Secretlab Titan Evo 2022 Gaming Chair Review & Comparison - Is the new version better?

I upgraded to the Secretlab Titan Evo 2022 Series gaming chair and in this review I'll detail my experience with the softweave chair and compare it to its predecessor. More info Below:
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Is it worth buying the 2022 Secretlab Titan Evo gaming chair?
I needed a second gaming chair in the household so I got the new Secretlab Titan Evo 2022 series softweave chair. In this video, I review & compare the new generation 2022 Titan Evo to its predecessor the Titan which I’ve had 1.5 years with around 5000 hours of use!
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Timeline Chapters:
00:00 - Broll
00:33 - Introduction
01:10 - Why am I upgrading?
01:53 - Unboxing & Assembly
02:53 - Initial Impressions
04:09 - Cloudswap Arm Rests
07:50 - Magnetic Pillow
10:39 - L-Adapt Lumbar Support
12:04 - Pebble Seat Base
13:15 - NFC Tag Authenticity
13:55 - Softweave Plus Fabric
17:32 - Neo Hybrid Leatherette
19:39 - Styling & Small Changes
22:01 - Recliner
22:58 - Sound Test - Rocking
23:29 - Warranty Experience
25:20 - Conclusion
Written Review:
Hey all, so I’ve been using the new Secretlab Titan Evo for about a month or so before posting this video review so this review is based on a good level of usage. I expect I will follow up with a second video sometime between 6 and 12 months of full time use.
I’ve bought this new model as I already own the Secretlab Titan 2020 gaming chair (and I'm keeping both!). If you haven’t seen the reviews on my channel on this chair I believe most of its content is still completely relevant here also!
Overall, I think the 2022 Secretlab Titan Evo gaming chair is certainly worth an investment! Generally speaking it seems to take the best of the Titan and add nice quality of life improvements across the board, many of which are not mentioned in the spec sheet. While not everything is perfect, I think Secretlab are using this model to launch a new magnetic eco-system which I believe will see new accessories & personalisation features become available to this chair and future models, and potentially I'm guessing maybe even to older models!
The magnetic head rest is probably the feature I want to love the most, but I believe it's the feature in most need of improvement. The problem is simple, the magnetic strength is just not strong enough. While the pillow stays on, I would say you will likely need to adjust it daily.
What I didn't say in the video was there are a few subtle iterative improvements to some features on the chair, and one in particular I wanted to mention was the armrest internal mechanics for its height adjustment. In the Titan Evo, the height adjustment is significantly quieter and appears to have more grip when choosing a new position. It’s a small improvement only those who have used the generation will notice.
Overall if you’re in the market for a gaming chair, I’ve had a pretty good experience with the Titan Evo so far and I’m expecting it will last even longer than my older Titan which at nearly 5000 hours of use still looks brand new! So I believe if you’re in the market for a gaming (or car-style chair) the Secretlab Titan Evo should be at the top of your list.
Finally, Secretlab is known for iterating their product during its product lifecycle so I wanted to confirm that this chair was purchased shortly after release and I would expect minor improvements & tweaks will come. So there's a chance some of improvements may be made to your chair!
After posting earlier reviews of the Secretlab Titan I was invited to join the Secretlab Affiliate program. As I’m sure you can see here I really have found these chairs impressive. By clicking the links above I may earn a small commission for purchases made from Secretlab. While this is the case, I can only emphasise to you that this video is completely honest. This video took about 3-4 weeks to produce working nights and weekends to get it done, so it would be a great way to show your appreciation.
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[@BenCad]

UPDATE: Hi All - I've now spent One Year with the Titan Evo chair and have published a new review! - Video is on my channel or linked in the description here. This video here is also still just as relevant also! Cheers

[@MoraniMusic]

Thank you for such a thorough review! This was more helpful than most anything else I found online. Your two reviews (the original 2020 review and this review) were both so well made and informational.

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback Morani! Appreciate it! Glad you found them helpful!

[@TopicalTech]

Superb review! You've had covered absolutely everything. I'll shortly be purchasing my first ever Secret Lab chair and have been watching some reviews. Yours is by far the most in depth whilst still sticking to the key point and being concise! Thank you.

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback mate! Glad it was helpful! :)

[@VonBek2009]

You will not regret your purchase.

[@aquathecolor]

I know this is over a year old, but how’s the chair holding up? Planning on buying one next week.

[@paulferenc]

How is your chair now, do you like it?

[@VonBek2009]

I have the 2020 Titan, and it is awesome. It got me through Lockdowns and 12 months of working from home, and gaming. It's still as good as the day it arrived.

[@BenCad]

Glad it’s going well for you!

[@bullshifterz8815]

Thanks for the review lad. I'm giving some serious thought to getting one of these. I've seen nothing but praise for them so far and this video covered all bases, and some things I hadn't even thought of.

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback Fean and good luck with your decision!

[@amandacarrigan9874]

this is such a solid review, thank you! I just got the 2020 Omega chair and I wasn't sure if I had made the right decision, but honestly besides the lumbar support I am still quite happy with my purchase and this really helped solidify that I still made a good choice :)

[@BenCad]

Glad you're happy with your choice Amanda :) I still love my older Titan too :)

[@Cpt_JackSparrow]

Thanks for taking the time to compare them. Both of your videos are very well done and I feel more confident in deciding which model to buy!

[@BenCad]

Glad you found them helpful :) thanks for the feedback!

[@mistersquigee5119]

The armrest argument you put forward is very interesting, you are the first I see to find an actual reason why. Makes a lot of sense thanks.

[@BenCad]

It’s just a theory but time will tell if I’m right! Thanks for the comment

[@wac_]

This video was very informative, thanks for making it so straight to the point and unbias, while including the timestamps. Definitely helped in decided which chair is better for me.

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback wac!

[@wac_]

@@BenCad NP, bought the chair and have been using it since and I love it

[@BenCad]

@@wac_ hey glad it’s going well for you so far! thanks for checking back in! Cheers

[@pricadlo]

Loved the review!! Pretty thorough and straight forward, great job. Thanks a million :)

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback Priscila :)

[@MDJeez888]

Amazing review, thank you! Watched your previous review of the 2020 model and decided to buy one at the time.

[@BenCad]

Thanks! Hope you’re enjoying your chair!

[@TrainJJ]

Great review! Thanks. Just ordered the Titan Evo 2022 Softweave Plus Black3 yesterday. Can't wait....🤞.Best wishes from the Netherlands...😎😉👊

[@BenCad]

Thanks TrainJJ! Hope it all goes well!

[@jiffer705]

Very helpful and in-depth review. Be purchasing my chair this week :)

[@BenCad]

Hope it goes for you Jason!

[@Bottymonster]

Great review Ben. Really good and in depth. Subbed because of this. Keep it up.

[@BenCad]

Hey thanks for the feedback Botty, glad you found it helpful! Cheers!

[@minimelegend]

Great in-depth comparison, Thankyou!

