Meet Dave | Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, Part 1 | Dorktown

“Who’s Dave Stieb?” you might be asking. Well, this is a guy who had never stepped on a pitcher’s mound in his life until age 20. Just four years later, he was the best pitcher in the American League. This is the beginning of the almost unbelievable story of the man who put the Toronto Blue Jays on the map.
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Written and produced by Alex Rubenstein
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[@SecretBaseSBN]

hey everybody! Jon here. Alex and i hope you’ve enjoyed this series so far. thanks for giving us the time of day. just wanted to give y’all a heads-up: Part 2 is going up Tuesday, March 15th, Part 3 runs Tuesday, March 29th, and Part 4 runs Tuesday, April 12th. why aren’t we releasing them sooner? the answer is simple: i have a poor work ethic! i don’t want to work hard! anyways in between we’ve got some other good Secret Base stuff coming, including a Weird Rules from Seth and Clara about a baseball game that was delayed for the dumbest possible reason. hope you enjoy, and we’ll have much more Stieb Content coming your way soon.

[@mike04574]

Surprised with the choice of topic but good video otherwise

[@danwindows7]

Looking forward to more Clara content!

[@noway718]

A whole 6 weeks to complete the Story of Stieb?! My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[@nols550]

is there any way we can find the music used in this video, pastebin, etc?

[@trickshotmaster9033]

@@nols550 All the names and artists are listed in order during the credits at the last 10 seconds of the video

[@corbing7786]

I’ve never heard of Dave Stieb but I am fully prepared to get deeply emotionally invested in him and his career

[@braddwferguson]

He was the man. Legend in Toronto.

[@luisguillermojg]

Hard same.

[@craigvatcher42]

I'll never forget when he finally got his no hitter. Remember that game like it was yesterday.

[@thomasma1872]

he only played till '93, so i dont know how many theres gonna be, but im still hyped

[@squillz8310]

@@thomasma1872 4 part series!! Plenty to praise!

[@FactorD3]

I am just delighted with the fact that you guys connected Roy Halladay to Dave Stieb in such a dramatic way. This is a great masterpiece.

[@JWex-jy7sk]

That was just Halladay’s 2nd career start too! They even gave a connection in that beginning to Stieb’s final MLB manager Tim Johnson, who his story is forgotten by many except Blue Jays fans. Managed them to a 88-74 record his 1st season and then got fired in Spring training 1999 when it was found out all his thrilling and motivational stories about being a war veteran in Vietnam were all lies and the team hated his guts for it.

[@Mr4one6]

For real that was excellent. I really appreciate how these guys find those connections

[@soulfly3438]

correction halliday connected himself to stieb like this. and literally noone noticed except secret base. for like decades. this is why i love secret base.

[@88porpoise]

@@soulfly3438 I believe Bobby Higginson was the man who created the connection. I don't think Halladay intended that pitch to wind up in the bullpen.

[@MKPiatkowski]

@@soulfly3438 Nope, us Jays fans made a big deal of it symbolizing a passing of the torch at the time. This began Toronto's love affair with Doc.

[@Bismuth9]

I have the utmost respect for the amount of work that goes into making long haul, exhaustive video series like this one. You guys must be elated to finally release this masterpiece into the world.

[@User-1683x2]

Excellent work!! 👏 👏

[@bananacat3109]

it’s the speedrun guy

[@Sylocat]

And you would know!

[@qualitywesterwood1186]

Damn this is like the baseball bits/summoning salt arc

[@dandischinosvarietyhour1655]

Oh hey, its bismuth! Another great video creator

[@shlomgar]

That Halladay intro is like these video game overtures, where you play another character starting maxed up with a boss fight and lose, just to introduce you to the game mechanics. Genius.

[@mikkovitug1361]

I'm a huge Dave Stieb fan and this is my first time hearing of him

[@duaneday5474]

Dave Stieb pitched the first no hitter in blue Jays franchise history on my birthday September 2. Dave's a cool guy in private life I've been told.

[@stebjin]

@@duaneday5474 Spoilers!

[@montblancnoland4034]

The power of Jon and Alex bro these guys have an innate talent to make things seems grandiose is nuts

[@serraramayfield9230]

@@stebjin I mean if you looked at the poster for the series it already shows it, plus the foreshadowing is already there

[@SoLongDentalPlan69]

@@duaneday5474 what an awesome day that was. My brother and I were listening to it on the radio while doing yard work. Went in to watch the 9th. What a game

[@asepheleleshabalala1352]

Because of Dorktown I am now: - a mariners fan - a falcons fan - a dave stieb fan

[@ourlittleratrescueoklahoma7077]

Same

[@williamhaber4382]

As a Seattle transplant sports fan originally from Miami I liked the Mariners but Dorktown made me love them

[@gloven2run689]

Never heard of Dave stieb before this.. now I talk to other people about him like I watched him growing up.

