Secret Of Mana Review! (SNES) The Game Collection

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@SeafoamSmiles
@SeafoamSmiles 9 жыл бұрын
Man. This is the most accurate review of SoM I have seen on KZbin. Touched on all the things I liked, and the vast majority of things I took issue with, when I played it.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks +SeafoamSmiles! :)
@inquisitorchristopher8527
@inquisitorchristopher8527 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperDerek RPGs ~ What emulator are you using, and how are you getting that nice "CRT TV" overlay?
@Chris-tk9hy
@Chris-tk9hy 7 жыл бұрын
SuperDerek RPGs: This is a game that needs no introduction *gives introduction*
@HilariousSuperiority
@HilariousSuperiority 7 жыл бұрын
I like how calm and collected you are presenting this, no unnecessary yelling or screaming and the video is very informative. Great job!
@VJ4rawr2
@VJ4rawr2 5 жыл бұрын
You deserve way more subs and views. Your production values are amazing. Great job!
@laowhy86
@laowhy86 8 жыл бұрын
hugely accurate. loved it when i first played in 1996. However, upon playing recently, many of it's flaws shown through. Thank you for this accurate review!
@StewNWT
@StewNWT 3 жыл бұрын
boo lies it's still amazing
@acidwizard6528
@acidwizard6528 2 жыл бұрын
The hit detection is very poor, and the stun lock mechanics detract from the game as well. Otherwise it's still fun, especially multiplayer.
@tollban
@tollban 6 жыл бұрын
The opening theme here can make you cry... One of the finest console OST ever. Pretty colours, great ambience and music, adventure & combat, beautiful towns...
@16bitbrit
@16bitbrit 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, Derek. You raise some great, and we'll balanced posts. Your approach of not letting nostalgia cloud your judgement is certainly appreciated. Excellent work, sir.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks +16bitbrit! I definitely try! :)
@seanquertinmont2760
@seanquertinmont2760 7 жыл бұрын
SuperDerek RPGs do you reveiw newer games or just old ones
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 7 жыл бұрын
Just reviewed Persona 5 a week ago or so, so I'm working on breaking into the newer titles too. :)
@theflyingninja1
@theflyingninja1 9 жыл бұрын
This makes me so nostalgic. Your reviews always take me right back to when I was a kid.
@dgosma
@dgosma 8 жыл бұрын
From one Derek to another, I think your reviews are fantastic. I recently found your channel and I must say the quality of your reviews is very high. The effort you put into them shows. Keep up the good work!
@TheSlapshotLC
@TheSlapshotLC 6 жыл бұрын
ahhhh the dulcet tones of SuperDerek lull me.
@howieb4217
@howieb4217 4 жыл бұрын
Comfortably the best soundtrack in a video game.
@andrewwebsterphillips
@andrewwebsterphillips 9 жыл бұрын
Also forgot to add. The cow lick is looking super epic on this video Derek.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Phillips Haha! Hair's getting a little long, couldn't find time to get a haircut but the show must go on! :)
@kaguth
@kaguth 8 жыл бұрын
Nice review. This was one of my favourites back the hizzay. Yes, it's far from being perfect, but it gets major nostalgia points with me.
@silcrowprima7827
@silcrowprima7827 5 жыл бұрын
Man I’m only 15, but since i was 5 I’ve played a lot of snes games and I’ve loved them. Recently my friend brought over a computer snes released by nintendo. And we started playing the game and we loved it. It was funny seeing as accidentally ending the world is fitting thing he would do and we had named the character after him. The games story,gameplay and especially music made me love this game. And its one of my favorite of all time. Also i have to admit certain bosses have stun damage lock rotations that were a bit annoying and the later half of the game forced us to look up a walkthrough but anyway 10/10 game and im definitely buying the mana collection that has the first 3 games. Your review was pretty accurate but I disagree that it hasn’t aged well.
