Going Deeper with Taylor Frankie Paul - Secret Lives of Mormon Wives | The Viall Files w/ Nick Viall

[@shellypostel7954]

Taylor is so self-aware; it blows my mind how anyone could not like her. She is self-deprecating, honest, fully aware of her choices and takes responsibility for the aftermath, and her story never changes. My heat hurts for her at the way everyone turned their back on her. She is such a survivor and a strong person.

[@cashwhistle2074]

Domestic abuser

[@Ali-tc6kv]

She hit a child with a chair..?

[@eyleentorresdiaz]

@@Ali-tc6kvthe report said the child was in the same room, not that she hit her kid.

[@Ali-tc6kv]

@@eyleentorresdiaz “evidence also suggest that ms. Paul’s minor child was injured” is what it says in the original report. the court dismissed it with prejudice but she plead guilty to aggressive assault sooo I’m sure plenty of people see that as reason enough to not like her

[@texasgermancowgirl]

@@Ali-tc6kvif you listened and saw all of the events afterwards: she’s been in therapy and has is growing instead of repeating that incident

[@alexisg9964]

the way natalie is so gentle and comforting and nick is just like “hurry up & give us the tea”

[@ma.angelinaa]

Seriously 😔

[@karas7963]

She better be talking to her man.

[@prinnymay]

How much has she progressed interviewing!! Im just binge watching after missing tons of episodes and im floored by how great shes doing. She seems so comfortable and also comforting to Taylor, so getting more out of her.

[@aliciadeit13]

Taylor’s story is absolutely heartbreaking. It’s so admirable that she’s able to take accountability and not blame others while simultaneously feeling so much pain. So much respect for her.

[@danat3961]

And so honest about everything!

[@sarahd4264]

I agree! Shes the only person who’s taken any accountability since the whole thing happened! That’s why they all made her the villain.

[@judithmunoz3449]

100% she’s real and she tells her story I’m in tears. I love Taylor

[@kassandrafigueroa3609]

@@sarahd4264bbb😊😊😊😊😊b😊bb😊bb😊bnbbnbnbnn😮 5:47 nn😊nnnnnnnnnn 5:47 😅 5:47 5I'm :47 5:47 😊😅n😅 😊so. M n n. N

[@kassandrafigueroa3609]

@@sarahd4264

[@L.Be_31]

If she was blacked out drunk, she was not able to consent. This changes the whole story, she’s been made a scape goat.

[@Natalia-vn4bq]

This is definitely sexual assault, she wouldn’t be messed up down there otherwise. No one in these type of circles would support her because of the other stuff which is so sad!

[@irisbd3300]

So sad when she said she was messed up down there… like what hell was he doing to her

[@casey5683]

@@Natalia-vn4bqRIGHT?! Like what did that man do to her?!

[@debbieentine6212]

I’m confused about the different parties involved but it certainly sounds like she was assaulted and she shouldn’t feel shame over that

[@fishball12398]

This!!!!! I hate that she feels like she asked for that because there’s no way she could have coherently consented if she was that drunk. I hope she realizes that and stops putting so much blame on herself

[@blondebytheriver]

The fact that Taylor is still covering for the other two couples involved says a lot about her character.

[@taylahjane8441]

She doesn’t want to get sued

[@TheASMRSquare]

@@taylahjane8441you can’t sue people for their own story, so no, not why

[@crazylicious85]

They probably have something on her.

[@Oak23722]

Although we all know it’s Miranda and chase so it’s not really a secret

[@aliceneal8666]

@@TheASMRSquareit would be considered defamation. You can’t say something that can’t be proven. Or she 100% could be sued

[@chantellearquiett7364]

Anyone who can watch this, this raw emotion from a human, and still comment and judge her is just mind blowing to me. She had me crying watching this. She is so genuine and she fully takes responsibility for her actions but Y’ALL she’s HUMAN. She has traumas, she’s healing too. I’m proud of her.

[@neacienation]

I'm not a mormon so i'm not judging. I do feel bad for them.Because I think these women are innocent.Although they've done things I would never do l o l There's no clue what's coming their way right now.The ish storm... It's brewing and it's going to rip their lives apart.😮😅

[@Maetaaaaaa]

I love your comment, I feel the exact same way. I remember randomly coming across posts about her when everything blew up and it was all so negative, and I just have a lot of respect for the fact that she takes accountability and made it through her ‘mistakes’ with the entire world just judging and bashing her. We’re all human and I have a lot of empathy for women that are open about their journeys 🫶🏼🙏🏽

[@AndreaSada]

I know I feel for her. I do feel so bad for her baby. I hope she doesn't have flashbacks to this night for her mom handcuffed, throwing things, drunk etc. Hopefully it doesn't cause big trauma down the line for her children but you can tell she is such an honest person that just wants to be better. I hope she continues to grow and be able to show up for her babies so she can be her best self for them.

