'LIAR!': Cenk HEATED Debate vs Rabbi Shmuley | The Kyle Kulinski Show

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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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@ocek2744
@ocek2744 9 ай бұрын
The guy blatantly lies about Cenk to his face then says "Show some decency!" what a crock.
@viadharmawheel
@viadharmawheel 9 ай бұрын
He is the Jew that gives Jews a bad name.
@AnnieBadger
@AnnieBadger 8 ай бұрын
Schwuley
@bluecoffee8414
@bluecoffee8414 7 ай бұрын
Two disingenuous liar comments in a 'debate'. Waste of time
@ErasMcras
@ErasMcras 10 ай бұрын
"Hey cenk why are you calling me names? I only called you a holocaust denier!"
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 10 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!
@komlat253
@komlat253 10 ай бұрын
Lol fair enough I guess😂
@truthseeker-nv6ny
@truthseeker-nv6ny 10 ай бұрын
And the way he ends "that's such jew hatred I can't believe you're calling jews bloodthirsty" this rabbi is a pure spawn of satan
@Navy35
@Navy35 10 ай бұрын
Cenk is always calling people racist and bigots because they don’t agree with him. He also called people science deniers. He’s a biological denier by refusing to admit that there is biological differences between men and women 😮
@tonedowne
@tonedowne 10 ай бұрын
The guy opened by talking about Cenks presidential candidacy. It was nothing but ad hominem in order to get under Cenks skin.
@StarFighters76
@StarFighters76 10 ай бұрын
LOL The Rabbi instantly lost the debate the first moment he opened his mouth and said something completely irrelevant.
@dr.wolfstar1765
@dr.wolfstar1765 10 ай бұрын
How is it irrelevant? The audience should understand the type of person cenk is and how bad faith his arguments are.
@toddmorningstar4206
@toddmorningstar4206 10 ай бұрын
​@@dr.wolfstar1765Except you can't do that by lying.
@robertmcelwaine7024
@robertmcelwaine7024 10 ай бұрын
@@dr.wolfstar1765 What did anyone apparently not wanting to vote for him have to do with the issue at hand? He resorted to Ad Hominem's which is the tactic of someone you know you're not going to trust to have an honest debate.
@lachousalle31
@lachousalle31 10 ай бұрын
​​@@dr.wolfstar1765Anyone who has watched TYT for a long period of time knows that none of the shit he said is actually true. He's just lying and trying to manipulate the conversation so that he can stay on the offense. He's a manipulative sociopath. Just listen to that hatred in his voice when he talks.
@DehnusNorder
@DehnusNorder 10 ай бұрын
Sadly that's the scary part,his audience will love it, as he'll just ramble a lot of accusations and hit a few specific points and that's how they always role on that side.
@imnotmike
@imnotmike 9 ай бұрын
It's amazing that this guy spent his entire first segment of time flinging personal insults at Cenk without making a single point about the issue at hand, and then when Cenk responded he had the gall to complain about Cenk using personal attacks when he called him a bigot, and say that if you use personal attacks then you've lost the debate.
@aventura8491
@aventura8491 9 ай бұрын
Rules are for thee not for me, Goy!
@RandyLetellier-bu9eq
@RandyLetellier-bu9eq 9 ай бұрын
Cenk is fantastic. We need more people who actually care about the truth.
@thomasjosullivan9179
@thomasjosullivan9179 9 ай бұрын
We need more people like Cenk
@BullitCake
@BullitCake 10 ай бұрын
Dude has a PhD in gaslighting
@samara6041
@samara6041 10 ай бұрын
For real 💀
@lachousalle31
@lachousalle31 10 ай бұрын
Is it gaslighting or strawmanning?
@kotoroshinoto
@kotoroshinoto 10 ай бұрын
yes
@truthseeker-nv6ny
@truthseeker-nv6ny 10 ай бұрын
​@@lachousalle31he did both like when he accused cenk of ad hominim attacks after doing it himself and then saying smugly cenk at his age shouldn't get so loud and angry after cenk rightfully had outburst at his manipulation those were pure gaslighting tactics
@dustinsindledecker154
@dustinsindledecker154 10 ай бұрын
He knows how to bullshit
@Don.M.
@Don.M. 10 ай бұрын
He immediately lost the debate by starting with ad hominem attacks on Cenk, rather than attacking his positions
@tonybanks1035
@tonybanks1035 10 ай бұрын
as an orthodox jew I'm deeply ashamed and refuse to call this person a rabbi.
