Jerry West's beef with the Lakers complicated his legendary history with a legendary franchise

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The great Jerry West is perhaps the definitive Laker -- a legend with a hand in building almost all of that franchise's glory. However, in his latter years, West developed a bit of a feud with Lakers management. The seeds of that beef were planted many years prior, but took a while to fully blossom. All told, it's a fascinating but pretty typical story for a franchise that ranks among history's greatest and among history's most complicated.
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@SecretBaseSBN
@SecretBaseSBN 3 ай бұрын
Well wishes to the family of Jerry West, who passed away at the age of 86 the day before this episode of Beef History published. This video was conceived and produced while West was still alive, but we hope it's helpful in contextualizing West's brilliant career and the end of his relationship with the Lakers. Rest in peace, Jerry.
@MosSoSoDef
@MosSoSoDef 3 ай бұрын
A better worded tribute than what the lakers put out
@johnmaring7056
@johnmaring7056 3 ай бұрын
🪦 NBA Logo. 💔😢😭💔 🪦⚰️🌹💐🕯️🕊️
@cabalenproductions6480
@cabalenproductions6480 3 ай бұрын
Dang in the Obit I saw that Jerry West was an NBA player for the Lakers. But then again his General Manager records basically made him more legendary as seen here RIP Jerry West.
@winstonchristopher3464
@winstonchristopher3464 3 ай бұрын
We don’t believe you, but sure. Rest in peace to the Logo
@Davivd2
@Davivd2 3 ай бұрын
The beef history with Phil Jackson and Jerry West goes deeper than the bosses daughter dating the coach. It had more to do with a specific incident. Both Jerry West and Phil Jackson are control freaks. Jackson wanted to have a closed door meeting with the team. Jerry West wanted to sit in on the meeting. Jackson wouldn't allow it. A heated argument took place and West wasn't backed by DR Buss on the issue.
@AidanK_
@AidanK_ 3 ай бұрын
Jerry West is an absolute legend and despite his beef with the lakers he died before having to see another Celtics title. A true laker till the end. RIP Logo
@CSDonohue11
@CSDonohue11 3 ай бұрын
Indeed Not a lakers fan whatsoever But The Logo is A True OG OOO G Legend
@rodneycooperjr3223
@rodneycooperjr3223 3 ай бұрын
Isn't it terrible that the word "legend" he's thrown around so often? Jerry West actually is a legend, but people literally use that word to describe guys like Jerry West, Salt Bae, or even... that bartender who makes a mean Moscow Mule. 🤦🏾‍♂️ Anyway, RIP to Jerry West.
@dnasty312
@dnasty312 3 ай бұрын
Celtics fan here. Jerry IMO is the greatest Laker of all
@dakineprotoss
@dakineprotoss 3 ай бұрын
he disowned the lakers after they shafted him. He wasn't a laker to the end, he was a clipper, because the lakers discarded him.
@Alex-tx2dh
@Alex-tx2dh 3 ай бұрын
@@dakineprotoss💀 idk much about basketball but for how upset Jerry West was at MANY lakers’ decisions he still cared deeply - and it was always after he’s discarded like a used condom. If that’s not love, idk what is.
@brianchua4240
@brianchua4240 3 ай бұрын
It's an absolute shame how the Buss family, especially the children mis-treated a man who built 2 dynasties for the Lakers.
@MarloSoBalJr
@MarloSoBalJr 3 ай бұрын
The "Child" cos Jim was a prodigy under Jerry, but Jeanie... 👀 (legs open)
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
@@MarloSoBalJr Calling Jim a prodigy is rich. In that same part SB goes over Jim being mentored by West they also go over him saying scouting is something anybody can do. He's also on record comparing evaluating players to evaluating horses and put his ego above the Lakers success or have we forgotten the saga with Phil Jackson potentially coming back and Jim going to D'Antoni instead right away after Phil asked for a day to consider it. Jeannie hasn't been great but acting like Jim was so much better is stupid and recency bias in full effect.
@rayd4974
@rayd4974 3 ай бұрын
@@MarloSoBalJr WIDE
@rayd4974
@rayd4974 3 ай бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigma Jeanie is a dumpster fire! Worst owner in the league hands down
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
@@rayd4974 There's *a lot* of terrible owners is this league Jeannie's far from the worst and that's more an indictment on the quality of owners in this league than anything else. Pistons, Hornets, Bulls, Wizards have been in purgatory for a long time and have we forgotten how terrible Dolan has been for the Knicks for the vast majority of his twenty five years of tenure?
@fireshadowblade9
@fireshadowblade9 3 ай бұрын
Lakers fans are rightfully calling out their organization for their quick, 5 word “tribute” to him. Even the Celtics gave a meaningful Bill Russell quote about their friendship 😢 RIP Mr. West
@johnkluge3421
@johnkluge3421 3 ай бұрын
West is more beloved in Boston, where he is held in awe by everyone associated with the Celtics, than he is by the current Lakers' franchise. That is f*cked up.
@luigivincenz3843
@luigivincenz3843 3 ай бұрын
the NBA had to relegate to Pat Riley for a tribute. That's why I hate the Lakers. Showtime Lakers with Magic and Worthy were my Lakers. Anything past that era, I dont care.
@HypocritesExposd
@HypocritesExposd 3 ай бұрын
@@luigivincenz3843you a real one unlike the bandwagon fans now who abandon ship as soon as their Lakers start losing and come right back when they’re winning.
@luigivincenz3843
@luigivincenz3843 3 ай бұрын
@@HypocritesExposd I go where Pat Riley went. Knicks to Heat. Lifelong decades long Heat fan. After what happened to the Kings v Lakers when they were scammed by the league/refs, I hated the Lakers more.
