Secret method to cancel the TB mission in Red Dead Redemption 2

[@gurpinderwarar4625]

We all know there's no way to avoid Arthur from TB, but still click on these types of videos in hope

[@ctkelley27]

Yep but can’t move on the game sad thing 😢

[@urbansk8r231]

​@@ctkelley27 me too

[@Foxfire_forty-nine]

Terrible writing

[@somethingorother3405]

@@gurpinderwarar4625 I Think he meant terrible writing on rockstar's part as there's no way to avoid contracting TB

[@KC.45]

​​@@somethingorother3405 But it's part of the narrative. I don't think Devin was referring to that cuz it makes him sound dumb tbh.

[@dontplayahatecuh]

Actual way to not get TB: Stay in Chapter 2 and enjoy it

[@dhonbarger]

I've got almost 50% game completion and still in chapter 2 on this last play through.

[@kennyebo1699]

I know right I've done this several times and doing it right now 😂

[@Морскаявода-т2м]

In Chapter 2 2/3 game mechanics (many deadeye abilities, horse fencer and sniper rifles) is disabled. Many weapons are not available. Arthur in the epilogue - that's we neeed!

[@BigPolskiMan]

​@@dhonbarger On 37.9% myself 🎉

[@dontplayahatecuh]

@@Морскаявода-т2м Lol then find glitches to get the weapons you can't get yet like the Rolling Block rifle or Calloways Revolver. You can find a Semi auto shotgun at a elderly womens house, you can get the Lancaster repeater at the Rhodes gunshop if you encounter the kidnapped kid which you should. You can get so many guns early. I'm not worried about the deadeye ability I found my way around that for challenges that need it, the horse fence doesn't really matter unless you're in Chapter 3 and as I said look up glitches for the guns you can't get yet such as once again the Rolling Block Rifle which is honestly the best sniper and really the only sniper rifle you need.

[@mikerusty3875]

I can accept Arthur dying, I just don’t want him so weak from TB that he can’t give Micah the ass whooping that full strength Arthur can do

[@sickby85]

What I hate even more is that I can't blow Micah's frigging skull off, it's Dutch that's killing him.

[@nickelpickel3924]

Yeah, the first time I played. I played the bad guy route. Because, I love playing as the bad guy. Get to the end, and Micah stabs Arthur in the chest. I've never played that game that way again.

[@Saul.111]

@@sickby85 listen, se in the epilogue with john where dutch kills micah and the body will be there.

[@clarketownsend2145]

Yeah honestly that's what pissed off as put RDR2 the most Arthur contracts TB from Downes in chapter 2 and gets so bad in chapters 3-6 but Downes has had TB for years and is no where near as bad off as Arthur gets after having it less than a year. Rockstar pulled a dick move there. He can have TB, a slight cough at times, but bro he shouldn't that weak that fast. The PS5 version needs to make that an optional mission and have a story path where Arthur lives, one where he dies bc of the TB, and one where he dies bc of Micah killing him but no TB involved. I think that would be the best version of this game. Also support for non-gang related jobs like Bounty Hunter, Deputy, Sheriff, Stagecoach driver, and stuff similar to GTA V that allows you to make money legally would be great. Also having Arthur have a ranch where he raises horses would be great.

[@nickelpickel3924]

@@clarketownsend2145 I'm assuming TB is like every illness and affects everyone differently.

[@mikey5396]

I love that little "Yep" we get from Arthur right before he leaps to his doom.

[@realQuestion]

who knew you could avoid getting TB just by jumping off a cliff? Take that, medical science!

[@TheWolfalpino]

we all knew! problem is, in this case, reincarnation... no way of avoiding your destiny ser!

[@wearechangecthartford]

Camp Funds: $190978.64 Dutch: We need money!

[@aydenlokey3641]

I once gave the camp 2 million dollars, I'm starting to wonder how much it costs to go to Tahiti.

[@idk22895]

@@aydenlokey3641 Must be more than buying the entire united states

[@redo7460]

​@@aydenlokey3641 It costs just one more score... One more big score...

