Secretlab Titan EVO 2022: Why I'm Not Buying It

[@TechAuditTV]

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[@Gattsu1986]

I had a budget Ikea chair and then upgraded to a budget amazon chair, I've basically had budget chairs for the last 7 years or so then took the plunge about a week ago on the new Titan Evo 2022. It's the best chair I've ever owned, the premium build quality and the comfort levels are unmatched!!! If you're considering upgrading, just do it, it's an investment for your health and just way more comfortable!!!

[@brokenSnake]

Nonsense. It’s literally the same quality as any 200 dollar chair

[@alizamaniyan960]

Dude I have the fabric 2020 titan. I always put my foot on it so the stitches became worn a bit. I claimed the warranty and they said it’s not covered by warranty but we give you a complimentary new sit part. Their product is amazing the costumer support is too good

[@jesserivera5722]

They Gave You The Bottom Piece? As In The One You Sit On?

[@yoda8588]

@@vhanila3402 a new seat (where you sit)

[@mabelho2136]

That reclining position you got into has me sold on Secretlab. The construction of the chair looks amazing!

[@avylynn4523]

It’s definitely one of its superior features. Being able to to recline at that angle and also have that function office chairs have to fall back loose, but instead of being at that right angle, you can be at even more angles you wish; doing both features simultaneously. And what with its heavy duty build you can feel comfortable going crazy on it. Also since your covered with a pretty reliable warranty I’ve heard. It’s certainly something.

[@katame_no_shi]

yeah it is freakin heavy duty chair i just got mine today (2022 XL) and boy o boy its really good

[@Deatomizer]

I'm 5'10" and about 220lbs. I just bought the 2022 XL and it is perfect. The seat is wide and comfortable and the best thing is the arm rest not only can be moved inwards, were the armrest attach to the bottom of the chair can slide inwards as well. Love it.

[@AqworldsAuildere]

Hi! Do you recommend it for 5"9?

[@Deatomizer]

@@AqworldsAuildere Depends, I'm just big enough for the chair in relations to my feet touching the ground nice and flat at the lowest setting and the with headrest being in the lowest possible setting to be comfortable. If you like a chair to have lot's of realestate than I'd say you should be fine. In saying that , the regular size is only slightly smaller and may be more ergonomically fitting for 5'9"

[@Joel-zo6yo]

This is good feedback, I am 6' and 250 pounds and I wasn't sure myself, but based on your feedback I think the XL def makes sense for me (I just ordered one).

[@NinjaNoMandarin]

@@Joel-zo6yo how did it workout for you? I’m around the same measurements

[@Joel-zo6yo]

@@NinjaNoMandarin I am using it now. The XL was the right call for me I feel. I will say I think the chair is not as soft as I thought it would be, but it is very sturdy and well built.

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

In regards to the armrests being magnetic, makes them super easy to replace. I have a2 year old budget gaming chair, the armrests aren’t replaceable, Ava are compressed and worn out Every chair I’ve owned the armrests get nuked. This makes the benefit of ez swap magnetic great for longevity

[@TechAuditTV]

Great point!

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

@@TechAuditTV well it was a great video!! I just figured that’s one benefit of the mag rests I’m waiting on a reply from my current chair mfg on a warranty If they won’t replace it, I’ll be getting one of these

[@smcordy]

Another review mentioned that they offer arm rest upgrades with different gels, and they are easy to swap out because of the magnets.

[@YnvTubz]

Received my 2022 Titan XL a few days ago after sitting in bs office chairs for the better part of a decade and I gotta say.. WOW. That’s literally it. Just, WOW

[@chefgoyar_d]

my same reaction 😭 LOVE THIS FKN CHAIR LMAO

[@LeanProblems]

I got my titan evo 2022 about a week ago and couldn’t be more unhappy with it. Upon delivery I received multiple emails from secret labs telling me my chair was part of a batch that might have extra sanitizer residue on the leather, and also known issues with the chair making lots of noise. When it delivered it did notice small spots on it but it wiped off. After a few days of using it the backrest/lumber support squeaks insanely loud Everytime I sit back or move around and it’s so distracting and annoying. The arm rests are also very loose and while I’m typing or gaming it’s very annoying too. Lastly, the chair is extremely uncomfortable. I found that my back pain got even worse and I can’t sit in the chair for more than an hour without it becoming unbearable. I contacted support and never got a response. I feel really stupid after hearing so many positive reviews but if you do some further research you’ll see that this thousands of other people with the same issues as me and secretly labs has done nothing about it. If you’re thinking about buying this chair, PLEASE stay away. It’s not worth $500 and you’ll regret buying it.

[@TechAuditTV]

Man, that's a bummer to hear! I don't represent Secretlab in any way but I do have a contact there and would be more than happy to follow up on your outreach to them. I've never had these experiences with Secretlab nor have people I've known had this, but I do know these bad experiences happen. I'd be curious to learn more about their customer support process so feel free to shoot me details at [e-mail] and I'll dig into this a bit more. Thanks for watching!