@HypocritesExposd
@HypocritesExposd 3 ай бұрын
@@luigivincenz3843 and people STILL deny when the league heavily favors the Lakers
@hipstereagle6050
@hipstereagle6050 3 ай бұрын
It says a lot that the Clippers provided more Jerry West tribute posts on social media than the Lakers
@diablejambe3460
@diablejambe3460 3 ай бұрын
Damn really? I mean ok, there were some bad times between him and the franchise but thats just foul on the lakers' part.
@hipstereagle6050
@hipstereagle6050 3 ай бұрын
@@diablejambe3460 yeah the lakers had 1 insta post with 10 Jerry west pics. The clippers had 4 posts with extended quotes from the owner GM and coach. Magic Johnson alone had a better 10 pic tribute and extended text on his insta
@hamiham32
@hamiham32 3 ай бұрын
​@diablejambe3460 not surprised by the ownership of the lakers.
@FF18Cloud
@FF18Cloud 3 ай бұрын
But that's social media I get it's 2024 but if we're overly taking one team posting less about a guy than another, that's just grasping at straws to get something to fill a narrative that, let's be real, is too overblown and being used for our own personal entertainment To even bring up the notion is distasteful, doesn't matter if there is truth or not to the matter.
@skipperknappen9222
@skipperknappen9222 3 ай бұрын
​@@FF18Cloud very well said
@Rand0mContnt
@Rand0mContnt 3 ай бұрын
Jerry West may not be the greatest Laker ever, but he’s the most important Laker ever.
@lamarbenavides1934
@lamarbenavides1934 3 ай бұрын
AMEN🙏🏾
@Alittlebitsour6
@Alittlebitsour6 3 ай бұрын
9
@bokstar030
@bokstar030 3 ай бұрын
Hell no, magic, kobe, kareem
@Riles3152
@Riles3152 3 ай бұрын
@@bokstar030 There would be no Magic, Kareem or especially Kobe in LA, if not for Jerry West, making the decision to get them. So yes, Jerry West is the most important Laker of all time, because he’s literally had his hands on 2 different Laker dynasties.
@radioactivehands
@radioactivehands 3 ай бұрын
He is the greatest, he is responsible for most championships
@harrisonlee9585
@harrisonlee9585 3 ай бұрын
RIP to The Logo, but you have to applaud him saying "I'd rather wrap it all up than watch the Celtics win another."
@turtle19dad
@turtle19dad 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. #BostonSucks #LakerNation
@TheMightyTak
@TheMightyTak 3 ай бұрын
i swear he saw they were up in the finals and just said "nope. seeya"
@channelneo7519
@channelneo7519 3 ай бұрын
yep. He said Lakers and Celtics are tied and that's how I'm leaving it.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
F*ck Boston.
@NewGoldie
@NewGoldie 3 ай бұрын
I'm not ashamed to say this was my first thought after seeing he passed.
@joesabbers2042
@joesabbers2042 3 ай бұрын
Insane timing with this video RIP Jerry West, an absolute legend and icon
@michaelknowlton1231
@michaelknowlton1231 3 ай бұрын
Ikr 😂 was like dayym
@keexko
@keexko 3 ай бұрын
It's distasteful that they did this 24 hours after he passed.
@1aml3g3nd13
@1aml3g3nd13 3 ай бұрын
@@keexkoplease clutch those pearls harder.
@keexko
@keexko 3 ай бұрын
@@1aml3g3nd13 people used to have consideration, empathy and class when dealing with someone's passing. I thought that's common sense but I guess that's on me that I expected too much.
@tabletuser123
@tabletuser123 3 ай бұрын
These videos take FAR more than 24 hours of work to put together pls use ur brain lol
@KristopherArcher-xy4ss
@KristopherArcher-xy4ss 3 ай бұрын
Can’t believe they left out the Gasol for Kwame trade. Kobe asked for his help and he gave it to them, literally.
@GeneralBulldog54
@GeneralBulldog54 3 ай бұрын
Didn’t even think about the Grizzlies-Lakers connection with West and the Gasol brothers (Marc’s rights along with Kwame were traded to Memphis in exchange for then rising star Pau).
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
West was no longer with the Grizzlies when the trade was made. The only trade from that era where a former player "gifted" their old team a star was McHale "gifting" the Celtics KG.
@johndebono1870
@johndebono1870 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, West had already left the Grizzles by the time the Pau trade happened, but I feel confident the Lakers would have had to give up much more if West wasn't connected to that team (And remember that if Memphis knew Marc was going to be a future DPOY, they would have never drafted Thabeet 2nd a year later).
@TheKapei22
@TheKapei22 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't Grizzlies shopping Gasol to tank and rebuild?
@thomassharer8453
@thomassharer8453 3 ай бұрын
Considering Kwame’s expiring contract allowed The Grizzlies to sign Zach Randolph, plus obviously Marc Gasol, I think it was a savvy move, plus Jerry is on record saying he was not actually part of the Grizzlies organization at that time of the trade
@soloistdeve
@soloistdeve 3 ай бұрын
Oldest story in human history. A man builds an empire with grit, hard work, and talent. Naturally, he dies. Spoiled kids destroy everything he built. The Lakers we know and love is dead and buried after Jerry Buss and Jerry West. RIP to both legends.
@bartsullivan4866
@bartsullivan4866 3 ай бұрын
Happens to most successful franchises.
@nvmfirezactaylor6035
@nvmfirezactaylor6035 2 ай бұрын
Yankees
@ca3630
@ca3630 3 ай бұрын
Dropping this right after the Lakers put out that flash card statement for him, smart.
@Zeshan-u9t
@Zeshan-u9t 3 ай бұрын
I became a fan of the Lakers because of Jerry and Elgin, and that statement almost makes me wish I had picked another team.