@silversurfer4441
@silversurfer4441 9 ай бұрын
It's found in all fundamentalist circles my friend. As a Christian, I have an uncle who's a Lutheran pastor who said to me once, "God not only allows us to kill, but he commands it." And then when I argued for a peace-loving and compassionate Jesus, he claimed I was the voice of Satan himself. Lots of murderous and bigoted quacks out there.
@lisabiibii1447
@lisabiibii1447 9 ай бұрын
You should also be ashamed to call yourself a Jew sadly
@hansyali_
@hansyali_ 9 ай бұрын
He as much a rabbi as I am the president of the United States. You can’t speak like this in the religious man who believes in God, and is supposed to teach others about God. It’s just not possible.
@QUINTUSMAXIMUS
@QUINTUSMAXIMUS 9 ай бұрын
You shouldn't have such psychological problems if you're a rabbi. I am familiar with certain people like him. Been around them too many times. They're pretty annoying, but I don't let myself react to them. They are self-important, but they are really insecure.
@THELIONSDEN-jw4ul
@THELIONSDEN-jw4ul 9 ай бұрын
How do you feel about the Jews in the ghettos. The ones who are called African Americans who are Jews Hebrew israelites from the tribe of Judah?
@alwaysbekind6226
@alwaysbekind6226 9 ай бұрын
This guy is a classic narcissist who pokes and pokes at a person and then when the person reacts, they gaslight them into make them think and look as if they are the crazy ones.
@mahamfatima3665
@mahamfatima3665 9 ай бұрын
Like every Zionists
@caramelbilquees
@caramelbilquees 9 ай бұрын
Yep I saw that tactic...he came in shouting excusing him of being a Holocaust denier and a Jew hater THATS CALLED BEING ON THE DEFENSIVE BECAUSE YOUR GUILTY OF SOMETHING
@Kate-Does
@Kate-Does 8 ай бұрын
You've just described Cenk perfectly. He's a lying buffoon.
@moe3235
@moe3235 9 ай бұрын
Remember fellas "it's only a 'tragedy' when the oppressor is hurt"
@danieliusblackius1130
@danieliusblackius1130 10 ай бұрын
That Rabbi was just being so overwhelmingly dishonest and avoidant. Really just a perfect representative for the current controlling Israeli government, unfortunately.
@skywolf2012
@skywolf2012 10 ай бұрын
MagaRabbi 😮😅
@dylanindahouse
@dylanindahouse 10 ай бұрын
Literally everything about Israel is based on a lie. Even Israel government funded a propaganda program called “Hasbara” and hire young students or Jews to be keyboard warriors on social media to change world perspective on Israel by spreading lies and propaganda.
@bladerunner3314
@bladerunner3314 10 ай бұрын
And for religion
@danieliusblackius1130
@danieliusblackius1130 10 ай бұрын
@porter9494 Even if not a genocide by some technical measure, they are literally trying tp push the Palestinians out of the area altogether. I don't think any rational person can look at what has been happening (and what has even been said!), accept the facts, and come to any other conclusion. They are trying to make sure that every Palestinian is either 6 feet under or does not have a home left in the region. And, in fact, Israeli officials have even said as much in both subtle and overt ways. But ask any of them directly about it, framing the situation up exactly as you see it, and they will lie through their teeth to try and preserve a face of innocent victim for Israel. Hamas (as repugnant a group as they are) is seemingly more honest than the Israeli government!
@smack2344
@smack2344 9 ай бұрын
@porter9494 stop copy and pasting hasbara bot
@LJohnson88
@LJohnson88 10 ай бұрын
This is my first time seeing Schmuley and I must say he looks like a guy that says the n word in his sleep
@lickshotpalmer1
@lickshotpalmer1 10 ай бұрын
And while he's awake.
@tommymoore8892
@tommymoore8892 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but maybe he's just having a whitemare.
@aerofred2002
@aerofred2002 10 ай бұрын
That's funny dude.
@jaredhicks1370
@jaredhicks1370 10 ай бұрын
In his sleep? Say Jesse Jackson's name around him. He'll say like he got a pass
@lolaali5158
@lolaali5158 10 ай бұрын
I can't believe a guy who looks like that is out doing pro-Israel propaganda. He's a walking political cartoon. It hurts to look at him. Then he starts talking and it all gets worse... If Israel were smart, they'd pay him to shut up.
@Eyrie007
@Eyrie007 10 ай бұрын
Shmuley is an absolute clown. He didn't want to have a conversation.