[@BenCad]

Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for leaving a comment :)

[@raphelchan4359]

Thank you for the sharing information!

[@1981AdamGs]

Nice review and comparison. I have the 2020 Titan in the same color fabric. I've had it for one year and absolutely love it. The only issue I had was one of the armrest covers had a gouge in it right next to the the swivel button. It drove me nuts. I emailed support and sent them a picture and had a new one in three days.

[@BenCad]

Hey Adam, glad your experience overall and warranty experience has gone pretty well!

[@soffianfar1d559]

Is it soft and can sit for a long time ?

[@BUCCIMAIN]

I might be a bit late but I think the reason the older one felt softer is that you had used it for a while and chairs usually get softer after some time, or it could actually just be softer.

[@_Noirscape]

That's what I was thinking too. To use his jean comparison, newer jeans feel a lot more rough because you haven't worn them in yet. At least in my experience.

[@BenCad]

hey Buccimain and Noirscape, sorry for the late reply here. But yes the older chair is definitely softer/smoother, but that feel of the material is on any part of the chair. Not just where my body touches, so I am very confident there is a difference in manufacturing and material. To reiterate what I say in the video, the 2020 TITAN has a softer/smoother feel, compared to the 2022 TITAN Evo which has a more sturdy and strong feel which im betting will last longer. Honestly though its not something you need to worry about or would notice unless you're comparing both side by side like I am here :) Cheers!

[@laurenzfulde2421]

Hey, Thank you very much for the video… it helped me a lot. 👏

[@BenCad]

Thanks Laurenz, glad you found it helpful!

[@Awas79]

Great video, will deffs check out your one year review

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback! Cheers

[@nubsandbolts920]

Thank you. I just needed a new chair for my dreamachine setup. I purchased a grey Omgega in june 2018, and it is in stellar condition! I was worried when i logged on and saw 'my size' wasnt in stock. But i see that the titan 2022 evo comes in all sizes so i was super happy to order my chair. just now:]. I will enjoy both chairs for 6+ years to come. Really looking forward to the fabric, and lumbar support as i was born missing arm and leg causing pretty intense scoliosis. The omega changed the wear down after long workdays on my back and joints and i know the titan evo will continue todo so! Thanks for blustering confirming my purchase!

[@BenCad]

Hope it all goes well Taylor!

[@Jc50gt]

You have no IDEA how happy i am with this video. OMG. Lol you don’t know how long i have been trying to decide between another 2020 Titan or one of the new 2022 models. Going to go with the new one. Thank you!!

[@BenCad]

Glad you found it helpful mate hope it all goes well for you! Thanks for the comment.

[@catcs]

Got one a few days ago, just waiting on delivery. Super super excited 😍

[@BenCad]

Hope it goes well for you!

[@catcs]

@@BenCad thank you!

[@sgtcrusher66]

you are one of the best reviewers i have seen! very thorough very good quality and editing ! very friendly! with that being said if you would like to get more viewers do something a little crazy or silly or a little outlandish catch phrase possibly i know its silly but its entertaining as well. just an idea this isnt a complaint at all just a suggestion i liked and subscribed awesome review !!!! i even made a purchase because of your video! i got the medium 2022 edition soft weave cookies and cream edition .

[@BenCad]

Hey Dan thanks for the comment and feedback! Appreciate it :) hope you enjoy the chair!

[@CazuaLRulez]

Good review. Very professional, thanks mate.

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback mate!

[@jacobsteele7138]

Best comparison of the two I've seen. Very good job.

[@BenCad]

Thanks Doug, hope it was helpful to you!

[@VisibleEnd]

@@BenCad I love my 2020

[@BenCad]

@@VisibleEnd Glad you're liking it :)

[@sneakycroww7732]

Greetings from cali!! Good vid man love the look of how cookies and cream looks. Im having a hard time choosing between this or the black leather one

[@BenCad]

Thanks! If you’re in California you might really enjoy the fabric on those hotter days. Just a thought! Good luck with your decision. Cheers

[@branzeegaming6458]

After watching a ton of videos on which to buy... Softweave or Leatherette, you have sold me on Softweave Plus which is what i wanted from day one but then got heaps confused just before pulling the trigger on buying it. Now I am set on Cookies and cream Softweave. this video was very well constructed man good job!!!!

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback! Glad you found it helpful, cheers!

[@Stevegeta]

Thanks to this review i decided to buy one :) Thanks heaps

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback Steve, hope it all goes well for you! Cheers

[@pilske20]

Very good review thanks

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the comment and feedback :)

[@Ralexxanderr]

Superb review, really enjoyed watching this. Interesting that your 2020 Titan has magnetic bolt covers. I have the Blue Charcoal 2020 Titan and I don’t have magnetic ones, they have to be screwed onto the chair. I did get my chair shortly after they were released though, so it’s obvious they’ve made small upgrades as time went on.

[@BenCad]

This. Yeah you're not the first to leave a similar comment on the bolt covers. So it also wouldn't surprise me if some improvements are made to the Titan Evo as it goes through its product lifecycle - which is a good thing really.

[@Ralexxanderr]

@@BenCad definitely. I hope that this time however, they allow early users of the Evo 2022 chairs to benefit from newer features that they introduce say a year from now. Maybe offering us the ability to purchase them on the site or something.

[@BenCad]

Good idea!

[@Malik-rd4br]

Really good video ty ^^

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback Malik, glad you found it helpful

[@thedonfranz]

great comparison review! this makes me hold on to my month old 2020 model until they fix the headrest magnets.

[@sirbudz5095]

Not sure if they fixed it but I just got mine today and the headrest is incredibly sturdy. Doesn't move even when knocking it about a bit

[@skykitchen867]

How fun! I have the Titan 2020 blue softweave and like it a lot!!. The only thing that gets me cranky about the chair is that it still after two years of use, it is a dust magnet and I have to vacuum it frequently. It still looks like I just bought it. My head cushion still conforms perfectly and the lumbar adjustment is a dream! I too stained my chair with sour cream dip and the cleaning spray I bought from Secret Lab took it right out! I am very pleased with my purchase and have no desire to upgrade but If they decide to release a Guild Wars 2 chair....... lol . Thank you for posting such a great review!! :)

[@BenCad]

Glad yours is going well and thanks for the feedback!

[@exohive5608]

I’m considering 2020 rn especially with the $100 off. Many people say it’s their fav + softer; however the lumbar support for 2022 looks great.

[@BenCad]

There’s nothing wrong with the 2020 :) I say go for it!

