Secret Level Warhammer 40k Reaction | Pacman Reaction

[@SixshotRevan]

The fight choreography for the Warhammer episode was done by the guy behind the Astartes Project, and it really shows. Pure awesome.

[@Nyx_2142]

Its very telling that Syama's influence wasn't felt again in 40k until AFTER he left GW to freelance and was contracted by Blur for Secret Level. Games Workshop is truly incompetent when it comes to handling talent, and just in general. Though, you are the only damn comment I've seen mention Syama across many reactions that doesn't try and paint him as a god of animating, and ascribe the entirety of the episode to his effort alone. He was the layout artist, an important role, but its infuriating watching people worship him and ignore the rest of the Blur team that did the animations, sound, and so much more for the episode. I like his work, he knows his craft, but the damn worship goes too far and I can only imagine how insulting it must be to see work you spent months busting your ass on, potentially years depending how far back this was planned, being entirely attributed to a freelance contractor.

[@hrodebrt]

@@Nyx_2142 Oh you sweet summer child, if you seriously think GW didn't know what they were doing by silencing Syama by buying him out and leaving him on the shelf then I have news for you. They knew what they were doing.

[@Frostknight231]

@@Nyx_2142 how the emperor felt

[@Jasta85]

The chaos sorcerer was killing the Space Marines using their greatest fear, but Titus doesn't know fear so it didn't work on him.

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

why doesn't he have fear? was this explained?

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

He is literally built different.

[@SolusArmatura]

​@Dave_of_Mordor He just doesn't. No other explanation.

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@SolusArmatura damn I really wanted to know why. I thought it was because he has some kind of psychic ability he didn't know about and it repressed the fear emotion of his brain

[@Podokodo23]

@@Dave_of_Mordor IMO it's because we will eventually find out that Titus is a form of "blank" or null, meaning they are immune..ish to chaos's influence.

[@MrGBH]

Considering how many candles and wax purity seals the Imperium goes through, they must have hundreds of worlds dedicated solely to bees

[@Zombiewithabowtie]

@@MrGBH It would not surprise me. There are worlds of the Imperium given over wholly to mining, agriculture, worship - some worlds are referred to as Cemetery Worlds, entire planets turned into vast mausoleums.

[@ZannNewman]

maybe they have giant holy bees?

[@jezmerritt]

​@@ZombiewithabowtieIt's actually from a few of those Cemetery worlds that a fair few of those candles come from. Tallow is much easier for the Imperium to come by than bees.

[@haraldbredsdorff2699]

Candles can be made out of many thing. Including fat. And the Empire have plenty of humans with fat :p

[@Knight-Bishop]

​@@haraldbredsdorff2699 Corpses do have a lot more than starch, after all. "We use every part of the -animal- citizen"

[@thepiousskull]

The Space Marine episode was centered around the concept of fear and how it shapes us. We experience that through the eyes of Metaurus, a Bladeguard Sergeant of the Ultramarines. When selecting for new recruits, he came upon a unique child, a child filled with pain and rage, a child without fear (Titus). All other recruits begin from a place of fear but are conditioned and trained to overcome it. At a fundamental level, however, they are still human. They still err and they still can experience fear and doubt. While Metaurus loved Titus as a mentor might, he came to be afraid over Titus' potential should he fall to the corruption of Chaos. What would he become? What could that child he trained be capable of? We see his concern over Titus' aggression in the moment when he charges the heretics' commandeered tank. Later on when they've delved into the caverns to plant the beacon that will signal the vessel in orbit to destroy the Chaos relic beneath, we see the Sorcerer appear. He effortlessly dispatches each marine by entering their minds and embodying their fear, literally using their fears and doubts to kill them. The first marine fears that he could falter from some internal weakness, so his armor rips him out of itself and crushes him. Metaurus fears that Titus' nature will lead him to betraying him and his brothers, so the Sorcerer manifests as a corrupted Titus and stabs him. Then, the Sorcerer enters the mind of Titus but he appears in his true form because there is no fear for him to inhabit and Titus marches towards him unshaken and breaks his staff which shatters it in the real world and stops the time freeze spell. The end is Titus refusing to allow his mentor and brother to die and dragging him out of the cave before the orbital bombardment hits to destroy the Chaos relic. Metaurus, likely dying from his wounds, remarks to Titus that they fulfilled their duty in completing the mission and that it is time for Titus to leave him to which Titus responds "not yet, old man." Metaurus then looks on in pride at Titus, the child without fear, and sees his true potential: a loyal soldier whose lack of fear provides a resolve against corruption and a steadfast loyalty to his brothers in the face of overwhelming odds.