[@thedcp]

She's an influencer literally everything about her and her come up is about being fake.. stop falling for this shit

[@Angelmddx]

I know when she started crying talking about losing everyone it made me tear up 😢. Obviously what she did wasn’t okay but they all as a group blurred the lines in their relationships and then she lost not only her husband but all her friends in one day. Then what she went through publicly. It’s a lot.

[@haileyjoan]

Big props to Natalie for comforting Taylor during the interview. It’s rare to see hosts actually do that and not just care about getting the tea. So refreshing to see tbh

[@jencollier99]

I absolutely love Taylor. That fact is she has always held herself accountable for everything she has done and her story has never changed about anything so I definitely believe her over anyone else.

[@brendahenciak9198]

That’s a really valid point!! I agree that her story has always been consistent. Liars trip up on their stories!!!

[@Tweettwish]

Agree 1000%

[@arbalc]

She seems to diminish some of the most serious issues but I get she’s likable and people want to root for her. I hope everything works out for her and her family.

[@JessicaKnox-jw2ge]

Natalie is the glue of this podcast. She has such compassion for guests, which in turn lets them be more vulnerable.

[@umokay5516]

Yeah no, all the females who used to work there were suddenly gone as soon as she got there. Insecurity vibes.

[@stefaniejensen2474]

It is crazy how open she is about all of this. It’s refreshing and I believe her.

[@Phbalancedshorty]

We’re just gonna ignore that she was clearly SAd by Brandon rowley who was sober enough to drive to where she was and caused her to be “pretty messed up down there” when she woke up??? I think it’s heartbreaking that she was again taken advantage of by a man she trusted and cared for and it’s very hard to come to terms with that. These women are just treated like trash and abused repeatedly and told it’s love- no wonder she’s sobbing every single episode. I have a complicated history with SA where I feel like I put myself in certain situations where I share some blame- but I was STILL taken advantage of- and it sounds like she was too. 💕

[@RealityTvLover]

Sounds like she was SA . It’s very sad that this was just brushed under the rug. Not on this interview but in the group .

[@aliclark_33]

I feel really bad for her… I know that she’s “responsible” for her own actions and I appreciate that she’s owning that and doing what she can to make amends… but fuuuuuuq - the level of guilt shame that she carries is massive… just heartbreaking. There’s no doubt in my mind that it’s caused by the church and its teachings. Have the men involved in this been drug through the mud like she has…? Have they owned up to anything…? As a momma, I just wanna hug her.

[@shelby477]

​@@aliclark_33Me too, it hurts my mom heart. It looks like she's so conditioned to be responsible for anything bad, that she's crossing the line beyond just taking personal responsibility, but also excusing the male behavior that should not be excused. I wish so badly she could see how inexcusable Dakota's behavior was in Las Vegas.

[@aliclark_33]

@@shelby477 totally agree! Mormon guilt is no joke!

[@talianaccarato9015]

What part of the podcast is this at?

[@patriciaadler3546]

Didn't expect to bawl my eyes out, but here I am! Thank you Natalie for hugging her when she broke down 😭

[@AgingStudent]

Truly. I feel so sad for how she blames herself for what clearly was an assault

[@Kotadota]

As a former Mormon I know how much emotional trauma and baggage a lot of us enter adulthood with. She is a beautifully flawed human, as are all of us. I admire her ability to remain so honest and vulnerable after experiencing so many cycles of online hate and backlash every time she shares her truth or parts of her story. I wish her nothing but the best as she continues on her path to healing and happiness.❤

[@valerienelson3296]

You said it perfectly. I see a pyramid of things that went wrong with Mormom teachings at the top

[@valerienelson3296]

Your Not a bad person, you were a lost person that is getting unlost.

[@Nikki30288]

But what about her children she abused ?

[@L7L1L5]

This made me like her. She's so real, raw, and relatable. I hope she's able to let go of the guilt and continue to grow and thrive.