[@ItsDanLatham]

A good detailed comparison - I have both the 2020 Titan PU and the 2022 Evo NeoHybrid so I can provide a comparison on those. Material: Overall difference in material is huge. The 2020 PU was of decent quality, feels smooth but if you squeeze it you can tell its PU. Also prone to flaking after a few years. The 2022 NeoHybrid is much more like real leather. It has a 'fake nappa leather' feel that I'm sure would fool a few people. Its the sort of material that wouldnt seem out of place in a decent car. HOWEVER. The noise from this on my early unit is crazy. Everywhere the leatherette touches the plastic parts of the chair, it squeaks and rubs like crazy with the smallest of movements. Apparently this issue has now been resolved - and they are sending me out a 'barrier kit' to install that apparently 'wont effect the look of the chair but will stop the rubbing of the materials'. But this isn't expected to ship to me until october. Until then I have wedged some cardboard in it. Lumbar - Whilst I prefer the clicky control for lumbar on the 2020, I always found it to be a bit too low. Overall a big improvement in the 2022, but I have an early unit that produces INSANE amounts of creaks and sounds. They are currently working on a replacement to send out and apparently its a common issue with early chairs. Im also not too sure about the slight bulge on the upper back area, seems to be causing me a bit of pressure. But overall ergonomics much better. Seat Base - much better, the previous one did put a lot of pressure on my thighs causing me to lower the chair to compensate. This new one is slightly less plush but I prefer the shape by far. With regards to recline, the functionality, and handle, is much improved, but the chair does not feel as stable as my 2020 at full recline. Overall a mixed bag for me, I think ergonomically it is an improvement, but for kicking back and relaxing without any issues or worry I've returned to the 2020 until the issues are all resolved.

[@BenCad]

Nice summary mate, hope it helps those thinking of the leather variants. Hoping those first batch issues get sorted asap!

[@Spencerwalker21]

Thanks for the info. I'll wait a couple months so all the bugs like the creaking goes away.

[@jeebtheboss]

@@Spencerwalker21 I'm thinking to do the same, as I can't send back my chair for warranty (I live in Indonesia but I need to order it in Singapore, no EVO 2022 in Indonesia, and so I have to pay for the delivery + import tax..). I sent an email to Secretlab asking if they were working on those issues (noise + magnet for the pillow), and I'm waiting for their answer. I love this chair, but due to the overall cost including delivery to Indonesia from Singapore + custom tax, this chair is gonna cost me 560$ (US), so I dont want any issue...

[@dan3458]

How are you claiming to know a chair released 2 years ago is prone to flaking after a few years.......

[@lorenzopasini4283]

thank you for your review🥰🥰 may i ask you how you set properly the lumbar support in the evo? i cant find the right setting😭

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback! I can’t say I’ve a ‘right’ setting, I just play around and experiment until I find something that’s comfortable at the time :)

[@PhilcoreTheLoud]

Hey, great video, thanks for the insight. I'm very tempted to get a Titan Evo (I would love to get the Batman one but I think the soft weave will feel a lot better. I hate sticking to leather car seats so .. :D ) I was wondering about the wheels, Are they rubberized (is that a word?!) or are they just plastic? I have hardwood floors and I don't want to scratch them up. Do you have any experience with that? Thanks and cheers from Germany :)

[@BenCad]

Can’t say I can offer much on how it performs on hard floors but The wheel rollers so have a slight rubbery feel. I would be surprised if they were a problem for a floor surface like that. At this price point you’d assume/hope it would be ok!

[@HunterCathey]

crazy you brought up the fact that the new arms will in fact fit on the old 2020 chairs. when i asked secret lab about getting the new arms for my 2020 they basically told me that they would not fit because it had a different bolt pattern and that they could give me a discount to buy the new chair. all this derived from a warranty claim for the arm rest on my 2020 lol

[@BenCad]

Yeah.. I've heard that too, I'm not sure why or if any there have been any product revisions but yeah. Definitely had no issues doing the old swap over on mine - which what was first production model of the Titan Evo, and a mid generation Titan which had some product revisions like the magnetic bolt covers etc. I'm actually quite surprised there is no arm rest upgrade path for older Titan yet.

[@morganaluthor]

great in-depth vid :) i've been searching for a good video bout it. May i know what size you are using? i'm thinking of getting either R or XL size arctic white (i heard that their white is kinda greyish)

[@BenCad]

Hey mate you’re looking at the Regular R size here, hope that helps!

[@morganaluthor]

@@BenCad thanks

[@carlobighouse5434]

Wow good timing. I have the 2020 in cart and can't decide vs this or the 2022 on a slight pre-order delay. Thx Ben

[@cs_DutchCheese]

If you cant decide dont look at the price at this point. Both chiars a super high quality. From what I've seen. I went with the 2022 version. With minor improvments which I can really appreciate. and yes I its a long time to wait. But youre prob gonna use this chair for the comning years. Than its totally worth the price and the waiting time that sucks a bit.

[@BenCad]

Good luck with your decision, I think either option will make you happy! But the Titan Evo gets you the ticket to buy whatever those future accessory products will be. Thanks for the comment, cheers!

[@silentplayz6797]

Get the 2022. I have mine and it’s amazing and the back support is so much better than the 2020 version

[@dustink8777]

Just wanted to say I ordered my Evo 2022 on August 24th with an estimated shipping date of September 23rd and they ended up shipping it on August 31st, so you might not have to wait long.

[@carlobighouse5434]

Ben, size wise did you notice any difference? Thinking about height from the ground and maybe shoulder width here. Thanks and excellent review btw.

[@BenCad]

Hey Carlo, first up thanks mate. To answer your question, my Evo is the Regular size first up and yeah pretty much to sum it up both chairs feel pretty similar, and thats pretty much my answer to your question too.. Height wise from top of the seat base to the floor at the lowest setting is approx 44cm, similar to the TItan. Should support is pretty similar too at least for my size, while the Titan looks like it has more shoulder support I think its mostly aesthetics. I hope that helps, cheers.

[@sinned5504]

Just wanted to double check i bought a good chair, I just got my cloud 9 2022 chair and i love it so far :D

[@BenCad]

Glad its going well for you! :)

[@isea_]

Im someone who spends a lot of time daily on my chair, so im contemplating between waiting for Black Friday discounts, or to buy it now. So i was curious what are your thoughts? Do you think they'll lower it by 50ish dollars, if not and it'll be like 40 or less, I think i'd just buy it right now. Appreciate the videos on the chair though, i loved the audio test in the 2020's video as my current chair's noise has been a huge issue for the entire ownership of it, and this is what i needed as a cherry on top. Thank you very much

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback! I would say if there was any chance of getting a better deal then black friday would be it if you're up for waiting a little longer. With that said, I believe Secretlab have actually recently raised their prices due to increase cost of materials and things. So it could go either way I think for you, good luck with your decision! Cheers!

[@OGBOOTSY]

Black friday sale! Ends in 7 days.

[@Virlo]

The Titan 2022 XL or Dxracer Tank for heavy, wide and long person all at the same time. Heard Dxracer was great too..

[@CitizenTechTalk]

Great video mate. Just one bit of advise, stop the clapping. I used to do the same thing. Just be conscious of it in future. It's very distracting for your audience (well for me at least). The rest was great!! P.s I'm an original PU leather Titan owner and you're 100% correct! I'm looking at the 2022 Titan Medium/XL in black myself now.

