Secrets of The Motorway - M67

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The M67 isn't very long at only 5 miles but at one stage it was destined to be one of the most complex motorways on our network. In the 60s they wanted to create a trans-pennine motorway and the M67 was the ideal candidate allowing for a connection between Manchester and Sheffield.
If you're familiar with the M67 motorway, you'd know that they fell short somewhat of achieving this goal. Was that a good thing or not?
What the M67 does offer, is a small tightly packed urban motorway that divides towns down the middle, there's a hint of what "could have been" still lingering but for the most part the M67 goes about it's business with minimal fuss.
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[@JayForeman]

Motorway facts ***AND*** nostalgic 90s TV theme tunes and idents?! I bloody love this channel!!

[@lickyagyalcuz]

What we really need is a Jay and John crossover.

[@sedontane]

@@lickyagyalcuz the motorways song would be far less interesting than the counties one I fear!

[@RustyPetterson]

@@lickyagyalcuz What we need is a singalong! I'm sure our John would love that ahahaha.

[@MaverickRenegade]

Like a trip down memory lane. I often find myself looking for theme tunes for British tv shows from the 80s and 90s as it bugs me when I can’t exactly place the time.

[@nathanirlam3159]

JAY MY BLOODY KING!!

[@MrFoxCallum]

I like how John just keeps randomly changing location but keeps the flow of his monologue.

[@acciid]

It reminds me of "brilliant" from the Fast Show. Aren't motorways brilliant?.......

[@jacobwhite1360]

Honestly, auto shenanigans is one of the best put together channels on KZbin in my opinion. So simple yet so perfect.

[@lewismassie]

It's one of my favourite formats and if I ever made something that wasn't just a talking head video I would do it as well

[@jonathanw844]

He’s a pro!

[@jenniferfox301]

Script, maybe... why not? This one is local to me as Mottram Junction roundabout is just up the road. Shame I can no longer drive 😢

[@noelphilips]

The M67 is one of the strangest motorways in the country. The way it ends so shortly drives me up the wall, and the traffic through the rest of the Peak District is horrendous as a result! I wished they'd have connected it through to the M1 as they'd originally planned. Your choices to get from S Yorks to Manchester essentially boil down to sitting in gridlock through tiny villages (which I'm sure would prefer not to have that), or a massive detour via Leeds and the M62. Either way takes well over an hour when a motorway would cut that time in half. Ironically, the congestion and extra mileage of the detour via Leeds probably cause more pollution than the M67 would have!

[@richardhopwood7343]

You were right the first time, it is pronounced God-ley. This was the first bit of road I ever went "about" 70MPH on a couple of hours after passing my test in the early 90s in my Dad's Ford Granada.

[@izzieb]

"About" 70mph. Definitely not over, right? 😉

[@richardhopwood7343]

@@izzieb Well officer, there's always a bit off error in the speedos of these older cars 😉

[@ryanford5387]

Ah yes, it's always good fun to drive at _the speed limit_ after you've passed

[@PineappleSkip]

So you would have been delighted at the Granada ident at 0:08, hey?

[@SportyMabamba]

Can confirm, less than 60 minutes after getting the “pink licence in the post” slip from the examiner I was on a local dual carriageway going _about 70mph_

[@adecarnally5501]

Great video as ever! Seems to me that the main purpose of the M67 is to make sure there is a continuous supply of vehicles for the permanent queue at Mottram. Keep em' coming Jon!

[@azog23]

Godley is pronounced god-lee. You got it right the first time. Also, no one in Denton goes to the train station. There's only one train a week, heading north. You can't even get a return ticket.

[@highpath4776]

you could get a return to Stockport and spend 20mins getting a coffee in Edgely ( though the other week the signaller at Stockport forgot the train was due and left another train in the platform that did not have crew to work it), there was about a half hour delay to the incoming service and it must have left immediately after.

[@wteff8586]

I'd like to believe that was different before the motorway though

[@billystanier6327]

Its a good place if you’re a steam train enthusiast though, as Denton is the stopping spot for steam specials to take on water.

[@disappointingmarbleraces9028]

Pretty sure it's 2 trains a week, one in each direction.