[@Icarus6783]

Great outline!

[@BeardPower666]

At the risk of sounding stupid, what happened to the fourth Marine?

[@thepiousskull]

@@BeardPower666 He was killed by the Sorcerer through the same means but entrance into his mind was not shown on screen. We only see his body collapse.

[@dagonofthedepths]

I guess that kind of depends on how the marine is written. Some take that line, "they shall know no fear" literally. But still doesn't really matter. Warp stuff you can say if the marine ever felt fear or doubt it'll affect him even if it's from when he was a kid and doesn't remember it anymore and all marines still have doubts regardless.

[@Xero_Kaiser]

We see Metaurus' Sus-an Membrane being primed, so he likely survives.

[@jamesmayes4351]

Dont forget that for a Space Marine, duty only ends in death. So when he says out duty is done, its time to go, he means its time to die.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯

[@alexreiz6128]

-"Coffin?". -"Maybe weapons case. Or Coffin that doubles as weapon case" That's nat 20 roll on insight, cause effectively yes, psyker kinda *is* weapon case/coffin here

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😁🤗

[@TenebrousFilms]

The first marine died due to some form of imposter syndrome. The squad leader feared Titus would turn to Chaos, and was thus betrayed. But Titus had no fear for the guardian to exploit, to its brief regret. Mission accomplished; realised mortality: 50%.

[@adamklasa7270]

The first one propably feared that he was nothing without his Armour

[@adamklasa7270]

And mortality was most likely 100%. The Space Marine on the Battle Barge says "Ordnance inbound, die well Brothers", so they are propably nuking their position

[@Icarus6783]

Yep. You can see what is written on his pauldron after he falls - "The Lie."

[@SSgtJ0hns0n]

If 90% casualties for the Guardsmen is a decisive victory, 50% must be an epic overwhelming victory of victories.

[@WashedSotta]

@adamklasa7270 but what happened to the 4th one? there was clearly 4 of them yet they only showed 3 of the fears. then at the end only the squad leader and titus remain. what happened to the 4th character?

[@codebread5315]

Interesting note, the blade Young Titus is hauling along is actually a Combat Knife that Space Marines wield. Quiet the the size difference. Also this takes place after Space Marine 2's campaign as Titus has the Laurels of Victory on his helmet given to him at the end of the game. The Pac-man Episode on the swords guard piece in the middle is the PacMan symbol pretty cool detail.

[@JoshuaSmith1986]

All those years in the Pizza places and mall arcades. I had no idea pacman could've been the monster.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Right?! 🤯

[@jullianpree6791]

Actually there is a new pac man game that the video was based off of. Look it up on you tube. The trailer came out maybe a week or two ago.

[@JoshuaSmith1986]

You guys are definitely right. When I watched the Warhammer one, I played space marine 2 right afterwards. And the pacman one gave me shivers. I saw the gameplay for the game that it references. It's not as gorry as the animation from what I saw, but it still is creepy. Interesting theory of packman being the monster. It's called Shadow Labyrinth. Side scroller game.

[@thedarkknight2221]

Imagine an entire episode of Secret Level that shows the final fight of The Emperor and Horus done with this level of animation.

[@knuckles543]

episode? do a whole show, multiple seasons

[@Corusame]

In the universe of W40K belief can actually manifest in different impactful ways and is often used to empower individuals or even whole races. Its not hard to concieve that Titus' pure unwavering devotion to the Emperor and humanity is that strong that it manifests in making him utterly incorruptable and gives him an impenetrable resilience against the forces of chaos.

[@literalsarcasm1830]

Lieutenant Titus is officially John Warhammer

[@Amphyaraus]

LOL underrated comment

[@thiagohayashi9936]

Some people are calling that box as a Psyker Grenade. It just contains a Psyker. We use him as a grenade.

[@stevenbanks1548]

The fight scene only illuminated by glowing blood is *chefs kiss* What an incredible scene.

[@SixshotRevan]

Pac Man was easily the most entertainingly bizarre episode of Secret Level. I know it was more about Shadow Labyrinth than actual Pac Man, but that doesn't make it any less strange. Pac Man feels like a 2000s Doctor Who villain in this.

