empire to concentrate force on geonosis since the droid wars were essentially over

[@CountKibblesNBits]

This is one of the few times I like the "Canon" explanation. Basically once the empire took over it was fairly easy for them to completely subdue Geonosis due to: -This battle destroying quite a few of the planet's defenses and factories -The shutdown of most of the droid army at the end of the war, which would cause a large blow to available manpower. - The main political and military leader Pogo the Lesser was killed by Vader on Mustafar - And the Fact Palpatine is one Bad motherfucker and gives no fucks about ethics and had the entire planet bombed with biological weapons, committing mass genocide against the Geonosians

[@SinerAthin]

I'd also like to point out perhaps the most important reason being the fact that Geonosis was alone after the war. They had allies during the Separatist movement, but by the time of the Empire, they were alone. When you consider the absolutely ludicrous size of the Empire, Geonosis was just a tiny bug(no pun intended!) in comparison to that massive behemoth that was the Empire. It's as if the US had invaded Switzerland... except that US was 1000 times bigger as well. Even if it had been in its strongest, Geonosis would just lose due to sheer weight.

[@snapclub8751]

Clone trooper: Good thing those bugs can’t aim. 1 second later: *Gunship that he’s on gets blown up.*

[@Vikingr4Jesus5919]

"1,152,000 clone troopers 7,680 Republic attack ships 9,216 Alpha 3 Nimbus star-fighters 9,216 Eta 2 Actic class star-fighters 1,728 ARC 170 star-fighters 3,456 AT TE's 2,592 SPHA 960 additional "walkers" (AT TE's, AT RT's, AT AP's, AT OT's) 23,040 speeders" You say? This first landing probably ended with 152.000 less troopers I suspect. Anyone seen Starship Troopers? The First Assault on Klendathu (or something) was quite similar to this. A massacre.

[@tennoshenaniganizer9234]

W. L. Orodor Calaerchon that was my exact thought. They sent in their entire ground force without even trying to get air superiority and they bombed enemy artillery positions only after they lost half their ground teams. And of course they didn't even bother to use any of their 5 venators or 9 acclamators to help in any of that. Like you said, Starship troopers anyone?

[@chancellorpalpatineakathes6130]

It's an ugly planet; a Bug planet. A planet hostile to life as we know it!

[@Vikingr4Jesus5919]

Yea that seems about right, by the Force!

[@sapphireblitzen4683]

Imagine being inside that AT-TE when it fell. 0:54

[@shaansingh7629]

If the pilot and Gunner didn't die on impact then they most definitely would have had serious body damage. Poor bastards.

[@granalmirantethrawn2972]

@@shaansingh7629 don't make me think about that, my poor clone bois

[@shaansingh7629]

@@granalmirantethrawn2972 I know how you feel. The clones have always been my favoutire characters and I hate when anything happens to my guys.

[@yourstruly4817]

@@shaansingh7629 You can just make more of them

[@fabianrocha9924]

The Pilot, the main Gunner, the rear Gunners, the front Gunners, and _possibly_ 20 other Clones(Assuming they were also carrying Troops inside them)

[@DerpyPenguin4747]

I am horribly reminded of the scene in episode 2 where they say something along the lines of "shoot dooku down!" And the clone responds "We're out of rockets." YOU HAVE LASERS USE THOSE!

[@richardched6085]

trekie4747 maybe the gunship was damaged to the point it couldn't use it's Blaster Cannons or it's composite beam turrets. at that point I would just have the gunship turn and have the clones fire their DC-15 Blasters at Dooku's speeder. maybe Rockets were the only weapons that could actually hit Dooku from that distance.

[@anderskaring5742]

You know, the guy who shouts and yellow hair and stuff.

[@51Elite]

Anders Karing Lol btw thats goko not guku

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

You mean Dooku

[@fredericksaillant1421]

DerpyPenguin he says we’re out of ammo

[@watthedeuce6456]

Good things those bugs can't aim... Dies from AA

[@the_alaskan_yeti2652]

Never speak too soon.

[@janslosn3019]

watthe deuce Why are the even using laser cannons, those things have the equivalent use and precision as WWII flak cannons. In a universe with such advance technology why is there no anti air missiles or at least something similar to the AEGIS combat system. They manage to make sentient(ish) droids but not advance targeting system, I call bullshit.