[@graysonbyass-rascoe4326]

Bought a griffey jr and sr jersey cause of it lol

[@davidl7672]

Im with you, well, not a falcons fan, not sure anything could get me there, but I just bought a signed Dave Stieb baseball and now me and my kid are Mainers and Dave Stieb fans. Good god this was heart breaking to watch.

[@wakkawakkagaming3710]

Every time they do a new Dorktown, and they show the big overview of all the different episodes woven together, I realize that the stories come together to make a literal town, composed of data charts and stories

[@brickwallblitz]

A town founded by dorks!

[@squillz8310]

@@brickwallblitz By dorks, from dorks, for dorks!

[@alec1115]

Jon calls it the Dorktown neighborhood.

[@dakotathomas2139]

The boys here have such good creative talent and energy.

[@aydenpeele747]

I have never once cared about baseball, but Jon and Alex have a magical power to make me care about anything and everything, god damn it I love you guys.

[@universe-ie2mk]

the mariners story is just classic tv. they have years of teams and eras to do more dorktowns.

[@MrShanester117]

Obsequious alert!!

[@momsnewboyfriend6183]

I can't believe Dave Stieb gets his own Dorktown, I'm so immeasurably exited

[@tiedomi80]

It took me a hot minute to realize what I was looking at!

[@kermitfrog593]

i still can't believe it

[@tompaulcampbell]

"Excited"?

[@Thor-Orion]

Who da fock is that guy?!

[@RetroBaseball]

I have watched baseball my entire life, and research it with the majority of my free time, but I guarantee Jon and Alex will tell me something that I never knew about this man.

[@Pashizzle500]

I’m from the UK and went into the Seattle Mariners series never having heard of them, experiencing their fortunes entirely through the incredible storytelling of Jon and Alex. I fell in love with them, and the series got me through the first lockdown. I had never heard of Dave Stieb before this video and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

[@stevencooke6451]

I'm from Toronto and thought I knew Stieb but I assumed he had been pitching for years prior to his major league debut. I knew the media hated him. And that there was a tendency to write off teams north of the border, particularly the then-recent expansion Jays who were far worse than their cousins the Mariners.

[@Millipede666]

You should think long and hard about what this says about American sports writers. That the best pitcher in baseball barely registered with the people that are paid to write about it is an embarrassment.

[@Millipede666]

@@SimuLord I was referring to the overall culture. Yes there are amazing writers all over the place these days but they tend not be in prominent positions in national sports media.

[@kermitfrog593]

@@Millipede666 couldn't have it said it better myself

[@Sleth0theoriginal0]

"He has hit just one home run in 890 career at bats. That's about one in 890." I took me 3 seconds to realize what you said.

[@neutralamity]

these guys are so good with numbers. i would have never found out what 1 home run in 890 at bats is equal to.

[@facerip2222]

If you're down here in the comments after having just watched all 50 minutes of this video, I would implore you to go back and rewatch the first 5 minutes. You will suddenly gain a whole new perspective on the magnitude of this video's opening. It just gave me chills.

[@omarkorayem6611]

I watched this series as it was coming out. Im here watching it again and the chills are indeed real

[@leonardlumbers]

Decked out in our STIEB 37 Jays jerseys, my best friend and I quietly cheered against then-absolute no-name Halladay during that ninth inning. We didn’t need a second-start kid bagging a no-no with the progenitor of Blue Jay heartbreak in the ‘pen and likely on his last Major League watch. We were in the top-ring 500s, first row, homemade Stieb signs draped over the ugly cinder siding, shading toward centre-right. Higginson, one of the better Detroit players, left off the lineup card that day until his call to interrupt history, launched that gopher into the sky and we just looked at each other, eyes saying “trajectory,” and watched it carom into Stieb’s mitt. He barely flinched. It’s not an easy catch, considering speed and surface, either. He held the ball until the handshakes, quietly dropping into the kid’s hand, and that was that. Jeez. If I’m getting THIS much material off a sidebar story, what am I gonna get out of the main course? Much-younger me was also at Stieb’s home debut, July 9, 1979, a four-hit 7-1 CG win where the only Brewers hits came off hall of famers (Yount, Molitor) or future battery mates (Buck). Lot to unpack. Looking forward to the opportunity.