[@Angelimir]

The coffin-psyker was an astropath (hence the blindness, their eyes sort of melt when they recieve the rigorous psychic indoctrination to resist chaos), used for long-range communciation, and probably served a double purpose of both protecting the marines from warp-fuckery (as long as he could, at least), and as a target beacon to home in the orbital bombardment on.

[@billbillinger2117]

And yes, that was a regular Astartes combat knife little Titus was dragging behind him.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😯

[@vRED13vTTV]

i love the way they approached pac-man, turning it into a horror game, where (ms) pac-man is trapped in the maze, and is trying to use those people to escape, because the door will only open for something humanoid shaped

[@alexparadise91]

The amount of cinema they packed into the warhammer episode needs to be studied.

[@kgblyat6919]

"Is it bad that I want to play as her?" Yes Inquisitor, this video right here.

[@standanddeliver2925]

That headbutt was personal.

[@dagonofthedepths]

My understanding of the Secret Level series is that all these animations are based on the respective IPs of each episode not necessarily confirmed extensions of them. I think that's cool because you can the artistic freedom to push things in directions that are not 100% canon but the IP holders can still expand off that if they want. Like the 40k one, you can put that as a direct sequel to Space Marine 2 or you can say it's some unrelated mission or it just ignore it, and Blur gets to tell a nice story. Also, might as well say it because someone is Syama Pedersen, the guy that did Astartes, worked on that episode as a layout artist. They are the people that translate the story board process into the 3d bit. Honestly a very important job but really Blur has upwards of 300 people working for them. Still, cool they hired him. Shows they care and are smart enough to scout good talent.

[@Xero_Kaiser]

The 40k episode is the exception since it _is_ a direct sequel to Space Marine 2.

[@connortalbert814]

The chaos that was encountered is of tzeench and the little man is a sanctioned psyker thus why he was brought along in the coffin to keep his powers at full for as long as possible

[@XavierShade]

I’m so glad the Astartes guy Syama is back! This episode of Secret Level is peak cinema!

[@ThePigeon5734]

I love how every reaction I've seen to that fight scene near the beginning of the 40K, the blokes are having the time of their lives watching it while the ladies are just looking awkward or terrified, it's just kind of funny.

[@broman3364]

Really loved the Warhammer reaction. So the guy that was in the coffin is a Psyker. They are both dangerous but also useful. They can enact their will into the warp and use it for powers at their disposal. What you saw was a registered psyker, who job it was to keep the marines safe from the forces of chaos. Hence why you briefly saw the shield around the marines and protecting them. When the deamon was close, the marines were still active, but once the Deamon took out their Psyker, they were at it's mercy. Another cool hint, if you look back in the footage, the eyes of the men were dilated and wide. Titus eyes never dilated or widened since he had one single goal. His hatred for the deamon. And that is what kept him alive. Great reactions once again.

[@Gruber122]

Only in Death does Duty end "Our Duty is done, its time to go" "Not yet old man"

[@Maxmillion77]

The Pac-man episode is basically a prequel to the new game they announced called Shadow Labyrinth.

[@creed55]

The secret level episodes were all very cool. Im just relieved that there are still folks with vivid imaginations on our world. :)

[@JesseVin11]

Titus is now an anomily because we've now learnt he has never felt fear and cannot feel it. Which despite all their bluster space marines are capable of fearing they just dont recognise the emotion anymore, In the book Saturnine, Rogal Dorn (Primarch of the Imperial Fists) before the Siege of Terra, describes how he is feeling to a human and the human tells him that may be fear you are feeling in which Dorn smiles and remarks on ‘Fear… So that’s what it tastes like. Well, well.’ As always love the reaction, also lock up whoever came up with the Pacman idea.

[@bethbearmacethatguy]

Only in death does duty end.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Space marine 2 one was freaking fantastic and a great Warhammer entry.

[@rowanirish]

I've been watching loads of reaction videos to "And they shall know no fear" and I started wondering what will that dude who's watched a load of 40k stuff with his wife think of this. I bet he'll love it. It was cool to see you did indeed dig it.

[@fabi3790]

Ohh you wanna play as her? As the chaos sorcerer? Welcome to Chaos. Join us

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

😈

[@T57Custodian]

The "computer' probably prefers the lighting.