[@marisacarreira8875]

It’s so hard to keep up without names. However you can see how she is genuinely telling the truth because her story has never changed and she is holding everyone’s identity private. although the situation sucks you can tell she is a good person who got wrapped up in a bad situation.

[@BethFrazerx]

miranda and chase mcwhorter are the other swingers - miranda spoke about it on a podcast (the podcast she's referring to in this) and also miranda is the one in the bathtub kissing cabin pictures with taylor!

[@KaleenaSayers-x9z]

​@BethFrazerx so chase is the one that told her he had feelings for or is he the one that slept with her?

[@AAAToturn17]

@@KaleenaSayers-x9z The one that had feelings. Brayden is the one who slept with her.

[@audbottoms1]

@@KaleenaSayers-x9zthe one who had feelings for her. Brayden is the one she slept with and she had feelings for him. Brayden is (was) married to McKenna, Chase is (was) married to Miranda (Taylor’s best friend).

[@BethFrazerx]

@@KaleenaSayers-x9z he's the one that had feelings for her and she didn't feel the same back. the affair was with brayden rowley!

[@deenagirl101]

She was definitely SA. Messed up down there and black out drunk can’t remember anything? Very sad.

[@elizabethgoncalves9182]

Not to mention, he wife “sent” him to pick her up, which means he was sober enough to drive 🥺 I think it’ll take years of therapy to come to terms with the fact she was SA’d. For now, she still believes she “wanted” it and that it was her fault. So sad!

[@JAllen-ye7bj]

Yea he 200perxebt took advantage of her state

[@SpicyLimon4723]

So gross! And sad, she knows on a deep level because she did get emotional talking about it, it’s a process sometimes.

[@monikleite9531]

Yes, she was and she knows she was but she probably blame herself 😭 and feel that if she say people will blame her as well. I can only imagine how she feels 😢

[@MelaBellaRose]

This makes me so genuinely sad for her. 😢

[@andreabinleymurray687]

The level of accountability and work it is apparent Taylor has done is apparent. I hope she continues to heal, grow and forgive herself

[@maegandyer9001]

This. She's very self aware. The next step is just really believing in herself that she's worth happiness and that she can do it. Also fully forgiving herself for her part. In a way she is lucky like she said. Learning this at such a young age is a gift. As long as she can let go of the past.

[@genesishernandez9660]

This made me like her even more because she was being so honest about what happened, super accountable, while still protecting others

[@JenniferBianchi-d4m]

her reaction like jittery talking about not remembering having sex and saying she woke up and described a “mess down there” i’ve never heard someone describe consensual sex like that. I’ve never heard someone say they didn’t remember having sex. I hope she lets herself feel whatever that experience was and works through it in therapy.

[@a.claessens7680]

What part does she talk about this?

[@capric0rpse]

Yeah… it’s sad. She may have felt she liked him or whatever.. but unless she was AWAKE and said YEA then no. That’s SA

[@a-train1584]

Yes, I hope she comes to terms and says what it really was out loud for her healing and not pushing it down as just some consensual drunk sex. She had too much emotion and reaction for just regular consensual sex. It was SA and she has to be strong enough to face that so she can let go of it and move forward for herself. I’m curious to know what her husband thought while he was cleaning her up and if he said it was SA.

[@laceygilliam244]

The amount of humility and transparency Taylor shares is beautiful. If anyone can judge someone’s mistakes when theyre being that vulnerable and honest, they suck

[@tiffanysbeautyhouse755]

It's crazy because people just sit and judge like we all don't make mistakes. These women are all vulnerable in a way.. to get married and have kids so young I mean theirs gonna be mistakes. She's trying!

[@sofiaciaramella6080]

The way her body and voice is explaining the sexual encounter, she deep down knows it is indeed sexual assault.

[@sydneymorgan7951]

I live in Utah so I feel like this was an even bigger deal here, but I genuinely feel for her so much after this episode. I’m so glad I got to hear her side of this. If you’re reading this Taylor, give yourself grace. You are absolutely not a BAD person. You did some bad things, like all of us have, but you are holding yourself accountable, you’re growing and you’re so strong. I’m proud of you. 💜

[@theeshadesofgreen]

“i don’t know if you want details…” “we want details.” 😂

[@CarmenHaygood]

Whew, Taylor girl you had me crying tears with you. You are forgiven honey! It’s time to forgive yourself and move forward. You would never want to watch your daughter or sons walk in constant shame for a mistake they make. Don’t walk in shame yourself. You’ve grown. You have taken accountability. You paid the consequences. You still deserve peace and happiness. It’s ok to live a happy life now and move forward. I wish I could hug you!