[@daBEAGLE1017]

Those 79 Brewers were no joke either. They lost to NYY in the playoffs.

[@leonardlumbers]

@@daBEAGLE1017 Sort of the proto Harvey’s Wallbangers of ‘82, right? Yeah, they were good, deep, consistent. Lot of near-.600 seasons in that Brewers period.

[@daBEAGLE1017]

@@leonardlumbers they really did have some good teams in the mid 70s up to early 90s. When Molitor left to win a ring was the beginning of the dark era. At least us fans had somethings to root for since the mid 2000s. Those dang 82 Cards.

[@leonardlumbers]

@@daBEAGLE1017 I suspect we have another - and I say this without an ounce of salt - healthy Cards hater here. That org’s gotten up into SO many grills over the years. Seems they’re always around when heartache’s on the menu. Unless they’re playing the Papi-era Sox. (I liked those turn-of-the-‘80s Brewers teams, fwiw. Classy guys, beer-league avatar guys, HOF guys, best darned ball cap logo ever, effectively Fonzie’s hometown, a lot to appreciate… When Molitor and Hisle won up here in 1993 I remember sparing a thought for MIL fans and hoping they got a little something out of seeing Paul’s eyes welling up in the group celebrations following the Carter HR.)

[@daBEAGLE1017]

@@leonardlumbers i still have Larry Hisels autograph for some odd reason. Do i hate the Cards.....nah but i wont doubt their dominance. Its strange how they beat the Brewers in 82 and now they both are in the same division. I also will never hate the Cubs. My family used to be able to pick up WGN in the 70s/80s and since they were the closest NL team to Milwaukee, i always rooted for them....the WhiteSox tho are a different story. I seen some good fan fisticuffs when both teams were in the AL. God bless Cub fans....Card fans too. Lets go True Blue Brew Crew (if they have a season this year at least)!!!!

[@herotomillions4095]

Best pitcher of the 80s. Arguably best pitcher in Blue Jays history. An absolute travesty that he's not in the hof. If he played on any team other than Toronto, he probably would be. Really hope you guys bring him some well deserved recognition

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

I couldn't agree more but my brother thinks "Dave Stieb, best pitcher of the 80s" are fighting words.

[@herotomillions4095]

@@buckodonnghaile4309 I could take your brother and all his grade 3 friends

[@buckodonnghaile4309]

@@herotomillions4095 good, he deserves it.

[@courtneyvaldez7903]

If he’d been able to produce after the age of 32, he’d definitely be in. He’d have like 250ish wins, with the rest of his resume. He probably stays his whole career in Toronto and is available to pitch in the first WS, and then would win the second one. Unfortunately, it’s all what ifs. Certainly of the best who isn’t in the Hall.

[@herotomillions4095]

@Courtney Valdez he had 16 years in the bigs. If Sandy Koufax, who had 12 years and is a worse pitch than Stieb by a large margin, can make the Hall, then Stieb should be in the Hall too. Steib does have a WS ring

[@fries5849]

39:53 Barfield does hitting lessons relatively close to where I live and after meeting with him a few months back, I can confirm he is one of the nicest, and funniest people I’ve met. I don’t think I’ve smiled more at a baseball related event in my life.

[@wwrraayy]

Met him in Cooperstown when I was 12 and he let me wear his 1983 Home Run Leader ring. A wonderful, wonderful man

[@db-rc5fr]

Are you in the Houston area?

[@ccmonter]

I arrived in Toronto from Guatemala via Honduras in 1985 as an 11 year old baseball fanatic. I grew up watching and idolizing Stieb and the Blue Jays. I have learned a lot about Stieb pre 85 and can’t wait for the rest of this series.

[@sunshine_tidings6983]

I’m ready for this to run my life for the next two months

[@Zraknul]

You missed the i in Manfred's plan.

[@jgless12]

As a lifelong Seattle Mariners fan, I didn’t think anything could get any better than that documentary. After watching the first episode of this, my jaw is wide open. Brilliant! I now have emotions about a guy who I never heard of, my dad has never heard of, and several baseball fanatics I know have never heard of. I am SOOOO stoked for the next episode!

[@drizzyuzumaki8753]

This was good but I’d say mariner’s history was better

[@fireproximity4225]

After doing a little research on Dave Stieb, I hope this series can have a similar effect that Foolish Baseball's vid on Larry Walker had on his legacy and hall of fame candidacy. There is no way a player can dominate his position for a decade and not be recognized for it. Though different his peak stats remind me of Felix Hernandez.