[@TheWolfalpino]

😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣 Sadly, this is the limit of videogames with storyline... I wish they learn how to make storyline really change based on action (including also something like you said)

[@impaugjuldivmax]

this really shows how stupid and empty AI and their scripts in this game are

[@TheTrueDan]

Honestly, I will get all the satchels, gang cosmetic upgrades, talismans and trinkets, hunt all the available legendary animals, get the panther trail saddle, explore the world and find secret items (for example the pig face mask), do most, if not all the challenges (and will glitch it so I get the legend of the east outfit) and then I will do all the other missions until no other mission pops up except the Downes one, at that point Is where I will finally accept Arthur's fate and let him get TB.

[@rottyonamac]

Nah, I let Micah rot in jail.

[@gowrdrfan]

This is exactly what i did in my 2nd playtrough

[@TheTrueDan]

@@gowrdrfan I respect that

[@leopard_123_atl]

you got it? quite a nice idea for a second playtrough

[@katiesharpe1624]

Straus sweating over a few $$$ when you're camp funds are that high 😅

[@arnoldjanikowski7122]

i'm glad the pinkertons beat him to death at the end we don't get see it but charles tells john in prologue. its ridiculous all of the money sharking debts are for such little amounts.

[@hankscorpion]

I had like 40k by this time...WHY COULDN'T I JUST GO and live forever as arthur??

[@randallc23]

​@@hankscorpion how 40k

[@hankscorpion]

@@randallc23 lots of ways...loot respawns in most places, it's been awhile, but I had a route of places I would regularly go to between missions and collecting...it adds up.

[@coby9282]

@@randallc23 Had about the same when I decided to stay in chapter 2. Took a bit of grinding, but yeah^^ In Ambarino is the longest Tunnel in the game. When you enter and stop the train in there you can rob it and get no bounty. You can shoot the passengers after you robbed them, they usually hide stuff and you can loot them again, making nearly double the profit. Plus blowing safes, you get average 400-500$ per robbery (after selling looted stuff to fence), sometimes more, sometimes less. I usually set my camp near the tracks and just wait for trains coming by. It happens faster then you would think, especially when you move around the area, do stuff like hunting and now and then go near the tracks, this often triggers/spawns incoming trains. And if not just sleep. That way I rob like 3-4 trains in an hour and get several thousand dollars in short time. That plus finding and selling all gold bars, now and then rob and sell a wagon to the fence in between, you will get 40k after a while and more :D

[@latinlover671]

Poor arthur he ended up in a gang full of bums that dont do nothing but wait around for him to provide 🤣

[@ProfGoodlife]

The game puts me back into the exact situation I’m constantly trying to escape by playing that game.

[@grilledlettuce1845]

@@ProfGoodlife just swallow a bullet. Painless and easy

[@yvetterodriguez2550]

I agree! That's what I keep saying everytime I get back to camp. I call them lazy bums lol. He's already doing so much going out there, hunting and collecting debts to provide for his camp that they can't even do chores?? Arthur already has alot on his plate, I'm pretty sure these ladies sitting around can handle a bucket of water and some hay for the horses.

[@Baamm66]

I agree, since Micah is one of the newer members of the gang, stuff like that should be put on the noobs.

[@johnmacias1996]

Lol, some aren’t that lazy, if you stay away from the camp long enough then one will eventually ride out to find you so you can come back to camp. Might be running low on something. =P

[@TheRealDebussyFarts]

It’s crazy how much plot armor TB has in this game.

[@Bosscross03]

My thoughts exactly! Whoever allowed this crap in this game is one sick sadistic human being!

[@gianmarcoraggi4594]

imagine an alternative ending where you don't have to save micha and collect the debt. in the end you go to thaiti with dutch :))

[@yvetterodriguez2550]

I just started playing thia game and the secong i met Micah, I freaking hated him. Then recently I had to go save him from jail. Do you how many times I died fighting off the people and then pay up a big bounty for me? I was so pissed. I had like $300 and paid off almost $200 for my bounty. If I could, I'd like to take a ride with Micah and "talk" to him. Come back and tell the group we encountered some bad folks on the road and didn't have time to "save" him lol.