@QUINTUSMAXIMUS
@QUINTUSMAXIMUS 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, might as well call him Rabbi Schmucky.
@RagingFlamesRedGuyAttitude
@RagingFlamesRedGuyAttitude 9 ай бұрын
That's why I couldn't help but laugh. He seems more of comedian value. He can't be taken seriously.
@coletroutman1060
@coletroutman1060 9 ай бұрын
Hearing that dude speak actually rose my blood pressure… I care, don’t get me wrong… but there’s so many people saying such dumb things regarding this subject, I pretty much gave up trying to argue with anyone
@lexreport6627
@lexreport6627 8 ай бұрын
I know how you feel so forget everyone. I spend my time here on this app with the real humans with a mind
@FulcrEm
@FulcrEm 9 ай бұрын
I can't even finish watching this. That guy's lack of point and asshattery spiked my anxiety. Also. I don't know where the poll numbers are coming from, and it's way too early. But I will be voting for Cenk, even if I have to write him in. A lawn chair would do a better job than what we have right now.
@mnguardianfan7128
@mnguardianfan7128 10 ай бұрын
The frustrating part here is that it appears that Piers Morgan (and his team) think that Schmuley is 'the other side' to Cenk. They see them as equivalent just on opposite sides. Schmuley is disingenuous to the extreme. Cenk is a firebrand, but he has actual facts to back up his anger.
@mikejohnson555
@mikejohnson555 10 ай бұрын
There are basically two options, Piers Morgan is a complete and utter imbecile, like genuinely stupid. Or the second option is he is a immoral piece of trash that doesn't really have a "side" other than probably being a conservative personally, his only real concern is ratings and drama, create conflict, so people like us are here talking about it after because of what a mess it was. One things certain, Morgan doesn't stand for anything and doesn't have a shred of decency in him. If it was 1944 he would have a SS officer and a Gypsy on his show just for the drama, and try to play both sides from the middle.
@JerryPrivia-tu9kb
@JerryPrivia-tu9kb 10 ай бұрын
Their personalities are essentially identical. All of their arguments consist of yelling that their opponent is racist. I "side" with Palestine in this conflict but Cenk is just as embarrassing as the rabbi. When alex jones does his creepy/crazed pro wrestler style skits and tears his shirt in half calling everyone a racist demon, it's not that far off from these two having a normal conversation.
@morci7138
@morci7138 10 ай бұрын
Not only does Jake have arguments, but he’s arguing for all human life. He’s not separating anyone based on ethnicity religion color type of music you listen to whatever is putting us all in the same category humans the only real category.
@vaprex
@vaprex 10 ай бұрын
@@morci7138 Who's Jake? The cameraman? The sound guy?
@phlippbergamot5723
@phlippbergamot5723 10 ай бұрын
@@vaprex Cenk, can sound like Jake, if you don't know the language well, or just don't know who Cenk is. Some people pronounce it like Jenk or Jank which could be heard as Jake.
@darlenedowie2926
@darlenedowie2926 10 ай бұрын
Cenk wasn't wrong to call out this individual and call him whar he is!
@davidgafo
@davidgafo 10 ай бұрын
He should control his temper, tho... that is pure weakness.
@nsaurabh25
@nsaurabh25 10 ай бұрын
50 Cenk still denies Armenian genocide.
@rinzaghi2057
@rinzaghi2057 10 ай бұрын
​@porter9494Stop spamming. You will get reported
@YTsupportsZionaziGenocide
@YTsupportsZionaziGenocide 9 ай бұрын
​@porter9494 look up the definition of genocide since you clearly don't know it.
@Trip_Fontaine
@Trip_Fontaine 9 ай бұрын
@porter9494 That's like saying John Wayne Gacy wasn't so bad because at least he didn't have sex with the bodies like Jeffrey Dahmer did. Sorry for such a dark analogy, but what you are justifying is just as dark. Even back then there were some people that said it was wrong. Every enemy is viewed as "fanatical" in virtually every war ever fought. The propagandists make absolutely sure you think the enemy is fanatical. That's how war is justified. War is basically the same thing as terrorism. War is what we call officially state-sanctioned terrorism done by our own side.
@icmann4296
@icmann4296 10 ай бұрын
Israel didn't just oppose peace plans at the United Nations. Rabin was the Israeli president who got the closest ever to a peace plan between Israel and Palestine and he was assassinated for it, not by Palestinians, but by Israelis. There were Israelis willing to murder their own president rather than have peace with Palestine. And those people and their ideology persist today, as evidenced by the attitudes and actions of the contemporary Likud party.