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback mate, appreciate it :)

[@joshsmith4998]

For some reason the 2021 models have a known issue with the lumbar support assembly creaking when you sit back on it. Had mine for a week now and it's super noticeable sadly, they claim a legitimate solution will be released but hard to say how that looks. Everything else about my unit is basically perfect though.

[@Andrew-nn4ml]

Mine creaked a bit at first, I just dialed both knobs up and down a few times to break it in a bit, after that, was perfectly fine.

[@pauljennings1466]

I’ve watched all your videos on these chairs, really appreciate the effort you’ve put in and your neutral delivery. It’s helping me a lot. I am definitely getting a secret lab chair, but torn on which. The 2022 looks great but the wobbly arm rests I’ve seen on other videos look terrible - how are you finding them in reality? If they are annoying I’ll go for the 2020 and accept the downgrade on other features. Thanks 👍

[@BenCad]

Hi Paul, thanks for the feedback appreciate that. I’ll put it this way - the arm rests on both my chairs are pretty much the same I guess on the ‘wobble factor’ part. So I wouldn’t make that part of your consideration in my opinion. Otherwise I’ve never mentioned it in any of my videos because to be honest I don’t really notice it and haven’t had any issues with it.. it’s fine. For me, they ‘wobble’ less than previous chairs I’ve had from lesser quality brands and feel significantly stronger too. I hope that helps you’re decision mate. Bonus - the optional plushcell arm rests are very nice on the 2022 :) Cheers.

[@pauljennings1466]

@@BenCad legend - thanks. 2022 model it is then - I feel I've done more than my fair share of due diligence now 8). Good luck with the channel, it's great to find thoughtful well presented reviews that are more than a superficial unboxing. I live in NZ and there's no real way to view most things before I buy them so videos like yours are a huge help and can save a lot of wasted time/money. Cheers

[@BenCad]

@@pauljennings1466 thanks Paul, hope it lives up to your expectations and goes well! Cheers

[@TylerLeeWarren]

Best value for the money!

[@gstkd7098]

Hi Ben ! I got the 2020 Softweave Titan at the moment. I really thinking about changing it to the new version? My 2020 is in perfect condition but I’m not sure if it’s worth it that much for the higher price tag ?

[@BenCad]

Hey mate is there a certain feature you think you need? Overall the chair does feel very similar to the 2020. If you’re happy with the your current chair now I would say you don’t need to upgrade and stick with it! If you’re one of the people that would like less pressure on the back of your knees or really want more lumbar support then there may be some features you might like in the new model. Hope that helps! Cheers.

[@gstkd7098]

Thanks buddy ! And I just read that they change the sizing ! My Regular Titan was perfect sizing I’m 6’1 200 lbs. should I go for the EVO Regular or XL ? What did you do?

[@BenCad]

@@gstkd7098 both chairs here are regular size and feel pretty similar! Hope that helps!

[@gstkd7098]

@@BenCad How much FT are you? Or in CM and how much lbs? Would help to see if I got the same mesurments

[@TickleMyResearch]

Thanks for the info, I said "how is this 30 minutes" when I started it but I thought it was well worth it, I think I'm gonna get one of these now, do you have an affiliate link?

[@BenCad]

Hey Mister, thanks for the feedback and support! Yes sometimes I don't how it got to nearly 30 mins either but there was a lot to cover! (It was was longer before I cut it down!) Hopefully the timeline chapters/skips helped if you skimmed through! Anyways & thanks, the product link in my description is an affiliate if you'd like to say your appreciation that way! Either way hope you found it help! Cheers!

[@timmmaayy3268]

I went with the frost blue evo XL and mannnnN im sitting on a cloud. Love it. Note to anyone don't have tiny wife try to pick up box and move it.

[@BenCad]

Glad you're enjoying it Timothy!

[@teamwrld965]

How tall are u and how much do you weigh?

[@dazzlingtwilight]

I want the frost blue but am so nervous about clothing colors rubbing off accidentally

[@timmmaayy3268]

@@dazzlingtwilight I’ve been sitting on a colts blanket for about two weeks now because the cat tried his hand clawing it..no issues

[@BenCad]

Hey all, I hope this review was helpful to you! What colour or variant of the Titan Evo are you getting? My original reviews on my Titan are still relevant also, you can find links in the full description or you can find them on my channel :)

[@cs_DutchCheese]

I'm getting the same as yours. I dont have hairy pets XD and I dont really like the leather. I know its easier to clean. But convert is for me higher priority. Its just a nice stylish and unique design that you dont see alot. And yeah if you spill something or your chair its less noticeable because of the texture.

[@PrinceDavid]

I am getting the leatherette with black and red highlights! It is coming in a couple of days now, hopefully it works well for me.

[@Soph-ny8zy]

got the plush pink & i love it 😍

[@andrewscott4668]

I ordered the batman chair might ship September

[@BenCad]

@@Soph-ny8zy glad its going well for you :)

[@MrAkatosh]

I keep my neck rest pillow happy on my fridge up so I can always be proud of my accomplishment

[@fishmeat69]

Hahaha I have the same chair as you on the left at 14:36 and it looks about the same as that 🤣🤣 after watching your review I decided to buy one for myself!

[@BenCad]

Assuming you’re Aussie then, can’t beat the dirty old Bathurst chair! Joking! You definitely can beat it! Haha hope the new chair works out well for you!

[@fishmeat69]

@@BenCad Definitely am! Got my Bathurst from officeworks at least 10 years ago, has been a solid chair but time has come for a new one :D thanks for the reply

[@BenCad]

Nice - wow good effort getting 10 years out of it! Secretlab will experience will be amazing for you! This is built like a tank in comparison! :)

[@fricadelle9059]

You had me with the pillow as car door protector 😂😂😂😂

[@BenCad]

haha if you get this chair, a day will come one day when you'll do it :P

[@fricadelle9059]

You know, your reviews were the turning point : I decided to buy the 2022 EVO in cookies & cream and ought to receive it today !! So thanks so much for the hard work! P.s. I have the exact same camera setup 👌😉

[@BenCad]

Nice setup then :) hope it all goes well and lives up to your expectations!

[@HiCZoK]

You still recommend it? I want to get the xl fabric version. Not sure if I want black or cookie color yet

[@BenCad]

Still finding both chairs good and both seem to still look brand new! The only real update I have is after reading a bunch of comments from other users on this video that say their chairs seem to have much stronger magnets for the head rest. I decided to reached out to support/warranty and they're sending me a new backrest which I haven't received yet so will be interesting to see how that goes. Hoping they may have improved the magnetic strength after the first batch of chairs!

[@ChicagoBulls1984]

Do you feel like you need to use the magnetic headrest or is it still comfy without it??

[@BenCad]

Hey mate, you certainly don’t have to use the pillow. But I think once you do it would be hard not to use it. It’s quite comfy. You might find the non-pillow experience a bit firm if you’re laying down reclined in the chair etc. it’s not too soft up that end of the chair.