@ClassicContagious
@ClassicContagious 9 жыл бұрын
Another amazing review Derek. This is one that's on my massive to play list... someday. The wife and I are headed to Virginia then North Carolina next week so I'm bringing my GBA and only FFVI. I hope to complete it this week.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
+Classic Contagious Gaming Nice! Good luck! :)
@mattlandry
@mattlandry 9 жыл бұрын
Also thanks so much for this review. I've tried getting into this game so many times in the past year and can never stick with it. Now I know I'm not missing something atleast and I can put it to rest
@TerminallyNerdy
@TerminallyNerdy 3 жыл бұрын
I like Secret well enough but Legend of Mana will always be my preferred game. Good vid sir!
@otakon17
@otakon17 8 жыл бұрын
This was my first proper RPG when I got a SNES way back when I was 12 years old... it was also the first game I ever got completely stuck on and waited about 3 months for a strategy guide to arrive in the mail for it. The first elemental temple stumped me something fierce back, mostly because the enemies whupped my ASS effortlessly while up to that point I had been able to progress fairly naturally. Still one of my favorite games, wish I could experience all over again new.
@MilesMariae
@MilesMariae 7 жыл бұрын
I only picked this up on the Virtual console 2 years ago, I thought it was pretty good. Completed it and felt it still holds it own today.
@CBZero
@CBZero 9 жыл бұрын
how bout Legend of Mana for psx?
@b1ackwa1tz2
@b1ackwa1tz2 7 жыл бұрын
Love these reviews. Nostalgia overload! Was wondering if you ever planned to do a Legend of Mana review. Hopes aren't high, but it was probably my favorite of the series!
@Kinaldio
@Kinaldio 9 жыл бұрын
I just started up a new file with a buddy a few weeks ago. The AI is so bad that having a friend or two play with you is a must. I would even say that single-player, I give this game maybe 6/10. But with two or three people I think it gets a 9/10. It's still fun enough to warrant playing today, even with all of its flaws. The grinding gets pretty bad, especially for completionists, but we are breezing through playing casually. The drop-in / drop-out mechanic and three-player support for SNES were especially ground-breaking. I'm also really impressed you knew their real names. Most people I've met just thought they were called "the boy", "the girl", and "the sprite", but hardcore fans know they're Randi, Purim, and Popoi.
@gentlemancaller4058
@gentlemancaller4058 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Derek It's been awhile since I played, but I'm almost certain you can change the text box background in the options. You can also get back into the first village by spamming the character switch button and pressing up.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 2 жыл бұрын
You absolutely can, but none of the backgrounds are just a solid color. They're all dithered patterns of colored and transparent pixels. It's a nitpick but a valid one I think. :)
@gentlemancaller4058
@gentlemancaller4058 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperDerek Valid indeed.
@dennisluchesi
@dennisluchesi 10 күн бұрын
Great review, I also love Secret Of Mana, one of my favorite video games!
@toolman4745
@toolman4745 2 жыл бұрын
Haha Amy just showing up out of nowhere was gold. I've been playing this with my daughter on the Switch and yeah...the hit detection and AI are both terrible. However, that music man.... I heard that one of the issues with Secret of Mana is that they originally were making it for the CD system made by Sony but then when that fell through the design team was told to modify it for cartridge and that was a major difficulty.
@padensmith7643
@padensmith7643 7 жыл бұрын
Derek you are awesome man. Absolutely through and wonderful reviews. You have truly mastered your craft. You shoulddo a review on Albert Odyssey: The Legend of Eldean if you have not, or Skies Of Arcadia. Amazing RPGS. I just wrapped up Terranigma I would love to chat with you about that game no one i know has played it lol.
@Link1813
@Link1813 3 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, only Zelda A Link to the Past surpasses this masterpiece. Secret of Mana is simply awesome! Great review!!! 😊
@Ponimaju
@Ponimaju 8 жыл бұрын
I bought a Super Famicom copy for about a tenth of what an English copy goes for. I'm hoping that I can manage to piece together the story by reading along in the old Official Game Secrets guide while I play.