[@LeanProblems]

@@TechAuditTV I’ll be happy to send an email out whenever I do hear back from them (if I ever do). Sorry if I sounded a bit rude In the comment lol, I’m just frustrated with this chair. Secret labs markets themselves as a high quality gaming chair company and I wasn’t expecting so many issues within only a week of having the chair. These issues seem to only be with the new 2022 chairs. The old ones as far as I know don’t seem to have any of them.

[@jaredweiman2987]

When it comes to office and gaming chairs you have a few options in the $500 range and the rest are in the $1,200+ range. The latter is not even an option for most people. So the competition for me is mostly in the $500 range.

[@stevemulcahy5014]

I also don't like the idea of spending $500 on a used Aeron.

[@WiFeYBurGLeR1]

I have a 2022 TITAN EVO and honestly the chair is dope. They sent me the wrong right armrest, and customer support was great about it. They sent me out two new armrests and I didn't even have to send in my original ones.

[@BabeDollB]

Here's my take. I have the new chair and my boyfriend has the 2020 version. I'm 5'6", and slim, I got regular size. So far, I mostly like it. It seemed massive at first but as someone who loved sitting cross legged or with my feet up, it's been great. I don't think i would have liked the smaller version as it's got ample room to sit with your legs up on it. It's also super fun/comfy to lay back so far. Here's the cons (in my opinion) 1) The seats on both the 2020 and 2022 are very firm. Don't expect some squishy memory foam cloud feeling. It's apparently to make it last longer so it doesn't deflate, but honestly, it makes my butt hurt after awhile. I work from home so I sit for long periods of time and I have to adjust often. I actually bought my bf a PURPLE brand seat cushion because the chair was giving him a sore butt/back too. It's nearly hard, honestly. 2) the magnetic arm rests - i honestly don't like them. Theyre already comfortable enough and I personally don't plan on buying the squishy ones cause I never sit with my arms on them. There have been several times where I tried to move the chair by pulling the arm rests and the caps pop off and it scratches/pinches me. There's also been several times where I needed to bend over to pick something up or scratch my dog and I held onto the arm rest for support, and then the cap comes off and i almost fall. Again, the caps popping off caused me to scrape my fingers upwards on the metal underneath and my nails get caught on the edge and get yanked (ouch!) And it then snaps back into place and pinches me. Not a fan. Wish they went with a locking mechanism so you could still change them, but they stay in place. 3) lumbar support. I can't even fully utilize this feature because I have to keep messing with the knobs to make it stop CREAKING. I saw people complaining about this months ago and was hoping by the time I bought mine they would have fixed this known issue. Nope. It was quiet for about a week and now it's SO noisy. Lumbar in or out, doesn't matter. Anytime I swivel, shift in my chair, and especially if I lean back, it creaks super loud and repetitively. Loud enough that I can't ignore it. 4) the pillow. It's comfortable for what it is, super squishy. My complaint is that it falls off easily and there's only a small area where it sticks. It sits slightly above my head, and I can kinda slide it down just so, to where the back of my head rests against it, but it's on the edge of the magnet and will fall easy. It doesn't reach my neck at all. If i lean against it or lay back, and shift at all, it drags with you easily, off the magnet, and then falls down behind you as soon as you lift your head or lean forward. I know some people love the 'no strap' look. But personally i'd prefer a strap if it means the dang thing stays in place. Even just the momentum of sitting up makes it fall off. I'm concerned about the horror stories I've been hearing with the quality control and customer service. People are getting broken parts, missing parts, poor or loose stitching . The creaking parts. I just hope nothing breaks because people are apparently waiting months just to get a basic reply email if they write to them and ask for help or replacements. Look at their comment sections on instagram or reddit. Lots of upset and angry people. Seems like they lowered their standards this time around with the new chair. I expected a bit more at $500

[@krinklely]

Thank you for the an upfront and highly informative review. It has definitely helped in narrowing down my gaming chair choices.

[@identitythefthunter4907]

Should I get Omega 2020 or Titan EVO? and What size EVO should I get? I am 5'6

[@imdogfood]

I never tried the 2020 chair but just bought the 2022 and My only complaints are the arm rests wobble with the "4d" features and the magnetic head pillow falls off sometimes even like lightly sitting down I wish they used stronger magnets.

[@coop5046]

Is this an occurring problem? I wanna buy it but that sounds pretty annoying for $500

[@ibsn87]

EDIT: UPDATE! My lumbar support does creak if extended fully outward. They need to fix it for future designs. Is it a deal breaker. No. Is it slightly disappointing… yes. Your the first guy I’ve seen talk about the sizes in this way. I just got rid of my 6 month old immaculate 2020 XL. And ordered the R 2022. I’m 6”6 and the XL was waaay too wide. I weigh 209 pounds/95kg and the armrests at full adjustment inward was too wide on the XL. There was zero side support. I spent ages comparing the new model because the new model tells me to get the XL. (Previously the 2020 said xl was only for over 100kg… I would say. Don’t get the new XL unless your wide and overweight haha. I’m worried about the backrest noise concerns on the new model though…….