[@knesrevi]

Jans Losn Because missiles are EASY AS FUCK to counter... You dont just stop a laser with CW systems... Aka missiles are outdated but ion torpedoes are like missiles but instead of a rocket propelled kinetic APHE or chemical HEAT its literally a supercharged ion charge contained in a rocket propelled "canister"...

[@knesrevi]

Jans Losn Also the laser cannons seem to be extremly accurate.

[@janslosn3019]

knesrevi fair point, lasers travel at 3*10^8 m/s and go at straight line. so yeah they're accurate af. However seeing from this clip, it is far too slow to be a laser. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that they're not laser but plasma. I'm not going as far as counting the frames to get the exact speed, so I'll assume they have the same speed as modern bullets. Seeing how the gun is manually guided means it's comparable to WW2 AA gun, which has an average hit rate of 0.9%. However the number is even lower in this case since those gun have neither proximity fuse or timed fuse, so they won't explode near an aircraft. So yeah, missiles are more effective as an anti-air counter in this case.

[@nc9202]

The Clone Wars show was so amazing. There is no other show like it.

[@seth2815]

I have watched these two episodes a dozen times the past 8 years, they are what got me hooked on TCW as a kid. The epicness, emotion, everything.

[@Bambi113]

One of my favorite episodes. The Clone Wars did these huge battles so well.

[@Denji_Not_Chainsawman]

"Good things those bugs can't aim" dies a half of a seconds later by a bug

[@nathaniellazo5912]

Famous last words

[@SevenDeadlybraincells3062]

"Good thing bugs can't aim" Famous las words 😂

[@Justin-un7nx]

1:29 top 10 anime betrayals.

[@jturcios4607]

JKEMI : 😂😂😂

[@TheFirstCurse1]

That made me laugh out loud god damn

[@jacksondunphey2620]

I loved this whole story arc becuase it really does get to the roots of the clone wars, it all began on geonosis and the resemblance of dropping gunships and massive clone battalions is so cool

[@anyothernamelikemashugana2532]

The narrator be like: the city of townsville

[@hbme2103]

i was wondering why the narrator sounds so familiar.

[@blitzwaffe]

I'm pretty sure the narrator for Power Puff Girls is Tom Kenny (Voice of Spongebob, Scaramouche, etc.) while the narrator for Clone Wars is Tom Kane.

[@GRIMLOCK07]

Who also voices Admiral Yularen in TCW.

[@thorzcunstellarfighter3724]

0:16 omg that melody is so awesome! I wish i could listen to that soundtrack somehow

[@Hans-pr9vu]

"Good thing those bugs can't aim" Were his last words.

[@nickmacarius3012]

"Do we want to establish air superiority before going balls deep into their defenses??" "Nah. What's the worst that could happen??"

[@willj78]

"They've sent out the fighters, but I wonder what those star destroyers are doing" The Acclamators could have been providing a huge amount of fire support

[@tennoshenaniganizer9234]

Bookhead714 Actually there a pretty well armed and can engage in battle. This entire battle could've been won in a single hour but they did everything wrong. They held the big ships back instead of using them for bombardment and air support. They didn't have any air superiority fighters to take the sky. They sent their ground teams into a slaughter.

[@punctuationman334]

A. Morphous they’re decently well armed, they can perform orbital bombardment if necessary, but venators are far more suited to this task.

[@phantompillows]

@@a.morphous66 the star destroyers are fighting the enemy dreadnoughts

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@phantompillows WHAT enemy dreadnoughts? and how would the Republic be able to enter Geonosis airspace if there was an actual defensive fleet in the way?

[@phantompillows]

@@christopherbravo1813 mf I don't know, I dropped this comment a year ago, my guy is still responding to this 💀

[@GreenNinj4]

Disney will never make something as epic as this

[@YAH93]

1:29 "Good thing the bugs can't aim." Famous last words there.

[@kaakabe]

1:06 i love how these Y-wings makes stuka sounds

[@slim12456]

Seriously how did we go from this to rebels? Wtf

[@KenoshiAkai]

Better writing.

[@X3H3X]

Disney

[@deanmurphy7307]

Rebels was to be more kid friendly which explains the animation style. The clone wars was always for a more slightly mature audience.