@dave88861
@dave88861 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and content ! I just ran upon your content randomly when looking for a good breathe of fire review. Gonna check out more vid's and probably will subscribe here after another video or two lol thanks for the honest opinion, I dont think your wrong for pointing out the games flaws. I definitely do over look them all because of the nostalgia factor this game brings to me. Point well made
@Pensive_Scarlet
@Pensive_Scarlet 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, I like how you started with the classic intense boss music! XD
@osorioace
@osorioace 9 жыл бұрын
Damn you were pretty much spot on dude. To be honest though, I would put Illusion of Gaia and a Link to the past over Mana. Terranigma and Seiken densetsu 3 are obviously the best action rpg's though
@Metaconta
@Metaconta 6 жыл бұрын
¿Se sabe el motivo por el cuál sacan Secret of Mana en formato físico para PS4 y el Final Fantasy VII y IX remaster solo en la Store?
@madcapper6
@madcapper6 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I think you pretty much nailed it on all counts. Have you played Seiken Densetsu 3? If so, which game did you like more? Just curious because I've played SoM but not SD3.
@KlonoaDream
@KlonoaDream 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Looking at the good and bad is always a good thing. Some people don't like having to wait on the co-op, but i personally never minded. I could wait to play as my favorite, the Sprite! Oh, I could be wrong, but I think I know why the AI ignores you and it was shown in the video. You tried telling them to do magic when they get hit. When they get hit, you are better off waiting for them to stand still, or at least get back up. That's what I noticed anyway!
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
+KlonoaDream Yeah, that was just the first time I saw it happen in the ~30 hours of gameplay I was sifting through xD. I know why it happens, but it would have been nice if it could have queued the command. Sometimes I've noticed they'll ignore commands if you're issueing commands to the other AI, and then using an item on yourself in rapid-succession. The game gets easily overwhelmed, I think. :)
@starhew2868
@starhew2868 8 жыл бұрын
You deserve more views and such. You really think out your points and don't rely on silly animation and editing tricks. Plus you say snes as a word. That is correct sir!
@sveknut
@sveknut 9 жыл бұрын
Great to see a balanced review of this game. I like the game and it's definitely a good game, but it's not as uber-fantastic without any flaws, that some people claim.
@gabrielclark1425
@gabrielclark1425 7 жыл бұрын
It too was a stable of my childhood. I could never get past the Fire Gigas. One day I returned, and with my greater experience, actually understood what the AI options meant. It was an easy fight.
@andrewwebsterphillips
@andrewwebsterphillips 9 жыл бұрын
Another game on the bucket list. I have the Wii VC version. Physical copy on SNES would be best but the Wii's classic controller closely resembles a SNES one so it should be pretty intuitive. I've played dozens of JRPGs starting in the 32 bit era so I'm lacking in my 16 bit resume. You inspired me to finally play and finish the first Breath of Fire. For the next 16 bit adventure I'm considering BoF2, Final Fantasy V, or Secret of Mana.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Phillips If you're just finishing up BoF 1, I'd put BoF2 on hold for a little while because they're really, very similar. I'd hate for you to get fatigued. I personally find it's nice to try to alternate between action RPGs and turn-based games though to help change things up. When you DO play BoF II though, keep an eye out for the fan re-translation, I've been hearing good things about it. I maaaay decide to give it a play through/review at some point. :)
@andrewwebsterphillips
@andrewwebsterphillips 9 жыл бұрын
SuperDerek RPGs Yeah, I found some of the translation of the first game downright humerous in regards to the item names. I'd often yell at the TV saying "what in the hell is a V-PTN"
@bluestrife28
@bluestrife28 6 жыл бұрын
My alltime fave action rpg and the only one I was ever any good at until KH. That beginning theme ALWAYS lowers my blood pressure .
@mattlandry
@mattlandry 9 жыл бұрын
You're delivery and emotion in your voice is actually much better in this video you just need to turn your vocals up to match the volume of the voice over parts and you're good to go! There are also ways to edit your vocals to make it so it cuts down the volume of parts that are too loud and normalizes all of the audio to have it sound crisp and even. If you need it I can show you a quick and easy way to do it just let me know!
