Secrets of The Motorway - M58

[@cbrue1896]

I love the line "it's not a failure if it does not exist". Brilliant and yet so true!

[@McRocket]

Well, it's not true. Something IS a failure whether it is known about or not. But it IS, imo, a brilliant line. ☮

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@McRocket There's a difference between not being known about and not existing, though.

[@McRocket]

@TestGearJunkie-si3ws Well, if it doesn't exist? Then it is not anything. Neither a failure nor a success. ✌️

[@davidchilds5769]

I'm from the US but love your channel. I know more about British road history than I do US road history thanks to you. Gotta love it!

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks for watching mate, appreciate that!

[@ifaiful]

With that in mind, I’d love auto shanagans to do a vid on I 95, and see how he covers over carbon county and the Beth Doe murder case.

[@adamcowood7553]

The US has history? 😋🍔

[@outoftheburrough]

The horror in your face when the runner acknowledged you Jon 🤣🤣🤣 Good on you for finding more places to include in the future Places that go Boom series

[@jonmorris1999]

Felt a bit awkward

[@davenaylor8076]

Walk the dog under that canal bridge most days. By the way locally, it’s pronounced magull, the h being silent.

[@AutoShenanigans]

She took me by surprise some what.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

@@AutoShenanigans would have been funny if she knew you from youtube 😄

[@adamcowood7553]

@cyberleader Haha a cut to an off the cuff "accepted on the spot because you are not rude" selfie 🤣 mmmm... 🤔 As awkward as a Pizza Express when Prince Andrew dines in.

[@karlbbb]

Came for the mispronunciation of Maghull, and you delivered. The old Kennet prison/Ashworth hospital still has an escape siren that they test every Monday at 09:00. It went off last year one Saturday morning at 05:00 - ******* scary.

[@retrolover1990]

At this point I'm convinced Jon knows more about the UK motorways than the highways agency themselves 🤣

[@VampMiku502]

M58 is unfinished in both ends. M58 in eastern end was supposed to be extended further and end in M61 junction 5 with two spurs into Wigan (in eastern and western side). The prove is that west to the junction 5 of M61 there's viaduct over nothing. Originally there was supposed to be junction with M58. Later the plan was cancelled and somewhere between 1980s and 90s the same section was planned as A5225 but also it was cancelled

[@Mr.NiceUK]

Whenever I feel too sober, I just know I can throw on a random auto shenanigans, take a drink whenever a road/junction isn't finished, or a temporary (slip) road becomes permanent, and solve the issue. This was a particularly fine episode though 😂

[@AutoShenanigans]

Nice one, thanks for watching!

[@David_Crayford]

I do love those invisible flyovers. I would never have seen them without Jon pointing them out.

[@jackzvid]

That foot bridge you're standing on at the end of the video is rather new you'll notice. It got taken out by a tipper truck about 5 years ago. The old bridge lay on the embankment for around 2 years until they eventually replaced it

[@AutoShenanigans]

I didnt know that, great info.

[@adamclark6756]

Nothing to say about this video specifically, i just want to say that i bloody love this channel. Thanks Jon.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks for watching mate!

[@chameleonedm]

Yknow what I just realised? It's kinda mad You start every video with "have you had a good week?" and I am normally sat, early Sunday evening, with a cuppa enjoying some new auto schenanigans. That question actually makes me reflect on my week, and this time around I'm happy to say that yes, I have had a good week. Been a lot of bad ones, but this one was great and I may not have properly appreciated it otherwise Thanks Jon!

[@AutoShenanigans]

Perfect, thats what it's all about :) Glad to hear you've had a good week, enjoy the rest of it whatever you get up to :D

[@andrewuk8363]

@@AutoShenanigans it worries me when Jon says whatever it is that you get upto its like he's insinuating that I'm always upto no good. Wait what how did you know?

[@nelg1973]

Loving the outro music from "Bread".

[@Robwantsacurry]

By far the most exciting feature of the M58 used to be found on the eastbound carriageway just after junction 5. Something was causing the carriageway to subside, leaving a large bump in the road that would send cars and motorcycles airborne, it was finally fixed when it tore the trailer from an articulated lorry.