[@TechAuditTV]

Thanks for the insight, Jack! Not sure if you have seen one of my more recent videos, but I ended up getting the 2022 Titan Evo and I've had ZERO issues with noise.

[@ibsn87]

@@TechAuditTV nah I haven’t, I’ll check it out. That’s good to hear. Turns out my preorder is being delivered today!! I wasn’t expecting it for a month. So I’ll know soon enough haha. I would expect SL were onto the issue pretty quickly! See how we go! :) thanks!

[@ibsn87]

@@TechAuditTV ok. It just arrived. I’ve assembled it, and zero noise. It’s as perfect as my 2020. But the new features are great! I am 100000% certain that just because you are tall you SHOULDN’T get the XL. I’m a lean 6”6 and the regular is perfect - the xl had zero side support. Was like sitting in the middle of a park bench.. . (Even still I have both the screw and the arm rests adjusted inward to max). Thx for the review, I had nothing to worry about! Secret labs have lived up to their name and standards!

[@shadowsight4762]

I’m looking to get the Titan 2022 as my first gaming chair. I’m 6ft 3 and weigh 185 lb but as you have pointed out the website states an XL. I’m reluctant to go against the manufacturers recommendation but I don’t want to regret if it is too wide

[@ibsn87]

@@shadowsight4762 I absolutely guarantee you the xl will be way too wide. Set yourself up a mock armrest with your current chair and then measure an XL width arm rest. I know EXACTLY how you feel. Your smaller / lighter then me. I am MUCH MUCH more comfortable on the standard size. I sold my XL to get a standard, and even on the standard I have the arm rests (including the screw adjustment underneath) at minimum span and wouldn’t mind if they came in even more.

[@Zfinx28]

Amazing video, there's just one thing that changed with the 2022 edition that you missed, the lumbar support is now also adjustable in heigth.

[@CoachGarcia]

Heat pillow magnet adjustable now

[@hugosxm]

And this is why I'll buy it... My 2020 is cool but I wished so hard for the lumbar support to be able to move up and down...

[@ibsn87]

@@hugosxm I just sold my xl 2020 to go a regular 2022… but now I’m worried about the noisy lumbar support concerns. Secret lab has sent out an email talking about “how to break it in”. But others say it’s still noisy. Hrmmmm to cancel the preorder or not..

[@avylynn4523]

A bit gimmicky imo. After experiencing the lumbar support, although 2020 it tells me what to expect just without highering or lowering it; I reckon this chair would’ve dealt fine w/o and instead like how they supply a free memory foam pillow; slip in a memory foam lumbar as well. That sounds like it would better immediately mold better like the pillow which I loved immediately

[@DayVidsVlogs]

Thanks for breaking down the size and height differences! I went with the TITAN Evo Empire Regular, I’m 5’5 so I was worried about the size but I think I’ll be fine 😅😂

[@CC-uf8wi]

Just pulled the trigger on the 2022 EVO with the Batman logo! Pretty excited since my current chair was a cheap knock off thats been peeling all over the place.

[@titan57547]

Nice one batman logo 👌 👍

[@Scragg-]

I wanted to get the monster hunter variant, but then I thought about my current dry spell and just got black on black

[@jaxtaylor33]

I got the 2020 Titan Batman edition and love it. With the improvements of the lumbar support and magnetic headrest of the evo , I’m sure you will enjoy yours as well. I have zero complaints with mine.

[@stevemulcahy5014]

Just ordered a Titan EVO XL 2022 to replace my broken cheap Staples home office chair, saw this title and thought I made a huge mistake! But watching this, it makes sense. I feel like an expensive office/gaming chair should last 5 years at least and the added features this has over your one if you already own it aren't worth replacing it.

[@umanoid1523]

I bought the XL EVO 2022 and it arrived two weeks ago. Im 6 2 and 300 pounds so wanted the XL. Loving it. I had an issue with the back/ base connector (One screw hole was misaligned) and after a few emails they’re sending a replacement. ive been sitting in a terrible broken office chair for a couple of years and my entire body was not happy about it. I spent a year of looking at different reviews and i was very close to ordering a herman miller for $1500. Ive had them before and they’re great. They’re also way overpriced. The Evo was cheap compared to that and to be honest its a vital piece of equipment since i sit in front of my computer mist days , all day.

[@brucekowalski3763]

I’m 6'2" and 210 pounds. I'm between the 2022 Regular and XL. Are you satisfied with the size of the XL? Do you think I could go with the regular?

[@umanoid1523]

@@brucekowalski3763 I don’t know. My chair is like a throne on wheels and its comfortable (It still needs to be worked in and used longer ). I have great height for my long legs and ample room for my big booty. I never realized but I think my torso is shorter so the ONLY issue i have is with the headrest pillow. For me to use it I need to place it lower on the backrest and its at the edge of the magnetic area so it often falls off when Im using it. Id rather be safe than sorry and spring for the larger chair. It would be a HUGE pain to put it together and then end up having to disassemble and send back. I had to put this together myself and it was like a wrestling match. Pieces are pretty heavy.