@MeatPopsycle
@MeatPopsycle 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this game.
@famigamers4818
@famigamers4818 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video of an awesome game! (love that battle BGM by the way). +Jimmy Hapa (ImportGamingFTW!) mentioned you in one of our conversations so I thought I'd check you out... Pretty good sound too! +1 sub :)
@racerxgundam
@racerxgundam 9 жыл бұрын
i came here for the secret of mana review, but i subscribed because of that epic cow lick hairdo! :-)
@worldhaslosttheplot9735
@worldhaslosttheplot9735 7 жыл бұрын
racerxgundam that is one whoppa of a cow lick...
@xebatansis
@xebatansis 6 жыл бұрын
As a kid I absolutely loved the magic system in this game.
@LeftoverCultureReview
@LeftoverCultureReview 9 жыл бұрын
That two player mode looks awesome! More RPG's need a way for a second person to drop in :P Great review man
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
+Leftover Culture Review Yeah, it can be a lot of fun. Bringing up a menu does halt gameplay though which can frustrate the other player though. If you get the option though, I'd definitely bring someone along for the ride. Maybe a little Bruiser Jr. when he's old enough? :)
@LeftoverCultureReview
@LeftoverCultureReview 9 жыл бұрын
I guess with the two kids and the wife, we'd have a full time... Just no-one with much of an attention span (including myself :P)
@mikeylovespizza4012
@mikeylovespizza4012 2 жыл бұрын
Played this game in 2nd grade. Best multi player RPG
@RealShaun
@RealShaun 5 жыл бұрын
Complicated question but: what is the 3rd game from the front on 1:50? That scene looks amazing
@Version0111
@Version0111 4 жыл бұрын
Breath of Fire 3
@JazzemYT
@JazzemYT 9 жыл бұрын
Great review! I'm in agreement with you on the gameplay flaws, the teammate AI is indeed woeful...such a pretty and nice sounding game though, still want to try it in co-op someday.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
+James Reid Yeah, co-op really has the potential to make this game more enjoyable in lieu of a good story. These days though it's tough to get time together with a friend to just blast through a 25 hour game. Hopefully newer versions of digital releases will allow for online multiplayer and voice-chat to help restore life to some of these multiplayer classics.
@wildwest1832
@wildwest1832 6 жыл бұрын
id agree that som didnt age as well as some other snes classics, but for its time it was an amazing game worthy of the hype. I still enjoy playing it, but there are some annoying issues it has like AI. The issues though are products of that time. It still did a lot of unique things for back then
@willmistretta
@willmistretta 7 жыл бұрын
The music in SoM vesus Terranigma? That's a really, really hard question to approach, honestly. The compositions in SoM are amazing, no doubt, but having just finished Terranigma for the first time earlier this week, I feel like its music *works* on me more. Terranigma, to me, was so much more of an emotional tour de force (that ending!) that its score affects me that much more because of it. SoM's songs are great, but they're not associated with any particularly dramatic or intense moments because SoM just didn't have those for the most part.
@ChrisKPlays
@ChrisKPlays 8 жыл бұрын
It's funny how this game implemented Final Fantasy 2's leveling system in regards to only weapons and magic.
@otakon17
@otakon17 8 жыл бұрын
3:35 slight mistake, his NAME is Jema(aka Gemma because WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSLEY!!!!)
@arthrisis9629
@arthrisis9629 8 жыл бұрын
Can you review seiken densestu 3?
@texastech56789
@texastech56789 8 жыл бұрын
if not Secret of Mana, what is the best Snes ajrpg worldwide, Tales of Phantansia SNES ?
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 8 жыл бұрын
+texastech56789 If you haven't already, check out my review of Terranigma. I think it's superior, except the music might not be quite as awesome as it is In SoM. :)
@SamuraiSam
@SamuraiSam 9 жыл бұрын
Despite being an enormous fan of the Super Nintendo and its action RPGs, I'm afraid I've never felt the love for Secret of Mana aside from the soundtrack. In fact, I very much prefer Secret of Evermore. It fixes the issues described in this review. The only bad news (for me) is that Evermore is not 2-player.