[@AutoShenanigans]

I didnt know that, very interesting.

[@Crazytechnition]

Yeah it was about 50m east of the Checker lane bridge.

[@davidpriestley1650]

Probably the many assorted mine workings - the M62 used to be like a rollercoaster near St Helens from the mine workings.

[@circattle]

@@davidpriestley1650 There's similar issues on the section after the M18 junction, particularly westbound before Ferrybridge. I seem to recall lane 3 on a several mile stretch was closed for a decade.

[@colbysquibb7854]

Thanks. Your channel is one of the best things about Sunday.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks a lot mate, appreciate that

[@slashnburndotcodotuk]

Looking forward to your M55 piece. It's interesting piece of motorway. Junction 2 of the M55 is still being built. It will link the west side of Preston to the M55, joining the A853 at Savick brook (The tidal navigation that is the only link from the Lancaster Canal to the rest of the canal network via the Millennium Link) It is currently called The Preston West Distributor (God I hope they rename it) I assume the Intended M59 would run or replace part of the route that is currently the A59. It would need a causeway or bridge (maybe a tunnel) to cross the Ribble estuary, joining the Aforementioned Distributor road, which would be brilliant for Preston as it would alleviate the bottleneck at Preston docks. Also giving those traveling north from Liverpool an alternative route to the M6 NB. really handy when the M6 is closed south of Preston. (I drive a recovery truck, and am often on a vacant M6) cheers from a fellow motorway nerd lol

[@iandickinson6400]

I think the M59 is long gone now. The M6 Preston bypass bit was upgraded to 4 lanes as a much cheaper alternative.

[@cliffordmace9197]

If I recall the M65 was supposed to carry on and join the M55 at junction 2, giving Preston an actual ring road.

[@Dan23_7]

Bread 🎶 👍🏼😂 I’m so glad you made it here JPH. I said the junctions are absolutely wink didn’t I 😂 Maghull is pronounced “M’gull” and Kirkby, just miss out the K. A very enjoyable watch again. Bravo 👍🏼

[@JonBowe]

As in Kirby, not irkby 😁😜

[@Dan23_7]

@@JonBowe Hahaha yeah, well said 👍🏼😂

[@AutoShenanigans]

Then why is it spelled kirKby!!!!?????? :D stupid name any way.

[@Dan23_7]

@@AutoShenanigans Thoughts of the old cleaner with the light on the front and door-door hawkers.

[@mrlister2000]

The M58 is very near to where I live, and on a Wednesday evening (biker night) you can hear the motorbikes giving it full throttle up and down it either on their way to The Scotch Piper in Lydiate or after leaving it. HMP Kennet was only meant to be a temporary Cat C prison whilst they built a new one on what has since become the Poppyfields housing estate, which was originally the old Moss Side Hospital. The proposed prison was cancelled when the tories got back in to power. The Junction 1 upgrade is an absolute godsend, as it has removed alot of traffic from the A59 through Maghull. It also means I can get to Switch island or back to Maghull in 7 minutes, instead of 15-20 minutes using the A59 Northway and hitting every traffic light to or from the Shell petrol station! Love this video John, thank you!

[@dh2032]

in maghull how many traffic light junction and crossing ponts are there on the A59, last time I counted them it was 9 (nine) in a distinct just over 1.5 miles, thats stopping point every 8800 feet or about evey 24140 metres, a long the A59 in Maghull, past Maghull, and the nothing until you reach Ormskirk and there are only 8 or 9 from switch inland al the way to docks, and that a much more build up area and that's 3 miles at least all build up areas

[@mrlister2000]

@@dh2032 It's ridiculous how many stops there are along the A59, hence the reason for using the new slip road at junction 1!

[@gaoeykreg]

Came for the motorway tidbits, stayed for those and the fantastically hilarious deadpan delivery.