[@jamesmalthus2018]

@@charliemorris9111 Veterans Committee, baby!

[@tylercoleman3020]

19 seasons. 19! Crazy

[@jamesmalthus2018]

@@SimuLord Forgive me if I'm wrong as I'm pretty new to baseball, but isn't part of the veterans committee to look at more than stats and accolades? A dude that didn't pitch until he was 20 and was one of the best in the game just a few years later is remarkable. And would be he a HoF candidate in your eyes if he had picked up a Cy Young award or two?

[@stevendeckert6373]

@@SimuLord Agreed. Probably not 100 but there are a few pitchers that have a better case (Johan Santana, Bret Saberhagen, Orel Hershiser, Rick Reuschel, Curt Schilling). He could realistically be a Veteran's Committee selection (certainly has a better resume than Jack Morris and Jim Kaat) though and wouldn't make the Hall worse.

[@stevendeckert6373]

@Fries Kevin Brown has the PED tag so not really a fair comparison.

[@thatsmrtguy4935]

Quick side note for those who don’t: Buck Martinez wasn’t just a great catcher, he’s the Jays announcer now, he’s the guy who people are willing to spend hours every day for 6 months listening to. He was also recently diagnosed with Cancer, here’s hoping for a quick recovery.

[@MultiInternets]

Buck is back baby!

[@christianlawrence2714]

Long form Chart Party is on trajectory to reach perfection. The Falcons, the Mariners, the Bobs... the topics, the music, the graphics, it's all so good. Is it even possible to wait for the compilation to release or do most watch all the individual parts and then watch the whole thing again? Cheers for this and these, yall.

[@StarkRavingSports]

ok but…Rickey IS the best 🤷‍♂️

[@Ishkur23]

Hey guys, I found Ricky Henderson's youtube account!

[@jonsmith1956]

I've never heard of Dave Stieb and now I'm fully intrigued with Dave Stieb. I'm avoiding looking anything up about him throughout this series to maintain surprise of what comes next.

[@kermitfrog593]

he was my fave player growing up and i too want to remain surprised at what comes next.

[@leonardlumbers]

The next half-decade’s the payoff to the immense 1981-85 buildup fashioned by the guys here. It’s a true funhouse mirror and rollercoaster ride rolled into one, my good man, and the insane apex will appear as the doc reaches late ‘88. It’ll be worth the wait, it’ll be worth the ride. Cheers.

[@lotsofregret1557]

5:36am, class in four hours, but as an australian who had no idea what a hit was until the mariners documentary, i'm always here for the ride

[@ThisChangeIsAwful]

I've been using youtube for about 15 years. I"m going to hit the bell icon for the first time ever because this video existed for a week without my knowledge and I will never EVER miss out on Jon Bois again.

[@bjrocks999]

Currently watching through the Falcons series with my friend (my 3rd time, his 1st time), can't wait to start this on my own. Any day with a new edition to the DCU from Jon, Alex, and the crew is a great day for sports!

[@robrichards8074]

Stieb was a beast in his prime and the Blue jays ace for over a decade. He still does alumni events and is a great Blue jay ambassador at charity events. He never got the recognition he deserved for being one the dominant pitcher of the 80's, so its good too see somebody finally cover his story.

[@Delsmarto]

When you hear those opening notes of "Dossier", you know something is about to go down. Great work guys, can't wait for next episode!

[@brucedillon8358]

Part 2 comes out the 15th

[@alexdehmer6621]

Love that song. Hoping for more panning over data uses for it in this series

[@canadave87]

You know you watch Dorktown videos too often when you start to recognize all the songs.

[@TheHouseOfSparrows]

Similarly, I go straight to crying when the opening sax notes sound on "Serengeti," and wait to see if I'm exultant or devastated.

[@davidmcclelland213]

@@TheHouseOfSparrows "Down to Business" always gives me chills, personally.

[@Paul-gk2he]

Huge fan of Mr. Bois. As an 80's Toronto kid, having The Man present the story of The Man? I'm so happy right now.

[@kermitfrog593]

Few know the joys of growing up in Toronto in the 1980's.

[@rickytavilla4259]

One of the most beautiful cities in the world.

[@chrisellis3814]

23:46 When Danny Ainge has to try to cool you out, you know you're pretty fired up.

[@warpdrivefueledbyinsomnia8165]

3:38 This has got to be the first half of one of the absolute sweetest book-ends I've ever seen/heard in sports writing.