@totemlordreviews7242
@totemlordreviews7242 5 жыл бұрын
Good review, man! The gameplay and music are definitely the strong points on this game. For me, my biggest gripe are the townsfolk. They have got to be the most useless part of the game! I feel like 99% of them say stuff that isn't useful, clever, or even interesting. Liking your content! Keep up the good work!!!!!
@TotemoGaijin
@TotemoGaijin 4 жыл бұрын
I love Secret of Mana to death, but I think the series missed it's chance to evolve alongside its peers, Tales and Star Ocean. Have high hopes for the Trials of Mana remake though.
@CrimsonFantasy
@CrimsonFantasy 8 жыл бұрын
great video
@FragginCap
@FragginCap 6 жыл бұрын
So thankfully your recent request to go back and watch your videos aligns with my being a new fan. But I'm AMAZED you revierwd this but not Secret of Evermore! IMHO Evermore was the better game, I found Mana's story and characters very thin, where as Evermore is corny and charming. For shame my well learned friend
@GorditoCrunch343
@GorditoCrunch343 6 жыл бұрын
Evermore was always better, it just got hated on by close-minded fans who couldn't believe that America improved on the JRPG formula.
@bestboutgaming3212
@bestboutgaming3212 7 жыл бұрын
Great game, one of the best on the SNES. That said, yes many things about it have been updating/evolved over the years. The battle system is janky, and the AI gets stuck a bit and like any RPG it can be easy. Still, for being a trend setter the game is still awesome with excellent color/graphics and music.
@justsomejojo
@justsomejojo 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I'm really glad I only got into the series in 2019/20 with Final Fantasy Adventure and Trials of Mana/Seiken Densetsu 3. Because when I tried playing SoM, the various shortcomings in terms of AI and hit detection made it an easy drop for me. Stun locks are not fun on either side which prevents me from really liking this game. I'll probably eventually return to it with a fresh mind, but as of right now, I don't like it.
@marklee1194
@marklee1194 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this game back in high school, although I thought the leveling up was more tedious than Final Fantasy and the ending sucked.
@TheOrzhovSyndicate
@TheOrzhovSyndicate 9 жыл бұрын
loved this game getting a game sesh going is so hard but i got a group of 4 for tales of symphonia we played for 78 hours....i feel as though games should be like that but there not anymore
@thogameskanaal
@thogameskanaal 8 жыл бұрын
The music in this game is so similar to Chrono Cross!
@unique_mushroom
@unique_mushroom 9 жыл бұрын
you should review arc the lad series!
@Mjblazer84
@Mjblazer84 Ай бұрын
I beat SOM without using magic, made it much more challenging
@Ubermicropwned
@Ubermicropwned 6 жыл бұрын
the graphics aged perfect. It's a particular art style.
@sebshifter
@sebshifter 6 жыл бұрын
For the game's fans out there : are the missing hits a nightmare for you as well or is it just me ? Like charging a full power attack for ages and missing the target completely for no valid reason ? I tried this game recently and just completely hated it because of that, i really forced myself to get to the end.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, I recall that as well. Sometimes it's because the game is busy registering other sources of damage from your allies, sometimes they're in the middle of invincible animation frames or the Z-axis is off just enough. It's one of the reasons I had to rely on magic so hard to get through the game. I'm hoping they address this in the remake. And hopefully a new translation too. :)
@sebshifter
@sebshifter 6 жыл бұрын
Oh that explains it. Thanks for answering :) I feel kinda left out for dislking a game so widely beloved, but sometimes, the smallest problems like this can ruin the whole experience.
