Secret Lives of Mormon Wives | Ex-Mormons Breakdown Episode 1 ft.

[@mel99520]

watching you two make me proud of our generation. You are breaking cycles! You are breaking cycles for your little girl. It’s amazing to see

[@KayLeeHoward-vc2ph]

Right these two are def not going to hell maby gods a women and these videos even saving or helping one person hopefully a ton like blessings to somebody out there and them

[@juliannesmommy6694]

I was watching Taylor on Nick Viall’s podcast and apparently when Taylor crossed the line from soft swinging to actual swinging, she was blackout drunk and the partner was…. At least sober enough to drive and pick her up. She doesn’t even remember crossing the line, but could tell something happened from the shape she was in, in the morning. She was clear that she doesn’t consider it SA… but…. I think… there is a possibility that the Mormon’s teachings on the women being..: almost responsible for men’s sexual purity (at least responsible for tempting them)(like talked about with Whitney). I appreciate her taking responsibility… but I was super surprised to hear that she was black out drunk when that line was crossed, yet she somehow is taking all the responsibility… it feels so backwards.

[@katwitanruna]

Break the silence. Break the cycle.

[@greg-op2jh]

Damn you are so QUICK! I thought I was first ❤

[@MiaWilson-y5i]

Love you two collaborating!! Freedom fighters shining your lights for others! 🫶🏽

[@renee8833]

Y’all are so right, there was 0 compassion in that room. It made me feel icky

[@emilylee8809]

I LOVE watching you two together!!! Haha you’re seriously the best!!!

[@Re.bake.a]

That moment where they are talking about the tinder scandal just screams mormon to me (as a nevermo but my inlaws are mormon) because there seems to be this constant tendency to downplay, dismiss, ignore or twist 'bad' or 'negative' emotional situations either by trying to ignore it until it goes away or 'find the silver lining' a.k.a do some mental gymnastics to make it sound positive instead of negative. It's so unhealthy the way they supress certain emotions or gloss over others' emotions

[@elisa-beary]

Can’t wait for you two to watch & review the rest of the episodes. I’m curious to hear shelise go over the background & noticable Mormon tropes & Amanda to discuss the similarities between the order. The order is def a far stricter cult but it’ll be interesting to see how many similarities. Idk if they’ll excommunicate them cuz I still think they may find them trying to bring in the youth & giving the illusion of it being a great religion & making it seem like we have it wrong, ppl are so dramatic a good thing for church numbers & PR. Especially if they don’t start speaking poorly about the church, if/when that happens I think they’ll excommunicate but it’ll be interesting to see!!

[@music54186]

Love this discussion! Keep covering the rest of the show with Shelise! ❤ big fan of you both!

[@laurenl720]

Looking forward to y’all’s review of episode two. ❤ both of your channels.

[@emptynesters2520]

Love your opinions on the new show! Looking forward to hearing more from you both Amanda & Shelise!!💞💞

[@ShirleyHodges-gr5wv]

Binged all the episodes today and came to KZbin for the reaction! Nice job. Looking forward to hearing more.

[@kimberlypainter5169]

Playing catch up! Thank you for tonight's lives!

[@greg-op2jh]

First comment! Thansk for an awesome video. Yall both looked beautiful! Sending all yall love

[@Gypsyfox78]

Loved hearing your thoughts on the show.

[@ianclark2665]

Wonderful channel, thank you, ladies.

[@SpyderQueen1988]

The Council of Love sounds like something out of 1984!

[@TinkersTales]

love this style of video, a good break from the survivor stories and a deep dive into all things Mormon as in the Mormon/ LDS church/lifestyles.

[@מאירבןלזר]

Thank you for the podcast

[@kathleengarrison1302]

Thank you for this podcast 🎉

[@AZensibleOption]

So, I’ve been really late to this show bc when my oldest, Kid#1, started telling me about it, I felt like I watched a shit ton of Mormon info on here already & didn’t need to take on any more. Then last night the 1st six videos recommended to me on KZbin were responses to the show, so I binged it so that I could watch my fav ex-mormons respond to the show.