[@mattalford3932]

So you replaced a "home office chair" with a gaming chair. I'm glad I learned how to weld. Taught me to not buy the wrong tool for the job lol.

[@Miller1107]

Was considering buying the 2022 model as my first Secret Lab, upgrading from a no-name brand Amazon "gaming" chair. The added supports etc are enough for me to spend the little extra and get the 2022 model. Thanks!

[@BLACKSYNTH]

I had an AK Racing gaiming chair since 2015 was never good for my back the lumbar pillow was usless so used it without. was only comfy when reclined watching films. Made a HUGE mistake reading reviews of Secret lab and people saying they are over priced , uncomfy same as any other cheap gaming chair. so I splashed out on a £1000 Ergonomic chair which almost destroyed my back. fast forward I have a Titan evo 22 and anyone who tells you it's just an overpriced gaming chair are either lying or have somne other motive. This thing is soo good for my back I can sit in it all day with no lower back restlessness/fatigue. was firmere than I'm used too but got used to it after 2 days.

[@kennyagne2922]

i owned my Omega for almost 3 years now no leather pealing at all, the people that talk shit about secretlab never owned one i upgraded to the 2022 titan and its a significant upgrade

[@SuperSemirage]

First time in 2 years I have had back pain, was after going back to my office and sitting in the crappy chair at me desk at work. My Titan 2020 is the best thing I have bought for my home office/gaming room. The one issue I did have, was the arm rests tore (I must have bony elbows, but I have seen there are a few reports of this happening). SecretLabs replaced them instantly, and were amazing with their support, though the entire armrest including supports had to be changed. This however would explain the new magnetic armrest covers ;-) No longer need to replace the entire side arms, etc, but only get a new top cover for a fresh new look and feel. Cheaper, quicker, everyone is happy.

[@luk4art]

Same situation with my chair, 2 years of hard use(16h per day) and it looks like it's came out of shop. Best given money ever .

[@Mourdraug]

I own a Softweave Titan from mid 2019, and had one major issue when it comes to the chair. The left armrest PU cover cracked after only a year and support informed me that not only they have no replacements in stock and will put me on the waiting list, but also that warranty does not cover it. Only half a year later after I started sharing photos of this cracked armrest they suddenly got back to me and offered me a free replacement. That's my main issue with secretlab - their product support. Also I think this might only apply to the Softweave chairs, there is some kind of inner fabric between outer fabric and mesh that for me started to tear up and clump up for some reason. Other than that, I have a very bad habbit of sitting in a weird poses on my chair, for example cross legged, and I noticed that there are 2 wires going from the back to the front of the seat and seating weirdly might cause them to bend and start poking through the fabric, but that can be quite easily fixed.

[@youtubeviewer4489]

Just bought one of these chairs. It's incredible. The only con to this chair is the price, but you are definitely getting what you paid for.

[@Ghamera86]

I sat in mine last night for 3 hours and it was painful

[@BuddhaVybezProd]

just purchased my first secret lab titan!! hope i feel a difference from my 40$ faux leather office chair lol...!! ill be updating soon...

[@chucks_88]

I really wish I seen this video before way over spending on the XL chair. I'm in thar 250 pound range and that regular size would have been fine for me. Oh well, good video by the way

[@nKarje]

This chair is bad: Even when tilt is locked, if I slightly shift my weight on seat backwards, the backrest and seat move back and it makes a click sound every time. This makes the chair seem unstable and wobbly. Lumbar support is noisy (only happend on day 2 - I understand this is a known issue/fault). The seat cushion inclined at the front, which diggs into my hamstrings. Not comfy on my legs at all. The armwrests make too much noise, this is minior, but when combined with everything else, just adds to frustration.

[@TechAuditTV]

Did you ever contact support? Sounds like you may have gotten a faulty chair.

[@avylynn4523]

Yeah I would contact support. I just got this thing today and this is literally like a heavy duty chair; I can do whatever I want with it with ease and so should you lol and is for sure under warranty since it’s sounding like a feature problem.

[@feXinat0r]

For future videos it would be great if you include also metric units for height/weight. As a European I have no idea how much kg an lb is

[@mkultra_vii3283]

A kilogram is approximately 2.2 pounds and a centimeter is approximately .393 inches and it takes 12 inches to make 1 foot -- An American

[@iSwifx]

Sold my omega and got the new one, it's real nice!

[@TechAuditTV]

Awesome! Glad you are enjoying the new chair!

[@cinnamonoa]

I would love to buy one, but I don't have that much money right now so i'm buying a cheaper gaming chair

[@r0tb3rt]

I bought my first Titan Evo couple of days ago and this was the best decision ever. It´s worth the money.

[@Mindtricks101]

stlll like it?

[@r0tb3rt]

@@Mindtricks101 yes and no to be honest. My backrest had to be replaced twice. First the leather on the back had wrinkles so SL replaced it. Then the magnetic function for the headrest was gone so they replaced it again. Last week they replaced the armrest after they send out the wrong part. Support is great but whoever did the QA should be fired and stoned....