[@lovemyherd6241]

There’s a part in Rhodes where I destroy Micah repeatedly. I always have to start the mission over…totally worth it. 😂

[@barnabyjones5161]

Dutch never goes to tahiti.

[@TheWolfalpino]

With Mary, fuck Dutch, he's an idiot.

[@midnightzombie2012]

​@@barnabyjones5161you missed the point of the comment

[@Terrribletom]

Downes coughs on Authur when he breaks up the fight with Tommy in Valentine and the ominous music plays. I just noticed that today. Hosea is coughing all the time also.

[@fairplayer916]

man i wish there was a legit way to not get fucking TB

[@Qaw3n]

It's just how the story is supposed to roll. I understand that people don't want Arthur dying, but you don't get to live a bad life and have good things happen to you.

[@fairplayer916]

@@Qaw3n it's not even the dying part that gets me. It's the guaranteed slow death with your body falling apart around you that irritates me so much. Adleast in rdr1, John was health right to the end. That said, I still think his death was bullshit too

[@macree01]

@@Qaw3n Plenty of people have done horrible things and go onto live great fulfilling lives. Life isn’t a fucking fairy tale. Horrible things happen and go unpunished all the time. That’s just reality.

[@ilikepiga9714]

@@macree01 it's a quote from the game. don't take it so serious 😂

[@Qaw3n]

@@ilikepiga9714 At least someone gets it haha

[@JM-re1zn]

I'm going to explain politely to Straus that I dont want TB. He'll understand.

[@anthonyspitery6332]

Arthur will subtely cough at the end of the house robbery mission with Javier and presumably in other side mission cutscenes, therefore breaking the immersion that he is healthy. He is scripted to die and there is no changing fate

[@MediaWML]

Indeed he does. It is actually Thomas Downes who breaks up the fight that Arthur gets into in Valentine in one of the earlier missions. So even before the debt collection mission, Arthur has already potentially been exposed. I'm not sure he could catch TB that way, but it's curious that it's already part of the story.

[@andrewlowden322]

You can unlock the ledger by going after any of the 3 white missions when you 1st talk w Strauss. I always unlock t before the Downes mission is even offered. You need it unlocked to up your camp, satchel and fast travel

[@toon.jane.]

what white missions?

[@andrewlowden322]

@@toon.jane. When you 1st talk to Strauss he give you 3 options, they show up on the map as white blurbs with a $ sign. One is Chick Matthews at Guthrie Farm just east of the Heartland Oil Fields 2nd is also there at Emerald Station w Lilly Millet 3rd is Wrobel who is just across to the Dakota River West of camp. DO this 1st as it is teh most brutal one, close to camp and you can come back and open up the ledger and buying items for camp

[@biggrizzlybear6774]

WORKS AS OF 12/8/2024. I would like to thank you for posting and sharing this video! Saved my life.

[@vincebarber6933]

I was able to avoid Downes all the way to chapter 6. Then the first time I went to Saint Denis, when I got near the doctor it triggered the cut scene in which Arthur gets sick and gets led to the doctor; no way of avoiding TB all the way through, dang it.

[@BigPolskiMan]

After a certain point doesn't it no longer allow you progress through the game without heading to Downes?

[@vincebarber6933]

@@BigPolskiMan I never went to Downes, and I thought I was gonna avoiding getting sick, but as soon as I hit Saint Denis in Chapter 6, the cut scene started in which Arthur goes to the doctor; he gets it no matter what.

[@Persianking00]

So i guess rockstar will give arthur TB anyways.

[@keraxp599]

@@vincebarber6933 Because this is a glitch to skip or cancel the mission... that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[@bodhi6769]

Downes coughs on you after the fight with the big guy in the salon in the beginning of the game.

[@Raven-qi2gb]

Thanks , 3rd play through and just wanted a chapter two save with Micah in jail and Thomas downs away . I varied things by rolling block bullet to TB Downes from horseback , failed mission twice then option to cancel and enjoy staying in chapter 2.