[@highpath4776]

@@disappointingmarbleraces9028 It is now, the service was 1 day a week until about 4 years ago. though the saturday service was cancelled in covid and then , well, because northern, then it is back working. You can use the "return" from Stockport to Staylbridge Via Denton ( cheaper than via Manchester ), to return via Manchester on that day ( a fares oddity), but its not much use for getting back to Denton. The Reddish Station on the Line does get the odd excursion calling , and is walkable from the other Reddish Station.

[@PenryMMJ]

The main reason why the much needed faster connection between Manchester and Sheffield will never happen... is because it will bring no economic benefit to London.

[@mrglide7078]

See also HS2 delays

[@StrikeEngine]

Nailed it.

[@adamlee3772]

Well said.

[@Richard-io9xe]

Nail on head.

[@AndyHullMcPenguin]

Sounds familiar. If its any consolation, various Westminster governments have been not spending the money on dualling the A9 in Scotland since some time prior to 1977. Oh well, perhaps if I get reincarnated a few dozen times, I might see the work completed. I'm not talking bringing this major Scottish trunk road (the longest road in Scotland) up to motorway standard. Not at all, simply making all 268 miles of it in to a humble dual carriageway. Oh well, at least there were approximately ten fewer people killed on it in the last year, than in previous years.

[@northernbloke4356]

The M67 really has a feel of being meant for better things. The eastern end has a feel of a long distance motorway and then you see the end of motorway signs. The A57 east is a huge bottleneck and is used by loads of HGVs having to squeeze past on the single carraigeway. It is interesting to think if the Trafford centre would have been built had the M67 been fed through to the M1 at j35. It would have made Meadowhall shopping centre much easier to access from gtr Manchester.

[@bullfrommull]

Granada. Outstanding!

[@Ralnon]

This is just the most...British of shows :D - Love it.

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

The worst thing about this video is that I now have to wait another week for my Sunday treat! Thank you John for another excellent instalment. 👏👏👍😀

[@sedontane]

I'm slightly disappointed the closing shot wasn't shot in reverse, because all the cars doing 40mph backwards would have been the icing on another excellent cake shaped video

[@whichwasher2007]

As someone that uses the M67. I never understood why there was slip roads to the A57 and why the 2 roads wernt allready connected. Now I know why

[@rechnin6680]

Well thanks for that! Always wondered what that weird exit at Tankersley was!.. and the Outro is a quiz show!

[@chrisdennis5371]

Finally, my local motorway been waiting for this while you've been flying around the North West. Interesting fact, us locals don't have to worry too much about access to the train station as there is only one train a week and it doesn't even come back!

[@PeacefulSlumber]

I utterly love your videos. Nothing amusing or constructive to add, just keep doing what you're doing 🥰

[@neilwalsh4058]

The eastern end of M67 holds a very dark story too. It's close to the house the infamous Moors Murderers lived in. Not that you'd want to include that in your video anyway, but it no longer exists. After decades of no one wanting to rent it off the council it was finally demolished and 16 Wardle Brook Avenue was wiped off the map forever

[@HPsawus]

Also runs through Hyde where Shipman’s practice was located

[@timmatthews9621]

Thanks!

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks a lot mate, that's very kind of you, much appreciated :)

[@roblancs]

Nice to see an episode from Granadaland 👌

[@dominicgreenop9375]

Yet another great video! As I think I've mentioned before, what is now the M67 was intended part of a transpennine motorway network that linked Immingham/Grimsby docks with Liverpool, converging at or around the Eccles Interchange (M62/M60 J12) It would also serve industrial areas of Leeds, Manchester (Salford/Trafford), Scunthope and Sheffield directly, with easy links to elsewhere via the M1/M6. A truly brilliant road network if it had been achieved!

[@EmeyeP]

There was a local engineer who proposed using the Woodhead tunnels as an auto rail service similar to Eurotunnel. Trucks and cars would get on the trains at a terminal in Mottram with another near Rotherham. Problem is national power have put their power cables through the tunnels and they would need making liver to fit big carriages through.

[@billystanier6327]

That was a really stupid idea. The hassle, time wasted for loading and unloading, and congestion chaos at either end just for a short journey.