[@ambiebambie8198]

My first thought reading your comment was what part could’ve possibly make you cry…. Literally 3 mins later I am in full blown tears 😂

[@AnotherSocial]

Her protecting people shows more about accountability and her heart.

[@sofiaTurrini-g3f]

im literally crying with her and feeling her pain. SHE IS SO STRONG!!! She is such an amazing mother to literally try the hardest to be okay

[@actuallyalley]

Finding out the truth of her SA makes so much sense. Even her arrest. Not that her DV is excused but its so common from someone who is not dealing with their trauma. I hope she continues to share her truth.

[@EmilieSpeck]

Used to be annoyed by her on Tik Tok, this and the show on Hulu has opened my eyes, hunny!!! Love her!

[@krystal8467]

She is the biggest example of why I believe people can change.. she could easily be saying "look we all did it, it's easy to blame me but my husband put me in a situation this was bound to happen" but that's not at all the role she is taking she's showing so much humility. She's taking so much accountability and being so humble about her mistakes. I actually really like her and I wish her nothing but the best❤❤ people deserve grace and space to change and I'll stand by that.

[@amlowrey328]

Even after hearing Whitney is talking bad about her Taylor is still being respectful and taking responsibility for any little part she might have had. Taylor seems very mature and well adjusted right now.

[@sampensa925]

I look forward to the day she really values herself for who she is and stops taking blame for all the things that happen around her. Like she said “they are adults, I didn’t force anyone to do anything they didn’t want to” and I want her to truly feel that inside one day! I really like her more now than i did prior to the show bc of her vulnerability and honesty! I’m rooting for you Taylor ❤

[@a-train1584]

Yes, the adults involved should be taking the heat too. They participated willingly and shouldn’t be putting it all on her shoulders.

[@Kim-vt8yr]

Same I love her honesty and self awareness but I don’t think she will feel better about herself until she surrounds herself with better people for a start she needs Dakota out of her life as he clearly judges her a lot! The mom Tok girls are toxic too not all of them but clearly some of them she needs much nicer people in her life!

[@celinabarrera7819]

The fact this man slept with this drunk women is rape. That’s why she is so emotional. Wtf he needs to be in jail

[@a-train1584]

Exactly, complete SA. Her emotion and husband having to take care of her after, screams SA. That other man should be in jail for what he did.

[@lonestarlatina1955]

"Not good enough to be chosen" true feelings. Her ex-husband never put her first, but instead, his fantasies. She's never had a significant someone choose her.

[@Notyou22]

They can never make me hate Taylor 🩷

[@debleigh1249]

I do not think this is about hating Taylor. It’s about learning to recognize that choices have consequences. While I’m quite grossed out by some of the choices that she made… I do really appreciate that she owns her mistakes and is trying to do and make a better life for herself and her children.

[@Babi-d4w]

@@debleigh1249”they can never make me hate (insert name)” is just a TikTok trendy comment to leave right now.

[@amberh550]

Same!

[@paigefogarty2530]

Get better idols.

[@DimestoreCountry]

This is a great interview. Her honesty and openness is so inspiring. I don’t know how anyone can say anything negative about her after this. She clearly has paid the price for her mistakes. Paid in full

[@GemUnicornn]

She also takes accountability for her actions which is refreshing, she has had a lot of bad things happen to her and I hope she can heal now

[@TheOzzyLover]

Taylor is a truth teller and we all need those people in our lives!!! She is authentic and good hearted ❤

[@Coolgirlbentley]

We love Taylor! Authenticity and honesty are raw in this world. She’s so brave and the fact she’s still covering up the names is very admirable. I’m proud of her. Endless support girl 🫶🏼 fellow utah mama here

[@NikkiJo29]

Honestly because of the show and this interview my respect and understanding for Taylor has for sure changed. I feel for her pain and respect her accountability and wish her nothing but happiness!!!

[@GaychaoticSagittarius]

I’m so sorry that happened to you Taylor. Nothing is worse than not knowing what happened and having the internet validate for you that that was SA. I hope you heal and get help to get through that.

[@valbehar.]