[@sangun123]

lol in my 2nd play through, before you ever talk to strauss in horse shoe overlook, you can go to the downes ranch but it'll jsut be occupied by a random rancher NPC, but it's the easiest way to get cow/pig hides, not sure if anyone else found that but a bull always respawns as well as 2-3 perfect pigs

[@PapagenoX09]

I've often wondered about all the people that Arthur hung out with after getting infected. He must have passed the disease on to others, especially to Mary Linton.

[@Spoofaged]

It doesn't affect everyone, but those who did get it, it was a death sentence back then. Doc Holiday's wife lived to around 90 even tho he died of TB and already had it before he met her. His best friend Wyatt Earp didn't catch it either

[@Nny_V]

if i'm not mistaken chance of random infection from TB was around 12% that chance only goes up if your constantly around the person, so basically you have to live with someone who has it to really get it. arthur's just unlucky.

[@GuretoSefirosu]

Actually, I had the letter and did that mission before I had the Downes mission. In fact everything EXCEPT that Downes mission is done in my current playthrough. I have never had the "trap" you mention happen in any of my saves. I normally do two of the Straus missions, then the letter mission, then the last Straus mission, and then he tells me about Downes, but I already helped Mary, so...

[@ghh2727]

It never happened to me either until last week on this playthrough

[@andrewlowden322]

I never get it with Marys letter but Im *always* forced to do it at some point in CH2. Next playthrough I will do the ride away trick so I can postpone it at least

[@NotDecided420]

Happened tp me tge other day after downloading the game again after 3 years.

[@tachina5655]

Yeah same I did Mary's mission before and have never been trapped

[@GuretoSefirosu]

@@Sketchy_Outlaw Sadly, you have to. Besides, he isn't a rat at this point, just an arrogant pile of crap.

[@NotDecided420]

I re-downloaded this game a few days ago. I was 40% in and hadn't done a single mission in chapter 2. I'd been out for months, had my Arabian. Had a bunch of trinkets and pelts. But I went back to camp and Strauss just started talking to me. Then when I rode off, I died. You can't escape your destiny.

[@Spoofaged]

Crazy how we all know the heartache that awaits yet we come back anyway.

[@mattyoung7318]

I usually just throw dynamite at Downes. The cancel option appears after a few attempts.

[@danish010]

does this still works??

[@Styphoryte]

Hmmmmmmmmph

[@jlotus100]

Camp funds: $190,000+ Dutch: WE NEED MORE MONEY!

[@pavangudi986]

I left the camp as soon as I got a letter from Mary......never went back....it's my 8th playthrough and it's been four real time months i haven't been to camp....i have had Javier....bill.....Charles..come look for me but.....i am good....

[@bodhi6769]

It's too late anyway downes coughed on you in the salon fight in the beginning of the game

[@pavangudi986]

@@bodhi6769 oh...damn....not again......

[@yj78]

hahahahahaha😁

[@rebeccam9]

I’m on my second play through and have stayed on chapter 2 for months now and have left the Thomas D debt collecting. The other day , I decided to do a yellow mission which was the Bill and Karen Valentine bank one and just as we were about to leave , Strauss came up to me and said Thomas Is dead and can I collect debt from the wife. After the bank mission was over it sent me to his house where I collected the debt. I seem to have somehow missed the cough in face encounter. Arthur hasn’t started coughing yet

[@TheReaper569]

Didnt happen

[@kistatra3645]

Does Arthur cough now?

[@rebeccam9]

@@kistatra3645 I’m still on chapter 4. Think it’s chapter 6 he starts coughing

[@coolninjadudeohyeah6833]

@@rebeccam9what about now?

[@ceyhunozkan9919]

i avoided downes misison and complete all other story missions, take the legend of the east satchel. now i was searching that "?" sign on karen which pops up little before but now i cant find it. that "?" on karen never occurs. so we are in horseshoe overlook how can i proceed without doing downes misison, story is kinda stuck. is it real that valentine bank job can be happen wtihout doing downes ?