@LiquidMetalMover
@LiquidMetalMover 3 ай бұрын
@@Zeshan-u9tHow old are you? Lmao
@pokehybridtrainer
@pokehybridtrainer 3 ай бұрын
I mean, no wonder she is the face of the Lakers on the title card.
@davidblack1639
@davidblack1639 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@Zeshan-u9tElgin is one of the most underrated players in nba history imo
@Zeshan-u9t
@Zeshan-u9t 3 ай бұрын
@davidblack1639 I've been saying this for almost 2 years now. Thanks for agreeing.
@ShiningLike3M
@ShiningLike3M 3 ай бұрын
The only player to win FMVP without winning the chip. A true competitor. RIP Logo!
@HypocritesExposd
@HypocritesExposd 3 ай бұрын
I did not know that. That’s wild.
@kya1260am
@kya1260am 3 ай бұрын
that's correct. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell did Andre Iguodala won finals MVP over LeBron?
@tutoy2toy665
@tutoy2toy665 3 ай бұрын
​​@@kya1260am lebron could have been the second smh
@oof3479
@oof3479 3 ай бұрын
@@kya1260amYou mean Steph
@MarkoLiu
@MarkoLiu 3 ай бұрын
@@oof3479What are you talking about
@austinemms9772
@austinemms9772 3 ай бұрын
What a way to honour a Lakers legend by talking about his history and legacy with his team. RIP To The Logo, Jerry West!
@cameronmowat6638
@cameronmowat6638 3 ай бұрын
Can we talk about how badly the lakers have been run since 2013? Jeanie Buss has successfully alienated their greatest gm and one of their greatest players, as well as debatably their best player in Magic. It’s disgusting how they treat legends who built up the franchise
@ceebee312
@ceebee312 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like every corporate office in ‘Merica… Dust out the old, who laid a solid foundation, and in with idiots
@andw1977
@andw1977 3 ай бұрын
It’s LA Brons now, he runs all there.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
Magic? You mean when he suddenly quit as GM without any warning blindsiding everyone? That was kinda shitty of him to do. From what I remember his issue was with Pelinka being a snake more than anyone else. He wasn't a good GM anyway made some dumb moves(letting Lopez walk when he wanted to come back, gifting the Clippers Zubac, buying into the Ball hype etc)and wasn't totally committed to the job with all his many other ventures he had to worry about. The real mistake was not bringing West back right then and there and mending that bridge instead letting him go to the f*cking Clippers.
@givant
@givant 3 ай бұрын
@@CrazyxEnigmayup, stupidity gets you into trouble, pride keeps you in there.. The Lakers FO has been both lately
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
@@givant Ain't that the truth. LeBron coming here is the only reason we still aren't in basketball purgatory.
@Xavier_Breaking_Bad
@Xavier_Breaking_Bad 3 ай бұрын
As a Lakers Fan I wasn't that aware of how deep and toxic the beef had gotten. It's so tragic because the Lakers franchise owes Jerry West for so much of their historic dominance. R.I.P to an O.G, a forward thinker, a Legend, he seemed like a great man.
@10mmMemph
@10mmMemph 3 ай бұрын
Don't disrespect the LEGEND.... THE LOGO. TRULY UNDERRATED... 26 a game... All from deep... No 3 point line... Not to mention the GREATEST sports executive in any era...
@nysockexchange2204
@nysockexchange2204 3 ай бұрын
Small correction, The LOGO averaged 27 PPG (not 26) and 29 PPG in the playoffs. Incredibly, he averaged 40.6 PPG through 11 playoff games in the 1964-65 season. Also a 5X All-Defensive point guard. They didn't keep track of steals back then but Lakers scorekeeper John Radcliffe said that if steal stats had been kept for West’s career, he would easily be the league’s all-time leader. "In his prime, there were many nights where he registered 6 or more steals, and many other nights where he had more than 10, explained Radcliffe, who closely observed nearly every home game that West ever played."
@tim.noonan
@tim.noonan 3 ай бұрын
Lakers really embody the West Coast ‘Nice but Not Kind’ energy. If they were anywhere else but LA Jeanie would’ve been forced to sell the team by now.
@thesenate5913
@thesenate5913 3 ай бұрын
Jeanie leaving out Jerry West in her top 5 laker players is just absolutely ridiculous.
@juiceman_3
@juiceman_3 3 ай бұрын
West was literally the glue keeping the Lakers together. The Buss family fell into success
@dynad00d15
@dynad00d15 3 ай бұрын
Its sad to see a franchise discard their alumnis like this. Now, it's too late to repair the damage this beef has done. RIP Mr. West.
@Marjoss1
@Marjoss1 3 ай бұрын
I love all the videos y’all put out, but I’m gonna have to wait to watch this one. I’m a lifelong lakers fan and Jerry West was a hugely inspirational figure to me and it breaks my heart knowing the Lakers did him so dirty. RIP to the logo.
@RobertJW
@RobertJW 3 ай бұрын
Jerry's loss is very fresh. Come back in your own time, when you're good and ready to watch this video!
@eastsidereviews727
@eastsidereviews727 3 ай бұрын
Jerry West, the Logo. Man was a legend as a player but is probably better as a team builder. Man helped assemble 3 Dynasties, that is insane! RIP.
@eijiniizuma6184
@eijiniizuma6184 2 ай бұрын
If the Grizzlies had won the 2003 lottery it would've been 4 dynasties.
@christiancoates609
@christiancoates609 3 ай бұрын
Putting LeBron on her top 5 Lakers instead of Jerry West is just spiteful.
@marcusmosiahgarveysr4310
@marcusmosiahgarveysr4310 3 ай бұрын
Actually, she could've put a bunch of Lakers in her top 5 over LeBron.