[@BaseballHistorian]

There aren’t many constants throughout baseball history, but one thing you can always count on is the writers’ near-superhuman ability to somehow screw up the awards voting on an almost yearly basis.

[@georgenelson8284]

FACTS!!!

[@jpmnky]

The sports writer that sent the one vote against Derek Jeter to the HOF needs his credentials stripped. You’re exactly right. Out of the major sports it’s the baseball writers that never fail to perplex every baseball fan out there.

[@teen_laqueefa]

Love your channel

[@armadillolover99]

@@jpmnky If you’re stripping that guy of a vote then you also have to strip everyone who didn’t vote for Griffey, Bonds, Seaver, Ripken, Aaron, Gwynn, Randy, Chipper, Maddux, Bench, Carlton, Henderson, etc. because they’re all better players than Jeter and got fewer votes

[@josephmatthews7698]

You realize you're enjoying a sports writers video? Cut em some slack. Everyone's got their own opinions and expectations.

[@bhjihari6685]

Only the opening credits sequence and I'm already in tears Also shoutout to Johnny Vander Meer for pitching two no hitters in a row in 1938, visible at 4:53

[@bananacat3109]

dorktown is unparalleled, there’s nothing quite like it

[@JAMDJAMD]

I was a die hard Jays fan in the 80's. I knew all about Dave and was his biggest fan. It was heart breaking to lose to Kansas. Thanks so much to all the people and their work to make this video. I can't wait for the rest of the series!

[@rickytavilla4259]

I was a psycho Red Sox fan then never missed a pitch, Stieb killed us

[@pokehybridtrainer]

I'm not even a baseball fan, but I love the element of humanity that exists with these stories in Dorktown. Getting into Dave's head like this is so dang fascinating, that I can't wait for his no-hitter to arrive.

[@RRaquello]

I watched the game when Stieb almost pitched that perfect game vs. the Yankees. I turned on the TV and was switching around just to find something to watch and turned on the Yankee game, not expecting to stick with it long, but watching Stieb pitch that day, by the second inning I said to myself, "This guy's gonna pitch a perfect game." Not a no-hitter. I said, "Perfect game." I had never seen a pitcher's pitches look like that. They were just buzzing. It didn't look like anyone could touch him. Of course I stuck with it to the end. I had seen a couple of no hitters, but never a perfect game. We all know how it ended, but it was the most dominating performance I've ever seen by a pitcher, and I had seen Tom Seaver's 19 strike out, 10 straight strike out game vs. San Diego (and Seaver's near perfect game vs. the Cubs too). But Stieb that day vs. the Yankees was better.

[@PaulSavagecomedy]

Cannot believe I watched 48 minutes about a player I've never heard of in a sport I actively dislike and also will watch parts 2-4. I'm going to put 3 hours ish into this. Hats off guys, impressive.

[@chasestankievech]

Super pumped for this series! As a Blue Jays fan, I'm all for my favourite sports channel shining a light and drawing attention towards the team, city, and ulitmately an entire country, telling us these stories in a unique and intriguing way. Dorktown never ceases to amaze and excite me! WIthout a doubt you guys have created the greatest sports anthology..thank you!

[@ChristopherBowenSuperbus]

As a Mariners fan… enjoy. I still get goosebumps at the end of the Mariners series.

[@luv2sail66]

I’m old enough to remember him pitching for Toronto. I knew he was good but not much else. Thank you for an interesting presentation. I’m looking forward to seeing the rest of the series.

[@ChristopherBowenSuperbus]

Dave Stieb was one of those players that fans of his era appreciated but virtually no one else cares about. He's always been a player I appreciated. I did not in any way think I would be watching a four part series on his career with each part probably taking an hour-ish, but this is going to be a hoot.

[@ignitefifahd8017]

As a Jays fan I know this one’s gonna make me incredibly happy and also break my heart at the same time

[@johnnycoolguy9554]

Jon Bois is really good at finding the most interesting story with the most obscure sources. First The Bob Emergency and now this. Kudos Jon, you’re a great storyteller.

[@cameron878]

What gems those bob videos were!

[@MKPiatkowski]

Not so obscure. There's a lot of material. 3 major Toronto papers and Stieb's own autobiography, which was a Canadian bestseller.

[@ladsworld]

Glad to hear this joins the Falcons doc in the great lineage of the Mariners finding some way to show up in every Dorktown series.

[@AgentFortySeven47]

i'm so happy you guys put out a video about the blue jays. as a jays fan, it's rare to see our team get this much attention

[@larrysinger9359]

Dave Stieb was actually one of my favorite pitchers when I was a kid.