@willieduffie4967
@willieduffie4967 10 ай бұрын
Indeed 👍
@JesseJones-oq9ty
@JesseJones-oq9ty 10 ай бұрын
Read acts 2 36:38
@jean-luceyesofyoureyes5502
@jean-luceyesofyoureyes5502 10 ай бұрын
Rip Ishtak Rabin... l
@Ellieempress
@Ellieempress 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@luguy8347
@luguy8347 10 ай бұрын
I didn’t know that, interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@Thecurseofsanity
@Thecurseofsanity 9 ай бұрын
This dude was about 10 times more insufferable than I could've possibly imagined
@CommonGround99205
@CommonGround99205 8 ай бұрын
Every time I see someone scream anti-Semitism while Israel commits acts of anti-Semitism against Palestinians, I want to scream.
@lachousalle31
@lachousalle31 10 ай бұрын
That other guy is a sociopath. There's no other reason for him to be the way he is. No empathy or guilt for knowingly lying. He just seems full of pure hatred and nothing else.
@ogg5949
@ogg5949 10 ай бұрын
Well, he's a religious fruit cake so of course he's full of hatred. But so are the Muslims. Religion is the greatest evil on earth
@SixOneNiner23
@SixOneNiner23 10 ай бұрын
Absolute dangerous sociopath
@whatsup9260
@whatsup9260 10 ай бұрын
he is well at home in Israel, sadly for the Palestinians.
@larryc1616
@larryc1616 10 ай бұрын
Yeah some form of ASPD
@justforgetaboutit5987
@justforgetaboutit5987 10 ай бұрын
@porter9494like it or not Israel created the problem called Hamas and is punishing and committing genocide against Gaza which more than half DID NOT vote for Hamas the terror created by Israel and like it or not Israel the creation of Europe has no right to be in the Middle East it’s just a bunch of Zionist Europeans killing and stealing from natives so it’s more like what Europeans did to natives of Australia, America and South Africa. They go in claim to have the right to be there, slaughter the people and cry when they fight back in this case Israel has been massacring Palestinians none stop since 1948 like it or not that fact up until august of this year in Gaza the IDF were killing Palestinians so Israel the terror created another terror and is using that terror to expand its land grabbing, to proceed with ethnic cleansing and not to mention the vast gas fields and the Canal that Bibi wants to build that cuts through Gaza which he had spoke about in September of this year shortly before the attack in which we find out the IDF also had a part in shooting its own civilians so is it a coincidence that the attack happened I don’t think so. Hamas is still in the pocket of Israel. Are you briefed enough about this genocide? Gaza isn’t Germany it’s the natives of every country Europe has invaded and killed.
@shekinahrodz8769
@shekinahrodz8769 10 ай бұрын
That Rabbi has no morals … how come he’s a spiritual leader ? Total evil
@utterlyviolet
@utterlyviolet 10 ай бұрын
Haven't you come across Christian leaders who appear to have no morals?
@dustinsindledecker154
@dustinsindledecker154 10 ай бұрын
He used to hang out with Micheal Jackson which tells you who he is.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 10 ай бұрын
He is CALLED a spiritual leader...
@user-cr4pz5yg7y
@user-cr4pz5yg7y 10 ай бұрын
All spiritual leaders are charlatans.
@theinvisiblewoman5709
@theinvisiblewoman5709 9 ай бұрын
I can’t think of many spiritual leaders who are moral to begin with
@thehumanity0
@thehumanity0 10 ай бұрын
The way they mute Cenk while this guy just slanders him to his face, while they then don't mute Schmuley tells you everything about the people who set up this debate.
@Millbro82
@Millbro82 10 ай бұрын
If that’s what you call a debate lol.
@nathanmiller3891
@nathanmiller3891 10 ай бұрын
It's mainstream media no surprise there. They control the narrative. Therefore they allow rabbi schmuckey take over with his asinine crap.
@Wakish0069
@Wakish0069 10 ай бұрын
Piers should have actually moderated that himself and asked fact checked them the best he can in live time. I think only the interviewer/moderator should ever be muting people and it should be for a clear purpose, they also need longer form interviews that don't rush people into having to condense their argument down Although Pierce is a joke anyways. The interview he had the other day where he was saying he doesn't do hypothetical questions was absurd
@svscared
@svscared 10 ай бұрын
Oh stop. Both of them were allowed to scream and interrupt the other like crazy. Cenk did so over and over again and Shmuley did as well. There was no favoritism here and they were both equally cringeworthy guests and debaters.