[@sayitaintsotv299]

Never realized that’s how he caught it..This game blows my mind every day

[@Finn_In_a_Bin]

same I thought he got it in sanidines.

[@PetePlayGames1992]

I realized it after doing a second playthrough and doing research on how TB is spread

[@clintmcdowell7259]

Often wondered if putting up your mask would help but im guessing he probably takes it down in the cut scene. Keep in mind ive not tried this myself but I'm sure someone has.

[@sayitaintsotv299]

@@clintmcdowell7259 nope people have tried it and it doesn’t work unfortunately lol

[@6dogs729]

You can do this anyway it's called don't show up at camp bc worst thing they do then is send bill javier or Charles to check in on you which after you can prompt them to run along back to camp and they never sent them after me i get all the free Healthy aurther play i want ps who want to hang in camp anyhow? Boring

[@thegundamcowboy1]

This was so helpful. Thank you so much. I’ve dusted off RDR for a new play through on PS5 because of your helpful videos.

[@gwoody4003]

There really isn't any negative effect of the TB til after you do the diagnosis mission. The game gives you so many tonics and bottles of booze and food, I have never been in a scenario where I was killed because I couldn't recharge any cores. Arthur really is a bullet sponge. I almost always die cus I was trying something crazy or stupid out of curiosity. 99% its falling off a cliff 😂. Not til way late in the game does Arthur's health become a handicap. I assume you still get TB and collapse in San Denis, even if you glitch your way around the Downes mission, considering its a major plot point and multiple later missions depend on it. 😄 I just wish we could get to the west side of the map sooner.

[@ryanhiggins8869]

And his horse celebrates with him in the end. Best ending ever.

[@MGG87]

As much as we all want to avoid Arthur dying, it can't happen. It's part of the story, it can't be undone. Even if we follow the doctor's orders and go back up in the mountains pretty much, it doesn't work. Still, click bait or not, this is interesting. However, because Downes is the ONLY Strauss mission that is a main mission, it can't be avoided.

[@RegenerativeLivingArt]

I have found that it makes no difference to the game whether you do this mission or not you can get Arthur to produce tuberculosis symptoms in chapter 2 before even meeting Thomas down by pursuing the objectives of the game, such as hunting progress, explorer progress treasure maps found objects Talsman’s legendary animals. If you do enough of these, you will start showing tuberculosis symptoms as Arthur before you even meet Thomas Downs, or collect anything ever for Strauss.

[@ClubLeyo]

Some really helpful advice for delaying contamination with TB and being able to continue now with we loved once and true.

[@PFGFrankly]

it be better if before you do the final missions in chapter 2 you have to go to him to continuer the story, make chapter 2 safe then chapter 3 being the start of his health downfall

[@tucker4pf]

thank you so much sir, thought i would be forced to endure that horrible experience all over again

[@BennettIsAmazing]

What I don't get by this video is that you've clearly done the Survivalist challenges - but I don't know how to get to the jack mission to start Survivalist without having already done this? I get the letter pretty early on in Chapter 2!

[@cherylannburke-wx3ko]

You can just not do the missons for Strauss, until the successful bank robbery with Bill in chapter 3, immediately after Arthur gets on his horse and the yellow guide line appears, leading to Ms Downes packing up with her son.

[@ChandravijayAgrawal]

This stupid game have literally no choice, you have to do what dutch or micah tell you and collect dept, where is my free choice, i literally can't choose a single mission or deny any of these quests

[@roberthuffmann8204]

Arthur still developed tb though doesn’t he?

[@derdork3233]

Arthur getting TB is an absolute point in time.

[@SaqibAli-qq9ch]

I really Appreciate that at least you try to save arther

[@PawełTuszyński-y4u]

I did it exactly as you did in this video, and there is still a mission with Thomas Downes

[@markusalbert517]

It would be nice to at least explore blackwater with arthur before he dies

[@MrMeeSeeKs1977]

You're obviously using mods because at 2:53 it says your camp fund is $190978.65, there's no way you would have that amount of money, there's no way of cancelling it, arthur dies at the end, there's no secret way to keep him alive after chapter 6

[@jerryseller1076]

Wish they'd make a complete remake of this game. Where you can play multiple players who have their own story. You can play any character at any point and time during your game play. And if you cannot avoid the TB mission, you can use any player you want to go collect, except for Dutch. That way Arthur has a chance to live, whole someone else dies

[@kot_kotovich_xd]

yeah, then everyone will choose Micah for this job!