[@Craigevansagain]

The M58 is one of five British motorways to be partially or fully single-carriageway. In the M58 case the single-carriageway stretch goes between M6 J26 and the A577 at Orrell. There was once the A6144(M) single-carriageway Carrington Spur between the M60 J7/8 and A6144 at Carrington but this has been downgraded to all purpose status. There was also once the A601(M) single-carriageway stretch between M6 J35 and B6254 at Carnforth but this has been downgraded to all purpose status. There is also the unnumbered single-carriageway motorway unofficially known as "Walton Summit Motorway" between Tramway Lane and M61 J9/M65 J2 at Clayton Brook. There is also the A38(M) Aston Expressway 7 lane single-carriageway motorway in the central Birmingham neighborhood of Aston. This has a central tidal flow lane.

[@deancrudgington1304]

Very good channel, I drive for a living and often see abandoned roads. Very interesting, keep up good work 👍

[@johnj3577]

The whole of J5, the A577 and Pimbo Industrial Estate becomes a racetrack for local petrol heads on sunny weekends. All the businesses are closed and Pimbo is all a one-way circuit. First time I got my knee down on my motorbike was around there many many years ago. Used to work there too and had to nip into work one Saturday and the place sounded like I was at Silverstone circuit for about three hours..

[@AutoShenanigans]

I nearly wrote something like that into the script because it certainly looked to me like somewhere one would go for some "late night outdoor motoring pursuits" Thanks for confirming :D

[@tobyjackman3212]

This is the best video I've ever seen about anything

[@testpilotian3188]

4:20 you did so well not to reference that the motorway junction was modelled after a butt plug.

[@fraserthomson5766]

It's dick graffiti for sure

[@horstyoutube6413]

Glad I‘m not the only one thinking immature thoughts looking at this „shape“. Although I was thinking knob and balls first.

[@seprishere]

There is a similar single carriageway motorway in South Ribble, the infamous "Walton Summit Motorway". Such a connection had long been provided to the M61, it had to be made a motorway when the M65 opened. The M55 is finally getting a J2, not to connect to an M59 but just to connect to a new Preston distributor road.

[@AutoShenanigans]

I'll be checking Walton summit at some point :D

[@chicklechives]

With a similar north west special random roundabout thrown in for good measure

[@londongaz2]

What's the speed limit on a single carriageway "national speed limit" motorway? 60 presumably?

[@6thdayblue59]

Thank you for explaining about the M58 Many of us Mancunians believed that our Liverpudian neighbours created a crazy network of motorways and mazes to confuse us, in some sort of football retaliation. Thanks to your explanation that once again it was town planners and crazy ministry of transport boffins, peace between the two Cities now exists 🤣🤣🤣

[@ianstewartorr8455]

Always enjoy your videos Jon greetings from Scotland thanks 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@PatGilliland]

Coffee and slipways time! Post war, farmers were given funds to remove any bunkers, pillboxes etc that had been erected in their fields. Some did just that, many just kept the cash and left the buildings to collapse on their own.

[@AutoShenanigans]

I'm quite jealous.. is it just me that fancies the idea of bunkers or buildings in your back garden :D

[@DitzyNizzy2009]

A sign I've watched too many of your videos (but I'm not going to stop) - during the week, I described something as being "wicked sweet awesome".

[@McRocket]