@thehumanity0
@thehumanity0 10 ай бұрын
​@@svscared You're absolutely deaf if you can't hear the favoritism in the audio alone, much less the fact that one guy just lied and did ad hominems nonstop without any moderation, while his opposition was muted. Also "equally cringeworthy" when one guy is advocating for a cease-fire to the violence and the other can't even answer how many dead children is enough to satisfy Israel's gov't. That's an amazing equivocation.
@udhelhc
@udhelhc 9 ай бұрын
Its good to have voices like you on KZbin! You are doing important work.
@ariananegron4679
@ariananegron4679 9 ай бұрын
cenk was real on this one
@ProMace
@ProMace 10 ай бұрын
If you're a 'Rabbi' attacking your opponent with ad hominems while sounding like a hissy fit schoolboy whose voice keeps breaking, you know you lost the debate.
@ProMace
@ProMace 10 ай бұрын
@porter9494 1. The 1949 Geneva Conventions declare it illegal to purposefully target civilians as an act of war. 2. Hamas does *not* act on behalf the Palestinian people in the same way that Putin does *not* act on behalf of the Russian people. Fact of the matter is neither of them give a damn about the well-being of any civilian population - including their own - and people who oppose them will likely be killed. You can call Hamas 'state actor' all day long, but that does not legitimize the bombing of innocent civilians. 3. You mention yourself that the world has changed 'since Vietnam'. Your examples may illustrate western hypocrisy, but how does this legitimize what Israel is doing to Gaza? You could also mention the thousands of US drone strikes that are still occurring till this day and have caused thousands of civilian casualties. It doesn't matter who is committing the crimes, they should *all* be condemned. 4. Dropping more than 7000 bombs on Gaza to 'break the fanatical enemy' will achieve *nothing.* If anything, it will further *strengthen* Hamas and severely destabilize the region. All at the cost of slaughtering many thousands of innocent civilians. Israeli officials have literally stated that their intent is to wipe out *all* Palestinians, not just Hamas. Please explain how their actions till now don't qualify as acts of genocide.
@geedee1264
@geedee1264 9 ай бұрын
And the Palestinains did accept the 67 borders in the Oslo accords, which fell apart not because of military action by any Palestinian, but by a right wing Israeli Zionist assassination
@ottz2506
@ottz2506 10 ай бұрын
Shmuley: "Cenk, why are you so angry and upset? All I did was call you a Jew hater and a holocaust denier on a large platform." Unreal.
@lw3764
@lw3764 10 ай бұрын
Yeah he's really slimy
@patlefofort
@patlefofort 10 ай бұрын
Says you lose a debate if you get upset and then proceed to get angry and upset.
@mnessenche
@mnessenche 10 ай бұрын
@porter9494before 1948, there also was no crime of genocide, so, what is your point?
@deathmachine808
@deathmachine808 10 ай бұрын
@porter9494exactly what he is
@ottz2506
@ottz2506 10 ай бұрын
@porter9494 Dresden was still a war crime because there was no distinction made and innocent people were needlessly slaughtered. I don’t care how much you try to rationalise killing civilians, Dresden was a war crime. You’re basically saying that it can be justified to harm or kill innocent men, women and children if it meets the goals you want. With Israel, this 100% is a genocide which doesn’t always = slaughter. And then there are the prominent Israelis who aren’t shy calling for genocide so they’re not being secret about it. I would say the exact thing if the power balance was in the favour of Hamas. If it makes it easier for you, just pretend that Hamas is doing what Israel is currently doing. I 100% believe you would call it a genocide.
@educprof2160
@educprof2160 9 ай бұрын
Its insane how Cenk won the debate before even presenting his argument, even his biggest hater would agree that calling someone an h*locaust denialist in the first minute its TERRIBLE OPTICS, and makes Cenk look like he is taking care of a toddler
@Smartiesmmm211
@Smartiesmmm211 9 ай бұрын
Thankfully you saw the truth. Hopefully the world saw it too.
@watupimerf
@watupimerf 10 ай бұрын
Shmuley is clearly a terrible human being
@mathematicalmuscleman
@mathematicalmuscleman 10 ай бұрын
The Rabbi is highly incoherent in his discussions and Cenk did give a good discussion.