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 6 жыл бұрын
Trust me, I know exactly how you feel man. I mentioned a few things that weren't so great about Breath of Fire IV in that review in an otherwise glowing review of the game, and I'll never hear the end of it! I think people need to realize that games are a subjective experience, and we play them in the context of our own life experiences. Things that strike chords on the heartstrings of some might look like cliché drivel to another, and that's a wonderful thing. :)
@justintahair9119
@justintahair9119 6 жыл бұрын
yea i had fun with it to a point you really got to get use to the invintory system but wanted to love this game grinding tho all you have to do is tap the button and use charge attacts more during boss battles
@Conan_The_Librarian
@Conan_The_Librarian 9 жыл бұрын
another great review as always man :) i was waiting for you to say NATSUME when you were saying RPG companies :P Cant wait to see a Lufia review :) damn its my favorite RPG on the SNES. And if you ever get a chance defs play Rogue Galaxy on the PS2 If you have a spare 100 hrs that is hahah Thats my fav RPG on the PS2. And while we are at it play Skies of Arcadia Legends on the GameCube :) again... Fav :)
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks +R2 MY D2! Surprisingly, I haven't touched on any Natsumi games yet, but you're totally right that they played a huge part in making the 16 bit generation awesome! I do have a copy of Lufia 2 now, so it won't be long before I'm able to add that dev to my list. :)
@Conan_The_Librarian
@Conan_The_Librarian 9 жыл бұрын
SuperDerek RPGs Thats the only one we got here.. And it was just called Lufia :) If you live stream that ill watch every second :) ill be you live walkthrough. I know the hell out of that game :)
@sheepnoisebah
@sheepnoisebah 9 жыл бұрын
5:30 suspicious...
@amybeins
@amybeins 9 жыл бұрын
it was SuperDerek's idea
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
+Amy B lol, oh dear...
@MrPicofmylife
@MrPicofmylife 9 жыл бұрын
+sheepnoisebah Epic!
@MANLYMANHAIRYCHEST
@MANLYMANHAIRYCHEST 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna say it..... BLOWJOB!!!!! lol
@one7decimal2eight
@one7decimal2eight 6 жыл бұрын
yes. the plot in the last part of the game sucked. hard to figure out what to do. and the weapon charging and having to wait for your sword to reach 100% was a waste of time. I spent too much time waiting to attack and that is a pointless waste of time that extends the time it takes to complete the game unnecessarily . I would have preferred to have it be like zelda. the soundtrack is great, but the game is merely ok. and I grew up in this time and bought it brand new when I was 13.
@DiddyTrini
@DiddyTrini 7 жыл бұрын
Remake on Steam soon :)
@Ubermicropwned
@Ubermicropwned 6 жыл бұрын
You're wrong. The hype does live up to it's expectation. It was the only JRPG i played WITH my brother when i was young. It was an amazing experience that you could share with another person. That is why it was so amazing at the time.
@Wulong44
@Wulong44 8 жыл бұрын
Randi, south park XD he pulled the sword too hehehe
@thogameskanaal
@thogameskanaal 8 жыл бұрын
Meh... I still think Chrono Trigger was a much better SNES RPG than SoM...
@jus4000kicks
@jus4000kicks 8 жыл бұрын
Probably, but you are comparing a turn based rpg to an action rpg.
@trshpnd2476
@trshpnd2476 6 жыл бұрын
@@jus4000kicks An 'action' RPG that you still have to grind levels and wait for your action gauge to fill 100% to deal any damage. SoM was a turn-based RPG in disguise.
@jus4000kicks
@jus4000kicks 6 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. There are a number of action Rpgs that you may have to grind in. Final Fantasy IV is a turn based RPG which had an element of real time in it with the ATB system. Secret of Mana is the opposite. An action RPG with an element of a turn based RPG in it. Its still an action rpg but consider the fact that Square hadn't really made much action rpgs up til that point so it was an experimental time. They obviously hadn't perfected the action RPG. Besides that does an action RPG have to be 100% one way or the other? Can't some be more action oriented and some less so. I hate when people use genres of all things (which by their nature are broad in meaning) to say that something isn't one thing or the other (except when Legend of Zelda fans call Legend of Zelda games action RPGs). Whats more is there are many examples of games that are hybrids of genres. In other words don't get too stuck in your idea of what something should be. Video Games are a creative medium and are much better when the developers aren't simply trying to fit a game into a type of mold (although there are exceptions). In secret of mana you control the characters movements. There is no screen transition. You fight enemies on the same map you explore. You attack by pressing the attack button. It is possible to move your character to avoid attacks. The charging special attacks was obviously inspired by A link to the Past's charging spin attack. Secret of Mana is an Action RPG. I personally like that you have to earn new charge attacks and new weapon upgrades can come with special effects. Armor is basically essential but that makes armor feel useful at least. Although you do have to train or grind your magic this games way of doing it feels very intuitive. The animations even change to show you how strong your magic has become. You don't need to grind your magic to its top level though. How much you decide to grind your magic essentially creates the difficulty curve in the game (Bosses are very easy with top level magic). You can beat the game without using your magic much.