[@r0tb3rt]

@@Mindtricks101 yes and no to be honest. My backrest had to be replaced twice. First the leather on the back had wrinkles so SL replaced it. Then the magnetic function for the headrest was gone so they replaced it again. Last week they replaced the armrest after they send out the wrong part. Support is great but whoever did the QA should be fired and stoned....

[@mattalford3932]

I know an owner of a Ford pinto that swears by it. Doesn't make it a good car lol.

[@johnnyray5515]

So its not the fact its a worse chair, its just that your completely satisfied with your current chair. Got ya.

[@rinkairiozuki7245]

Just Pre-Order my Secret Lab the Witcher chair. Seriously can't wait to get it in few months. I have 90$ chair right now, and definitely need an upgrade. And all i heard is good things about Secret Lab. My brother have Omega, and his arm rest is damage after few years of use, and my Noble Chair (the one before cheap one)arm rest got damaged too few years back, so magnetic arm rest's is something i consider a good idea, if you need to replace it.

[@RJM316]

Thank you for this video. I am in the market for a new chair for video editing and this chair sounds wonderful.

[@Drelay]

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[@chippsterstephens6800]

went from a stool, yes, a stool! a cool "fender " branded one, but still. for the last 5 years, moved up to a 2022, in black, PU, its flawless, one thing that really stood out to me, was how its packaged. despite FedEx's attempts at totally destroying the box, as seems to be standard operating procedure for them. the packaging is literally bombproof. almost overkill, the likelihood of anyone getting the same, is pretty darn high, the chair is well packaged. it will arrive in great shape. assembly is braindead easy, and no trip to the toolbox is required. my only issue is the lumbar is not so great IMO, it's a very tall and stubble, also the knobs in a bad spot, other than that, I love the chair, all other adjustments are easy to reach, and I find very useful. I was worried that the chair would be too firm, after reading many reviews, while it is firm, it is very comfortable, especially if used for many hours, like gaming, till the sun comes up. or tracking, / mixing a new song. just my take.

[@cfusionman1225]

Sorry but these chairs are the WORST. I bought 2 and the PU leather on the seat completely flaked off. The chairs are super heavy, uncomfortable and noisy. They have like no cushion. Prepare to hurt sitting on these things. I literally rolled mine down to the dumpster.

[@Talisman060]

so basically if you already have a titan 2020 the upgrade is minimal. but as a new buyer id say the 2022 model is the best choice.

[@luigimax1426]

I got their new one in like the summer and its made comfortable, its very well made except for some squeaking which I'm contacting them about rn, but overall I could fall asleep in it and it feels great in day to day use, except that I got the regular size and its to tall for my legs but it fits the rest of my body well.

[@carllutz7523]

I'm like 6'2" so I'm between the new 2022 Regular and XL. Whereas with the 2020 version of the Titan I appear to be right in the middle of there range. B/c of that I feel like the 2020 is an overall better fit for me. don't see much else difference between the 2 years but your reviews on these chairs has been awesome!!

[@zeddos]

Please let me know how you decided and how well it fits you when it arrives.

[@brucekowalski3763]

I also am 6'2". Which one did you buy and are you satisfied?

[@carllutz7523]

​@@zeddos The 2020 Titan softweave fits me GREAT! I'm probably about 70% or so towards the top of it's limit. So someone 6'5" I believe could easily fit. Also someone 5'7" ish could probably fit as well. So ya, overall I'm super happy with the 2020 size-wise.

[@carllutz7523]

@@brucekowalski3763 The 2020 Titan softweave fits me GREAT! I'm probably about 70% or so towards the top of it's limit. So someone 6'5" I believe could easily fit. Also someone 5'7" ish could probably fit as well. So ya, overall I'm super happy with the 2020 size-wise. - Also it says delayed on their website but I got mine in like a 7-10 days I believe. I did pick a pretty standard stock one so it didn't have to be made or customized.

[@zeddos]

@@carllutz7523 Thanks for the answer mate. This helps a lot.

[@CrystalFaceGuy]

Super helpful video, thanks so much for making it! 😄

[@DocSnipe]

On the opposite side. I have a 2018 titan and I can't stand it anymore. I find myself with constant upper back pain, pain + fuzziness in the butt, along with fuzziness of the thighs. It's a great chair if you want to be in full recline, but thats about it imo. It genuinely makes me want to stay away from my desk as It's a chore to sit in for me. I am replacing it this week with a logitech x herman miller embody. I sat in one in store and it was a night and day difference. However, the chair is also 1395 before tax right now, so, I feel its ultimately unfair to compare the two. Secret Lab could have also fixed their padding issues in the newer models, I have yet to sit in one made after 2018. I will say however, the PU leather on my 2018 is still in *good* condition, it is just a little looser on the butt padding, but that could be from a lack of wiping it down and honestly, because of how hot it can get in the chair and how that affects you. Especially in those 100 degree summers.