@ChryskylodonInstitute
@ChryskylodonInstitute 3 ай бұрын
LeBron is ungodly good player but West should’ve been in that 5
@treazzzn1255
@treazzzn1255 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@marcusmosiahgarveysr4310a bunch as in how many? list names
@felps1917
@felps1917 3 ай бұрын
Michael Cooper "Big Shot" Bob Horry George Mikan James Worthy Elgin Baylor
@treazzzn1255
@treazzzn1255 3 ай бұрын
@@felps1917 “robert horry” “michael cooper”😭😭
@iAintSayDat
@iAintSayDat 3 ай бұрын
My dad is from California. When West left the Lakers he was sure they were going to go through a rough patch. They didn’t immediately but later on watching West help build the Warriors stunk for Laker fans.
@gambitacio
@gambitacio 3 ай бұрын
He also built the Grizzlies too or at least set the foundation for it.
@eboooo
@eboooo 3 ай бұрын
Oh right after he left they began to lose, they still had Shaq and Kobe but the pieces around them were not the same quality at all.
@iAintSayDat
@iAintSayDat 3 ай бұрын
@@eboooo West coulda been a peace maker both Shaq and Kobe respected great players
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
@@iAintSayDat I doubt West being there changes much as far as that goes. As much attention gets put on Shaq and Kobe hating each other it was also about money Shaq wanted a huge contract, more than what Dr.Buss thought he was worth. Shaq declined sharply just a couple years later and was never consistently healthy after the 05 season, apart from one year in 09, so he was proven right in that respect.
@cooper2132
@cooper2132 3 ай бұрын
@@eboooo wrong. west left in 2000. Lakers went on to go to 3 more finals and win 2
@oommaarriiss
@oommaarriiss 3 ай бұрын
What a week for the lakers. Getting played by Dan Hurley, Celtics winning a title and RIP Jerry West.
@TheGameCube64Guy
@TheGameCube64Guy 3 ай бұрын
Lakers fans experiencing a nightmare like no other
@KWCline91
@KWCline91 3 ай бұрын
Celtics haven’t won it yet. But it would add insult to injury.
@albertmendez2262
@albertmendez2262 3 ай бұрын
@@KWCline91They’re up 3-0, it’s virtually guaranteed
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 3 ай бұрын
@@TheGameCube64Guy Im done with basketball , it's hell and death outhere
@KWCline91
@KWCline91 3 ай бұрын
@@albertmendez2262 one day, somebody will overcome a 3-0 deficit to win. Probably not this year, but it will happen.
@foramoreperfectamerica8490
@foramoreperfectamerica8490 3 ай бұрын
When West worked for The Warriors he stopped a trade that would have sent Klay Thompson to Minnesota for Kevin Love. I think that was a wise decision as I'm not sure we would have won titles without Klay.
@hectorirene763
@hectorirene763 3 ай бұрын
I remember that. That would have happened and the Warriors are not a dynasty.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
He threatened to resign if they did the trade, he's done that a few times over his executive career. Another example is after the Lakers lost to Houston in 86 Dr. Buss had been looking into a "upgrade" that would send James Worthy to Dallas in exchange for Mark Aguirre and Roy Taperly. West got pissed when he learned about it and threatened to resign if they did the trade and good thing to since Worthy was so important, all the Lakers needed was a better backup Center which they got in Mychal Thompson and won two more titles.
@jasonnelson6624
@jasonnelson6624 3 ай бұрын
Turns out the klay trade was extremely exaggerated. The were not even close to trading for love. In fact the majority wanted klay. I know Stephen A Smith was one of the people claiming Jerry West stopped the trade. But Bob Myers and others have said it wasn't true. Jerry West was responsible for convincing Kd.
@Tay04723
@Tay04723 3 ай бұрын
And he traded pau gasol for Marc gasol and he the reason kawhi chose clippers over lakers
@Amm17ar
@Amm17ar 3 ай бұрын
RIP Jerry West. You may be gone, but your silhouette will cast its shadow on the NBA and world forever. NBA Champion. Dynasty Builder. Legend. RIP Bill Walton. What they say is true about Champions, your name will be etched in history. You own a place in Celtics history, and a mantle that so many greats before and after you have stood on. MVP. NBA Champion. Legend. The NBAs lost a lot in the past few years, and as the years go by, we move further away from their contributions to the league. But its important to remember a building cant stand without its foundations. You need a strong foundation to hold the load that's ever expanding. To all the the places the NBA will go, its on the shoulders of giants. Well miss them both, but they wont ever be forgotten. Thats all you can do in life. I believe you only die when you're forgotten. Needless to say, these two and every one that has passed, or will pass, wont be.
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 3 ай бұрын
It must really sad sight to see a guy who spent his entire 14-year career with one franchise have a beef with that same franchise and this served as a precursor to Scottie Pippen's beef with the Chicago Bulls years later. RIP Logo.
@1124-w9d
@1124-w9d 3 ай бұрын
This is possibly worse, i think. The bulls quarrel with Pip was solely for the money, and their management was famously cheap. They were like that to everyone except Jordan, and that was because he was far too valuable. The beef lasted from when Pip's value overgrew his contract until 98, which is like 6 or 7 years. Bulls didn't really beef with Pip after that. But Lakers consistently undermining West throughout his career is pretty nasty. And the guy was a Laker for life. Pip actually delayed getting a surgery until the 97-98 season begin because of his grudge with the management, and he ended up getting big bucks elsewhere. But West stayed with the franchise for decades until he finally gave up. I'm not saying what Bulls did to Pip was OK, but I think it's extra wrong when a guy as loyal to the franchise as West, a guy nicknamed 'the logo' gets this kind of treatment.
@mdarrenu
@mdarrenu 3 ай бұрын
happens alot in all industries
@GolfGod954
@GolfGod954 3 ай бұрын
Not even a little bit similar, but ok
@ShadowThe771
@ShadowThe771 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a sports franchise been at odds with one of their legends since the Cowboys and Jimmy Johnson.