Another, entertaining video. Thank you. 1:34 - if you look behind Jon (John?)? You can see dozens of little. tree seedlings that have been started. These were (possibly) paid for by a charity that was set up by a Fulton Meadowbrook. He was a one time student of the local Moss Side Primary School (MSPS). This school was unique in that it was entirely made up of the children whose surviving parent(s) were serving 20+ year, prison sentences. The school was named as such so as to not raise alarm for local residents. Even though the school was 'private' and no local children were allowed to attend. The 'school' was actually a rather, large complex with the school and a residential block where the students lived (supervised), when not in class. Anyway, Fulton Meadowbrook's father was serving a life sentence for murdering his wife/Fulton's mother. And Fulton was sent to MSPS ('Miss Piss' was - apparently - a derogatory name for the institution by the students). Being that all of the children had hardened criminals for parent(s)? This school was made up of some 'troubled' children. And Fulton - being a smaller child for his age - got repeatedly bullied. This affected him (as it would anyone). But instead of letting it make him angry. It just made him determined to rise above it. And he did. After his father had committed suicide when Fulton was 9 (after 2 years at MSPS). He was transferred to foster parents - as he was no longer part of the criminal system. From there, things improved greatly for him (though he was still bullied - to a far, lesser extent - at public schools). Eventually, he left school when he was 18 and started his own business. Actually, he started several of them until he came across a winner in 1959 at the age of 27 - Rationale. It was a company that worked with numerous agencies (usually government/military and charitable) all over the world. Rationale would provided freeze-dried, non-perishable meals to whomever needed them. Always in bulk but never directly to the public. Rationale used (then) cutting edge technology at a factory in Liverpool to make these 'meal packets'. He ended up making huge profits on these - even though his markup for each meal packet was tiny. But he made up for this with bulk orders as his prices were the best in the industry. After he sold the company in 1981? He retired at 49 and began a philanthropic organization - FM Charities. The day-to-day operations were run by him and his wife - Erma. And later their daughter - Christina. Sadly, Fulton and Erma died in a freak, flux harvesting accident. But the daughter has run the charity ever since. With a particular passion for re-forestation. Thus - though I am not 100% certain - the tree seedlings behind Jon in this video were probably donated by FM Charities. BTW - the Moss Side Primary School was closed and torn down after the Moss Side School Government Report of 1967, came out. Of course, I just made the above up (though school bullying IS a terrible thing). Cheers. ☮

[@bladeofzorro1932]

I wonder if the planners ever watch your video's John. They might actually learn a thing or two. Keep up the good work. Stay safe, take care.

[@diversionbob8482]

Picture the scene, in an old folks home somewhere in a nice area of England. An old and frail ex town planning official, while watching these videos, is looking through his old collection of briefcases and finds the final plans for one of these lost junctions that he'd forgotten to post 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Anmeteor9663]

Planners of every generation cannot learn anything from snyone because they already know it all and are alwsys right.

[@malcolmyoung7866]

Probably put a ‘hit’ out on him.. 🤔😏

[@catmandoodoo7903]

One bit missed is at the 58/6 junction eastbound. To go north (left) you need to be in the right lane and to go south (right) you need to be in the left lane. Catches many non-locals out.

[@rincewindthefailedwi]

I work in Kirkby, as a transport geek my favourite thing about it is that some busses randomly terminate in the middle of the industrial estate showing a destination of "Kirkby Admin". It's where the administration buildings used to be for the military, though recently some just routes have changed their destinations to "Kirkby - Amazon".

[@martyndaniel6055]

I'm an ex-Kirkby lad, and it wasn't until I was about 15 I found out what the 'Kirkby Admin' was. I was disappointed to find out it was only the buildings with the bank/brushworks/few other businesses on it. Still, it sounds better than Kirkby-Amazon!

[@chrisvarney6857]

John you brighten my Sunday nights as much as Top gear used to back in the day. keep it up

[@markarnold8160]

I've worked on the Industrial Estate at Kirkby inside what is now Suez Recycling and Recovery which has its own railway siding and runaround loop.

[@Paul_Lucas]

Whoever designed that gate to Balls Wood knew what they were doing.

[@Charlieh1989]

Hi Jon. Interesting as always, but a quick suggestion if I may. When you show the maps pointing things out, like at 3:08 and 4:03, make the text slightly bigger, and make it bold text, white, with a heavy black border. This will improve the readability no matter what it's contrasted against, and will attract the eye to it straight away.

[@jkk45]

You're fast becoming the Geoff Marshall of motorway history.