The fact that all of this was a blessing in disguise for her. At first I only knew her as problematic because of tiktok , after all of this , I respect her and got to see a Taylor I never thought she would be. She is an accountability queen and you can feel how genuine she is. It's heartbreaking to hear what she's been through and I can only pray she keeps healing ❤

[@lifeinphoenix]

She’s courageous and we are all flawed. She’s paid a price for her behavior and will continue to. This interview was extremely vulnerable. I liked watching her pick up her life, downsize into a normal home and stable place for her kids. Be the best Taylor and you are an emotional, human… Sometimes we really fail to handle things in the right manner …. ❤❤❤❤

[@laurenKaye-w3r]

I literally love Taylor. The highs and the lows. So real, so relatable as a young YOUNG mother and a woman trying to find her way! 🥰

[@Honeytreasures]

I’ve never seen anything but strength and perseverance from Taylor. She’s a strong bad ass babe and yeah there were plenty of questionable decisions but how many of us would ever admit to and own up to them. Taylor, you are a strong woman and look up to you for your honesty and strength

[@SavannahSedai]

She comes across as a genuinely likable person. She's upfront and takes accountability. I hope she knows she has A LOT of women in her corner cheering her on. Taylor can live such a peaceful life from now on and show others that it's possible. ❤

[@harmoonize-zj7lh]

People that are not honest with themselves about who they are can not stand people that are so authentically true to who they are and that is the only reason why anyone would dislike Taylor. It is so refreshing to see someone that can own their wrong doing and continue to try to be a better person. So easy to relate to her and she seems the same in every setting she is in. Great interview!

[@summerwerner4144]

I watched her interview with Avery Woods and I feel like she was so ready to tell her story and open up but Avery was so abrasive and not empathetic or kind. This was the chance she needed to open up and tell her story.

[@Andy-cp4zi]

I love Taylor! She’s so open and explains everything so well. I wish her so much happiness

[@mzm2644]

I'd have to say this was my favourite podcast of yours. Thanks to Taylor for just being herself and so honest. I really enjoyed listening

[@lindseyhavniear4548]

I really enjoy Taylor, the amount of accountability and growth in episode 2 to current has blown me away.

[@deef6576]

Commend the fact that Taylor owned absolutely everything, it’s so rare nowadays.

[@Maria89_]

Sounds like she got SA and I hope she deals and gets help for that one day

[@jacqueline-11]

Most definitely was SA’d I hope she comes to the realization of what happened and stops punishing herself for all those involved.

[@AgingStudent]

​@@jacqueline-11I felt so sad for her. It definitely influenced the drinking during divorce

[@Salt.of.the.hearth]

I think she knows that she was but doesn’t want to admit it since that’s a whole other cross to bare. Like it doesn’t matter if you would’ve wanted to sleep with the person. If you’re too drunk to remember it, it’s SA

[@Rachel-su3ir]

She was 100% sa'd. Messed up down there?? Should be her sign

[@MelaBellaRose]

This! And the fact that he was sober enough to drive to pick her up.. meanwhile she was blackout? I can’t see how this wasn’t SA.

[@HRFI4444]

Taylor i pray you continue to heal and find a community who truly loves you and supports you. I pray you find the courage to press charges to who SA you, it doesnt matter if you we're drunk, or had previously feelings for him, or even engaged in anything prior to that night. If you couldn't and didn't consent, he should have NEVER touched you.

[@VidaJones]

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it until the end of time. I love Taylor and her vulnerability, honesty and bravery. Team Taylor, always!!! 💗💗

[@ilovetumblr99]

i love her so much. it makes me so sad she beats herself up over this so much still. She’s grown so much & i’ll ALWAYS support her. 😢

[@jacquelinebaltazar554]

There’s some raw and evident trauma in her voice. I appreciate the openness ❤

[@umokay5516]

I fully, 100% believe it’s not possible to be polyamorous with a partner you truly love. These are the behaviors of people who are in situationships or marriages that are based on companionship, religious pressure to marry, or some other factor that serves a purpose. People who marry for love can’t watch their partner be intimate with someone else. Period. I’ll never change my mind.

[@UniqueTraumaObsessed]

As I call it… a “shituation”

[@cartergomez5390]

Yes, have contemplated polyamory at one point but didn’t even move forward with anything because I didn’t understand how it all works. I will be watching this show on max.

[@mirb2093]

These are only some examples. There are also many examples of people in open relationships with someone they love. Sometimes they love multiple people. Just because something isn’t for *you* doesn’t mean it doesn’t/can’t exist at *all*. Look up compersion.