@trshpnd2476
@trshpnd2476 6 жыл бұрын
@@jus4000kicks TL;DR. At least, format your text to make it more pleasant to the eyes of a possible reader. It was a turn-based RPG in disguise, as everything sums up to grinding, spamming magic, and waiting for the bar to fill up (and here, I'm referring to the 0-100% bar, which regards your basic attack, not the charged attack). Movement was useless (hell, even dodges, blocks and misses were purely based on character stats) - it actually just made fights drag out longer. 60% waiting, 40% actual gameplay.
@jus4000kicks
@jus4000kicks 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't read it its your problem not mine. I don't comment on youtube to look for grammar advice. Only to make my points clear. In action RPGs there is also grinding (for instance in Oblivion you fight to level up your skill in using weapons and blocking, etc). Secret of Mana was an early RPG from a game developer who had mostly made turn based RPGs so what do you expect. Read my comment fully cuz I address everything you said.
@Huddy40
@Huddy40 6 жыл бұрын
"if you had 2 friends" lol
@Ejohns1004
@Ejohns1004 5 жыл бұрын
I loved this game but it's no Secret of Evermore. Also, the PS4 remake is the most faithful reproduction in history.
@uptown215
@uptown215 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this game being dumb hard
@yooowhatupribs
@yooowhatupribs 4 жыл бұрын
Did you just say "Snes" instead of S.N.E.S.!?!?
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly! It happens from time to time. There are at least a few of us who do this. :-P
@yooowhatupribs
@yooowhatupribs 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperDerek Haha, it made me rewind. Thanks for the review, ordered the collection for switch :)
@Vitrous
@Vitrous 7 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Secret of Mana is available on the Wii U which kind of sucks.
@redcomn
@redcomn 8 жыл бұрын
You forgot Nihon falcom the father of squaresoft
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 8 жыл бұрын
+red comn I only didn't mention Nihon Falcom because I haven't actually reviewed a game by them yet. Still need to dig into the Y's series.
@redcomn
@redcomn 8 жыл бұрын
+SuperDerek RPGs oh I didn't knew that. I won't say the story section is a masterpieces. After all for jrpg many stuff is driven with plot convenient back in the days. Well except xenogear, that one story telling beats many other medium of story telling. Y's and densetsu does have it own flair tho. I do remember having a good time playing it decades ago. Good luck trying one.
@TheScrubNubb
@TheScrubNubb 7 жыл бұрын
Turn based battles were the best 😒 I'm sad they are a thing of the past.
@soragranda
@soragranda 7 жыл бұрын
Better than Square Soft?, that´s easy, Monolith Soft.
@bluestrife28
@bluestrife28 6 жыл бұрын
Lol I gotta stop watching these you already got me replaying Lufia 1 and Dragon Quest IV
@tiagocosmos
@tiagocosmos 4 жыл бұрын
i FAR prefer Seiken Densetsu 3.
@KenpachiX420
@KenpachiX420 6 жыл бұрын
The male protagonist is so useless though, only the two girls get magic, and they can just as easily equip the sword. What's he even around for?
@InktheImpassive
@InktheImpassive 7 жыл бұрын
i hate this freaking game i cant even beat the 2nd boss
@marklee1194
@marklee1194 7 жыл бұрын
You might want to search on GameFaqs for a walkthrough.