[@samuray500]

I bought the 2020 TITAN 1 week before the new chair 2022 was released. I told the support that I wanted to send my chair back and I would buy the new version after. But then after some reviews, I find myself in a situation where it's difficult to decide if I send it back and buy new one or keep the 2020. Honestily I like more the design of 2020, It looks more robust, it's bigger and has flater seat. In other hand, the new version has new features, like magnetic pillow and magnetic arm supports, which honestly I don't see it as anything special, but yeah, the improvement on the lumbar support seems to be interesting, although I heard that after one week the lumbar support starts to make noises every time the person seats back... So now I am in this dilema... send it back and buy the new one, or just forget it. Actually the support team gave me more than one month to return the 2020, so I still have the chance to do it... this happened because I told them that I wanted to send it back afer 7 days and they didn't understand that, and then I went in vacations and I had nobody to pack it and send it back to them so they extended the return time.

[@threechimneys6930]

The 2020 is a great chair. If you like the design and find it comfortable, why not keep it, save the extra money and avoid the magnetic pillow issue. I have a 2020 and I'm probably about to buy another. My height and weight equates to 2020 Regular or 2022 XL - I don't think the extra $110 is worth it just to get the newer model. Still debating be though! Your decision may not be so straight forward. Good thing is regardless of what you decide, you'll have a great chair!

[@BenCad]

Honestly, if you're happy with the Titan 2020 I'd keep it! Unless you need the magnetic features in your life the chairs really do feel very similar, like you're not going to have a 'ITS SO MUCH BETTER' moment with the Evo model they feel pretty similar and the 2020 looks slightly better in my opinion too!

[@samuray500]

Honestly If the lumbar support would be like 1 cm higher, I thing it would be perfect for me. Also the pressure under my knees is something that bothers me a little bit. I was thinking about to change for the 2020 Omega before I saw the 2022 release. I am 180cm tall so both could work I guess. Anyway, is anyone that has the 2022 facing some problems with the noise of the lumbar support. I read a lot of reviews where people complain about this annoying noise. Dont't know if this only with some people or it's happening with everyone.

[@BenCad]

@@samuray500 sounds like you may benefit from some of the other improvements potentially. Re the back of knee pressure i hope you can see the difference in shape on this new video, might help your decision. Re the noise issue, I've seen it mentioned too but so far my chair has been pretty much quiet (check my sound test section). I mention in the video I can occasionally feel some subtle mechanical movement inside the lumbar support especially when its set to the max setting. I'm not sure if thats related or not but I will be keeping an ear and eye out for it as the chair is used. If it does, I've only ever had positive experiences with their warranty support so far so I'm confident they will look after it and sort the issue out. I will likely produce a 6-12 months later update on this chair too so will be mentioning it there if this or any other issues come up! Hope that helps.

[@venomvenom6971]

@@samuray500 Keep the 2020. Went to their showroom recently to try the 2022 chairs and that lumbar creaking sound is apparent in literally all their 2022 titan series.

[@soffianfar1d559]

Hello is this chair nice and soft as I don't want it to be hard and I'm a gamer so I b Will be on it a long time so is it nice and soft?

[@i_Vex169]

Which one you prefer titan 2020 or 2022 ? Also i have noticed the titan 2020 seat is thicker is it more comftable in long hours ?

[@BenCad]

hey sorry for the late reply here, at the moment I think I prefer the looks of the 2020, but the comfort and padding the feel is essentially exactly the same.

[@nuitNo.6]

Would you mind uploading a picture of the underside of the chair? I just want to know if it uses the same green strap system as so many gaming chairs do.

[@BenCad]

Hey mate might be a little awkward for me to post a photo here. But if you jump on my channel or check in the description of this video to see the previous videos I’ve done on the 2020 Titan. The first one has a few shots of underneath the chair which might help you. (Underneath is very similar to the Titan Evo) I’m not familiar with the ‘green strap’ but I certainly say there is no green coloured straps there at all! Hope that helps mate.

[@nuitNo.6]

@@BenCad Thanks a lot! I'm certainly getting this chair.

[@Spencerwalker21]

For the magnetic pillow it seems like an easy fix for secret lab hopefully they send out a free replacement to people that ask for it.

[@BenCad]

I do think it's highly likely that Secretlab will Iterate the product will small incremental changes and hopefully the headrest will be one of them! I think theres good odds - for example, I remember when i first posted my 2020 Titan review some people mentioned that they didn't have magnetic bolt covers on their backrest. So I think we'll definitely see some improvements as the product goes through its lifecycle! Cheers

[@jeebtheboss]

@@BenCad hahaha I already sent an email asking if they were planning to do it very soon, waiting for their answer

[@BenCad]

@@jeebtheboss Would be interested to hear what they say back!

[@jeebtheboss]

@@BenCad Here is their answer. They don't say much about that.. "Rest assured that our team has fixes and solutions to help, should you have any issues with the chair. I cannot personally guarantee that your chair will not present any issues, as this is out of my control. Should you have any issues however, our team will be more than happy to help. I can confirm that they continue to work hard to check & find solutions for any possible occurrence that has yet to be found or has already been found. This is only thanks to our customers that provide essential feedback for the growth of the company. "

[@BenCad]

@@jeebtheboss Sounds like a standard generic response. But considering i've only had good warranty experiences with Secretlab so far I would be confident they will look after you if something is wrong!

[@Itsdetsu]

Got my Titan Evo Hybrid Leatherette (Stealth) and I was wondering about your comment on checking if its genuine leather or not. Bc its not creasing just like you mentioned in your vid.

[@BenCad]

Thanks for confirming, its a good trick to know for checking any genuine-leather related things in life :)

[@MrMcReeties]

Do you like your leatherette version? I’m stuck on going with the leatherette or the soft weave. I live in Arizona which is super hot, but I keep my A/C around 73°. I’m just worried about stains and what not on the soft weave, as well as it being a super dusty state. I’m worried the dust getting sort of embedded into the cloth on the soft weave and making it always look kinda dirty.

[@Itsdetsu]

@@MrMcReeties same thoughts thats why I didnt get the softweave. So far its very comfy for me. I have my AC always set around 75 as well. And yes its very easy to maintain and clean the leatherette. The office chair I’m using before kinda have the sofweave texture and it gets easily dirty and almost need a dry clean to make it look new.

[@MrMcReeties]

@@Itsdetsu gotcha. I currently have(had) a cheap OfficeMax chair that bought for $150 6 years ago, and the back rest literally snapped last night when I leaned back. So new chair will be ordered today. After you’re reply, I’m 90% sure I’ll go leatherette. My cheapo chair lasted about 4-5 years before starting to crack and shed. So If that lasted that long with my use, I could only imagine secret labs leatherette lasting much longer. And as long as the chair lasts me 5 years or so, it’s worth it in my book. Edit: do feel sweaty or sticky on the leatherette with your A/C at 75°?