[@UniqueTraumaObsessed]

@@mirb2093 it’s only my opinion that when you’re in love with someone you can’t cheat on them because if you do it hurts you internally as much as it would hurt your significant other for being unfaithful. If you’ve never felt true love and what it is like to grieve with a broken heart, most likely you won’t understand this. Being a friend with a partner and loving them as a friend would allow you to be able to have an open relationship because in reality you haven’t matured and even found love for yourself so it’s easier to think you’re in love when in reality you only love that person to the extent you do not wish any ill will on them and love spending time with them but you can still break away and be this way with other people as well. That’s just from my experience and how I feel that I was while dating until I fell in love and learned what true love actually meant. True love fosters a connection that goes beyond the superficial. It's a bond that often involves understanding each other's core values, beliefs, and life goals. This connection creates a sense of companionship, where both partners feel they're on the same team, working towards common dreams. infatuation: Duration - Infatuation is often a short-lived, intense emotion. It can feel overwhelming and all-consuming but typically fades over time. Focus - The focus of infatuation is often more on the self and how the other person makes you feel. It’s about the pleasure, excitement, and gratification the relationship brings you. Idealization - Infatuation often involves placing the other person on a pedestal, ignoring their flaws, and creating an idealized image of them. This can lead to unrealistic expectations. Emotional Roller Coaster - Infatuation can bring intense highs but also significant lows. The mood of the relationship can change dramatically and unpredictably. Physical Attraction - Infatuation often centers around physical attraction and desire. While these elements can be present in true love, they are typically more pronounced and prioritized in infatuation. Characteristics of true love: Duration - True love grows over time, deepening and becoming more profound. It’s a lasting connection that continues to thrive as you grow together. Focus - The focus of true love extends beyond self-gratification. It’s about mutual growth, support, respect, and understanding. Both partners are invested in each other’s happiness and well-being. Acceptance - True love means accepting each other’s imperfections and loving the whole person, flaws and all. It’s a more grounded and realistic view of each other. Stability - True love brings stability and consistency to the relationship. While there may be ups and downs, they are typically navigated with mutual respect and communication, avoiding extreme emotional swings. Emotional and Intellectual Connection - True love involves a deep emotional and intellectual connection that goes beyond physical attraction. It’s about common values, goals, and a genuine understanding of each other.

[@UniqueTraumaObsessed]

@@mirb2093 I said in my experience and in my opinion.

[@briannahatcher9422]

I'm honestly impressed at her accountability and her attitude moving forward. It's not easy.

[@kelseyla3120]

This broke my heart. 3 years sober from alcoholism and I can relate so much even though my life is very different. The pain, hurt, anger, shame. Especially with children it makes all those emotions a billion times worse. Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing.

[@sammelisabeth7]

the self awareness to say "I can't be the friend you need me to be right now, my kids and relationship are my priority and I'll be your friend but I can't put in the extra effort at this time" is mind blowing. She's such a wonderful girl who owns her stuff and the amount of respect I have for her is infinite. She's the true definition of change and taking accountability. I would love to have half the amount of the strength she has. What a beautiful human.

[@victoriamcgee812]

Taylor has grown so much through everything. I think no matter what there are people who aren’t going to like her just because. I think Whitney needs to focus on what’s going on in her house vs judging what goes on in Taylor’s.

[@Benji_1982]

48:31 the way ppl can overlook the lies being fed to them in the beginning of a relationship and then wonder why later more lies will surface is beyond me. PEOPLE LISTEN if at the beginning of your relationship you’re receiving lies from a partner JUST KNOW THAT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN THROUGHOUT your relationship

[@aprilsalinas4972]

Honestly Taylor is way more complex and has so muucchhh depth to her that I sadly assumed she didn’t have. I love her so much and to be able to accept her wrongs and grow from it, shows so much about her character. I hope she can one day forgive herself and heal, she deserves it🥺🩷🩷

[@shannonstoddard7724]

This is SA. What he did was not okay. It is SA.

[@TamraBain-m2m]

Agreed. Sexual assault comes in many forms & isn’t always the typical scene you see in movies This sounds like date rape

[@jhansen88]

Who else thinks the friend that caught feelings for Taylor is Chase and Miranda *was* the best friend?

[@BethFrazerx]

100%. it's pretty much been confirmed bc miranda and taylor were the ones in the bathtub kissing pics in the cabin that she spoke about!