@jusone4271
@jusone4271 10 ай бұрын
Wow that rabbi guy is insane
@eraldylli
@eraldylli 10 ай бұрын
Nah, he just follows Zionist playbook.
@swampsprite9
@swampsprite9 3 ай бұрын
Just a liar
@mobius7927
@mobius7927 9 ай бұрын
You've proudly been my primary news source for almost 4 years now and I've been meaning to do this for quite some time, so here's an early Christmas gift. P.s, if the subject of PSSD ever comes up on your radar to report on (it's just begun breaking thru into American media via the NYT), from one human to another, I wanted to ask you to at least remain agnostic on the issue, it'd mean a lot to me. Due to the nature of the subject, the right often likes to report on it more than the left, much to my dismay.
@Kate-Does
@Kate-Does 8 ай бұрын
He shouldn't be. Save your money and find facts that come from the ground. Kyle is just commenting on what's been reported by other sources, which are often highly flawed or partisan. So, go listen to some sources you think you might disagree with as well as those that you do. Look for facts, not spin.
@laraib827
@laraib827 9 ай бұрын
Cenk is very well spoken n stands for Truth n Justice. Very few honest news channels. Cenk and Ana and the rest of the news team.
@cserd8734
@cserd8734 10 ай бұрын
Israel’s answer to any criticism is to invoke the holocaust… typical…
@user-cr4pz5yg7y
@user-cr4pz5yg7y 10 ай бұрын
Remind them it wasnt even the worst genocide of ww2
@cbrfast
@cbrfast 10 ай бұрын
This is what I love about Cenk, he doesn't debate like a democrat. Who cares if people think you're being childish or whatever, fight venom with venom, go as low as they do.
@chrisnevergrowold330
@chrisnevergrowold330 9 ай бұрын
Cenk goes for the knees but he hits them with facts, that is the real difference.
@lass_chance1987
@lass_chance1987 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire! The world keeps normalizing all this nonsense, the lies and radical behavior the right side has been showing! Basically since trump became a presidential candidate for Republicans, the Republicans has lost their way and they are trying to bring the whole world down with them! These new republicans are all liars with no moral fiber in them! I'm just so fed up with this ridiculous radical behavior the new republican party has embraced and They're not conservative anymore, they became fascist instead and than they knowingly lie to everyone and even to their own followers to spread hate, fear and violence! Republicans are now 100% fascist, I doubt the Republican party will ever become conservative again!? They are so far gone!
@jordanpennington2599
@jordanpennington2599 9 ай бұрын
You sound like Hillary lol.
@josephjucker5620
@josephjucker5620 9 ай бұрын
As long as you aren't spewing BS I totally agree
@HH-jg4ju
@HH-jg4ju 9 ай бұрын
I been saying this to the roof top. You see how evil loud lying bullhorn the traitor republicans are? The democrats need to go hard. They can be just a vicious minus the lies because their policies are highly popular they act like they’re scared to blast those shit. The new dems in congress are Ruthless but them old guard are like Biden with all the friendly bipartisan colleagues across the isle talk shit.
@quincyquincy4764
@quincyquincy4764 10 ай бұрын
That guy is a rabbi? Lord have mercy
@jeanhartely
@jeanhartely 9 ай бұрын
Oh well. Rabid right wing Christians have their John Hagy and Kenneth Copeland, rabid zionist Jews have their Rabbi Shmuley.
@ongwehias7580
@ongwehias7580 8 ай бұрын
thats cocaine
@kkobwatchin
@kkobwatchin 6 ай бұрын
On us, not him.
@carlosipec2270
@carlosipec2270 9 ай бұрын
Let's put it like this: One side has no air force, no navy, no regular (real army). Move with cheap 125cc Chinese motorbikes, etc. The other side has what is considered some of the best tanks in the world. Full blown air force, navy, army. Even satellites and nuclear weapons! One side live on a concentration camp. The other side, literally, run the aforementioned concentration camp... Some might say these are all details... Are they really just details?! ;-) On top, STOP lying about Assad!
@theo7326
@theo7326 9 ай бұрын
“We will never forgive the Palestinians for forcing us to kill their children” Golda Meir
@nrsrymj
@nrsrymj 10 ай бұрын
Shmuleys one of the very worst.
@Ellieempress
@Ellieempress 10 ай бұрын
He’s obviously a MAGA Rabbi .
@objectiveperspective777
@objectiveperspective777 10 ай бұрын
I've never seen anyone be so disingenuous and aggressive in my life. This is unbelievable.