[@timsully8958]

So not only do we get a ‘D1’ road (still getting that smug glow one gets from learning an obscure nugget of trivia that most people wouldn’t give a toss about) but now we have a single-lane motorway! 😧 But wait…there’s something missing 🤔 Ah yes…by what nomenclature should we reference this strangest of things? (Tippy-tap Google search followed by audible GASP!) This is a D1 as well, because there is no hard shoulder 😵‍💫 I feel as though my life has almost developed a new dimension of understanding, not least as I now know that en route to LondonI travel on an imposter: the A13 in part is a D3(M) road! A motorway…and yet not! 🤯 Mind blown and all thanks to your ability to take curiosity to dangerous new levels. Life in the fast (D3M) lane, eh? 😎🤘 I need a cuppa and a lie down after this lot 😉👍🍀🍻 BTW, more splendid incidental music. Took me right back 💜

[@bluwusky5167]

Fascinating vid! I always wondered why the lack of a Junction 2, at first thought I was losing it. Also love how on the aerial shots of junction 5 you can actually see where I work 😁

[@williethomson8353]

Answered all the unanswered questions thanks John

[@paulwheeler4283]

Yes again another fantastic and informative video I absolutely love this channel thank you for the reference to bread at the I used to love that sitcom for me Liverpool at it's best 😊

[@TonyBlews]

I worked on a site that had an "abandoned munitions storage area". It was left alone as it was cheaper to just pretend that it didn't exist then it was to get it investigated to see if it might blow up. They've since sorted it out. It was not dangerous.

[@Sarge084]

I remember seeing those munitions storage buildings. Looking at the layout from the aerial pictures it looks like they may have had a blast screen earthen mound around them at one time. I'm guessing there was a lot of bang stored in each building judging by the segregation!

[@dh2032]

not putting all your eggs in one basket or in this case one bunker

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Very likely and its something that many explosives factories did to direct the blast upwards.

[@martyndaniel6055]

I thought that the munition buildings out near Simonswood (pronounced as 'Simmonswood', not 'Simons Wood') were part of a 'shadow' munitions factory to through the Jerries off the scent? The Munitions stores are underground on Kirkby Industrial Estate, used as work units these days.

[@marksmith1944]

Nice one Jon👍👍 or Good Morning 😊😊( don’t get too excited) Balls Wood 😜😜🤣 WOW, you do a lot of research in this one. Love the theme tune from BREAD at the end. Take care, keep warm🥃🥃

[@DSPrints_]

This video was indeed wicked sweet awesome!

[@TheUltimateOwl]

KZbin recommended brought me here, staying for our lovely host and the interesting facts of UK motorways

[@stephenknight4862]

Thank you for doing the m58 and m57. I used to live in upholland near the crazy jct 5 of the m58 and its been so interesting to see everything and find out stuff I never knew. Excellent videos.

[@Enphyte]

discovered this motorway whilst doing my usual browse on Google Maps, saw how interesting it was and was wondering when you'd move onto it. enjoyed this video, as usuals! :)

[@stepheneyles2198]

Oh Wow!! There's a couple of good sites for the @urbandoned guys to explore in here! Prison and ammunition stores! Not sure about the graffiti at the beginning and the shape of some of those junctions - are they that 'naughty' up there? 😁

[@PTD2023]

thankyou - i have been whistling the bread theme tune for a good week now !

[@JohannaMeoww]

Thank you again!

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks a lot mate!

[@DavidAspden]

Jon is as brutally honest as Lilo Lil! Love the bread outro!

[@pacificostudios]

5:17 - With such a ridiculous design for the M58 - M6 interchange, I suspect the M58 doesn't get much traffic, does it? Only one routing, from NB M6 to WB M58 is reasonably direct and only goes through one roundabout.

[@jeremywilliams5107]

Brill. M58 had Dali as 'Junction design consultant'. From Futurism at Pimbo to Surrealism at J2 and Switch Island, it's an open-air museum.

[@brianmilem4002]

Here in most of the USA exits (aka junction) numbers are "distance log" meaning the number assigned is also the mile marker. Ei, exit 217 is at mile 217 makes determining distance between exits much easier and when new exits are introduced it doesn't require a A,B, C number scheme.

[@johnlladron735]

Another great video, thanks very much.

[@malcolmyoung7866]

Nice one John.. Wicked, sweet, awesome even.