[@christophersanchez7731]

If you mean the space battles, then even if writing is a factor, another fact is the difference between the Clone Wars and the Galactic Civil War. In Clone Wars, both factions are two superpowers with their own federal armies In the Galactic Civil War, or in the era of Rebels before the war officially began, one faction was a Superpower, the Galactic Empire The other is a much smaller faction the Rebel Alliance Rebels is a tale how the Rebellion came to be Not long after the Empire’s founding, Rebel Cells formed in different areas of the Galaxy. To resist Imperial Control Over the nearly 2 decades more Cells was founded, but were all independent of eachother despite their common goal. No Cells have the power or manpower to fight an open War with the Empire, so it’s mostly skirmishes or Guerilla Warfare Raids Even after the Cells came together and became the Rebel Alliance, they still lacked the manpower to openly go to war with the Empire. Then Alderan and Yavin happened which the Galaxy both saw the evil of the Empire and how it’s possible to hurt it. It encouraged mass imperial defections, eventually making the Rebellion more of a Superpower, making the conflict more of a Civil War But the Empire still had the advantage, even as Luke became a symbol of hope. It wasn’t until Endor, The Rebellion became its own superpower and became the New Republic which defeated the Empire later on So Rebels there’s only small skirmishes to be expected, post Endor it became more of a Galactic War

[@granalmirantethrawn2972]

@@christophersanchez7731excellent explanation, great comment bro.

[@Cloofinder]

Clone: Good thing those bugs can't aim. Geonosian: I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!!

[@thudthud5423]

Technical note: the Republic attack force lacked defensive fighters. They had a ground assault group - the gunships and the armor deployment vehicles. They had a bomber group for attacking ground installations. Those two groups did take on Geonosian intercept aircraft, but a dedicated group of escort fighters could have held them off.

[@mikkel066h]

I could watch an entire series on just the Resolute's campaigns and battles. Like Star trek enterprise just with a venator.

[@wiryantirta]

I see Geonosians have adopted the Skywalker school of flight maneuvers: spinning.

[@northamericanintercontinen3207]

The narrator gives THAT old timey WW2-esque newsreel vibe and I love it

[@rush4g]

The clone wars will always be my favorite part of the story. All the OG jedi and before Anakin went bad. The galaxy felt so much larger...

[@tygamer63]

1:28 I feel like this would be the perfect place for a "to be continued" meme...

[@georgebrown1407]

That one idiot that jinxed his whole crew.

[@jonathanwalicegaming773]

"It's a good thing those bugs can't aim." Instant karma.

[@michelecastellotti9172]

Some might think that the number of clones were few... but keep in mind, the republic worlds HAD small militaries on their own, it is mentioned in the episodes on christophsis, only when they had been unable to defend themselves any longer on their own the republic sent in the 212th and the 501st

[@Martin-117]

Clone Trooper: "good thing those bugs can't aim." [EXPLOSION!] Narrator: "IT WAS IN FACT THE OPPOSITE, THAT THE BUGS COULD INDEED, AIM."

[@cadetfrazier5296]

I can’t get over how empty geonosis felt in this arc. This was the epicenter of the war at one point, but this time it’s just another battle. It invokes a weird feeling

[@tcp3059]

That's one hell of an invasion force.

[@noahwindhouwer2977]

ok just a question why would the not orbital bombart everything first then send in clones

[@VeeranLegacy]

I think orbital bombardment is against the rules of engagement of the Republic, that was a strategy use by the Sith Empire and the Galactic Empire; plus I don't think the Venator-class can do efficient orbital bombardement, it was built more as a star carrier than a true star destroyer.

[@noahwindhouwer2977]

ok yes that is true but if the first time cost that much lives would you nut just make one exception

[@VeeranLegacy]

+dinogames this is a question for Dave Filoni, but from a story point of view my guess is they didn't have The firepower, the Acclamator-class barely act as an anti starfighter frigate, it is closer to a cargo hauler than a true warship and 6 Venator don't do that much damage, from the studio point of view I think it would be to easy and less fun to watch but again it is my personnal thoughts

[@noahwindhouwer2977]

ok yes but these were not acclamators they were venotaurs the first star destroyers and i dont think that the facility is the only target so are the geonosians so maybe inaccuracy is helpfull

[@ianli3027]

Also, the Geonosians had built thousand if not millions of underground installations and factories

[@y.r._]

If the Umbara Arc was the Vietnam of Star Wars, this was definitely Operation Overlord.