[@bonniemeyer1301]

Great collab!

[@lynnbowenrealestate]

Love your collabs

[@gabrielmgarcia5912]

Amanda “ Some girls in my group were putting the tampons in the wrong hole” Lmao 😅😂

[@luluk2257]

Omg, I’ve missed you all and of course you @theamandareagrant Amanda ! I hope our little Culty family is doing great . I’m going to try to catch up I hope everyone is doing wonderful 💜😘

[@elisa-beary]

I’ll admit it I binged the show over the weekend && the whole time but was watching it I kept thinking I wish shelise & Mormon stories would do a review. Alas, the other channel I was hoping to hear from & bonus- I 🩷 Amanda Rae. I could write an entire paper on my thoughts…&& if I get the chance during my mental health counseling major I WILL! I found a way to write one of my final papers on the intersectionality between family vlogging, high demand religions, corrupt counselors & trauma & was quite proud.😂

[@VanessaChats]

I was horrified at how passe the lady was with her labiaplasty. When you REALLY delve into what is actually happening with it and the LACK of critical training of the professionals doing it, why would any woman want a most wonderful part of her body potentially deformed. It's basically "culturally acceptable" FGM.

[@SummerLove316]

Their is a better option that doesn’t involve surgery, their are more than one way but I would rather have my PRP used since it comes from the liquid gold in the blood & is very surprisingly powerful when done by a trained physician. The idea of someone cutting me apart down there sounds so painful & risking nerve damage. Just doesn’t seem like something I’d want to do!

[@rhiannonrose4841]

You guys should check out Stacy Lee Dark Hearts .she's a survivor! Former Morman in Utah from Iron City

[@Xxmilkshake202xX]

They said they edited it to look like that. It was hours after Whitney’s revelation. They were all sharing and catching up. I think producers initially thought Taylor would be the villain and Whitney would be more likable character. Whitney chose to make Taylor the scapegoat and act like she left the continental US because of Taylor. They all knew the rumors about Whitney’s husband

[@SherryStanhope]

My niece got really sick and had to have her implants removed!

[@marip0sa3833]

My two faves!!!! Love you beautiful women

[@renee8833]

Whitney’s husband cheating on her the WHOLE MARRIAGE. Is insanely wild. They have multiple kids together

[@lesliesheppard6112]

If you think they were cold when they interrogated Whitney wait until they talk to Jen about the birthday trip mishap!

[@kgizzles]

I love you both together!!

[@kabs1734]

Suspect the tattoo relaxation is due to the cheer amount of LDS in the pacific region.. tattoos are a cultural thing there (tattoo is derived from a Tahitian word) & if you’re recruiting new members there, your numbers will be low if tattoos are not allowed.

[@padfootdoggy]

I could be wrong because I was a bad tithing payer... I was told that they encouraged to pay if you WANTED to come back... but I have also heard some bishops would say he don't want money that isn't from faithful but then when you rejoin they make you back pay. That is what I heard along time ago. But I never truly know since I cared so little cause rarely had money to pay

[@nataliecrockett]

That is false. If a bishop says you have to back pay, there is something wrong with that bishop. There is nothing in the general handbook or church doctrine that’s says you must back pay to rejoin.

[@padfootdoggy]

@@nataliecrockett I said I could be wrong. I just heard both of those things by active members. I said I wasn't sure. One of those members used almost their WHOLE tax return to paying tithing cause they missed times here and there. Do you pay tithing?

[@nataliecrockett]

@@padfootdoggyi know you said you could be wrong. Sorry if my response made you feel on the defensive. I just was communicating that it is wrong what others may have claimed. When I hear others say they were told to do something I do know is completely false, I want to defend. There is the doctrine of the church, then there is the culture of the church. Often times it’s the culture of the church that causes problems for others and to leave the church because the culture can be pretty judgmental. I’ve experienced that judgement at times, but I stay in the church because I believe in Christ and his gospel. I follow his gospel, and anything people say that is contrary to those teachings, I ignore. Yes, I do pay tithing.