[@EmeyeP]

@@billystanier6327 it works for the Eurotunnel, and the idea was that HGV drivers could include the waiting and travel time as their rest time.

[@stevep7950]

Great Video but you could have covered the Mottram Bypass, which essentially would continue the M67 past part of Mottram. They keep delaying it but it is needed to ease the massive bottlenecks between the east end of the M67 and the start of the Woodhead pass.

[@tucker9162]

That is a right pain. Mottram Bypass is really needed. Then again, you wouldn't have the entertainment of watching Audis and BMWs trying to push in the Hyde Road roundabout.

[@jbconno]

They’ve been on about the Mottram bypass for as long as I can remember. Sadly it’s not looking likely it’ll happen anytime soon

[@Croz89]

I don't think it's planned to be a motorway though, just a dual carriageway.

[@philtucker1224]

John will happily comment on stuff that has happened in the past including very silly things, but I don’t think he will want to comment on anything that might be seen as “political” (just saying)…

[@RichardLordRix]

​@@philtucker1224 I guess that rules out any comments about the language used by one of the protagonists in the decade before the "slight disagreement" in Europe

[@electragaming4140]

It wasn't cost/benefit that sank the M67 through Longdendale and the Don Valley; it was the presence of the Peak District National Park and the massive opposition to building a motorway through it.

[@AB-on1on]

Here it is: my weekly dose of British humor about British motorways.

[@richard1313]

About 20 years ago I used to live just by that turntable. Incidentally it's also about half way between Myra Hindley's house and Harold Shipman's surgery. The M67 was the main reason we bought a house there as we wanted a cheap new property with easy access to the airport. We always called it Godley (not Goadly) but then hardly talked to the locals so maybe we were wrong too. We visited a couple of weeks ago and it really shows how my interests have changed over the years as back then I never considered exploring the old railway lines and canals of the area.

[@billystanier6327]

Also a stone throw from Dale Cregan’s hide out.

[@adamlee3772]

Good video again. It’s bloody criminal that various governments continue to fail to invest in the north. £12 billion for a tunnel? Imagine if it was in cockneyland? They’d just pour the money in but in the north, oh no.

[@lefthandedspanner]

what's now M1 junction 35A was originally meant to be a service area, hence the ghost sliproads on the north side of the junction the A616 Stocksbridge bypass is built along the line originally meant for the M67, but it was done on the cheap, so it's a 3-lane single carriageway and when originally opened in 1987, it had an appalling record for head-on collisions due to the overtaking lanes being badly placed the junction with A629 (Sheffield-Huddersfield-Halifax-Keighley-Skipton, effectively a trans-Yorkshire highway) is something very rare: a grade-separated junction on a single carriageway A616 used to run through Sheffield, it now disappears at M1 junction 35A and emerges again at junction 30 near Barlborough, making it one of the longest gaps in a major A-road

[@tobyjackman3212]

This is the best video I've ever seen about anything

[@donalddodson7365]

Thank you, Jon. Love the "thought process" behind starting and abandoning projects.

[@mcbeaverbob2440]

I agree, Nothing worse than having to fanny about on a local road.

[@FastAsFunk]

Excellent stuff thanks Jon. Always look forward to the SOTM videos. Also thanks to KZbin for supplying the 0.50x and 0.25x playback speed options so I can actually follow what's going on 😂

[@msamour]

I thought I was the only one. 😯

[@saltbjorn]

I watch these videos every week just to hear ‘wicked sweet awesome’ :)

[@SiRhodesDriverTraining]

There are 2 tunnels at Woodhead. The original from late 1800’s I think and the later one from 1950’s. The original is now structurally unsound and wasn’t wide enough for the Electric trains hence why the second tunnel was built. That is also now unusable for a road as it’s owned by national grid & carries major power cables through it.

[@damiendye6623]

3 tunnels as the original was a pair of single track tunnels. The new one is a double track

[@HPsawus]

I live right next to Godley reservoir, that’s trippy to see it featured in an episode 😂😂

[@peterspencer7027]

Sticking a solar farm on a reservoir is a great idea :)

[@steveclarke6257]

Couple of sites you missed.....1- the canal underpass at Hyde for the Peak Forest canal, 2- the house where LS Lowery (him of the matchstick men) lived in Motram......much more interesting than Useless Utilities reservoir

[@opathe2nd973]

I'm a Yank and have driven the motorways, but I watch this channel because John is such a delight! And he makes sense so that I can relate to the screwups in the US. Keep up the good job John.