[@layfonal1889]

Genuinely I fucking love a whole fleet of venators I don’t know why but they do give off some kind of satisfaction even tho they are badly constructed in comparison to other similar ships.

[@bananaonions7591]

“Good things those bugs can’t aim” - gets shot

[@okai7er]

"good thing these bugs cant aim" *immediately gets shot down*

[@tennoshenaniganizer9234]

RenzheDude guess his name was "Jinx"

[@nathaniellazo5912]

Famous last words

[@BelgianDneprGuy2003]

"Good thing those bugs can't aim" -Famous last words of a clone trooper in 2009

[@epicmickey2351]

None of that tame shit like on Star Wars Rebels.

[@skomeg11]

Bitch, Rebels still can't compare to The Clone Wars. Deal with it.

[@Joshua-ej7ww]

In the clone wars the same shit and worse happens. Are you going to ignore the amount of clones decapitated, executed, sliced in half?

[@martingrof1685]

Rebels is pretty tame. The music, acting, etc.

[@samuelthompson7497]

ReconBrixCustoms Now now, although I hate rebels I still think it has some cool characters like Sabine or Admiral Thrawn. Thats it TBH and its annoying how disney refuses to kill anyone

[@Tenhys]

Ha ha ha ! _"Rebels isn't bad, Clone Wars is just too good."_ You'll have to excuse me for the laugh because i'm enjoying the irony (though i do not disagree with the statement.) For the movies, the community love the original trilogy and hate the pre-logy. But for the show, they love the pre-logy and hate the trilogy. It's kind of funny, really XD But i kind of understand where it's coming from. See, what happened in the movie Trilogy is what's happening in the "prelogy show" and what's happening in the "trilogy show" is what happened in the prelogy : relation between talk/preparation to fight/action. In the movies, the trilogy shows the fight between the alliance and the empire with very little talk or "narrative building up" as to explain the conflict, because the conflict truly already had started and made the movie centered around "how the conflict is waged" and less about the "reasons that lead to the conflict". In the prelogy that was the opposite. The pre-logy movies were centered around the reasons why the republic fell *willingly* into an Empire while the Clone Wars, and all the battles waged in it, were a smoke screen for Palpatine's ascension to power, while in the trilogy, the rebels are fighting against impossible odds to restore that same republic to it's original state before the fall - hey're at a point where talking serves no prupose and only the fighting is left. For the "trilogy show", it's the rebels that are building their strength prior to finally engaging the Empire in open battle (the civil war) and are relying on smuggling, spying and building "alliances" through secret meetings and the usage of diplomacy, while the Empire is standing at a point where it's strength is _actually_ impossible to confront straight on, while in the pre-logy show the war is already well on, with the Clone and Separatists armies fighting on a thousand worlds accross the galaxy. So of course both shows cannot relate in terms of "intensivity of actions", because both are facing very different contexts from each other : "Clone Wars" was an all-out conflict between two sides that were relatively well matched ; ideal for this kind of setup. "Rebels", in the other hand, is an iolated group of dissidents fighting against an Empire _prior_ to the destruction of the Death Star and the subsequent fightings that followed during the Galactic Civil War. In a nutshell it is *normal* that we're not able to see the same kind of fighting we've seen in "Clone Wars" happening in "Rebels", because everything's on a different scale.

[@maddoxcindy5017]

This is the peak of the First 2,5 seasons. 20 minutes filled with dust, blaster bolts and death

[@PresidentoftheManosquare]

You'd never launch an invasion without softening up the defenders first. They lost so many gunships going in.

[@cmathews8247]

point rain and umbara were by far my favorite arcs of the entire series

[@firstgalacticempire8928]

Why was there no Separatist blockade over Geonosis?? That's where the droid factories are!!

[@j.m7555]

Pzkpfw V if you watch the previously at the beginning of the episode they explain how the blockade was broken

[@dr.boring7022]

That easy? How did the Separatist successfully defend Jabiim, but fail to protect Geonosis?

[@richardched6085]

Dr. Boring Jabiim had it's own planetary defenses which were able to fight the initial Republic Invasion for a few weeks. And it was difficult to get ships through the turbulent atmosphere.

[@punctuationman334]

CentauriA _Gaming_ may have been new tech or just way to expensive.

[@alpha-1730]

@@dr.boring7022 Not to mention it’s hinted in the show that the Geonosians had revolted fairly recently, so they probably had 1-2 weeks at most to set up proper defenses of the system after it was literally just in Republic hands.