[@ariannaneal3296]

Yes

[@ariannaneal3296]

And the other couple that taylor didn’t know that well was Camille Munday

[@presleyerin2156]

@@ariannaneal3296she said the only one from mom tok was her best friend which is miranda so Camille wasn't involved in the swinging

[@Mecalli11]

So basically all of the husbands caught feelings for Taylor. And now those 2 guys have a their own podcast. Hmmm

[@cc-wn5el]

I don't know of this person but I just have to say, to be so honest and vulnerable on an open platform, knowing how many people will judge you, call you a bad mom, etc. Shows a lot of strength. She knows what she did, has come to terms with it, is ready to now speak out, and tell her story and move on.

[@Happy.mamaaa]

Taylor your vulnerability and honesty are so refreshing! Great listen guys ❤

[@onlymisslisa]

she’s strong for being open about all of this & taking accountability

[@LyndseyPhotoandFilm]

I just love her. She takes accountability of everything she's ever done. I hope she forgives herself.

[@Musihousehold1]

Taylor, bad people don’t worry if they’re a good person!! the shame will keep you stuck babe; it’s understandable but you have taken responsibility it’s your job to let go and grow!! rooting for you

[@gabriellafelix8594]

Ugh I can’t help but cry when she cries. I think she is so brave to come out and tell her side of the story, even if it makes her look bad. She is so real. I love you Taylor!!

[@honeybunnybunny1958]

Honestly the part where she gets emotional about “that night” she doesn’t remember well is really sad. 🙁! She was drunk….and to be emotional over it like that means she is not okay about what happened

[@yolotravelsolo]

Growing up in the Mormon Church /Culture can do so much lasting damage. That shame based upbringing, I’ve seen it really screw up so many of my friends, acquaintances and myself and own marriage. As a former Mormon, I enjoyed this podcast and am looking forward to the show. So many things need to change in Mormon culture. I do think it’s something people don’t fully understand unless they’ve been raised that way and gone through healing from it.

[@zoethezozodog123]

ex mormon here i highly doubt things are gonna change hope i’m wrong. this isn’t an attack on taylor moreso the culture of the church and the way the members are i don’t see her being accepted by them or the other moms from mom tok. i think they formed their own group bc none of them fit in. that’s not exactly on them. members should be seen as human rather then shamed for their mistakes however mocking their religion and god isn’t doing these women any good. i wouldn’t be surprised if the people in the church end up driving these women away.

[@chocltelvr]

I’ll be honest here, Mormon “culture” gives off this whole thing. It’s not a good thing and many are still asleep. But I guess if you’ve grown up in it, you know no different. What I don’t like about this is it appears none of the men are really making changes and being a man stepping up to admit their wrong doing. Typical.

[@12day1]

🙌💯

[@yolotravelsolo]

@@zoethezozodog123 agreed. The Mormon culture in general is very unaccepting, judgemental about EVERYTHING and cliched. The amount of anxiety, shame and guilt you are raised enshrouded in is ridiculously unhealthy. I couldn’t raise my kids in that. Definitely feel like kids are better surrounded by a mom who makes a few mistakes but they see her take accountability, learn, grow, and just be real, open and honest about her imperfections. Cause we’re all imperfect, the difference is a lot of people pretend, put on this fake perfect facade and sit there judging others.

[@raw8565]

With watching the show u can see her growth from the first episode of her getting arrested was her wake up call and everything happens for a reason and she needed that to wake up and be better for her kids and we can all see the growth! Just her taking accountability and not blaming anyone but herself is major growth! That’s very hard to do so good for her👏🏻👏🏻

[@domino7845]

Great interview. She’s very vulnerable and honest.

[@katieboynton07]

Taylor is very brave and made me cry during the arrest segment in this. The way she takes accountability is honestly incredibly inspiring. Yes she made huge mistakes, but it’s really impressive how she admits to this and doesn’t lie about it.

[@Batgirl-yu7se]

I love Taylor she's just a person trying to be healthy and happy just like the rest of us.

[@darlingnatty]

omg Nick and Nat, WELL DONE 👏👏👏 Taylor’s honesty is BLOWING MY MIND, what an incredible guest. Can’t wait for her to come back

[@lonestarlatina1955]

She needed someone (her husband) to stand for her! Breaks my heart. She was taught to follow his lead, and he took her down a path of hurt. 😢

[@tiffanysbeautyhouse755]

THIS LITERALLY THIS! that man is horrible. All of these women are taught to be submissive and do what their men say... she was just doing what he was wanting her to and she got hurt.