[@meisaki931]

Please update us after months of use!

[@DocSnipe]

@@meisaki931 Ill try to reply again after some time has passed, but its been 3-4 since I got the chair in my possession. So far, it has exceeded my expectations. Its quite a few steps over my old Secret Lab. It hugs your back so well and it is actually giving me decent support when I'm in an active upright position. For media, it is very comfortable as well, I put my feet up and it almost feels like I'm floating. No joke, I found myself experiencing the "free fall" sensation like I was falling back (after this happening multiple times I can guarantee, the chair was NOT tipping. It mainly had to do with where I placed my arms). For media consumption, I will be buying the Atlas headrest when it is available. While not needed, it would be a good addition. The headrest is definitely not needed nor wanted when in the upright position.

[@SteCollects]

For the UK they no longer do the 2020 and doesn’t look to be restocked so 2022 is the only option

[@rogyx2289]

Their slogan should be: *Suffering From Success*

[@kirasenpaiamv]

My highet is 5 6 and i buy regular which is for 5 7 now my feet can't touch the ground -,- but i be 17 in oct and i'm boy so i think i still growing and it be perfect for me in months

[@SUSHI4lyf]

I like that point, and I really thought about it for a couple of minutes, and you're right! SL is the only brand that has owners who defend their chair like their actual child. Says a lot about the quality of their products.

[@somedude1149]

A lot of parents are deluded and think their children can do no wrong 🤔

[@Viewer13128]

actually, owners of herman miller, steelcase, etc. all defend their chairs like their child.

[@AeonTon]

So what you're saying is that I can save $50 by getting the regular if I'm 6'3?

[@mattdomaille3577]

I've just ordered my first secret lab chair, it's the regular 2022 titan Evo, looking forward to getting it! Good vid 👍 #zc

[@jeebtheboss]

please tell us if you got any noise issue or any magnet issue with the pillow. I read many comments about that, I'm waiting for more info before I buy mine ;)

[@mattdomaille3577]

@@jeebtheboss sure thing, I'll let you know once I receive it and give it a bit of use!

[@axtoon2152]

How do you like it?

[@iiwolfishtein8343]

@@jeebtheboss I just ordered the 2022 Evo black Soft weave, I will update you too if you want once it ships around early October,

[@jeebtheboss]

@@iiwolfishtein8343 thanks man

[@HiCZoK]

You think the seat is not too hard? I am considering 2020 xl or 2022 xl. Hard to decide

[@badmoonLV]

I'm 6,9 and 300lbs...still cant decide which could be the best chair for me...Is Evo 2022 XL worth the price? There is also a limited availabilty in my country for less popular chairs, so I can only choose form Secretlabs, Noblechairs, DX Racer, AKracing, etc.

[@Czermet666]

New leatherette sells it for me, cos ive seen some horrific pealage on the PU model

[@waslos36]

5:30 that size informations are great! Now im buying the regular :-)

[@TechAuditTV]

One thing I totally spaced mentioning is to measure your current chair! That will give you a more accurate sense as to the best size for you. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@colinmorrissey5077]

Ill say this was a shameless bait-n-switch headline to draw in views but it did answer the very hard to find inquiries i had so 5. Stars. I am buying the 2022 titan evo since i did not have any of the previous models. This video solidified my decision and if secretlabs has any disposition to toss you a bone i will have no problem providing someone my order number. The only negative ill add for anyone reading this, and i do not have the chair yet, is; another video stated you needed to purchase a buffer between the cushion and frame to prevent squeaking. This seems like something that shouldve been included in the launch but ill hold off judgment until i recieve my chair. Thanks!

[@radiocontrolgoree8772]

Ordered mine back on the 12th of this month they said it would ship on the 26th I get an email saying it got pushed back till September due to a shortage of chassis required by trucks to transport shipping containers lol

[@fattahghani9603]

Ordered mine. BTW love that shade thrown on Apple lol

[@SPARKER77]

the new 2022 chair price has now been changed to $499.00

[@TechAuditTV]

Ouch! Not surprised though, I think they are doing that in prep for the holiday season so that they can say it's on sale

[@revenge_is_golden7587]

I'm debating on getting a Secretlab chair. Because the chair that I was sitting on (way before I had to have a disc in my back removed) was giving me pain at the base of my spin and lower back. I really would like to get a better chair but there are so many options out there. Do you get any pain from sitting in the Secretlab chair from your personal experience?

[@avylynn4523]

I have the 2020 softweave XL titan. His chair but the weave fabric model. I’d say your case is certainly special and if your back needs that much tender care after your surgery removal; I wouldn’t recommend the chair in your case. The integrated lumbar support for me is honestly so subtle I’m fine with it one or off. But again; thinking about your case you’d want probably like a Herman Miller type of deal.

[@lornemacarthur4304]

You’ll get back pain sitting in any chair for too long. You need to get up and stretch/walk around frequently

[@revenge_is_golden7587]

@@avylynn4523 thank you for your comment. I will admit that my back can be tender most of the time. I do get up every hour to try strengthen back and to stretch muscles. Will look into Herman Miller chair. Thanks again for your suggestion.