[@AutoShenanigans]

Thanks mate. You watch Road Man Rob, he's the "guy" for US road stuff.

[@regularguy3665]

Used that road a time or three. At one time I just used to look for a sign heading roughly in the direction of home - heading to Nottingham from Manchester, Sheffield is clearly on the way. Imagine my excitement when I stumbled upon the M67. I thought ‘yes, Nottingham (via Sheffield) here we come. Imagine my disappointment 6 minutes later when faced with a bloody roundabout. I’ve also been through M1 35A countless times (used to go to Stocksbridge quite a lot) and always wondered who it was designed that way. Thanks to Jon I now know 😂

[@scrapyardwarriorvlogging]

Love this little motorway, my uncle lives just off here at Hyde 😊

[@johnf5817]

Perfect timing as I drove the length of the M67 yesterday for the very first time. Thanks John!

[@markjones1337]

M60 must be coming up shortly. Looking forward to that on

[@danielmarshall4587]

Have to agree with you regarding the solar array and how lovely to see some railway infrastructure,..... and thank you yes my week has been splendid.

[@jeremywilliams5107]

Cracking episode. All that for 5 miles of Manc motorway!

[@JMH7506]

Thank you John for keeping me sane. You’re videos are superb and I really enjoy watching them. Please keep up the good work buddy.

[@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe]

M60 First planned in the late 1940s, Finally finished in 2000. A lot of houses between Junction 20 & 21 Blackley -Hollinwood were compulsory purchased But after a slight change of route by 100 metres The Former residents were offered the house back at a quater of the price. To be honest the noise & Pollution made a lot of buyers interested not bother in the end . I believe some were demolished eventually.

[@ArferNower]

I want a job with the cost analysis team sounds like fun, turn up chat...collect loads of money and go away.....Brilliant

[@davidpanton3192]

Mmm. I believe Denton station gets one train a week so diffy access is not much of an issue...

[@SiPhillipson]

There's a rather macabre connection the Mottram end of the M67. Within a very short distance of the terminus (less than a mile) you have: - The site of the house where Hindley and Brady lived - The house where Harold Shipman lived - The site of the Dale Cregan murders. A bit of a grim quirk of geography.

[@borderlands6606]

Didn't LS Lowry live close by?

[@SiPhillipson]

@@borderlands6606 yes... And there's a statue near the crossroads in Mottram. I omitted that as he hadn't killed anyone... :)

[@borderlands6606]

@@SiPhillipson I added Lowry to counterpoint the grave mischief associated with the vicinity. The Longdendale Valley as a whole has a reputation for high strangeness. With apologies to anyone for whom that area represents hearth and home, it seems a very liminal place in every way, which is probably why Lowry liked it - part barren waste, part Manchester overspill.

[@typhoon2827]

I lived with a woman in Broadbottom. I used to tell her it was just our address not an instruction.

[@Elldeeve]

Thanks John. Have a look at j25 -m60 near Bradbury. South of it there is a clearing that goes somewhere. Where ?

[@ClarinoI]

Having the M67 go all the way to the M1 at J35a would make my life a hell of a lot easier. So obviously they would never do that.

[@mikegould763]

:-) enjoyable, I'm on that road every day, and I didn't know most of that

[@Fent1386]

Thank you John, my local Motorway this and it’s great to know things that I didn’t know. You said Godley correctly. A big misconception people think the motorway ends at Glossop when actually it doesn’t go anywhere near Glossop

[@harrykeogh6548]

Wouldnt say its nowhere near its about 10 mins away

[@iancharlton678]

It’s amazeballs how quickly your shenanigans have eased into my routine……. I am more educated than I was and I’m finding it easier to keep up with your speedy delivery……. jumping about from narrative to……….. narrative, with occasional diversion to irrelevant observation and conjecture. I hope the rewards match your efforts 🇬🇧🙂 As you were…….