[@MountainSoftware1984]

To date my favorite Jon Bois story. God bless ya Jon, you made a masterpiece

[@samuelguadi9036]

23:39 Danny Ainge ! Forgot dude was also a baseball player ! What an athlete.

[@adamcoe]

Absolutely stellar. I grew up watching the Jays in the 80s and 90s and this fucking rules. Superbly written and directed as usual. Bois/Rubenstein 2024

[@shanghaiohmy]

cheering the first time Jon brings up WAR like it's an old friend returning to the show

[@prodbyANT]

I only remember Dave Steib as one of the many many baseball cards I had back in the day that did not have Ken Griffey Jr.'s photo printed on it lol

[@beauchang4741]

That was THE best intro to main character you guys have done to date lol

[@twistymcphisty2781]

Criminally underrated career he deserved WAY more recognition

[@czeslawpi]

As an old-school Jays fan that began during Stieb's run, I can say that this is OUTSTANDING. Thank you for putting this together, it looks like an immense amount of work.

[@brennanbarnes7628]

This was fantastic, entertaining, in-depth and well produced. 80's stars deserve more love. Can't wait for part 2!

[@The_Chewmiester]

Dave Stieb fits Dorktown perfectly…love that this player is getting covered. Stieb is one of the best pitchers of the 80s…he never got enough credit for that. Jon and Alex, thank you for covering this. Looking forward to the rest of this series.

[@jayballauer8353]

So pumped for another series...some of my favorite content on all of KZbin. Thanks so much. I never understood why Dave Stieb wasn't more highly regarded. He was an absolute stud and I'm glad you chose him for the series. He's definitely a guy that should be considered for the HoF by a future veteran's committee vote. He was that good...dominated a decade when there really weren't too many other pitchers who could say the same.

[@MrTheGadfly]

That was a wonderful video. I am really looking forward to part two. Stieb was totally a celebrity and hero in Toronto. I remember meeting him during a trip to visit kids at the Hospital for Sick Children in the early 80s. Such a great person to the community. I know how this all ends, with the ups and downs, but I am really still looking forward to it.

[@zacwhitehead8053]

Now I’m emotionally invested in the Mariners,falcons and now Dave Steib lol you got me again secret base got me again

[@christopheroliver9854]

This series on Dave Stieb is simply awesome. Very detailed, and the series deeply goes into the talent and the psyche of Stieb. Very well-done! Stieb was dominant in the 1980s...flawed? yes; outstanding? you bet. I hope that Stieb has had the opportunity to watch this. An excellent series on an outstanding player! Stieb was learning how to say "hello" when it was time to say "goodbye". Luckily, he had that last whirl in 1998. I was at SkyDome when he won his 1998 start...big lead, made it through five. I had tears! Sir David, Madman, Mossman...there was (and will ever be) only one Dave Stieb! Have to add: Loved the graphics, loved the articles, loved the passages from "Tomorrow I'll Be Perfect"!

[@messistl]

That intro credit scroll though??? 🔥🔥🔥

[@mauricewilson7116]

Alberto Bembo’s “Oblo”. I just tweeted him I love that he used that joint lol

[@killerjake602]

As someone who grew up around Southern Illinois University, I’m so ready to get invested in this. I’ve heard the name so much growing up but never dove into Stieb’s story. Turns out it is now time to do so.

[@MrDeano97]

Stieb’s 82 contract would have been 8 years 100 million easy in 2022. In 1982 they give him pennies and deny he’s their best player. Owners are losers and players union is awesome. Shout out stieb

[@hutonghustler5317]

As a life long blue jays fan I’m so happy you guys did this. I’ve always thought we have a few gem players that just never got their shine, and Steib as right at the top of the list. Roy Halliday also, but he at least is somewhat well known

[@hutonghustler5317]

Jimmy Key and Tony Fernandez also pretty great

[@PattyBandAidz]

I'm so glad you guys incorporated the Higginson Homer off of Doc...Bobby Higginson is from my neighborhood in Philly (Frankford) and this homerun was LEGENDARY for us as kids....little did we know that later on in life, we'd be absolutely BLESSED to have Doc as a Phillie and witness him not only get to complete a no-no (in the playoffs by the way) but also a perffy .... rest easy Doc 🙏

[@teen_laqueefa]

Against my Reds,it was one time I was actually rooting for the no-no ,not the Reds

[@88porpoise]

I have never cheered for a non-Jays team as much as I did for the Halladay's Phillies. And I am so disappointed that he never won a World Series. To me he is the epitome of what a pitcher should be. He was efficient, effective, did his job professionally, and didn't stir the pot. For the decade of the 2000s he was probably the best pitcher in the game.