[@revenge_is_golden7587]

@@lornemacarthur4304 I get up every hour to walk to hopefully strengthen my back, and to stretch muscles. After having back operation has been really sensitive even before having it done when sitting for about 20 minutes. I was asking because majority of the time I have to lay, and would like the chair to be comfortable in both positions. Also to see if it's a comfortable chair from others personal experience.

[@lornemacarthur4304]

@@revenge_is_golden7587 good to hear! I only mentioned bc I have disc issues in my back and neck and had a tendency to blame chairs for awhile instead of my lack of activity. Personally as much as I want a SL chair I don’t think they are a good design since the winged seat back looks like it will push your shoulders forward. That’s probably not great for your back either since I’m sure bad neck/shoulder posture puts more pressure on your back (but I’m no expert).

[@wondertech2457]

Thank you Brandon and ZedCee!

[@_CEEZUS_]

I’m 5’8, 175. I’m stuck between the smaller and regular version. What would you recommend?

[@TechAuditTV]

In general do you like "tighter" chairs or a little more space? If the latter, I would maybe go regular because from other reviews I'm seeing that these new chairs tend to run small

[@_CEEZUS_]

@@TechAuditTV I’m so glad you mentioned that last part, because I was leaning towards the smaller chair. Thank you so much for your informative video and quick response. You’re the best! 🙌🏻

[@MOVIEKICKS]

can you eliminate the lumber bulge completely? I want a chair with a flat back, no lumbar bulge.

[@PrinceDavid]

I ordered a 2022 and I am getting it in 3 days I can't wait! Hope I have as good an experience as you did with your chair.

[@TechAuditTV]

I hope so too!

[@axtoon2152]

How do you like it?

[@PrinceDavid]

@@axtoon2152 so far I really love it! I no longer have any back pain when sitting at the desk all day. It's a very comfy chair and put together really well.

[@axtoon2152]

@@PrinceDavid Good to hear! How is the noise level? I heard it creeks excessively. Is this true?

[@PrinceDavid]

@@axtoon2152 I received an email warning me about that but I haven't heard any creaking myself!

[@xanderkollee6634]

i am exactly 6.5" and my weight is around 210 lbs. Would u recommand Xl or regular?

[@michaelsimmons9324]

What kind of floor lamp is that in your background? is it from ikea?

[@SUSHI4lyf]

The stocks in my country have depleted. I hope they come out with new colors when they restock. Does anyone know if they historically did that?

[@SaFteiNZz]

Well the lumbar support was shit for me. I returned the chair.

[@rileykairc]

I have the 2020 Joker omega chair,I just bought the large Magnus and because of this review I bought the 2020 batman omega chair to was cheaper to thanks for the tip

[@tom11zz884]

Pay no mind to his crappy review folks. The chair is amazing. best gaming chair on the market hands down

[@maha-rf5pw]

I love your headset stand, may I ask where you bought it?

[@DB-hx1qd]

Yes you may ask

[@justo316]

Just ordered a new 2022 model in pretend leather cos my 2020 softweave gives me static shocks constantly.

[@avylynn4523]

I’ve heard about that. Like a rare case. I have that exact model and have never experienced such a thing. Weird.

[@justo316]

@@avylynn4523 I asked secretlab if they had any advice and they basically told me to Google how static electricity works lol

[@avylynn4523]

@@justo316 Maybe a bit snarky but I don’t how else I’d respond to that either. I have very low pile carpet.

[@justo316]

@@avylynn4523 Yeah I didn't expect them to actually do anything about it. But maybe at the very least say so in a nicer way. At best, perhaps suggest some treatments I could apply or help explain why none of my other fabric chairs ever gave me shocks. On the other hand, their support has been first class with the problems I'm having with the 2022 model

[@MattPB]

So I’m 6ft1 and weigh 202 pounds, so I go regular or large 🧐

[@avylynn4523]

Your height alone is upper limit for regular; should be okay ish but I’d say large for you. It’s like when you get a belt. Size up a little.

[@sdg3363]

It sucks that the chairs are over 500$ now, I would totally get a 2022 for 450$ but for 550$, I can’t decide

[@oicfas4523]

I have the original Titan and don't really care for it. The seat PU has peeled awfully. The chair itself is so oversized. It's not very supportive, and the seat is quite firm. I would not have bought it if I'd tried it in person beforehand. I have an Embody chair on order and can't wait.

[@vhanila3402]

Why am I watching this video right after I ordered the 2022 titan evo XL😂

[@Alrold]

why I watching this after ordering one ?

[@VanjaKJ]

The only reason I'd get the Titan Evo is because of the xxl version. I'm heavier and have a biig booty so it would be better than anyone of the others.

[@darkstrife7723]

hi.im 1,73 cm ,what is better regular or small?

[@venveng]

I missed out on the Cyberpunk edition last year and the new Titan EVO 2022 Cyberpunk edition has just got a new stock here and its the new evo 22, I am not missing out on it again. I'm definitely gonna get me one for xmas.