@ultrustic
@ultrustic 3 ай бұрын
What about Hakeem Olajuwon with the Rockets? Vince Carter with Raptors? Speaking of football, Calvin Johnson & Barry Sanders with the Lions? Those are legendary and more recent too.
@mjisthegoat88
@mjisthegoat88 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@ultrustictom landry and the cowboys too. his widow said his shabby treatment by jerry jones led to landry “renewing his love for the giants” and rooting for them for the rest of his life.
@felps1917
@felps1917 3 ай бұрын
What about Pippen and the Bulls
@elliemyers6435
@elliemyers6435 3 ай бұрын
The man that brought Kobe to the Lakers...Immediately, from the first time he saw him work out as a 17 year old, said that he was the best player in that 1996 draft and would eventually be the perfect fit next to Shaq...Just a true genius who had SUCH an eye for talent. I read Jeff Pearlman's book about the Shaq/Kobe Lakers which goes into a lot of this, and apparently, Phil Jackson was just such an A**hole to Jerry West, and treated him like the bottom of his shoe, which is sad. It's a shame that a franchise that Jerry West gave literally everything to, ended in beef.
@drew9597
@drew9597 3 ай бұрын
This is a beef I've been waiting on for a while to discuss. It's too bad Jerry is going to his grave knowing that a ownership under appreciated and under valued his importance and influence for all he did for that franchise and made it for what history it currently has, and took it all for granted. What a shame honestly. He didn't deserve that
@RudySchmidt10
@RudySchmidt10 3 ай бұрын
No wonder Dan Hurley chose to stay at UConn...
@susanstamboulian646
@susanstamboulian646 2 ай бұрын
And it was a great choice.
@samortmann5003
@samortmann5003 3 ай бұрын
It was really disappointing to see the Lakers only posting a paragraph statement on their website when he passed after all he did for that franchise. It could have been an opportunity to put the conflict to rest and they just wasted it.
@gambitacio
@gambitacio 3 ай бұрын
What did you expect from a woman?
@Chalk89
@Chalk89 3 ай бұрын
The Buss kids are one of the million reasons why I hate nepotism.
@whodidit99
@whodidit99 3 ай бұрын
The two younger sons are a great asset in the scouting department. It's Jim and Jeanie who destroyed the Lakers legacy.
@peytonlaporte7800
@peytonlaporte7800 3 ай бұрын
Idk if y’all already were cooking this vid up before but if not the production time is unreal
@hikikomori_3708
@hikikomori_3708 3 ай бұрын
There's no way they put this together in two days so it's really just insane timing
@JonSmith-hk1bq
@JonSmith-hk1bq 3 ай бұрын
@@hikikomori_3708 More likely they have a pipeline of videos and this one was in the queue. When West passed away, they hit "publish".
@hikikomori_3708
@hikikomori_3708 3 ай бұрын
@@JonSmith-hk1bq Yeah that's probably what happened
@Porthos240
@Porthos240 3 ай бұрын
I knew it was anything but rosy, but man, looking at it like this, it's a well done to roast beef. But knowing he got to where he did despite his burnout and depression. There's some hope. May he finally, properly RestIP.
@KWCline91
@KWCline91 3 ай бұрын
Not a Lakers fan, but it’s real tragedy that the wicked witch of the west (Jeanie Buss) decides to alienate the most important Laker (not the greatest) and the the most signifcant NBA person after all he did. Jerry West will always win this beef even if the current Lakers management doesn’t acknowledge it.
@MrAxidol
@MrAxidol 3 ай бұрын
You should’ve added the part Rob Pelinka, Kobe called for a meeting with West to discuss Kobe wanting to play in Memphis
@nardnard1204
@nardnard1204 3 ай бұрын
It's disheartening to see that the Clippers gave much more care about Mr. West's passing than the Lakers. Felt they were just obligated to do so. Rest in peace to Mr. Jerry West.
@timmyhortonSZN
@timmyhortonSZN 3 ай бұрын
Jeanne buss downfall i’m here for it
@MetalGod999
@MetalGod999 3 ай бұрын
You know, you could make a case that the Los Angeles Lakers are the biggest soap opera in all of Hollywood. Forget about your TV soap operas (Days of Our Lives, General Hospital, The Young and the Restless). The Lakers have been one big long-running soap opera ever since they planted their roots in L.A. I’m amazed that Jerry West was able to tolerate all that drama for so long. P.S. Jerry West was one of the greatest legends in NBA history. Both as a player and executive. Jerry, thank you for all you did for basketball. 💜💛🏀
@jopalm3649
@jopalm3649 3 ай бұрын
The case was already made by HBO.
@MetalGod999
@MetalGod999 3 ай бұрын
@@jopalm3649, that is SO true!
@christmashake8968
@christmashake8968 3 ай бұрын
They would have more Daytime Emmys than General Hospital at this rate, if they were. XD
@MetalGod999
@MetalGod999 3 ай бұрын
@@christmashake8968, you can say THAT again! 😆😆
@whobitmyname
@whobitmyname 3 ай бұрын
Secret Base: your home for insanely timed videos.
@滋榎本
@滋榎本 3 ай бұрын
Jerry West lived a profound basketball and American life - iconic as a player, executive and looming figure in the history of the game. He was an MVP, a champion, a gold medalist, a dynasty-builder and literally the league’s logo. West ended his playing career with 14 All-Star, 12 All-NBA Team and five All-Defensive Team selections, and scored 25,192 points, 6,238 assists and 5,366 rebounds in 932 games, translating to an average of 27.0 points, 6.7 assists and 5.8 rebounds per game. After retiring in 1974, West transitioned into a successful executive role, shaping the Lakers' dominance through strategic draft picks and trades. His tenure as general manager saw the Lakers capture multiple championships in the 1980s and early 2000s.