[@MrZomg17]

The thing that happened to me is i avoided doing any Struass Missions and avoided talking to Downes...i did all other missions until all i had was Bill's Bank Robbery mission and a couple money collection missions markers had dissapeared...i went to do Bill's bank robber mission and during Bill's Bank Robbery Mission cut scene Strauss walks up and says Strauss had died and tells Arthur to go collect the debt from his wife..even still not having encountered Thomas if you go see his wife Arthur still gets T B

[@Del_S]

Strauss walked up.... and said he had died? So he was a ghost?

[@MrZomg17]

@@Del_S oh..no i did not mean Straus had died i meant to say Thomas had died before i could go make the cut scene happen where i intimidate Thomas

[@Del_S]

@@MrZomg17 Oh, right, that's less spooky. But still, seems like your game decided to go quite glitchy

[@MrZomg17]

@@Del_S do you have twitter? I will show you a picture of something i found on my Red Dead map both on story mode and online

[@TheCeroc]

You can sniper Thomas Down dead and rob his House. In the early PS4 version i ended that mission with many dead Thomas Downs in the cutscene wearing his hut.

[@HEKVT]

Rockstar being classic Rockstar, you have this awesome open world but the story mode is in a more forced direction than a railroad track.

[@jcking2108]

You are truly the Micah of KZbin .

[@yvetterodriguez2550]

I recently did this mission cuz i just started playing this game except I didn't get spat on by Downes. I punched him a few times and then I hit Dismiss while he was still on the ground. His family came out begging for his life so I spared him. Then I went straight to Strauss back at camp. I'm wondering: since I didn't kill him, can I go back and visit him so I can kill him and then rob him cuz he still owes money to Strauss? I'm hoping not to get too close to him now that I know Downes has TB. Maybe take out his entire family as well so that there aren't any witnesses. I'll cover my face too lol. PS. I'll also add that i turned down Mary, that old love from his past who wrote him a letter. I figure I have many missions to complete, the last thing I want for Arthur is more problems that aren't his lol.

[@ErrantJourney]

It does not matter if you ever come in contact with Thomas Downes or not. Regardless of how you play the game, there is only one certainty. Arthur will die at the end of Chapter 6. There is no way to avoid this if you intend to complete the game past the epilogue. You can play the game for many countless hours as Arthur and do everything possible to prolong the inevitable, but if you avoid the ending of chapter 6, then you miss out on the rest of story as John, and the world that is opened up for you as a player in the New Austin side of the map. Or you can just be adamant about it and see if you can explore the entire map as Arthur, collect all the legendary pelts from all regions, catch all the legendary fish, pick all the necessary herbs and much more. This will increase your longevity as Arthur by far if you are able to pull it all off. Even if you can, you will never be able to complete the game until Arthur is long gone.

[@mattbaratta2748]

Wow this actually worked, thanks!

[@bobalazsgaming]

indeed. still does to this day.

[@yago6816]

feb,5th 2024 and it still works !

[@manishrajpurohit4354]

After reading letter, if you kill downes and then it will not give the option to cancel the mission, next you do is again retry and kill downes, then this time you will have option to cancel the mission.

[@ExplorerDS6789]

Just like By the Book in GTA V. They know you don't want to do the mission, but they force you anyway

[@AK_GV]

Why that mission is cool

[@ExplorerDS6789]

@@AK_GV You think that's cool??

[@AK_GV]

@@ExplorerDS6789 well the overall mission is nice. Also the part where Michael and Dave are talking about what really happened in North Yankton is interesting

[@onthespotwiththeammo]

In my annoyance against Thomas Downes killing Arthur, whenever I need a bull, goat or pig hide, I go to Downes Ranch - cap his son, dog and farm animals. Arthur is avenged.