@nrsrymj
@nrsrymj 10 ай бұрын
@@objectiveperspective777 it's who he is. I'm quite familiar with his bullshit
@SixOneNiner23
@SixOneNiner23 10 ай бұрын
@@Ellieempressyeah Rosanne Barrs Rabbi is really projecting big time here. I wish people would take these people more seriously, they are absolutely dangerous.
@lindaleeyou1234
@lindaleeyou1234 10 ай бұрын
I am very disappointed in Kyle however because while there were 45% civilian casualties on the 7th many of those were probably caused by the Israeli IDF response which Hamas waited hours for. Hamas rebels actually waited hours and hours, telling their captives to call the IDF in, waiting for the IDF to show up, and the IDF most likely killed many hostages along with Hamas hostage takers.
@Nikkithedog-t6b
@Nikkithedog-t6b 10 ай бұрын
I think it was a very useful conversation, the rabbi turned many people away from the Israeli position. How anybody can call the stance that murdering kids and women is wrong antisemitic is mental illness.
@nisahmed9121
@nisahmed9121 10 ай бұрын
Biden already put American troops on the ground. Watch Middle East eye "Displaced Palestinian man from Gaza says soldier outside his home.
@nisahmed9121
@nisahmed9121 10 ай бұрын
Watch American cowboys aid illegal Israeli settlers farms in the West Bank .
@toxy3580
@toxy3580 10 ай бұрын
​@porter9494Israel funded Hamas. Your point is invalid.
@KevinUchihaOG
@KevinUchihaOG 10 ай бұрын
Sure, but didnt people just a few weeks ago say that it's anti-islamophobic, anti-arab, anti-palestinian to be upset about the israeli children who where killed?
@bpdmf2798
@bpdmf2798 10 ай бұрын
^^^ I didn't see that anywhere. Nobody was saying it was wrong to be upset at dead children. Maybe people said blaming Islam for the actions of terrorists is bad, but that's about it, people don't want random Muslims blamed for the actions of terrorists fighting Israel. Being Muslim doesn't matter, of Gaza was filled with atheists or Christians they would be doing the sand things because of how Palestine is to exist in.
@Insanemonk11
@Insanemonk11 10 ай бұрын
Cenk having a very obviously muted microphone, when Rabbi Douchey didn't, and Piers letting him say whatever he wants, and constantly talking over Cenk, just shows Piers probably tried to do this for revenge
@svscared
@svscared 10 ай бұрын
Lol yeah not like Cenk screamed out anything multiple times while the Rabbi was talking and vice versa. No Cenk was treated completely unfair here even though Piers has had him on a number of times and gave him the last word. My god the victim complexes in these comments alone show exactly why this conflict has existed for as long as it has 🙄🤦‍♂️
@Insanemonk11
@Insanemonk11 10 ай бұрын
@@svscared man, I hope you pull something from reaching so far to make a shitty point
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 10 ай бұрын
@@svscared victims? Are they not the ones being bombed? Oh the victims are doing the bombing??🤔 Victims usually do the bombing you say? Well then I am sold, carry on!😊
@lexreport6627
@lexreport6627 8 ай бұрын
Please boycott Piers
@mamir9708
@mamir9708 9 ай бұрын
I thought Rabbis were honest brokers. This guy is a liar and seems to have trained well on how to influence the listeners with utter falsehoods. He has actually managed to turn us against his narrative.
@Ziggy7411
@Ziggy7411 10 ай бұрын
And just imagine, THIS is the guy RFK Jr has been buddying up to on the Israel/Palestine subject. It's insanity.
@bridgetcole5772
@bridgetcole5772 10 ай бұрын
That makes me so sad.
@ImDaBaron
@ImDaBaron 10 ай бұрын
I remember Christopher Hitchens destroying Rabbi Schmuley in a debate. Didn't realize this guy was still around with his strawman arguments.
@thequeensjester8660
@thequeensjester8660 10 ай бұрын
I miss Christopher Hitchens. If he were hear today, Schmuley would get his ass eaten alive.
@Stagi566
@Stagi566 10 ай бұрын
Miss Hitch
@beeswillinherittheearth5084
@beeswillinherittheearth5084 10 ай бұрын
I didn’t know that existed I’m watching that after this. Thank you
@Gee-xb7rt
@Gee-xb7rt 10 ай бұрын
Schumley Boteach wrote a tell all book about Michael Jackson like they were best friends, he is so disgusting.