[@AutoShenanigans]

Great to hear, thanks for watching :)

[@timsully8958]

On a Sunday morning catch up session and this was first. Fascinating stuff again. Being an old fart I can remember being taken to Woodhead with my dada to get photos of some of the last freight trains running through the tunnels at Woodhead portals. I must say I never considered the tunnel option likely because as a railway tunnel it wasn’t immediately fit for purpose and would probably be preventatively expensive. Another case of politicians coming up with ‘great’ ideas that have zero place in cold hard scientific and engineering fact (see also Marylebone express coachway idea, etc, etc) 🙄 Funnily enough there is a bit of a similar issue re farting around on small roads with crossing Peterborough (albeit in fairness the station is reasonably easy to reach 😉). Excellent use of old TV graphics and splendid music as ever. Love the ridiculously quick names list at the end like just about every single US production of the 1970s & 80s. The ones where they flash the names up instead of roll them were insane because you barely had time to recognise the first five letters let alone the name and what they had done! I’m amazed more people didn’t suffer a fit watching the end credits of “Vegas” or “CHiPs” 😅😂🤣 Cheers 🥂🍀👍😎

[@leopold7562]

Ah, mate, if you'd said you were in the area, I'd have popped over with a coffee for you or something! Oh well, too late now. The M67 is my favourite waste of time. Goes from nowhere to nowhere. It could've been brilliant and it still could be, except for that small matter of rather spending the billions on giving Londoners yet another tube line instead of letting us int' North get anywhere without the aid of a car. Granted, the spur into Manchester isn't ever going to happen, but now that Hyde Road has had the last of the bottlenecks taken out just past Debdale Park, it's a good enough road and there's plenty of room for those ski jumps to be finished off. And given that the Mottram Bypass is now happening, I can't quite fathom out why they've half-arsed it with a crap dual carriageway for a mile and then a single carriageway to make Glossop even easier to get jammed up in. Aside from the small matter of getting over the Pennine peaks themselves, there's loads of room along the old Woodhead line (now the Longdendale Trail) and past the Flouch roundabout to pick up with the Stockbridge Bypass. And don't get me started on that - another cheap-ass stunt that was, making the road barely usable and with no option to make it any wider, like the Eastern end of the M42 they cheaped out on.

[@chrish4904]

At 1:46, travellers would be waiting for the train at Denton. It's on a parliamentary route between Stockport and Stalybridge

[@philtucker1224]

I loved the interesting location jumps on this episode, really good fun! 👍

[@owenashcroft8167]

I'm fairly sure this video is longer than it takes me to travel the entire length of the M67 on the way to getting stuck in traffic at Glossop

[@dandann8237]

Always an informative view, thanks John

[@roynicol8353]

Well very presented . Filmed really well . Great to watch .

[@eddiemaylor2716]

My Grandad took me for a walk on the M67 a few weeks before it was opened, as he said It was possibly the only chance we would have. He lived in Mottram, and would have been happy for the M67 to carry on towards the Pennines and ultimately Sheffield. Unfortunately the M67 causes traffic problems on Mottram Moor and on towards Glossop.

[@pauleff3312]

I live in Chesterfield - I cannot understand why there isn't another road crossing the Pennines - I normally go via Snake pass which although pretty takes ages and ages. The north of England is underfunded, isn't it?

[@borderlands6606]

The Peak District became a national park in 1951, which stymied any development. On balance this is a good thing and Hope Cement Works (1929) gives a taste of what the Peak District would have looked like, otherwise. The mistake was to eliminate most rail transport in the Peak a decade later.

[@Manc-king]

Fun fact the bridge at 1:36 as you can see the work they have just started to replace it is scheduled to take 3 years the motorway was built faster

[@HPsawus]

Wow it’s really scheduled to take 3 years? Gonne get used to driving through them roadworks

[@joeweston3252]

loved the old railway turntable glad you featured it john,looks like a better system is needed with them bottlenecks.

[@AutoShenanigans]

It's really well preserved and surprisingly the "youths" have left it tag/graffiti free.

[@minijimi]

I find the infrastructure of the UK very interesting although I do not live there anymore. Good Job John.