[@GemUnicornn]

Yeah sleeping with all your friends was never ever a good idea. Some partners do swing but no one ever involves friendships I think she needs his guidance on that since women are put in a bubble in Mormonism, also women are more likely to feel emotions during sex so it was just the worst idea without a proper sit down and discussion

[@jeanetteoxo]

I just really hope Taylor is happy and knows things will get better and the last is the past and it doesn’t define her. It’s clear she’s been working so hard to move forward.

[@Ryanh1010]

Ive never seen the show but you can tell she is being genuine in the interview, the story seems pretty wild but its great to hear she takes accountability for what happened without throwing others under the bus. Seems like she is on the right path of bouncing back and seems like a good person

[@fishfooood]

It just came out today on Hulu. The whole season 1.

[@Ryanh1010]

@@fishfooood ah ok i thought it had been around forever cuz people in comments seem to know who is who lol

[@fishfooood]

@@Ryanh1010 yeah I don't have tiktok

[@Ryanh1010]

@@fishfooood same, but i added to my list cuz it sounds intense lol

[@MiyaWashington-q9i]

Love this girl!! It takes a lot to be this honest not only with yourself, but with others too

[@KH-rr8mg]

Her authenticity is amazing and I love it.

[@paytonhope6992]

The way I got a RSV commercial that said “is rsv dangerous for my baby” for this was wilddd

[@kellyfinley4419]

Why?? lol

[@victoriastargle2929]

Whitney will never live that down😂

[@skyew2205]

Proud to say I’ve always supported Taylor. She’s made mistakes, but I have seen few people own up to/take accountability for their mistakes in the way she has. So much respect for her 🫶🏼

[@alyssalauren24]

I am so proud of Taylor. You can really see her growth throughout the season and with her sitting down on this podcast. You can see how much she regrets what she has done wrong and acknowledges that she could have been better.

[@krystal941]

My heart hurts for her. Her and her story may sound “crazy” but it’s actually really relatable. I can totally understand how she got into this situation as a woman and a mom. Also, the drinking …every horrible decision I ever made was when I was drinking. Also easy to be taken advantage of and then blamed.

[@chandaciaccio6669]

This makes me love her so much. She’s so raw and real. I can’t wait for the show

[@LaurenKing-q6e]

Taylor- You set an amazing example of change. You always own your mistakes and try to learn from them. I want to be more like that. You’re never embarrassed to admit you were wrong and then you grow and move on.

[@amandam9356]

This was such an amazing episode. I cried with her. She’s a great example of someone taking responsibility. Forgive yourself girl. It’s time to move forward.

[@tthewizard7667]

Taylor is so self aware and emotionally intelligent. She’s very real.

[@fraychen]

Secret Lived of Mormon Wives made me a Taylor lover. I just want to give her a massive hug and tell her she is going to be ok and that she is loved. Her heart is good and you can tell. She’s just a little confused like the rest of us. But her heart is so so good ❤️

[@mappjc101]

I really do love her after this interview 😭 and usually I don’t care for people who become famous in the way she did but she is go genuine, something I hope to always be no matter what I go thru

[@samanthaguerra6943]

She definitely got SA omg I feel sorry for her since she thinks that night was okay bc they all have been drinking , and she doesnt want to ruin friendships

[@roxanamadrid3965]

This was such a good podcast! I for sure look at Taylor different in a good way now. It takes a lot to own up to your mistakes & she has done it so gracefully ❤

[@awh0924]

Such a good episode! I'll be real, I didn't like Taylor at all at first in the show but she really grew on me. She's complicated and messy sometimes but also very real and self aware. I really enjoyed this conversation.

[@mzm2644]

She's very articulate telling her story. Regardless of what happened her authenticity and doown to earth nature makes me like her. Taylor ❤

[@emmylane8147]

I felt every word Taylor said. So, self-aware and remorseful.

[@adris7067]

I met her, actually the night she got arrested. She's a literal sweetheart. I did not however like her boyfriend. He's very controlling, I guess maybe she needed that but I don't think they're a healthy couple.

[@theblackschaos]

Really?! Why is he controlling? She’s so vulnerable and sweet, I really have a whole new level of respect for her after this.

[@Phbalancedshorty]

She does not need that.

[@abigaildewire8253]

Natalie killed it this episode. The comment section is usually ruthless to her but she was asking great questions, poised, and overall a vibe