[@teen_laqueefa]

@@88porpoise yeah, it's a shame he never won a ring. I haven't had a Reds team for years

[@MKPiatkowski]

Happy he got a playoff no-no, gutted it wasn't with us.

[@ryandarby3281]

These are the best KZbin videos ever please never stop making them

[@miradrgn]

god, as someone who's been dealing with RSIs and chronic pain for years, i'm heartbroken just hearing that this guy is about to go on to pitch 3 nearly back-to-back games right after having had a clearly pretty debilitating arm incident. it feels like i'm watching a horror movie and just yelling at the screen "no come on man don't do it it's not worth it" even though i know it's futile

[@MKPiatkowski]

It was. Understand that he carried the team on the road to greatness. His excellence was what inspired through those dark days. There was no way he wasn't pitching in the playoffs because he had earned it through years of sweat. To not let him would have destroyed him, I think.

[@deuce22baseball]

Going to need a playlist of the soundtrack for this. Jon strikes again

[@yappers2011]

I watched him pitch. Big guy, great sinker, tons of movement on all his pitches. Great pitcher in an era of Great pitchers.

[@paysonfox88]

It's the reason that people said that Roy Halladay was literally the second coming of Dave. The same exact kind of pitcher.... Lots of innings, lots of complete games, respectable earned run average, staff Ace, enough starts to earn wins no matter the run support. However, by 2003 Toronto had won a couple of world series and was not totally disrespected anymore. Dave took the hits so that Roy could get the reward. Roy halladays cy Young voting results are the minimum of what Dave should have had in the '80s.

[@dansanfrisco]

I wish I had you guys as math teachers when I was in school. I would have been so much more invested in learning about numbers, data points with diagrams and graph charts.

[@daifeichu]

Even though the Jays were not a good team in the early 80's I loved going to the games at the old Exhibition Stadium, especially on labour day. We use to buy the cheap seats and that would get you into the Ex for free. During that weekend there would be the airshow as well so some of the badass jets would be flying over the stadium during the game. I was sad they moved to the Skydome.

[@db-rc5fr]

Same sentiments. That 1982 team finished strong and was a sign of things to come. Miss those days of taking the street car from the Bathurst station to the Ex.

[@MKPiatkowski]

I lived within walking distance to the stadium so my dad would get cheap tickets and we'd sit in the outfield. So many memories of Exhibition Stadium.

[@jtsholtod.79]

Thanks for this gem! As a kid growing up in Southern Ontario in the 80s, I tried to emulate Stieb's pitching motion while slinging tennis balls against the front steps of our house. His leg kick was unique in that the lower leg swung up almost horizontally so you could see the bottom of his cleats before driving to the plate. He even did that leg whip motion out of the stretch, and I was always amazed that he could get so much velocity with it.

[@cybertronguy98]

i know Halladay retired with Toronto, but for me, he'll always be one of my favorite Phillies even with how relatively little time he spent here. I miss him, wish he didnt have to retire because of injury like he did, but that's Major League Sports for you. honestly, i didnt follow basketball up until this year (lets go Sixers), but hell everyone knew Kobe. Lakers fans obviously had it the hardest, but even as someone who didnt watch the sport at the time it was still surreal hearing that Kobe had died. felt a lot like those couple days in November with Roy, like you were constantly waiting for someone to turn the lights back on and yell surprise. RIP.

[@MKPiatkowski]

As a Jays fan, thank you for treating him so well. Gutted me to watch him finally get his no hitter with you. Had been waiting years for it. Happy he did get to the playoffs and dominated. What's coming next in the story was that we wanted the same thing for Dave. The two greatest pitchers in Jays history. That moment described at the beginning of this video was a sign at the time of the passing of the torch for us.

[@cybertronguy98]

@@MKPiatkowski it sucks so badly Philly couldnt recover after 2011, that ACL tear absolutely screwed us. really wanted Roy to win a Title here, but then again that whole roster deserved more than just '08. the Collapse episode from Secret Base on the post title Phillies hurts so bad, but at least the Eagles won the Super Bowl eventually, so the city got another one at least. Though, personally, im a Ravens fan but Philly for everything else, so im kind of in the middle of my own Super Bowl Drought. 2012 feels like a lifetime ago lol.