[@scottshaw1310]

Mottram downhill to Denton. Favourite spot for an Italian tuneup👍🏻

[@antonycharnock2993]

Always on my trips to Manchester from Sheffield. Remember to stay in the middle lane though or you'll end up in Hyde...

[@JellyMonster1]

Enjoy watching these - quite different to anything else, thanks.

[@tomanderson6335]

The idea of a trans-Pennine extension using an old railroad tunnel certainly wouldn't have been without precedent. The original Pennsylvania Turnpike used utilized a handful of tunnels that had been excavated for a line that ultimately never opened, but instead of making them carry one direction of traffic and routing the other direction somewhere else, they just funneled traffic from two lanes in each direction down to one. Naturally, this caused traffic bottlenecks and the highway was eventually realigned, leaving the tunnels abandoned once more (except for the one that Chip Ganassi Racing repurposed for aerodynamic testing).

[@perman17]

Although to be fair, probably no one actually wants to get to the station at Denton. It’s only got one train a week in each direction. Which is a recent improvement from the one train a week in one direction only.

[@DitzyNizzy2009]

And part of the catchment area is closer to Hyde Central station, which has direct access into Manchester Piccadilly, as opposed to Denton (where you'd have to change at either Stockport or Guide Bridge).

[@thetimelord999]

It's always a good day when auto shenanigans uploads :)

[@mrbluesky2050]

Happy Sunday everyone....

[@paulsengupta971]

Have you had a good week?

[@joeweston3252]

Thanks

[@AutoShenanigans]

Cheers mate!

[@JP_TaVeryMuch]

The idea of one carriageway in the tunnel, t’other above ground is too good to let lie fallow. If ever they discover the required £12B money tree, it's got to be made to happen. If too narrow, re-bore it. Imagine the generations of future AutoShenanigans fans excitement levels as dad drove them ever nearer. I used to get incomprehensibly happy when passing over the Avon Gorge bridge on the M5 when a tiddler. Even more when you're suddenly transported to the Alps for a mile or so as the two sections split, one higher up the cliff of the "mountain" lording it over the much lower carriageway heading north: both clinging to the side for all they're worth!

[@johnmccallum8512]

If ever they discover the required £12B money tree, it's got to be made to happen. Tell the goverment that it is an extension of the London Underground and Bobs your uncle.

[@JP_TaVeryMuch]

@@johnmccallum8512 HOORAY! HOORAY! We're inching ever closer to my favourite chain in numerous YT comments sections. It goes something like this: Dat bluudee Lunndun. Suhthun bassτυδs always comes first. Many thanks. From Kensington.

[@Gordanovich02]

Alas, with Woodhead 3 now occupied by electricity cables, and Woodhead 1 & 2 far too small and dilapidated for much of anything, such a scheme would require a completely new tunnel regardless.

[@damiendye6623]

How the new woodhead tunnel is now used by the national grid

[@JP_TaVeryMuch]

@@Gordanovich02 Thought that I recognised the name. Those National Grid cables through Woodhead tunnel are by their very nature vast, heavy and nasty heat & EMF producers. Redirect them through the older smaller tunnel/s thereby swapping electric cable for electric car use.

[@shaunwest3612]

Great video John, very interesting as always,and a nice bit of railway shenanigans,nice!👌👍😀

[@Amathusukx]

They are still building that bypass to Sheffield and were set to start until the Campaign to Protect Rural England stuck their oar in, and now it's delayed until judicial review.

[@PhilReynoldsLondonGeek]

The M67 is one of those "should have been" projects... we ended up with just one proper bit not even meeting either end and a marooned and scaled down bit at one end. If it had been built in full it would have had advantages beyond those any CBA could calculate. The other "should have been" was the M64... though we did eventually get some of it as the upgraded A50.

[@motorwayman]

Nice video jon, service station videos are still my favorite. I do tours of them on my channel

[@a11csc]

nice one john with an added railway bonus

[@Pugjamin]

Did quite a bit of work at the treatment works at both Godley and Arnfield.

[@Mike-H_UK]

Floating solar panels over water rather than anchoring them to well drained terra firma where they are easier to protect, install and maintain? I bet there is a government grant involved somewhere...... Great video Jon, loved it!