[@thedarkknight2221]

Between Secret Level debuting, Space Marine 2 getting new content dropped, and Henry Cavill’s Warhammer 40k series FINALLY going into production, ALL IN ONE DAY, it is a truly amazing time for 40K fans EVERYWHERE! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!

[@granddaddyotaku636]

"There's strength in repetition..." 😈

[@risingforce9291]

Titus is definitely eligible for Grey Knight neophyte/aspirant. He is even doubted by some of the Ultramarine Chaplains but he remains incorruptible nonetheless.

[@beroyblinkins1621]

WAAAGH! I love that they got Idris Elba to voice that Marine!

[@jameshurley9551]

This episode literally made me buy Space Marine 2. That game is like playing an epic movie too. I can't wait for the Amazon show. Good review you two!

[@Zeromortisimus]

Titus: I dont remember inviting you into my head, heretic.

[@Piotrus2019]

Counterpoints40K nicely explains what is happening in the film (also the question that Metaurus asks).

[@Netsaver]

It's not that Pac-man, called Puck in this due to being called Puck-Man originally, is is running the place as it is that they are trapped in a maze and are trying to get out of the maze. Hence why the 'Chosen' said before he died, "I'm not the one trapped you are." Because Puck is indeed trapped. Also the whole repetition line is basically how gamers do things over and over again, repetition, and getting better with each new try. I will admit the last bit I saw someone else mention in another video but it made sense once I saw it.

[@cyclone8974]

It seems like whatever they do to the black doppelganger is reflected back on them.

[@Spe3tre-001]

Fun fact: The sigils that burned off of the sholder pads of the marines are called purity seals. So if there being burned off that isnt a good sign of things to come.

[@knuckles543]

warp detectors, shame they don't double as a kind of shielding

[@Curli1987]

there was a game trailer during one of the game awards for a new Pac-man that was more of a metroidvania style.

[@bigmonkeking9067]

Remember...the Space Marines are the main characters.

[@en_tub3]

Pac-man episode is apparently for an upcoming game with a different take on Pac-man, its called "Shadow Labyrinth"

[@rocknowradio]

3:50 I want to know what is that tzeentnchian white fluffy thing.

[@maeckknox6535]

Cant wait for the armored core secret level

[@the-orenge-head]

The angels of death will know no fear

[@Papascorch7969]

The guy who made astartes animation made this as well with gw and u can tell his favorite things is no look impailes lol

[@Nyx_2142]

"as well with gw" No, he hasn't worked for GW for a long time now. He is a freelancer, with his own studio, and was specifically contracted by Blur (who made the entire series) as a layout artist for the episode. He didn't "make it", there is an entire damn team of animators, designers and artists that worked on it. His influence is felt, which is obvious since he was the damn layout artist. But the Blur team is a helluva lot bigger than single layout artist they contracted, after GW wasted his talent for years by doing nothing (beyond ruining his project).

[@Kalolui94]

we all love the space marine one and are still disturbed about the pac-man one jajaja

[@innocuousalias6632]

There is a pacman short film similarly dark. It's a man in a yellow space suit trying to escape a derelict space ship with zombie/ghost space men lurking around. It's been so long since I seen it I don't remember all the details. I should rewatch it.

[@foxeye245]

Was it Something about Paac-man?

[@innocuousalias6632]

@@foxeye245 It was so long ago I forgot the most important part, it was a trailer for an indie game called P. Ackman. There are some letsplays of the beta from about 3 years ago. The channel "Alpha Beta Gamer" has a link for the beta along with some gameplay. I have a feeling namco or whoever owns pacman tried to kill this parody game but who knows.

[@jalcome4201]

love the energy in this vid

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

And we shall know no fear!

[@Zwulf66]

i love these so much like sure some are games i dont care for or whatever but i'd say 3/4s i do, and even the games idont the animation and quality on these were impeccable. The Pac-man episode is crazy to take the concept of being addicted to playing as "repetition" and the stuff that was being eaten as the "White Dots" was a crazy concept, and then the guy that was being used is supposed to be the Player. the Gosts seemed like they were apex predators things that with out the right "food" would easily kill Pac-man.

[@usernamealreadytaken9330]

There's a lot of debate over how many tech priest is needed for the incandescent replacement ritual, that debate was escalated to civil war and splitted Adeptus Mechanicus into two faction. The loyalist of the ancient mechanicum and traitor, the Dark mechanicum, who fell to chaos. Since the debate never resolve, they just use candle instead of light bulb. I am Alpharius, *this is a lied.*

[@saywhatnow7365]

We need an AI interview with Joe Rogan and Titus. lolol

[@robertbuckey6517]

Titus's lack of magazine retention bothers me.