[@antreasss]

I had bought softweave 2020 but I returned it because I was feeling a lot of pressure in my legs and felt uncomfortable, like almost cutting the blood circulation. Other users have also mentioned that. Do you think 2022 model has solved this issue? Thanks

[@BenCad]

Hey sorry I missed your comment here! I do mention this in an updated video I recently published on this chair. But from what I read it seems to have improved it, no one in my household has any physical issues with the pressure from either of the chairs but my partner in particular prefers the 2022 model as it’s more ‘comfy’ behind her legs. Hope that helps. Seems like at least they’re trying to solve it! Cheers.

[@HomieGroup]

hey when does the titan evo 2022 dark knight chair ship? it says 1st sept but i’m not sure if that’s 2022 or this next month?

[@BenCad]

I'd be pretty confident its this year. Can always ask them if you need to be extra sure!

[@Spencerwalker21]

Other reviews are saying the lumbar support makes terrible creaking noises. Have you experienced anything like that.

[@BenCad]

I've seen one of the videos that mention and show this, mine doesn't seem like it is so far, its pretty quiet like in my sound check part of this video. I have mentioned in my video I can sometimes sorta feel the mechanics of the lumbar support as I move around a little in the chair. I am not sure if this is related but I will be certainly be keeping an ear out for the symptoms. Sounds like Secretlab are well and truly across the issue and looking to resolve it though. They've looked after me pretty well warranty wise in the past so I have some faith they will sort it if and when it to comes up! I'm thinking i'll produce a second video on how this chair is going 6-12 months from so i'll certainly report there if this issue happens to surface. Cheers!

[@GoatThuKid]

Only thing I don’t agree with is the pillow issue with the magnets because mine never falls off and I tried that test by hitting it and it didn’t fall down like the video.

[@BenCad]

Interesting Chris, what variant do you have?

[@saliva1305]

have to say, very good video, good job man

[@saliva1305]

i would recommend lowering the volume of the outro a little tho lol

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback mate

[@BenCad]

@@saliva1305 ha yeah it was on the to do list and it slipped my mind! :( Appreciate the constructive feedback, cheers!

[@saliva1305]

@@BenCad do you know if its still easy to cross legs in a small version of the chair?

[@BenCad]

@@saliva1305 Like as in the smaller version of the Evo chair? (This is the regular here by the way). I would say it would be fine, the little wings on the sides of the chair are pretty soft. I don't even notice the wings when my legs are crossed on mine, chair just feels flat really when im doing that. Hope that helps!

[@dacbiet]

I was going to get the 2022 but the price is pretty steep. I did found a brand new 2020 version from my local marketplace for $200 and I couldn't pass it up.

[@BenCad]

Can't argue with that!

[@garabedderderian6680]

I am not sure which one should I get - I am 170cm 66 kg and it looks like the 2020 titan is too big for me but I would rather have that one instead of the 2022 regular. Do you think its that big of a problem for a short person to have the 2020 titan?

[@BenCad]

If you were looking are the 2022 model I would just say follow their size recommendations but… I know a few shorter people that got the 2020 Titan and they’ve found it ok for them. So I’d say you have good chances it will work out!

[@garabedderderian6680]

@@BenCad Thank you for the answer. I know that some people have problems with the lumbar support noise and other irritating stuff for them on the 2022. I think since I also wear slippers that would help a bit :) So i guess I will go with the 2020 one when the time comes!

[@jeebtheboss]

Just a comment regarding the video production, there is a big difference between the volume of your introduction music (loud) and your voice volume (lower volume)

[@BenCad]

Ah you got me! Was planning to drop the music track a little and It slipped my mind! Thanks for the feedback mate.

[@SUSHI4lyf]

I really like the color of the CnC, but how much of a stain magnet is it? That's what's preventing me from making the color choice.

[@BenCad]

It’s been surprisingly resistant to stains, as someone who’s spent 2 years working on it.. there has been many close calls! And each time it’s been fine. There’s only been one incident which has left a stain, I talk about that on an earlier video on my channel but I got most of it out. Hope that helps!

[@councilofflorence4896]

I'm 190 cm, regular or XL? FANTASTIC video man. Thank you so much.

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback! I’d say your best bet is to just to follow Secretlabs size recommendation. In this video beside was a Regular!

[@councilofflorence4896]

@@BenCad I have thick thighs and a long torso. But dunno if I'm large enough for XL

[@BenCad]

@@councilofflorence4896 I would say Secretlab wold have taken into account varying body shapes with their sizing recommendations, I would still say I think its the safest bet to follow their recommendations. You could always reach out to them and ask for some extra peace of mind.

[@oktoji888]

Would the 2022 backrest fit on the 2020 model chair? They look similar

[@BenCad]

Hmm that is something I haven’t tried, but as you can see the arms swap over so I wouldn’t be surprised if they did! Probably a bit too time consuming for me to test currently

[@oktoji888]

@@BenCad guess I’ll try it and see how it goes fingers crossed haha

[@obamalastname34]

Secret Lab should definitely move their leather into full-grain leather.

[@juanoros4132]

I think they have that as an option and it obviously would be fantastic but always comes with a significant price bump which is why it’s not standard

[@steveatkinson9022]

i just got the 2022 evo chair - its really good - but the seat could have been a bit softer - like with a memory foam or so atm itsa a littl uncomfortable

[@BenCad]

Hey Steve, there is definitely a bit of an adjustment depending on the chair you're coming from, give it a few more days to adjust :) Cheers

[@geogenocide]

hi, does it go lower to the ground than the 2020?

[@BenCad]

Hi George sorry for late reply - It’s very similar.

[@deans6571]

Is it just me or does the base (the part you sit on!) of the 2022 version look thinner than the 2020 version ?

[@BenCad]

It is a little thinner at the front I think this was done to help round the edges to reduce pressure on back of legs. Comfort is pretty much the same between both.

[@bananaaudio]

I think you should really disclose that your links in the description are referrals. Otherwise nice review.

[@popflazh]

Hi! I’m 85kg (187 pounds) and 183 cm (6 ft). For the 2022, should I pick the regular or the XL?

[@BenCad]

Similar size to me Valon, I'd go the regular which you can see here :) Hope that helps, cheers

[@popflazh]

@@BenCad Thank you brother. Appreciate the help.

[@Morten0Darving]

I think the armrest should be able to go closer to the body. When you sitting and talk about it the armrest, it should be able support that. My arms rest closer to the body then the chair supports sadly, and i can feel that in my shoulder

[@BenCad]

Hey Morten, so you already own one? Just in case you don’t - You can adjust the arm rests to be further away or towards your body. I believe in this video they would been set further away from the body here. Cheers!

[@Morten0Darving]

@@BenCad yes, i have a 2021 model. i have really tried some different options with none of them making my shoulder relax unfortunately.

[@BenCad]

@@Morten0Darving Ah ok, well that's unfortunately Morten, sorry to hear its not all working out for you. Perhaps you can send this feedback over to Secretlab and see what they say?