[@LBC1107]

Guys like Stieb never got noticed until Jay's won back to back. It's a shame. We are a Canadian team in a division with NY and Boston. Dave Stieb was my favorite Jay as a kid. Man was a beast.

[@FunkyHonkyCDXX]

If he doesn't get a no-hitter by the end of this I'm going to be absolutely devastated

[@the.seagull.35]

Whenever I sit down to watch a video by Jon, I feel this amazing sense of being in good hands. There are very few storytellers that give me the same feeling.

[@shltrev8998]

I have never heard of this man and I am ready to love him Update 4/12/2022: I love him.

[@marz2one]

I always knew this dude was special when i was watching that nasty hook move around Yankees hitters in the 80's. Ty for this deep dive, SB

[@colinready-evoy6014]

Thank you so much for giving Stieb so much love here. He’s still my all-time favourite Blue Jay!

[@ILoveMisty1985]

As a Royals fan I can't wait for Part 2. Anyways, thanks for the clear explanation of labor terms. Of course I couldn't have expected anything less from the person who called those that are anti-union "assholes."

[@stevencooke6451]

Stop that. The first year divisional rounds went to seven and your team goes on a magical run of seven game victories including the I-70 upset.

[@ralfs8447]

This is sooo brilliant! They could present yesterdays laundry list like this, and have me glued to the screen. But they don't! Instead, we get killer story lines, great analytics and this canvas method, which is above and beyond great. Can't wait for 2/4!

[@Hummabubba]

Little error at 35:53. That's not a quarter of 1%. That's a quarter of one tenth of 1%, even crazier.

[@danielyoutubechannel407]

This is possibly the best creative work ever made.

[@mikephelan5940]

Thank you so much for this amazing production. As a lifetime jays fan, baseball playing enthusiast and baseball dad, this is just fascinating

[@dieWeltkarte]

just wanna appreciate the stats visualisation. it's so beautiful and riveting

[@schnellarklight9024]

John Bois is the Martin Scorcese of niche sports and statistic based informational comedy videos

[@HooHickle]

Long time Secret base fan, and a life long Blue Jays fan. Fond memories of watching those Jays teams in the 80's. Could not have been more excited to see a Dorktown on Dave Stieb. Jesse Barfield's arm was a rocket, Tony Fernandez was beautiful to watch, and of course Dave was an under appreciated Beast by most everyone except the fans. Forgive the hometown bias. Keep up the great work SB!! Look forward to every drop.

[@905JimRaynor]

Do you remember the 'Reggie Sucks' game in the summer of 83?

[@Jaziem]

I can't wait to watch the other videos in this series. There's a reason why Dave Stieb is featured on the Level of Excellence at the Roger's Centre.

[@dominicktrageser]

Eerily timed release for this video. The generations of unbalanced power dynamics between MLB management and players shown with Steib and the Cy young on full display years later with this lockout

[@roeyburns7947]

Underrated

[@noturnleftunstoned72]

He's the best pitcher I have ever seen live. Incredible fire inside him.

[@JABS991]

At my local pub in Toronto chatting about Dave Steib to one dude - and Jon Bois (and how i miss his work) maybe an hour later. Then The planets *ALIGNED!*

[@michaellyga4726]

Sad that he’s hardly talked about. He had one of the highest pitching WAR of the 1980s

[@kevinhill6854]

I have paused the video to say this was the best intro yet. I had never heard of Stieb. I was watching thinking "I clicked on a vid about a guy named Stieb right? Why are they showing Roy?"

[@conedx]

god i love the story of the scout trashing his first pitching outing as meaningless against bad competition that he'll never be able to repeat, then immediately drafting him to be a pitcher.

[@elichilton7031]

Outstanding. Another excellent episode of Dorktown. Dave Stieb was one my favourite Jays pitchers of that era.

[@mikew6644]

Oh man!!! That intro was so good! Had my hyped throughout and then the ‘part 1 of 4’ at 5:19 just did it all!

[@kermitfrog593]

cant believe there's three more episodes

[@SUP3RTOM20000]

I feel like baseball just lends it's better to the long-form, poetic content you guys tend to put out.

[@woweezowee334]

I'm a Jays fan and have been since I was a kid. I'm nearly 40. I've lived in Toronto most of my life and I'm learning SO much stuff about Dave in this series that even die-hard Jays fans would never really be aware of. I had no idea the Baseball Writer's Association screwed up his career THIS much and so consistently. Reading those WAR stats he had vs the Cy Young winners is incomprehensible.

[@RetepAdam]

Wow, was that title sequence fantastic.