[@ianlamb9606]

I've not heard that pronunciation of Maghull before. Brilliant video.

[@SteveDull]

Wicked, sweet and of course, awesome! Thanks Jon - bringing home the Bread. RIP Carla

[@iandickinson6400]

There was a similar section of single lane, 2 way motorway near Carnforth in Lancashire until it was reclassified a couple of years ago.

[@Arvendui1]

Assume that’s the A601(M) leading away from the M6/A6 towards the quarry? Didn’t realise that had been declassified!

[@iandickinson6400]

@@Arvendui1 me neither until I googled it an hour ago!

[@dave_h_8742]

Glad to see some mud on your boots. Most of my local walks covered. Air Raid shelters still on the ind est. As massive. Pimbo exit you showed the terrible junction. Cycled down the M58 before the tarmac was added. The bridge with the jogger is so thin every car beeps going over it. Balls wood was poverty lane park so the balls wood (😂 balls wood, BALLS) is new to me.

[@mrlister2000]

Balls Wood park has always been known as that, it's just that it is off Poverty Lane so the locals refer it as that rather than Balls Wood!

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

Another Brilliant Video Mate.

[@kiradotee]

This is the funniest video from a lot of your motorway videos 😂

[@jacobwhite1360]

“Balls Wood, hehe balls.. OH FUCKING BALLS” 🤣🤣 *car flys by infront of the shot* couldn’t have timed that one better John hahaha

[@ianstoyan]

This my favourite one so far. I'm learning loads. I hope to see the M53 soon!

[@Roblilley999]

This specific like button is news to me, thanks John for pointing it out

[@Hollaraedulioe]

Wicked sweet awesome ... if I may use those words :)) The canals are kind of the motorways before the motorways...

[@andrewfinch2009]

“Confused? You will be” (Rowan and Martin’s Laugh In ca 1970). Reminder to self: don’t drive near here. Great shot at 53s btw

[@jonathanpork-sausage617]

Ham going to watch this a couple of more times and make notes.

[@PineappleSkip]

Yes, still can’t find that freeway here, but today’s irrelevant obsession is the place on the maps from 4:24 called UP HOLLAND. Just wondering who decided to extend the finger to the Netherlands and why. Cheers, another great video!

[@OldSonyMan]

I used to live in 'up holland' and the explanation that I was given was something to do with 'Dutch Engineers' who built canals or drained marshland. Not Shure if it's true but definitely a better name than "Billinge" which is nearby !

[@davidburke1794]

OMG your so wonderful. Look forward to every post!

[@Caustictherapy]

Love the fact you missed off discussing the utterly appawling and dangerous slip road on the east bound carrage way at junction 5 ..... BTW there are a lot of old wartime ammunition storage things in the area.. I always put it down to the old Burtonwood USAF base down the road myself .. never knew Kirkby had the munitions like Birchwaood did :S

[@dh2032]

me Nadar, a lot would gone from liverpool you would thing and dropping bomb on the port was german past time, storing ammo in the same place would be no no, Maghull, by the start the two motorway m58/m57 direct rat run to docks today, would been out blasting area in the war time?

[@mikeneale9790]

I commented about that bloody dangerous junction in response to the M50 vid.

[@davidpriestley1650]

Back then there was nothing at Kirkby if there was an accident - but it did have railway connections to transport the munitions out - and then became the start of the industrial estate to the east of Kirkby. The railway branchline to the site is now used by Suez Waste & Recycling.

[@paulscottrobson]

.... you could make a whole channel on the dangerous bits of the Pimbo Interchange. It always amuses me that it's signposted "Skem" from the East.

[@markfethney7086]

​@@paulscottrobson Pre covid It used to be carnage at the roundabout almost daily. The shared slip roads on the east bound exit are absolutely lethal, you have to be ready to rejoin the motorway or completely stop if someone is joining and doesn't realise they have to give way!

[@Kenny1977-b1j]

Woeful underinvestment in UK infrastructure is everywhere, but much more notable in the north. Imagine an intersection on the M25 that was just a roundabout! BTW, those towns you passed are m’Gull (Maghull) and (don’t pronounced the 2nd K in Kirkby) “kir-bee”. Plus add a scouse accent, lad…😀

[@andymoss]

Another brilliant episode!