[@GF-ep1pf]

I think I’ve heard somewhere they have the benefit of reducing evaporation losses in hot dry weather

[@timbounds7190]

You'd never fit any sort of M-way through the Woodhead rail tunnel! The Woodhead tunnel is quite big as tunnels go but you'd be lucky to fit a single road truck in. I can only imagine that they thought that it would be easier to expand an existing bore than to create a new one from scratch.

[@damiendye6623]

Should be able to get a bidirectional single carriageway in there as that what it had as a railway and as railway rolling stock is taller than a road truck when you take into account it was an overhead electric railway should give plenty of height. But since the national grid have adopted it it mean got no chance to use it now.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

Isn't Woodhead now full of National Grid power lines?

[@damiendye6623]

@@barrieshepherd7694 yes it is now unfortunately

[@timbounds7190]

@@barrieshepherd7694 Yup - apparently there are actually three tunnels -the first two built in the Victorian tunnels, and the other much later on which is much bigger to allow overhead electric wires. All now contain power lines.

[@barrieshepherd7694]

@@timbounds7190 As a child I would have travelled through that tunnel between Manchester and Sheffield Victoria on the electric train - the overhead line was at 1500 Volts DC.

[@MrGreatplum]

Another excellent video, Jon! Great stuff!

[@grease_monkey6078]

Never understood the reason it was short, now i know. I do wish it continued into Sheffield because the A roads get shut in icy conditions

[@dangerousandy]

Nice shot of the Woodhead Reservoir

[@RedoStone35]

Ads I got: Currys (#3) NatWest (#7) Galaxy S23 Ultra (#9) / Vodafone (#72) Kia Sportage (#25)

[@markarnold8160]

I guess the feasibility study guys also proposed the tunnel from England, Scotland and Northern Ireland to join up under the Isle of Man to overcome the Irish Sea Brexit border. M67 to M1 would take the weight off the M62 though.

[@SteveDull]

It's only too expensive if it doesn't involve/connect London.

[@VampMiku502]

Very funny fact is that on junction 35A of M1 that was opened in 1988 after cancelation of M67 project they are still ghost ramps that was supposed to serve M67

[@AutoShenanigans]

Cool fact, I should include it in a video. Maybe this one.. nearer the end ;)

[@VampMiku502]

​@@AutoShenanigans however official plan of M67 on pathetic motorways is NOT showing these ghost ramps in their full form

[@bfapple]

Finally a Sheffield-facing episode.

[@robdavies8702]

1:49 - I promise you no one has this problem in Denton.

[@tomgruitt6563]

Lovely bridge!! Cheers for the info btw.

[@rogerswift1983]

I wasn't aware of this one fascinated now. Looking at those pathetic motorway maps for myself I can see it was going to right though the town of Hadfield! meaning in that reality the league of gentlemen would have been filmed elsewhere and royston vasey would have looked totally different.

[@DanielMeakin1]

Fantastic video I really love this series

[@miniaturesteamnick]

Don’t worry too much about people getting to the station - it is only served by 2 trains per week, both on a Saturday

[@jamesabbott5242]

Awesome video

[@alangaming2003]

FINALLY MY LOCAL MOTORWAY

[@geosword6]

Bonkers that the most direct routes between cities the size of Sheffield and Manchester are basically two country roads (Snake Pass / Woodhead) that get shut down whenever the weather gets bad during winter. Meaning everything then goes up the M1 and along the M62. Even the trains between the two cities take about an hour. If this was London, they'd find a way to zip between the two in 30 mins or less. But if this was built, then all four of Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds and Sheffield would be a breeze to get to and from. Northern Powerhouse my arse.

[@SuperPluca]

I just stumbled over your video and am amazed. It is informative and you are so funny ^^

[@matthew1hyndman]

You do know Denton Railway station only get 2 services a week on Saturday Morning. I’m sure the 50 passengers that used the station between 21/22 (when the last annual station number were released) won’t mind using the local road to get there.

[@stevegbrough]

Yep .... that did raise a smile when he referenced Denton Station 🤣

[@AutoShenanigans]

Yes I did realise this... it was more about the illustrating the point of useful slip roads rather than un useful stations :D