[@crnlonewolf3195]

I don’t know the pac man episode made me think of something about Alan wake 2 dlc about coffee world coffee being cult and evil Hahaha

[@bigyeticane]

If you all wanted to play as the "sorcerer mutant" you'd be fielding an army from one of the multiple Chaos factions available in the tabletop game. Don't worry, there are no "good guys" in the setting, so there's no shame in wanting minions who can stop time for a win, lol!

[@christianmoreno4664]

Would love to see you two react to Metaphor Refantazio all awakenings!

[@Mauther]

If Amazon can not see what they have with the Warhammer property after Space Marines 2 and then this short and Astartes...

[@joaomanoel3197]

Best episode 👍🏻👍🏻

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Yep 🤩

[@Vlorbmik]

Not sure if you guys heard but Henry Cavil’s warhammer show was green lit

[@RobouteGuilliman-M41]

TOOK YOU GUYS LONG ENOUGH! By the way, @Definitely Not Definitive, did you see anything funny about this whole thing?

[@TheValkian]

I love your guys reaction.

[@DefinitelyNotDefinitiveGames]

Thanks! 😊

[@mazimadu]

Commenting now before GW copyright strikes this video!

[@RZONE2000]

the emperor agrees

[@dominicstevens5851]

FoR tHe AlGoRiThM

[@maciekwilkosz6377]

Packman being darker than 40K is realy messed up! 😅

[@milan_3k619]

Happy New Year! 225th day of waiting for the Assassin's Creed III

[@Dem0n1c_S0ld1er]

I play the tabletop warhammer 40k

[@enzojesusaguileraaros6169]

I love this episode, this is a Master Piece ( warhammer 40k ), i cant wait to see the Warhammer Show by Henry Cavil

[@taz9715]

Warhammer was created in 1983 by the British.

[@Crazycoyote-we7ey]

now learn about Caiphus Cain hero of the emperium

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

While i love Titus, i really want to be the Dreadnought in the game that wants to fight Magnus (the demon primarch) and throw a statue at the Helldrake.

[@dagonofthedepths]

Honestly would like that too but I don't think Redemptor Dreadnoughts work for the long term. They kind of are known for killing their pilots.

[@kobalt7893]

Titus is just build diffrent

[@spurbooster1968]

For the Emperor!!!!🫡

[@jamesdeadlocked6664]

U guys need to react to Space Marine 2 updated trailers, u have no idea wat u missed out

[@Jaimethepanda]

I expected gore and body horror in the 40k episode, not so much the other one.

[@shrivelcamel5774]

CINEMA

[@remster5284]

Candle holders? Sounds like somethings a heretic would say...

[@lufasumafalu5069]

i dont get these 2 reactors , the male keep getting visibly order and the lady stay the same even after years.. is she a vampire ?

[@Sujad]

The Pacman ine was ridiculous. Someone had an idea for a story but couldnt get any funding or momentum for them so they put a barely cherent Pacman skin over it. The 90s cartoon did a far better job of it.

[@granddaddyotaku636]

Perhaps you might know but It's actually inspired by a new game coming out next year called Shadow Labyrinth, a new Pac-Man dark spinoff. There's a trailer out if you haven't checked it out yet 👍

[@Sujad]

@@granddaddyotaku636 There is literally no reason for it to be a spin off of Pacman. There is literally nothing about this that is Pacman besides some references (cherries) that are so thin they may as well be non-existent.

[@granddaddyotaku636]

@@Sujad Well respectfully, we could say that about any spin-off to any game or franchise. Sometimes these spinoffs are made to try something new. I love the classic Pac-Man, but I don't think there's anything inherently unreasonable about trying something different with the concept. If it works out, it could be a fun and unique alternative to the classic game.

[@Sujad]

@@granddaddyotaku636 I have to completely disagree. The short could have been named anything else and it would have been exactly the same. There is nothing in the episode linking it to Pacman barring the most superficial of nods. You could have had an easier time of linking it to Abe's Odyssey or Another World and it would have made more sense.

[@corryjamieson3909]

​@@SujadYou uh, doing well in life?

[@charlesmartel6108]

Looked like me and my wife. The guy hyper hyped and the wife hyper bored. xD