@trshpnd2476
@trshpnd2476 6 жыл бұрын
This game is overrated. The combat system was sluggish and badly designed - the reason that even fanboys with their nostalgia goggles on say you have to rely on magic and grinding for the whole game.
@Dacho_Shaki
@Dacho_Shaki 9 жыл бұрын
SuperDerek, why are you sooo damnnn Superrr?
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 9 жыл бұрын
+CliffFitter89 Let's just say, I owe it all to video games! ;) Maybe someday I'll make an origin-story episode. xD
@Dacho_Shaki
@Dacho_Shaki 9 жыл бұрын
SuperDerek RPGs Great answer. :D
@Kainlarsen
@Kainlarsen 6 жыл бұрын
I must disagree with you, Derek. I understand your need to be impartial on this, but I feel you're being rather too harsh on the game.
@brandonsmusicpage1
@brandonsmusicpage1 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah Secret of Mana is easily one of Square's best games with a good story, phenomenal music, gorgeous graphics, and has innovated the co-op experience into the genre in which games nowadays aren't even utilizing. Definitely a game worth playing!
@GamingOnTheEdge
@GamingOnTheEdge 4 жыл бұрын
Boy get rid of that earing
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 4 жыл бұрын
Search Results 😂😂😂
@GamingOnTheEdge
@GamingOnTheEdge 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know, that you assume it, great response, boy your channel is full of lovely surprises, that earring give you the power!
@thebluePrincess5904
@thebluePrincess5904 8 жыл бұрын
Kingdom hearts franchise is a better action rpg series in my opinion
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 8 жыл бұрын
+The Blue Knight 590 It's pretty good, but I think that Terranigma and Dark Cloud 2 are even better than all of the above. Check out my reviews of them if you haven't already. :)
@thebluePrincess5904
@thebluePrincess5904 8 жыл бұрын
do they have a story as the kingdom heart`s series one
@SuperDerek
@SuperDerek 8 жыл бұрын
+The Blue Knight 590 It's hard to say, it's been a long while since I played KH, but from what I remember I don't think I cared for the story of KH much because I couldn't follow a lot of it. However, I really enjoyed the stories of both Terranigma and Dark Cloud 2.
@alaanassar
@alaanassar 3 жыл бұрын
Boring game. Got so bored I couldn’t finish it
@MP2066
@MP2066 8 жыл бұрын
Secret of Evermore I really prefer this game its more interesting imo
@jayt2917
@jayt2917 5 жыл бұрын
MP2066 hell no
@timothyroehm4307
@timothyroehm4307 5 жыл бұрын
THIS GAME IS SO UNPLAYABLE OMG!!!!!
@777Bethany777
@777Bethany777 6 жыл бұрын
You know you can change the text background, right? Sorry, just had to ;)
@MiguelRamirez-xw5hl
@MiguelRamirez-xw5hl 8 жыл бұрын
you should try star ocean,on,the snes
@Metallizombie
@Metallizombie 12 күн бұрын
I get the impression a lot of reviewers such as yourself have to take points of this game to somehow appear objective. I think that in itself is a falsehood, and let’s to unfair criticism. This game has held up extremely well, and its praise and placement in the top tier of all RPG’s is well earned.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
I finally have this game, got it cheap. How so you ask? Simple, it's the Japanese version sadly. Eventually I must have the third one too, will do the Japanese version of it as well. Only the first Mana I have in English form, Final Fantasy Adventure on the Gameboy.
@Soloong_Gaybowzer
@Soloong_Gaybowzer Жыл бұрын
I bought the 3D remake on Steam and it was worth every penny.
@Aryaz13
@Aryaz13 2 жыл бұрын
Only one criticism (and I totally realize you didn’t ask…) you sound like you’re reading from a script and the points of emotion you make are poorly acted (sounds so much harsher than I mean it). Loved this video!! Literally laughed out loud when the two of you were looking for two more friends. Really enjoyed this and look forward to more!! Subbing now!
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