[@BenCad]

Actually just a second idea, if you look underneath your chair you may find if you loosening the 3 bolts holding the arm rests onto the seat base you may be able to slide the arm rests in closer towards you. I’m not sure this will work for you but you’ll be able to see if it’s worth a shot once you look under the chair. Hope that’s an idea you haven’t already thought of! :)

[@Morten0Darving]

@@BenCad Thanks for the suggest. I did that the first day becuase i could feel already there that i didn't fit my normal fitting. But i just thought i would take some time for my body to get used to the new position. Yeah i will try to text them 👍

[@PlngPong]

How soft is the bottom pillow I'm a little worried its abit hard

[@BenCad]

Hi, it’s definitely likely a more firm chair than what you’re sitting now. It’s a design choice to be more supportive for a long time, and you may need a few days to adjust to its feel. My chairs are still just as supportive years into ownership, I would be ‘feeling the bar’ by now with my older non-secretlab chairs. Hope that helps. Cheers.

[@ThisMayContainNuts]

Hey man! Loved the video! For a guy that's 185-187 cm tall, about standard "thickness", would you still go for a regular or an XL? Thank you in advance!

[@BenCad]

Hey mate not much taller than me. I’d say you could probably do the regular fine, but really my best advice I think would be just follow their guide recommendations!

[@PARCE93]

Are there any studies suggesting that having a magnet that close to your head 8-10 hours a day could be harmful?

[@ibsn87]

At 11:40 you say “you can feel the mechanical items”. Is this code for the crunch noise that people are reporting. I sold my XL 20 to get the R sized 22 but I’m worried about the lumbar noise people are reporting!? Is yours noisy!???

[@BenCad]

Hey Jack, thanks for the message. To be honest, I am not sure! But keeping an ear out for it. You're certainly not the first one to ask! So I've been paying more attention to the symptom as I use it since posting the video. Currently, I don't have the crazy creak noises that I've seen in some other videos. I would still describe it as this as a mechanical sensation like I say. I've just noticed sometimes you can feel the inside doing its thing as you pivot around on the chair. Its one I cant compare with the old Titan either because the lumbar support is so much better. Like the max lumbar setting on the 2020 Titan feels sorta like the lowest setting on the 2021 Evo, so I can sort understand how I can feel some movement inside the Evo chair considering how much more prominent the lumbar support is. I do know Secretlab kind of owned up to the problem early on and let early adopters know of the issue so I would imagine they would have or would be aiming to fix the problem asap. I'm not sure if this chair was a first batcher or not but yep no crazy creaks yet. However, considering a bunch of Evo owners have commented here mentioning their magnetic head rests appear to be much stronger than mine in this video. I am considering putting a warranty claim through on that which I think will need a back rest replacement. If that happens I will certainly compare and see if that mechanical movement I noticed is gone with its replacement. Either way, so far I've only had good experiences with their warranty support previously, so not feeling to stressed if the creaking does start! Wow that was a long reply-its late at night. Hope that helps you anyways! Cheers!

[@ibsn87]

@@BenCad hey there! Cheers for the super reply. Haha my friends usually mock me for having a conversation, but I’m not known for one word replies! Thank you for this, this has put my mind at ease. There is actually only ONE video I can find where someone highlights the lumbar support noise. So it must be minimal. Other metal seat base noises people highlight are minor and easily fixed with WD40. I think people live under a rock if they believe that any chair/door/gate etc doesn’t need periodic lubrication. After all, earth moving machinery has grease systems that pump grease into every articulated pin every 10-30 minutes… doesn’t hurt to lubricate a chair once every 6-9 months! Might send them an email and ask if they are making any modifications to the newer ones for those who have ore-orders. I dare say they wouldn’t want to admit it, but they would be mad not to make rolling changes. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’ll hold onto my order. I said it with the 2020 - the build quality was outstanding compared to even my $1k Herman Miller I got for free from work. (It needs lube every now and then too haha - who would have thought!) Thanks dude! Have a great week!

[@ibsn87]

@@BenCad ok. It just arrived. I’ve assembled it, and zero noise. It’s as perfect as my 2020. But the new features are great! I am 100000% certain that just because you are tall you SHOULDN’T get the XL. I’m a lean 6”6 and the regular is perfect - the xl had zero side support. Was like sitting in the middle of a park bench.. . (Even still I have both the screw and the arm rests adjusted inward to max). Thx for the review, I had nothing to worry about!

[@BenCad]

Glad it’s gone well Jack!

[@cjello1]

The only thing I can't decide on is of to get the black or cookies and cream color

[@BenCad]

Black would be safer, cookies might look better IMO. Tough decision!

[@cjello1]

@@BenCad I went with the cookies and cream :D

[@cjello1]

@@BenCad it looks too good to pass

[@BenCad]

@@cjello1 good call!

[@cs_DutchCheese]

Realy nice honnest review👍. I made my dicussion and went with the 2022 in the same material and color. I hope the magnetic pillow isnt gonna be a big problem for me. But we will see. Its always gonna be better than my IKEA chair without a headrest Now I have to wait for four weeks. Huuuuuhh thats thats gonna take forever.

[@BenCad]

Thanks mate, and good luck with your wait! Hope it lives up to your expectations. Cheers

[@NiiTee0202]

So I ordered my Titan 2022 two weeks ago, when their website stated my chair would arrive in September, but two days later they messaged me that my chair is in delivery. Im sitting on it since Wednesday :D hope yours is coming faster too. ^^

[@davidaannages4473]

Can you assemble this chair without arm rests?

[@BenCad]

Yep :) you can unbolt the arm rests. They attach underneath the chair so it would look ok too!

[@RYZ3S]

My height is 170 cm and my weight is 100 kg, which size would u recommend for me?

[@BenCad]

hey AB I'd say the safest bet would be to follow their sizing guide so I think you'd be in the regular range. Hope that helps, cheers!

[@RYZ3S]

@@BenCad Thx for the quick response 👍

[@awkc63]

Does it feel softer because you've had it for a year and have used it?

[@BenCad]

Honestly the 2020 feels pretty similar to as it was brand new, because when I tried the Titan Evo it felt very very similar :)

[@awkc63]

@@BenCad I was just curious if it was just because it was newer and not... Broken in, so to speak. Great video by the way. VERY impressed

[@BenCad]

@@awkc63 Thanks for the feedback :)

[@TheZenMicro]

I really appreciate your reviews of the Titan chairs Ben Cad, i got myself a 2020 Titan XL on sale and regret it! it's barely taller than the standard Titan i think from further reading and i am not a wide guy so my bad there, then i find it is not level (seat base is tilted) and some other defects in quality and condition of finish. They sent me a replacement back to deal with a stitching and zip condition manufacture issue and a squeak that developed, OK but the base i found to be not level, so they send me a replacement seat base, however the issue is clearly not that, but the mechanism component underneath, I make a video to prove the issue being the tilt part/base, at this point they agree i am eligible for a refund (although already outside of the standard return policy so that is appreciated) however i have never yet found the chair to be supportive for my lower back and only since then i used a bed pillow (and i tried a few different types) until i got the chair to feel like it should, It's like a chair shell without the padding and you have to add your own, the included headrest is ok and required i think but just now again popped off (elastic type not magnetic) and the base lumbar is not provided as standard