[@padfootdoggy]

@nataliecrockett ok. Glad you haven't had to do that. I know I was told to pay my tithing. So when others say something like what I heard I don't doubt it. It's ok glad we could talk it out and even if we don't change each other's minds it is all good. I just know what I heard. But like I said could be wrong. Things for being open about it and taking the time and talking. =)

[@nataliecrockett]

@@padfootdoggythat’s interesting someone used their whole tax return. That’s their choice. Many people have their own way of thinking of how to pay tithing. All the church has said is to pay 10% of their increase. There is no guideline of when to pay. I know people who save their money for tithing to pay in one lump some at the end of the year. I know people who pay based on their gross pay or based on net pay amount. It’s between you and God of how you will pay.

[@betsyroy6269]

Thanks for exposing polygamy. I'm sorry you had to endure that lifestyle.

[@elisa-beary]

They had a bunch of the girls on Viall Files podcast yesterday & I think it’s another thing worth doing commentary on because IMO & based on my knowledge of the churches rules I think they lied about some of their answers relating to the church’s teachings & doctrine to make it sound better than it actually is.

[@oliviaolsen6569]

Great vid

[@MarkLee-dc2sl]

So, I'm watching this show and I feel like the "Mormon" part is just an afterthought. Like the producers needed something to set it apart from shows like "The Real Housewives of ___" because that's exactly what it seems to be??? Am I wrong? On another note.... we need to set up a donation fund for glasses/contacts for Amanda.

[@loriherbst7043]

More more more!

[@Kevin-k9j1k]

0 yes more cleavage please

[@kdholden]

Shelise 🤷🤦 I never know how to spell your name and it keeps me from commenting 😑😕. BUT, I love you both SO much. Thank you for bringing me to Amanda's channel. I watched her show way back when and I love the colab.

[@Diana-sb4yl]

I'm glad my daughter didn't hook up with a Mormon guy.. They came across as a very nice group, she even got baptised, I went along to support her, but deep down I'm super happy coz I don't think I can beat to see her unhappy even if it's her choice to follow through, however she did she he got too possessive......

[@KayLeeHoward-vc2ph]

My Mormon neighbors haven’t said anything about my tattoos tank tops kinda when I wear a shirt that’s almost to my elbows they have said that’s there fav shirt lol

[@diversehorizons]

With this being a more open-minded channel, please help bring some clarity to the myth of Mormon views on people of color. Particularly Black people. 🌻🌻

[@LeaverWild]

Myth?

[@keashablew7728]

Amanda I’ll pitch in for your contacts. GO TO THE EYE DR. I said that in my mom voice 😁

[@AlbertSmith-ou5uu]

The Luke warm of Mormon church degrades the woman

[@bitteroldman2714]

Made it!

[@bakoyma]

"You want to be beautiful enough to attract a holy man so you can be the First Wife because that will solidify your place in Heaven" Is it not COMPLETELY obvious to everyone that men came up with this and it is absolute bullsh*t?? Seriously...?

[@Reaching4TheStars23]

I can’t find the link

[@angelarasmussen1800]

It is hypocritical' to nit want women objectified but to go to a chip and dales

[@thecalicocat6657]

That thing you’re talking about about the Scandinavian women getting trafficked into marriages in Utah I did a DNA test a couple of years ago and I found out that one of my ancestors had kids from Scandinavia and two of her daughters were sold into that so I have hundreds of cousins in Utah Because of that

[@Freedom-nu5kp]

Ruby Franke's sisters are swingers too!