[@MarfeeWarfee]

Even for an animated series, it's really good at portraying how absolutely brutal this scene is. Imagine this in live action

[@SuperCompany007]

I’ll never get tired of massive fleets coming out of hyperspace at once

[@caliperstorm8343]

It’s amazing how good this show still looks all these years later. Computer graphics has come a long way since then, but the art direction has made it hold up really well

[@richardlew3667]

Maybe the Republic should let actual officers be in command rather than letting a bunch of peacekeepers take charge

[@Benjamin-yl4xl]

When you're a clone and you don't see any main characters in your gunship.

[@andrewmaddox9786]

They launched Y-Wing Bombers, and Gunships and had no fighter escort. I find that a little odd

[@punctuationman334]

Writers can’t implement proper tactics.

[@facundopollacino7956]

El novato: "oye, ¿porqué el Almirante Yularen está hablando sólo?". El veterano: "es para motivarnos".

[@Teddybomber87]

1:29 Sector is clear...not clear not clear

[@codycastillo4131]

I remember watching this as a kid, jaw on the floor, thinking this was the most exciting thing I'd ever seen on TV. Good memories.

[@trymetal95]

The landing on Geonosis is oddly remniscent of the landing on Omaha beach during D-day. There too very little went as planned. They encountered way stronger defences than they planned, many groups landed in the wrong places and practically no primary objectives were achieved in the planned manner. Heavy casualties were sustained but in the end the landing forces won.

[@bryancrowe91]

You'd think a major manufacturer for most of your Army would be more protected, with, I dunno, a blockade? Was there not one in this episode or did it get edited out?

[@Jokumlokum]

They explain earlier how the blockade was broken

[@jeffanderson8165]

Respectfully, "Blockade" is not the right term. Blockades refer specifically to the strategy of containing an enemy port or lines of commerce. Perhaps a better term would be "Station a Garrison Fleet to Defend a Vital Interest?" I know it's clumsy, but, IMO, it's more accurate...

[@guardianexe_30]

Who needs a blockade when you have them annoying as fuck bugs defending it XD

[@SnepBlepVR]

POV:of the entire platoon of clones in your gunship you only have one line and there are no main characters and no other dialogue.

[@therelentlessnight941]

1:07 Stuka noise

[@The_last_prime]

bro you rock the description is amazing man

[@Darkness_56526]

1:28 Palatine: I since a disturbance in the *irony*

[@nightking3877]

„Good thing Those bugs can‘t aim!“ *BAM*

[@zebfirehd9102]

if the invansion scale looks smart Just remember when this was being made. I doubt they had a budget or computer power to actually display to scale. p.s Disney also didn't control it at the time either.

[@Intreductor]

1:06 Luftwaffe bomber wuzzing :D This particular battle group seemed to attack the Baktoid Armor Workshop HQ on Geonosis. What we see is one single Geonosian hive being assaulted, and it was the seat of the manufacturing company known as Baktoid Armor Workshop that supported the Confederacy of Independent Systems.

[@markadriantomlinson200]

R.I.P Carrie Fisher. may the force be with you,,,,,,,Always *:(*

[@David-jt9nt]

The Republic failed basic landing prep; they had bombers without fighter cover (1 fighter for every 4 to 5 bombers), they were putting drop ships into a combat area that had not been bombed at all, and the fighters weren't covering the drop ships all in all a lot of troops and gear could have been saved if they did it right

[@rafaelnishizumi6330]

i wonder would landing those Acclamator would be better than just sending Gunship with no fighter support? (either way u will need air cover i know)

[@richardched6085]

ken nanodesu poi Acclamators can supposedly take extreme damage due to their Neutronium Hull Cladding (More durable than Durasteel but also much heavier) even a Nuke won't scratch it. And yet those Proton Cannons can?

[@X3H3X]

Remember they had serious AA on the planet. When they tried attacking Ryloth to free the Twileks, one Acclamator lost an engine due to AA and was shot down

[@yissnakkjr8230]

Ah yes. The single battle I remember in the Clone Wars where they finally brought back the ball turrets on the LAATs

[@comradeskeever1336]

Good thing those bugs can't aim.