@RobLove-lf6dt
@RobLove-lf6dt 3 ай бұрын
OK so single handily Jerry West turns around the Lakers - all by himself. That was after he became a true SUPER STAR playing guard for lakers for 14 years. Then in comes Phil Jackson who was the right coach at the right time but Phil then decides he wants to sleep with the Lakers's owners daughter. This is called "Dipping Your Pen in Company Ink". One thing West isn't is dumb. He can see the writing on the wall. Jackson coaches team and then.plays house with Jerry Buss daughter. Pure power play, thus leaving West no choice but to leave. Phil has and EGO the size Blue Whale and Jeanie Buss is someone who strips first and thinks later. West ranks all time top 5 guards, if not top three. He ranks number one and NBA general manager. West is the Lakers but alas with air head Jeanie running Lakers - the Lakers are no longer Jerry West's best memories. Sad because this guy was wall ALL CLASS.
@ivaneurope
@ivaneurope 3 ай бұрын
Jeannie Buss is a prime example of a nepo-baby
@agoo7581
@agoo7581 3 ай бұрын
She probably goes around the country doing TED talks about how she "worked hard to get to where I am", and complains about food stamps to her colleagues.
@b8man88
@b8man88 3 ай бұрын
Well this explains alot. RIP Jerry. I really do miss having you around LA. My man did all the work while everyone else got to play smh
@itiscujo
@itiscujo 3 ай бұрын
Wow, Jeanne seams like a real Bonnie hunt
@mrf19741
@mrf19741 3 ай бұрын
The fact that other NBA teams showed more attention & respect to Jerry West's passing than the Lakers shows how far that once proud organization has fallen. Jerry West was a Lifelong Laker who was primarily instrumental in building their championship dynasties in the 80's and early 2000s. They should be ashamed of themselves. Leaving him off the top 5 Lakers list off All-time and putting LeBron on it was a real slap in the face.
@susanstamboulian646
@susanstamboulian646 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. This franchise has become a complete joke. It was already starting, but really accelerated after The Fraud King took his talents to LA. Now, they are just a clown show.
@JayBee23417
@JayBee23417 3 ай бұрын
Jerry West legacy is set for life. No matter what the Lakers franchise didn't do, they will never be able to take away this legend's achievements. Its a shame they treated him as they did, and maybe thats why they are the most hated franchise in NBA hustory.
@stefanoroberti
@stefanoroberti 3 ай бұрын
I hear Seth, I watch. Seth's passion and enthusiasm in storytelling is the reason I'm subscribed. Keep doing what you do!
@jr.3308
@jr.3308 3 ай бұрын
Watch Jeanie Buss roll out the Jerry West tributes next year at Crypto Arena and make bank. All this appreciation for him when he's gone and none when he was alive. Jeanie is an embarrassment to her father's legacy.
@elvistwatty
@elvistwatty 3 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video?
@lamarbenavides1934
@lamarbenavides1934 3 ай бұрын
That is so so true. I hate those posthumously awards or comments - damn it say it, do it, show it when they’re alive for goodness sake. Jeanie, Rob and all the other bozo’s up in Management should be shipped off to Siberia or the Ukraine. What they did or maybe what they DIDN’T say is just as bad as JJ saying Bob Cousy played against Fireman / tradesmen, policemen…..NO RESPECT. NO CLASS. NO BRAINS. With comments like that, though his basketball IQ may be high, his character, his personality, his integrity are LIGHT YEARS BEHIND!
@y2shuproblem
@y2shuproblem 3 ай бұрын
Dr. Buss wasn't much better towards the end of West's tenure as GM
@mrslabbulkhead
@mrslabbulkhead 3 ай бұрын
Considering the Lakers did a one sentence statement on his death that had a vibe of "We are glad he's dead", I honestly wouldn't be shocked if they only do a 2 second tribute video and then act like he never existed.
@jakestanley52
@jakestanley52 3 ай бұрын
"The technical term is 'beefsosceles.'" This man Seth, I tell you
@Bobbysf92
@Bobbysf92 3 ай бұрын
Absolute piece of a man! RIP legend!
@trueempire8948
@trueempire8948 3 ай бұрын
He was a all time great player and great executive (Not to mention hes the logo) who helped create two dynasties 80s showtime Lakers with Magic and Kareem and the Shaq and Kobe Lakers late 90s to 00s. NBA legend
@drakevick1646
@drakevick1646 3 ай бұрын
I hate where the Lakers have gone since Jerry Buss died in 2013. It’s a completely different franchise from the one we know and love. Seven coaches since then, inconsistent teams, celebrating non championship banners; what happened to the Lakers, bro?
@HighWoody
@HighWoody 3 ай бұрын
Management
@turtle19dad
@turtle19dad 3 ай бұрын
I hate to say it. We need to Trade Lebron and “Street Clothes” Davis and get some picks. Get some young talent. Where’s Jalen Hood-Schifino?
@JonSmith-hk1bq
@JonSmith-hk1bq 3 ай бұрын
@@turtle19dad The internet sure has a lot of ideas about how the Lakers can become irrelevant again like they were post-Kobe. Lebron and Davis both just put together healthy and productive seasons. They're not the problem. Frankly, their biggest problem last year was awful coaching.