[@Cult-Free_Ang]

I thought the church demolished the Provo temple because of the foundation….looks like it was because these girls filmed in front of it in ugly coats. Haha

[@keashablew7728]

I’m watching now. Did you see how dirty the inside of her new boyfriend Dakotas vehicle is. Yuck.

[@kimberlypainter5169]

I remember hearing that you cannot be addicted to porn, like proven through science. And I remembered thinking well how's thos going to go over in the LDS world?!

[@makari8884]

95% of the "porn addiction" people are absolutely wrong. You can't get a chemical addiction to porn but you can have a addictive realtionship to anything. Exercise addiction is a thing too.

[@keashablew7728]

Untrue. You can be addicted to anything that changes the chemistry of your brain. Sugar, exercise, sex, drugs.

[@keashablew7728]

@@makari8884anything that releases chemicals in your brain. Sex, gambling, exercise. You’re absolutely correct. But it’s still a chemical reaction. It just doesn’t need a chemical catalyst.

[@saschamayer4050]

​@@keashablew7728 Only if you have a predisposition that makes you vulnerable to it. But then it could be anything: shopping, gaming, internet, smoking, eating... Anything.

[@KayLeeHoward-vc2ph]

Oscars going home with her lol Oscar is being a sinner lol

[@Jade-3000]

9:52 they are the same thing. . .? From a psychology standpoint, not a religious one.

[@kathiaserrano7740]

Nah. You’re not going to kick me out AND expect tithing from me! Absolutely not 🙅🏻‍♀️

[@mienafriggstad3360]

💔

[@AZensibleOption]

*Oops…hit send to fast* The 1st message I send to Kid#1 to let them know I was finally watching it was “Whitney meant Grindr, not Tinder, right??” I get back from them “Bwahahahahaha 😂 Mom!!! Supposedly that’s exactly what she meant according to social media.” I was joking, Kid#1 was not.

[@AZensibleOption]

*Ugh need to add…* Kid#1 is queer, was on Grindr at the time, and is part of that scene. It’s obviously a rumor, but I found the fact of it being my 1st thought & Kid#1 already hearing about it super funny (it was the frosted tips that were shaved off when they returned to Utah that gave me that impression).

[@padfootdoggy]

Again this is a rumor and we were talking about gossip culture and feel bad about saying this but I guess reddit has proof he was on grinder not just tinder...

[@saschamayer4050]

Reddit? Is that a respectable source now?

[@padfootdoggy]

@@saschamayer4050 I never said it was... I'm just telling me so they can do their own research.

[@KayLeeHoward-vc2ph]

I want anybody to know and my Mormon friends there always welcome in my church I got a loud stupid mouth been thru a lot if u came to me need a friend I got u

[@kirielbranson4843]

I don't think there are levels of heaven for Christians. Levels of Hell, yeah, if you go by Dante's Inferno. But heaven? I don't recall any levels.

[@DeweyKnowaBitfromaByte]

Shelise, don’t you think a large part of mormon women’s naivety is more about how they are socialized to think about sex, as compared to men? Maybe more than inborn gender characteristics?

[@orionspero560]

Until you said her name I thought that was your cousin.

[@seppyq3672]

That boob thing is funny. I grew up in UT county and never really knew about it. I had small ones compared to most of my family, and I loved it. 😂

[@redbarnhomestead7384]

Pretty sure Connor was talking to MEN not women.

[@redbarnhomestead7384]

They said he was questioning is sexuality and that led to por*. It was MEN.

[@kathrynwilliams3310]

excommunicated people are not required to tithe

[@betsyroy6269]

I have to disagree. In my opinion porn is disgusting and harmful.

[@keashablew7728]

All addiction is harmful. I can watch porn every now and then. It’s addiction that’s harmful.

[@saschamayer4050]

- to the actors? Yes. - to underaged viewers? Probably. Maybe not, if everything they see is discussed about, put into perspective and met with a good dose of reality. - to everyone else? No. P.S.: I'm only talking about voluntary viewers, of course.