[@lukewaite09]

Does it come with glitches

[@Evilkingus]

As an endorsement of one of the most disappointing games of all time. 🤣🤣

[@KirballsKeys]

I've had my 2022 EVO Titan for a few months now and I'm returning it. I wanted to love this chair but I'm in pain the chair is noisy, the base of the chair rocks if I shift my weight in the chair. I think the company is getting too ambitious and too big to continue having the quality they used to.

[@jackbaldwin2135]

$400 😂 double that.. that’s what your paying in australia for a secret lab chair … $830 is what I just paid

[@SUSHI4lyf]

+100 points for that Apple jab. 🥰

[@UnDead530]

He said he’s not getting paid by secret lab but tries to upsale you on the new chair. Talk about reverse psychology 😂

[@nousername3532]

Even if I’m below 5’7, can I still get the regular size?

[@Glennwulf]

I sure hope so. I'm a bit below 5'7 and my regular gets here tomorrow lol

[@TechAuditTV]

My wife is 5'7" and she sits in another 2020 Titan Regular and she loves it!

[@Glennwulf]

welp. guess i'm gonna find out how good their customer service is. The tab to adjust the left arm rest was just chilling on the bottom of the box, broke as a joke. *sigh* LUCKILY the height it's stuck on is almost perfect. But still, I shouldn't accept a broken product. hopefully I can just exchange the arm part and they don't need me to send the entire thing back. Other than that love the chair, my height isn't an issue at all!!

[@TechAuditTV]

@@Glennwulf oh no! Was it like actually snapped? I know they ship it with the levers unattached. Does it need to be attached or is it legit broke? Keep me looped in on how it goes!

[@Glennwulf]

@@TechAuditTV oh it's broke, broke lol. It's the little silver tab you use to raise and lower the arm rest.

[@mattx4253]

The only thing those die hard fans are on to is the fact that advertisement money ruins reviews and people can’t find true info outside of gamers nexus

[@TechAuditTV]

I'm not talking about other KZbinrs, I'm talking about average people I talk to online who have nothing to gain from recommending Secretlab. I should also clarify that Secretlab has not paid me even a single penny in advertisement money. As for Gamers Nexus, I'm a big fan of his work but you do know how he makes money, right?

[@mattx4253]

@@TechAuditTV he has sponsors merch and KZbin adverts. I’m pretty sure though he’s one of the more honest reviewers. Not saying you aren’t I was just being general with the issue of paid for features in general

[@johnh7414]

I'm stuck at 5'8"..... what should I do for chair size...

[@allgunsblazed9106]

gonna have to go omega

[@Crookesalot]

That's one comfy looking chair if I do say so myself 😅🙌

[@tricksalot2]

wait people have bad experiences with secret lab?

[@avylynn4523]

Lots of things I’ve heard sure. Didn’t deter me personally but maybe for others. Like any big purchase; read in.

[@tricksalot2]

@@avylynn4523 havent been detered ever since my purchase so thats that

[@CurseMonstr]

$400, was $850 in Australia 😭

[@FortessofShred]

I can think of over five hundred reasons not to buy one.

[@vvhitevvabbit6479]

Hi. I really appreciate the review! I wondered if you could tell me, does the pillow have the magnet in it or the chair? Or both? I'd really appreciate this info. Keep up the great vids!

[@TechAuditTV]

Just tested. The magnets are inside the pillow!

[@strychnine7777]

Hi! Can you please tell me what you clean for your leatherette chair? I couldn't buy the secretlab cleaner because they don't ship to hawaii. Please let me know huhuhuh or make a video of something that can clean without damaging my chair. Please! #Please!

[@TechAuditTV]

Honestly, I've just been wiping it down with Clorox wipes and haven't had any problems. I'm sure that long term it's not good for the materal but I don't wipe often and I haven't had issues. If you're concerned about the chemicals in those wipes, then even buying a pouch of baby wipes will do the trick!

[@strychnine7777]

@@TechAuditTV That's a very good thought, especially with PH wise! THANK YOU!

[@eksadiss]

I bought two. One for home and one for work

I'm 6'4", so what Size do you recommend for me?

[@TechAuditTV]

2020 or 2022? And what is your weight?

@@TechAuditTV The 2022 Model and 120kg. 😄

[@avylynn4523]

@ that sounds like XL w/o question. You’re right smack in the middle so makes sense to me. Use their measure stuff on their website too.

[@YuJay]

I was thinking of getting the XL. :3

[@colonelinfernal5004]

I own the 2020 charcoal titan and was expecting alot more comfort for its price. Its like sitting on a chair made of plywood. I even removed the arm rests because they didn't go low enough for me. I'm above the height requirement for the titan so there's really no excuse for its lack of comfort. The lumbar support looks better on the 2022 model but I believe the padding material is the main issue. It's too stiff.

[@joeking433]

Now $500 to $700.

[@brosbeforehorse6330]

both chairs are more expensive now.