@AJRAOfficial
@AJRAOfficial 3 ай бұрын
Lebron happened how can you build chemistry if your constantly changing roasters
@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705
@masterchiefwasdonedirty9705 3 ай бұрын
​@JonSmith-hk1bq No coach worth a damn is going to want to coach this clownshow of an organization. Hate to say it, but the Lakers may have to settle for the awful JJ Reddick
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 3 ай бұрын
As.a warrios fan, I was elated when west broke off relations with the Lakers. Even more elated when he became a consultant to the dubs and helped them become a championship winning franchise. One of the greatest players to have ever played the game and one of tge greatest executives He had no reason to be humble, but he was. Overcame a horrific childhood and pushed himself to excellence till his last day on tge planet. A life well lived
@BlancThumper
@BlancThumper 3 ай бұрын
Honestly Jeanie Buss taking over was probably the worst thing to ever happen to the Lakers Brand and destroying their reputation as a whole
@BLACKNINJAXX
@BLACKNINJAXX 3 ай бұрын
Facts
@greenmanalishi6963
@greenmanalishi6963 3 ай бұрын
Women shouldn’t be in charge of any operations. Or vote. They’re too emotional and have narcissistic tendencies
@meherenow793
@meherenow793 3 ай бұрын
yep
@kkiat424
@kkiat424 3 ай бұрын
As a Warriors fan, I'm forever grateful with the Great Jerry West for the foundation that he built for us, eventually turn into a basketball dynasty. Thank u Sir, RIP 😢
@_CoachW
@_CoachW 3 ай бұрын
This is truly a beautiful story of beef. Just my opinion, and the timing of it as well. Wow.
@RyanLBrown9396
@RyanLBrown9396 3 ай бұрын
Jerry called Jeanie out for spreading her playboy legs open for a coach and she carried a grudge
@gambitacio
@gambitacio 3 ай бұрын
She still spreading it.
@bernier42
@bernier42 3 ай бұрын
Damn y’all are quick.
@dre32pitt
@dre32pitt 3 ай бұрын
Nah.. im pretty sure SB has voodoo magic powers now.. They know when sports legends, at least NBA ones, are gonna pass..
@0-Elias-0
@0-Elias-0 3 ай бұрын
P sure they made this video a long time ago. Whereby they only hosted it on their own website (for paid/subscribed consumption). Then *they decided* to publish it here (for free/public consumption); doing so due to recent events.
@maxsleek7532
@maxsleek7532 3 ай бұрын
The back-to-back T-Mobile Suits ads are quickly becoming synonymous with Secret Base, which might be annoying to some but I think it's funny. I don't care how many times I have to hear "Ayuhyuhyuhyuhyuh" if I'm getting this much content.
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 3 ай бұрын
Except for sponsorships, ads are determined by KZbin's algorithm. So basically Google thinks that you're willing to change phone plans. Remember that whatever you watch, search for or listen to on your phone, Google is keeping data on you
@connortracy1217
@connortracy1217 3 ай бұрын
“for tensions to aflame anew” is some goddamn poetry, fr
@rasskall-aka-Luke_A.
@rasskall-aka-Luke_A. 3 ай бұрын
RIP Logo. Condolences to the West family. Truly sad that things ended in this way, especially with the pettiness of Jeanie Buss.
@michaelmathias3277
@michaelmathias3277 3 ай бұрын
Still waiting for that witch to acknowledge his greatness and role in the Lakers' success.
@TBCLINQ
@TBCLINQ 3 ай бұрын
Great timing on the video release ! Wish all the best from Jerry West , in Heavens RIP .
@DirtySouth-om7zj
@DirtySouth-om7zj 3 ай бұрын
Jeanie Bust and the Rambis couple drove the Lakers into the ground. Also shout out PJax and his smugness
@derekneaz-nibur407
@derekneaz-nibur407 3 ай бұрын
This video gets a like for the phrase “beef-sosceles,” on its own. Fantastic video as always Seth and RIP Jerry West
@cs1458
@cs1458 3 ай бұрын
Sending this video to my HS geometry teacher who told me there is no such thing as beefsosceles.
@njmksr8686
@njmksr8686 3 ай бұрын
Rest in peace Mr. West. Incredible competitor. I never want to see the Lakers win, but he sure made it happen a lot. What incredible contributions to the game. Respect.
@charlesellenberger8067
@charlesellenberger8067 3 ай бұрын
Jerry West was the most important Laker ever, and ever since the ownership started to treat him with disrespect, the Lakers have struggled and are struggling still. Kobie and Shaq both requested Jerry return because they felt his loss and knew he had the right stuff to turn things around. Sadly Jennie Buss is no Jerry Buss and that is why the Lakers best days are a thing of the past.
@tonyoctopus044
@tonyoctopus044 3 ай бұрын
Rip Jerry West truly a dynamic 3 peat Happy Mens mental Health month 🙏🏻
@lamarbenavides1934
@lamarbenavides1934 3 ай бұрын
Firstly, sincere condolences 🙏🏾❤️ to Karen West and the entire West family. Secondly, I became a Lakers following their 1969 defeat at the hands of “that team in green”….and instantly began to hate them until now with a PASSION. Of any, team in any sport, I can’t stand nor ever will stand the Celtics! As a 14 year old, I saw the first preseason game in Honolulu between the Lakers and the Bucks. West & Wilt vs Jabbar and Oscar. Epic. I loved the Lakers and Jerry Mr.Clutch West. Over the decades, I’ve seen the Showtime Lakers, the Kobe & Shaq Lakers, even the LeBron Lakers play live……but what hurts me the most is the the team……the ONLY NBA Team I support, blatantly disrespect the Logo, the Legend, the Complete Laker, Mr. Clutch - the late Jerry West. The way they treated him makes me want to puke and start supporting anyone else, even the sick Celtics. The Buss family will have a lot of questions to answer for. Jerry West’ passing this week will bring to light and the forefront just how sickening and absolute PATHETIC the Buss Family really are! To not have taken care of the Logo for his tireless commitment and dedication for over 40 years to the Lakers organisation IS REALLY CHEAP and NO CLASS! Downright PATHETIC. I for one, would love to see someone else ( with real class and REAL MONEY) BUY the Lakers Team and start respecting the coaches and staff, and players by really valuing their contributions, pay them their worth and appreciate and treat them like other teams around the league do! I also believe, Mr Clutch will have the last laugh, where He is going, Jerry Buss can only hope to go. Not saying The Logo was perfect or a saint, but he treated people with respect, showed gratitude, kindness, empathy and love. Buss family all about power and wealth…..can’t take that stuff to heaven. REST IN ALOHA Mr. Jerry West🙏🏾❤️🤙🏾.