[@Shelby_Moe5.2]

1:28 “Good thing those bugs can’t aim” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@97111nick]

I've always been wondering that why the writers of Clone Wars TV series had to put the republic military in lower hand all the time: Clone troopers shooting like storm trooper; Vanader-class fleet always overrun by separatist's fleet; never bombard hostile facilities from the orbit,etc..... Orl am I just too serious : ^) ?

1. plot armor 2. plot armor 3. not cool enough, but this can be at least explained by breaking some form of rules of war.

[@boblaryson3621]

+attackmaster555 they bomb the enemy with y wings why can't they just use the main turbo lasers of the verenators on them ?

[@Spessforce]

But remember that is 200 gigatons at a directed point of impact, not an airburst. It is still destructive, it just has a much smaller footprint. It is like comparing a bullet to a hand grenade.

[@mariagloriadelcarmen]

Obi-wan Kenobi remembers the last time he was at geonosis he was chained up in the pole and battling several humongous beasts in the arena it was entertaining for the genosions

[@unhandydaddy5117]

Time-traveller: "So Master Yoda how is the war going?" Yoda: "Invaded Geonosis we have hmm" Time-traveller: "The first invasion or the second?" Yoda: *THE FUCKIN WHAT?*

[@FEARSWTOR]

"All of the fighters are attacking. I wonder what those star destroyers are waiting for."

[@guitarplayer4863]

I find your lack of subscribers disturbing. Wouldn't you agree Admiral?

[@jturcios4607]

Guitar player 48 yes

[@kirk9510]

"Good things those bugs can't aime" - Rick, 2 seconds before dying

[@bigobigowl6858]

So they decimate armies of natives, invade their lands, kill with no mercy because they are just 'bugs', all this to impose the authority of the republic. Who are the bad guys in that battle ?

[@Spessforce]

It was more of a strategic raid on the factory networks that produced millions of battle droids. The Geonosians themselves had nothing to do with it, the Republic just wanted to stop the production chain.

[@bigobigowl6858]

true. but the way Genosians are treated is disgusting. Jedis make jokes about killing them and call them bugs. That's thrilling.

[@richardched6085]

bigo bigowl their just bugs. not human beings (I am a patriot) plus their factory would kill much more than the republic did.

[@richardched6085]

bigo bigowl imagine the Jedi having to deal with Human Separatists. might raise a few eyebrows in the Senate. oh wait this is WAR. and no amount of disposable armies will stop REAL people from signing up to fight for what they believe in.

[@girlgarde]

I'm not a fan of how the Geonosians were treated in this episode either. Fighting and killing them in battle is fine but the Republic forces treated them like they were battle droids inside of organic foes that the Republic is suppose to have rules of engagement in dealing with.

[@KitFoxune]

Clone: "Good thing those bugs can't aim..." Murphy "I love my job..."

[@chipbipple2593]

Ok, you don't have to be a total history or military tactics pedant to say that this whole sequence is bullshit. The GAR warp in 12 carrier/cruisers into the system without a single enemy warship in sight. They just surprise attacked their way into orbital superiority. If they want to plunge several armor and infantry divisions straight into the heart of the enemy, as apposed to landing them somewhere else and rolling them there, go for it! But they have to smash the Geonosian defenses FIRST. They should have bombarded the enemy emplacements from orbit, then sent a few squadrons of recon fighters and bomber squadrons to mop up anything they missed, then landed their ground troops. I know apposed landings like ANZAC Cove and Omaha Beach are cinematic and exciting, but it makes the Jedi look like hopeless amatuers. If that's what the writers were going for (and they certainly could have gone for it, the Jedi were not trained for this) then they should have gone all the way.

[@Qatrebew]

planetary shield defenses are better than orbital bombardments in star wars

[@chipbipple2593]

Qatrebew Then get a carrier ship below the shield. We've seen those low enough to break through clouds on a planet before, and the escort frigates can even land on the surface of Coruscant.

[@TheFacelessStoryMaker]

Clone Wars era ships both Republic and CIS were cool. LAAT, AT-TE, Venator, Z-95 Headhunter, Lucrehulk, Providence Class, Vulture Droids. All awesome.

[@demoAnimation]

wow the strategic planning of this attack was garbage.... who thought it was a good idea to make the jedi generals again...?

[@girlgarde]

I know, right? They should've done an orbital bombardment on their target area, then went into secure air supremacy and THEN send in the invasion force to take out the remaining enemy forces.

[@bobman3093]

@@girlgarde I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to do orbital bombardments