[@angerycamel2]

I seem to have some how avoided it by doing another mission for strause. Basically the TD mission and two other shake down missions were aviable and I chose to do one of the other two after the sequence with Mary's letter and talking to strauss.

[@HalfLife83]

I stayed on Chap 2 forever did all the missions and all the treasures hunts and nobody bothered me. Nobody forced me to get there, did free Michea, did visit Mary and Robbed the train with John

[@chrisharvey6845]

Great video thanks a lot I have been trying to stay away from that mission for a long time, but I thought my time was up after reading Marys letter, Great save my friend, thank you again. Regards Chris.

[@illostr8]

He actually heys it after the saloon figjt with that big guy he first meets Thomas Downes

[@Goibniu001]

R* did not need to force this mission! All it does is irritate the player since forcing anything takes "the moment" away. The completion timing should've always been just as "optional" as any other mission. Simply don't allow any further missions or chapters until it is completed.🤷‍♂ Let the player play as they wish!

[@gary9816]

How did u get that outfit in Chapter two? Doesn't it require the horse fence unlocked?

[@BigPolskiMan]

Reverend Swanson glitch. Do everything you can (Bandit 6, herbalist 9 and everything else up to 10 apart from gambler which should be to 9) then do the mission. Complete the mission as usual but make sure you complete gambler 10 during the mission. After completing it, you should get your outfit.

[@ajbrazov]

I don't remember, is hoseas' mission at shamus where you unlock the fence, then already available? Because without the fence, no gold bar chasing would make sense...

[@smoke_some_w33d]

that mission unlocks the emerald ranch fence, the other fences are available at the start of chapter 2

[@ajbrazov]

@JasonLee-ow3ur oh yes? Thank you didn't knew

[@miguelonishi575]

thank you brother, you saved my Chapter 2 life

[@scottt5400]

Put off the "TB" Strauss mission in chapter two till I had EVERY possible challenge, every satchel, and every possible side mission complete. I healthy Arthur is a happy Arthur.

[@calebdrake3544]

Rockstar did Arthur dirty

[@ToriL97]

When I played the first time I got to the point of robbing the Valentine Bank and had to see Thomas Downes right after.

[@scotwilson4169]

Legend, now I can enjoy chapter 2

[@redgreen82]

There's an order to the missions where you're never forced to go to the Downes Ranch. I've done it. Of course I don't remember the order of the missions, but I've ended up with that as the penultimate ch 2 mission.

[@YERIK_78]

Thanks buddy, but how did you get the Eastern Legend outfit in Chapter 2?

[@aydenlokey3641]

What if you shoot Downes before triggering the mission?

[@ramspencer5492]

Yeah. Currently I'm chapter 2. That forced mission things was so annoying ....Cancelled Thomas Downs... Did the first Mary Mission.... Finished the Oil mission and have level 2 dead eye.... Micah is in jail... I'm avoiding the fisher of men mission because I don't want the gang to start abandoning the horseshoe lookout camp. So I can't do legendary fishing right now.... But that's okay I've got a lot left to do before I'll even be tempted to move on this play through. There's a couple ways to do it.... But auto save does have to be on

[@hrdman2luv]

The purpose of this video was to get rid of the letter that's annoyingly trying to block you from sleeping or getting anything off the table. As far as staying in chapter 2 goes, I realize it get's boring, after you've completed as many challenges and missions available. But that's better than anything after chapter two.

[@kieranbritton1564]

Yes but you still end up getting TB because it is part of the story so I take it once you finish chapter 2 you will probably have TB does it make any sense to skip that mission

[@ceyhunozkan9919]

first, thank you very much for the video, i watched before and i was suspicipus about it but now im playing 2nd time story mode, now i managed it like in the video. that was so cool. i avoided downes misison and complete all other story missions, take the legend of the east satchel. now i was searching that "?" sign on karen which pops up little before but now i cant find it. that "?" on karen never occurs. so we are in horseshoe overlook how can i proceed without doing downes misison, story is kinda stuck. is it real that valentine bank job can happen wtihout doing downes ?