@bradt1151
@bradt1151 3 ай бұрын
It’s a damn shame how things ended between Jerry and the Lakers, he should’ve been treated and respected like the Laker legend he is. Such a brilliant mind for the game alienated by some of the worst ownership. At least Dr. Buss got results with his mess, Jeanie’s tenure has been one of the worst in Laker history.
@sdelmonte
@sdelmonte 3 ай бұрын
An honest assessment of a man who was both a legend of legends and a mere mortal like the rest of us. A good way to remember him. Not surprised at yet another Beef History that makes Phil Jackson look like a buffoon.
@antoinefleming9869
@antoinefleming9869 3 ай бұрын
Secret Base, please edit the video offering condolences on Jerry West’s passing. Yall are the best. Fantastic video!
@hectorirene763
@hectorirene763 3 ай бұрын
And now they have LeGM and Klutch holding a once storied franchise by the balls. How far have the Lakers fallen.
@Trogani
@Trogani 3 ай бұрын
Can we have a deep dive into how fawking goated Jerry West is… everything that dude touches turns to gold. The greatest NBA career (including post-playing years) ever.
@thelameg6
@thelameg6 3 ай бұрын
rip jerry. the logo lives on
@GavinusMaximusMaster
@GavinusMaximusMaster 3 ай бұрын
So what I'm hearing is that Jerry West is the front office GOAT. Dude assembled the most important rebuilds of the last 50 years of the NBA. Besides his great career as a player he really earned that logo.
@aznsensation44
@aznsensation44 3 ай бұрын
It's a travesty that Winning Time the HBO show portrayed him as this grouchy crazy sex addict manager which is not what West is like in real life at all. He took a lot of issue with that portrayal as he should have, that show really did him a disservice.
@johnnoone4323
@johnnoone4323 3 ай бұрын
Jerry West -when I was growing up he was my all-time favorite players. I have read every book about him. Like with so much in life, there is a curse and a blessing to everything and that defined Jerry West's life.
@andrew_ballantine
@andrew_ballantine 3 ай бұрын
Insane timing
@nickl4326
@nickl4326 3 ай бұрын
Jerry was cold blooded on the court 💪🤌
@DW-rs1pr
@DW-rs1pr 3 ай бұрын
West was a man of integrity. Cant say the same for the others
@Anthony-nd6vk
@Anthony-nd6vk 3 ай бұрын
@2:40 “Conceptual beef” we’ve been needing this existential beef episode all along
@ShniitSchneyder
@ShniitSchneyder 3 ай бұрын
RIP to a legend ❤
@Mo1683
@Mo1683 3 ай бұрын
Y’all know what’s funny? JJ Redick’s been quiet af since this Man’s passed
@cynthiaa3359
@cynthiaa3359 3 ай бұрын
He actually made a long statement on his podcast with Richard Jefferson that morning the news broke
@uncreative5766
@uncreative5766 3 ай бұрын
RIP, Logo. Without you, the Warriors dynasty never would've happened.
@TheBINIBALL
@TheBINIBALL 3 ай бұрын
RIP legend. One of if not the greatest basketball mind who ever walked on this planet.
@michaelr6902
@michaelr6902 3 ай бұрын
How do not people understand, Kobe and the Lakers DO NOT WIN his 4th and 5th title with out Jerry West. West Gave the Lakers Gasol to keep Kobe from leaving LA
@spamandjamjamandspam8669
@spamandjamjamandspam8669 2 ай бұрын
West had Gasol in Memphis so he knew the kind of player he was. West was great at seeing talent
@Loooam
@Loooam 3 ай бұрын
Mr. Clutch, the Logo. That man was a throughline through generations of NBA basketball since basically the beginning. He’s been such an important figure in the NBA 🥲 RIP champ
@lucashenderson2775
@lucashenderson2775 3 ай бұрын
RIP Jerry. The franchise hasn't been the same without you.
@itk.r8rsn8k15
@itk.r8rsn8k15 3 ай бұрын
No one loved the Lakers more than Jerry West. The Lakers turned their backs on one of their legend.
@OGProfficial
@OGProfficial 3 ай бұрын
Where you waiting to drop this ? RIP the Logo P.S. Seen your post it was just time for the story to be told
@sneakn
@sneakn 3 ай бұрын
There must be a lot of behind the scenes stuff that we don't know...for it to end like that is very sad.
@DeTAYL.
@DeTAYL. 3 ай бұрын
RIP to the Logo 🕊️⛹️
@jakerobins9059
@jakerobins9059 3 ай бұрын
If you only look at a player career west was a HOF player but if you combine coaching, management and ownership with his playing time I think he has a case as the GOAT and most influential person in the history of basketball.
@IAMGavinMitchell
@IAMGavinMitchell 3 ай бұрын
The timing of this video.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma 3 ай бұрын
RIP Jerry West. This was an interesting and good video, I didn't know about the Glen Rice promise and subsequent breaking of that promise or the harrowing battle with depression. Too add from what I remember of the Lakers Hulu doc(it's been a couple years since I've seen it) West had beef with Jackson before he came to the Lakers. West denied he hated him on the doc but others, players including Shaq, had said he did and it was enough of an issue West had said, paraphrasing and privately, he did not want to bring Jackson in as coach.
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