[@merseyviking]

Very timely, I was just on the M58 coming home from a night out in Liverpool. Also I see what you did there with the Bread theme song. The Carla Lane animal shelter is just off the M58.

[@vougiedipond6979]

Love this series. Hopefully a trip to Scotland is on the cards

[@roderickmain9697]

What we need is a map of all the motorways and their proposed extensions, missing motorways, unfinished junctions et al, to see what the UK might have looked like. Not sure we would have been better off but it would be interesting. Working in the Netherlands some years ago it was quite impressive to see how many motorways they had. Was back last year and they are even more clogged up than ours. There was also a complete flyover built for a motorway just outside the town (Wassenaar - Voorschoten road) I leved in. It never got built. Around 2000 they removed the flyover and now you cant tell it was ever going to have a motorway. Shenanigans everywhere.

[@medler2110]

I think a website called Pathetic Motorways would have quite a lot of the info you're looking for or Sabre roads website.

[@highpath4776]

probably one on Sabre

[@julias-shed]

Love the Bread theme tune 😀

[@fredsmith1970]

I live near the end of the M58 and close to Balls Wood 🙂 By the way Maghull is pronounced "Magull" not "Mag-hull" despite the spelling. And "Kirkby" is pronounced as "Kirby". Entymology of both towns' names dates back to Viking times... Maghull is thought to be a deriviative of a bend in a river - given the river Alt runs though it. Whilst Kirkby is derived from the viking word for church - Kirk.

[@SportyMabamba]

@WindowsLogic Productions only people’s hopes and dreams

[@vegansimber5298]

isn't it "M'gull"

[@markfethney7086]

@@SportyMabamba Haha nice one

[@johnenfield1930]

I thought Kirkby was pronounced 'Care-by'. Seriously, the numerous 'Kirbys' and 'Kirkbys' should all be pronounced Kirby. By the way, the M6 exit signs at Junction 34 north of Lancaster make it look as though Kirby Stephen is a ferry port - but the ship silhouette actually refers to Heysham, named lower on the signs!

[@TheMightyKinkle]

@@johnenfield1930 Ahahahi have never heard any of the Kirkby's pronounced Care-By. That would be a Brummy pronunciation though proably 😂😂😂

[@skarecrowster]

Watching with the Mrs on the TV, she's not convinced, I love it, great channel, I think you could spice it up a bit if you're driver maybe had a bit of good ol' fashion road rage from time to time.

[@UKSCIENCEORG]

Hooray! The motorway I drive on every day 😉

[@Dan23_7]

I do very often, and years ago I worked servicing boilers etc around Skem for about 2 years. I can’t remember how many front/left tyres I went through with all the roundabouts 😂

[@mrlister2000]

@@Dan23_7 The roundabouts are still bad in Skem! Infact, virtually all the roads in Skem have been forgotten about

[@stuartross282]

Skelmersdale was never finish still building new houses on sites that earmarked in 1970s Plenty of unfinished roads missing bridges

[@Dan23_7]

@@mrlister2000 I was up there a few weeks ago picking 2 Guinea pigs up from a house near Witham Rd.

[@David_D.]

@@mrlister2000 Trust me, I'd much rather have a town full of roundabouts than the endless sets of traffic lights we have here in Wigan!

[@colinbleach9390]

Brilliant video ...amazing to think of how many odd bits on the motorway

[@markfethney7086]

Wooo finally! The M58 is my local motorway, I can tell you those new slip roads at Jct 1 were a revolution. That meant us locals could get to the 24hr Asda in Aintree in a few minutes instead of going through Maghull or over a million speed humps via another route! Also handy for the tunnels saving a bit of time. Those ammo buildings you were at, across the road there is a (not so secret) helipad where army helicopters occasionally land ;) The Pimbo Junction (5?), the sliproads are really dangerous, I've lost count of the number of times an artic lorry wants to join the motorway as i'm coming off, always crashes at the roundabout in the mornings too. Thanks for the video John, been watching for a while now and have looked forward to this one. You should have called in for a brew mate :)