[@kaycred3361]

I always thought it as wierd seeing this videos saying this and dint know how because they put me on the oath at the end of a mission and i cant go anywhere too far or fail. Whats the point of this if youll still die. I have a save file for each chapter and a few. Backup chapters

[@jakesanchez3415]

Another option is to keep on editing your saves till the last chapter (before the sick suppose to get worse) and max out the core of your Arthur's Stats (Health, Energy, Dead Eye).

[@brhodes2287]

Hosea has TB, so how do you know Arthur doesn't already have it before meeting Mr. Downes?

[@plkc90]

How did you unlock and complete the survivalist challenge without doing the Thomas Downes mission? To unlock the survivalist challenge, you need to do Jack's Fisher of Men but to do that, you need to complete the Thomas Downes mission first. So what's happening?

[@jamesvan2201]

Eventually he gets tb though. Proving once again that he didn't get tb from Thomas Downes, but instead, got it from hosea matthews.

[@TrillWorld09]

This mission had me looking up how do you get tb from other people and you can't get it from saliva. Its an airborne disease.

[@sadaj227]

Broo?... Idk what u saying in video but after i receive the letter from marry, im not forced to do debt quest, i just free and nobody happent and i just do marry quest and other with no problem

[@Donnahodgins]

What if we kill Downs in Valentine when he stops the fight with Tommy?

[@rvaoverioka]

That "ee yup" followed by "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" when he falls ended me 🤣🤣🤣

[@michaeldecaro460]

I always get trapped but i wonder if something is different in version 1.0?

[@realQuestion]

Works, tested on PS5 February 22nd, 2024

[@MrPetepeeters101]

Absolutely loved playing this game

[@JubeiKibagamiFez]

So, can Money Lending missions not be started at all and just avoid debt collecting altogether? Then the downes mission shouldn't even appear. I don't use fast travel or any of the other things from the ledger, so why even do these missions?

[@Fishpasta4]

Alternatively you could just not talk to Strauss in the first place and not rescue Micah from jail. Leaving you with healthy Arthur, living his best life at Horseshoe Overlook, with everyone still full of hope and joy, without Micah putting people down all the time, without the Pinkertons showing up, with Sean, Kieran, Lenny, Hosea, Molly & Mrs Grimshaw all alive & well, without Arthur living in the perpetual friendzone and best of all without having to indulge Strauss.

[@coyotegaming4027]

must've spent a lot of time doing challenges before doing the first story mission in chapter 2 to have the LOTE outfit this early!

[@greeneyebear]

July 9, 2024 this still works! you’re a life saver!! (literally!) (for now) 😅

[@stflaw]

It's strange seeing Arthur doing the Downes mission in the LOTW outfit.

[@mindsofeuropa2955]

You can see that Arthur coughs after cancelling the mission. He still gets TB.

[@Zyklus360]

Rockstar has patched so you can't auto save untila later chapter. Also, even if you didn't visit Downes, Arther still catches TB mysteriously.... you can't change the storyline.

[@Nyruami]

But you still can´t advance to chapter 3, so what´s it good for? Your problems with TB don´t start before chapter 4

[@Obamavrat671names]

That teabaggin horse in the end was good.

[@BSKFYT]

you seriously saved my life

[@arthurbates5566]

What platform are you playing on the computer? Because PlayStation platform will not allow a horse to jump off a cliff. This does not work.

[@alexandrutodea2792]

In one playthrough I could manage to keep the Thomas Downes mission until chapter 3, but in my last playthrough, I was forced to do it before tge end of chapter 2

[@Reverse_aep]

How?

[@alexandrutodea2792]

@@Reverse_aep i guess it is an order of the missions. In my last playthrough, where I was forced to do the Downes mission in chapter 2, I used this method, and the last remaining tasks were to break Micah out of jail and this debt. I simply couldn’t leave it for chapter 3. About the other one, where I made it in chapter 3, I don’t remember the exact order, I just think you should do the Micah mission a little earlier, and do the fishing with Jack and the train robbery with John after.

[@Reverse_aep]

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