[@ibsn87]

I’m 6”6 and 92kg. I got the 2020 XL and 100% it’s no good if your healthy BMI but to be fair the original advertisement said it was for over 100kg people. I found the armrests at full adjustment inward was too wide, this meant my back would get sore. As I couldn’t put my shoulder weight on the armrests directly. The seat base and backrest were also too wide. Giving you the feeling of sitting on a park bench in terms of side support. I sold it for almost what I bought it for and have ordered the evo 2022 REGULAR. The advertisement for the EVO now says that I should get the XL but after comparing the stats. The XL armrests are the same width between the 20 and 22 models. And I KNOW the 2020 XL is too wide for a healthy tall person. I’m convinced the width of both XL’s is a massive mistake if your a healthy BMI but tall, you will get zero side support. As far as noises go. SO many people complain about creak noises on all chairs. Get yourself some WD40 and go exploring, every large earth moving machine has a grease system to periodically pump grease into the metal pins of suspension and articulation points. Chairs are a bag of moving pins. Give them some lube! Can’t expect them to build a chair with ball bearings on the swivel joints…… and you can’t expect a bunch of pins in a chair to not need lube every now and then. My (free) $1500 Herman Miller needs a spray every 6-9 Months.

[@TheZenMicro]

@@ibsn87 So does the evo 2022 regular provide head support? (i need to check their specs) but my last chair an Artiss which broke both plastic arms, the backrest height was a neck rest at best, still actually a better experience for me than the XL which as you say feels like sitting on a parkbench - no side support (and the lumbar for me as well) I could not find the source of the squeak, and i have WD40 and sorted the Artiss chair for that reason which the cause was in an odd place from factory (inside the actual tubes that the wheels attached to twisting/flexing on itself)... Any thoughts on the Humanscale Freedom Headrest model if you have tried?

[@ibsn87]

@@TheZenMicro if I recall correctly. The 2020 XL backrest is the same height as the 2022 Regular. I find it perfect.. depends on your torso height I guess? The 2022 Regular is 10000% more comfortable then the XL. I’m ever so slightly held in place on the sides. The XL was great, but just didn’t feel right. Definitely too wide for a lean body type. The magnets in the pillow itself are crazy strong. But there isn’t enough steel in the head rest itself. It does fall off easily - this is true. It’s by no means a deal breaker. You can zip the fabric off the backrest. I might see about putting some steel sheet in there 🤷🏼‍♂️ The lumbar support is superior to the 2020. And it’s got zero noise. *****Edit; it’s become a bit noisy in certain positions. But it doesn’t worry me I like that the arm rests pop off. I can see them being due for replacement due to wear in 4 years time. Maybe not needed but I like it’s an option. Really impressed. Happy I sold my XL and sidegraded to the newer Regular softweave black. Used my own referal code but a different email address for the new purchase and my wife’s name. So $35? off and another bottle of cleaner. I sold my 2020 for $600 so no loss! And got the discount on the new one. Would go softweave every time. I don’t trust ANY PU leather. I want this chair to last 15 years not 5.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

@@ibsn87 how did you get a free Herman Miller? wow!!! thanks for the XL warning, Im 6'3" 235 and athletic build (close to a good BMI, but not perfect)

[@ibsn87]

@@harpoon_bakery162 I had posted on another secret lab chair KZbin video and someone similar size to you was worried about going against manufacturers recommendation on size (the new 2021 says to go XL). He took my and someone else’s advice and couldn’t be happier with his Regular (as am I) the magnet pillow is shit FYI edit* the pillow is good. But there’s not enough steel in the chair itself to reliably hold it there if you plonk your ass into the seat it will flick off. . I have a band holding it up and a bit higher. And the lumbar support in certain positions can be a little noisey as some people have reported. It’s not a deal breaker for me at all. And I appreciate that I can move the support exactly where I need it.

[@ezwider4652]

there's not enough cushion on these chairs in the back or seat. It's like sitting on particle board covered in pleather. Not someplace I want to sit for hours. Even though it's wide enough, looks cool and awesome unboxing experience. I bought the Titan EVO and just got it Friday Dec 3rd. I'm going to send it back. There's NO support on your back. Might as well get a pillow and other stuff. No spine supports it's just a flat board and the seat is no better than sitting on the floor with minimal carpet. Who cares if you can lean back or adjust it if it makes your body feel like you got run over after you sit in it for a couple of hours. truly disappointing since I have wanted one of these chairs for over a year.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

WOw, sounds like a non-starter. how long did it take for delivery?

[@felixlorrainsmith4509]

Btw you made a mistake when saying that the new neo hybrid is 12 times better than the prime 2.0 pu. (The correct information is that it is 12 times better than the regular pu meaning its 3 times better than the prime 2.0 pu. :) Also in general, unless you're the dirtiest, sweatiest and least careful human on earth, the 2020 prime 2.0 pu shouldn't crack, lift, soften or discolor over time. And the neo hybrid can simply not crack due to its accelerated hydrolysis development technique which unifies the particulate fibers of the leatherette

[@jackbaldwin2135]

$669?! I just bought one and it cost me $890 🥴😱 how does that work?! I got the same chair but leather so it’s cheaper ?! Feel ripped off !!

[@BenCad]

The genuine leather is more expensive, but also the chairs have had price rises since these chairs originally launched too (when I bought this one), from all the covid supply dramas, inflation and such.

[@energyrecoveryinc.1157]

model 182

[@BenCad]

UPDATE: Hi all - I'm planning to create a 'One year later' review video on the 2022 Titan Evo chair - If you have any questions or anything you'd to know leave a comment here and I'll try to address it in the new video.

[@torreymenne3041]

I've heard some people are having noise issues (Squeaking when leaning back or turning), are you having any issues with the hydraulics or joints?

[@Snoopey0]

Did you hear back about any improvements being made to the pillow magnets for a revision?

[@just4head215]

How soft/firm is it? I've recently bought the leather chair and the back is just too firm for me so considering switching to softweave... so, is it much different?

[@Frenkye]

@@torreymenne3041 I orderd 2022 softweave like 3-4 weeks ago and after while I had issue with squeaking lumbar support. After few hours on email with support trying their suggestion for fix. They sent me a new backrest. The lumbar feel now more robust, so i guess maybe some bad piece from factory. Must say the customer service was really great.

[@PheralWombat]

@@just4head215 I purchased the 2022 Evo Titan softweave and I'm returning it because it's too hard.

[@adammason7895]

Hey mate, I’m sure she will get plenty of use with all these lockdowns over Australian.

[@BenCad]

Sadly, this is true!

[@lostboy2637]

How tall are you? around 180?

[@BenCad]

Yeah around 6foot mate, this is the Regular size chair. Hope that helps. Cheers

[@Zombie101]

volume of intro music versus voice recording is way way off

[@BenCad]

Thanks for the feedback mate