[@jonathonedwards6741]

Nice to learn a bit about the roads in the area I just moved to

[@mtc2300]

03:59 I grew up in the 1980's in Sorø, Denmark, with the missing part of the motorway between Ringsted and Slagelse (E66 at the time. E20 nowadays). The missing part of the motorway was opened in 1993 in time for the construction of the Great Belt Bridge. For many years us kids played on these bridges linking nowhere to nowhere crossing nothing. Today it's exit 37.

[@apb3251]

Love it, talks to the lack of investment in roads in the North. Also Kirkby is pronounced Kirby

[@PRCOM]

Bread theme song, wow that takes me back, great video

[@Sorted7]

I bloody love this channel

[@cfpaulm]

My favourtie so far!! Went to school in Maghull (loved your pronunciation!)..Looked like you were in Melling by the canal and your reaction to the jogger was priceless. Excellent channel, I think all your videos are great!

[@szymek_dude]

fun fact: google maps just had an update, where if you search up the name of a road, it will highlight it in blue, meaning you don't have to trace it.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

Not working for me on desktop or phone - I wish Google would 'get with the project' and colour UK Motorways blue anyway - or some other colour to distinguish them, and while they are at it making the junction number clear would also help!

[@8bitwiz_]

I just tried that with my nearby interstate highway. It highlighted two sections of the frontage roads* for a few miles, but left out a mile in the middle. *apparently the proliferation of frontage roads is something unique to Texas freeways

[@AutoShenanigans]

I wish the junction numbers were made clearer!!! With you on that.

[@paulscottrobson]

I can't make that work ; I wanted to see what it would do with the B1106. I live not far from the roundabout where they cross each other. Suffolk CC try very hard to hide it.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

@@paulscottrobson Neither can I. I thought it may be a US thing so tried a few streets in San Francisco, but still nothing.

[@liamholcroft7212]

No mention of the pimburgring at junction 5?

[@AutoShenanigans]

As soon as I looked at it on maps I said to myself "If I was a fiesta driver... that's where I'd be on a friday night" :D

[@liamholcroft7212]

@@AutoShenanigans well you're not wrong, pinbo is notorious for racing

[@AlexHitchins]

Thanks

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks to you mate !

[@S.ASmith]

1:00 I would too mate 🤣🤣

[@petercotton89]

Just wanna say, huge props for remembering all those facts you have to parrot back to the camera flawlessly! Great video 👍

[@AutoShenanigans]

Ah well, I dont want to spoil the magic but there's a script to hand at all times and with the power of editing... it's seemless :D

[@Cowley46]

There are some more abandoned ammunition storage units on both sides of the M56 just after Chester services. The construction of the motorway cut through the site.

[@Sarge084]

I know where you mean, they are popular with the cows when it's raining!

[@oli_gordon]

I thought they were garages

[@oli_gordon]

@@Sarge084 Thornton Manor ik

[@PeterESmith-hn6ll]

Almost an episode of " Canal Shenanigans " !

[@adriansmusic2445]

Have a nice week John :)

[@richardgale4827]

I don't like driving on motorways, and I'm not a massive fan of cars. I love the commitment of this channel, though. Subscribed!

[@thebazgaz]

I love Switch Island - my guess is that its an ongoing planning game to see how many more roads can possibly meet at one junction. I can't wait till they find a way to open a retail park in the middle too. At the Wigan end is a fine example of how not to let traffic flow, let's make cars from every direction cross paths with everyone else. A simple construction of 2 bridges, and priority given to the busiest routes could sort the whole sprawling mess. The M58 must have the highest average speed of any non-toll m-way in the UK though.

[@michaelturner4457]

I love Switch Island as well. Mainly because I remember it as a kid, in early 70s, when it was just a simple roundabout junction on the A59.

[@SaOuGenLa]

Looks like Graffiti man Fred to your right at the start of the video enjoys your channel too.