@carlosjuliop
@carlosjuliop 10 ай бұрын
I think Hitch would appreciate the fact that him being dead and this guy still kicking is the ultimate proof that there is no god.
@suetrublu
@suetrublu 10 ай бұрын
Cenk is doing awesome here! This other guy is a classic conversation manipulator, all the shaming and superiority.
@Coldbird1337
@Coldbird1337 10 ай бұрын
Yeah he channeled his inner Ben shapiro
@BoMau-ed8gq
@BoMau-ed8gq 10 ай бұрын
W_e___a_r_e___d_e_aLi_n_g_____with___p_aT_Ho_l_o__gi_ca_l____L__AR_____Pysho____path..........ZIOnost....government.....!!!!
@MrMalcolm900
@MrMalcolm900 10 ай бұрын
Cenk is doing awesome really? Yeah You must be a TYT fan boy.
@scotchbarrel4429
@scotchbarrel4429 10 ай бұрын
​@@MrMalcolm900💯, im subscribed to tyt for indisputable, and i consider myself a progressive. After watching that debate, i actually agreed with the Rabbi, and he made alot of historical references which Cenk kept calling propoganda. Not to mention, the emotional anxiety you can see in Cenk speech is disturbing, obviously as a tyt supporter, im use to it, but its becoming unbearable, especially when hes losing the argument.
@Ellieempress
@Ellieempress 10 ай бұрын
I’m such a young Turks supporter.
@pielero70
@pielero70 9 ай бұрын
Many of the people advocating for a ceasefire are in fact Jewish themselves highlighting 'not in our name.' Israel has a right to exist but so do the Palestinians.
@donaldcarpenter5328
@donaldcarpenter5328 9 ай бұрын
ANY NATION, any PEOPLE, any PERSON who cannot be HONEST with themselves WILL come to RUIN!
@unknownus63
@unknownus63 10 ай бұрын
That guy just called Cenk a Holocaust denier in the first few seconds of speaking. Wow, what a good debater.
@Brickerbrack
@Brickerbrack 10 ай бұрын
A master, one might say.
@dustinsindledecker154
@dustinsindledecker154 10 ай бұрын
Smhuley is a good bullshittter
@mij5786
@mij5786 10 ай бұрын
Average Jew playing the victim
@antenna_prolly
@antenna_prolly 9 ай бұрын
​@@Brickerbrackyou beat me to it.
@gaetano5669
@gaetano5669 9 ай бұрын
This is exactly what Obama and Hillary cultists (all US leftists) did over the last 15 years. You don’t like Obama? U must be waaaaycist!
@agxec2932
@agxec2932 10 ай бұрын
If this man (Shmuley) who's a liar is considered a Rabbi, you can only imagine how many lies he must be preaching to his followers and audience in a synagogue to fill them with hate.
@IbrahimAhmad696
@IbrahimAhmad696 9 ай бұрын
👍🏼
@Zerabonda
@Zerabonda 9 ай бұрын
Very important point
@cjlaity1
@cjlaity1 10 ай бұрын
Not a big fan of Cenk but I have to hand it to him for this one. When he started making yapping motions with his hand that was priceless.
@rmzidann
@rmzidann 10 ай бұрын
I loved the yapping gesture as well 😉
@robertmcelwaine7024
@robertmcelwaine7024 10 ай бұрын
The problem with Cenk, and I'm not a big fan of him either, is that he is too much of a hothead. This is the guy who wants to run for President and yet can't compose himself during a debate. Sure, it struck me that he was needling Cenk by calling him a bigot and a holocaust denier, but nevertheless. This Isn't the kind of guy you want running the country if he can't keep it together in spite of the fact that the Rabbi was resorting to Ad Hominem attacks.
@cjlaity1
@cjlaity1 10 ай бұрын
@@robertmcelwaine7024 -- he's never going to be president and he knows it so why should he change his behavior to act more presidential?
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 10 ай бұрын
Hahah I loved the winks
@mikebailey1284
@mikebailey1284 9 ай бұрын
I'm a fan of Cenk
@silversurfer4441
@silversurfer4441 9 ай бұрын
These religious types are supposed to be vicars of truth and God and yet can be so political and war-like and even murderous. What's up with that?
@hereitisagain4880
@hereitisagain4880 9 ай бұрын
The tactic of Shmuley attempting to discredit Cenk's opinion with his percentage approval in his campaign for president with the first words from his mouth, instead of addressing the issue, is despicable and adolescent. This man is a Rabbi? He is a very bad man. I am embarrassed for my Jewish friends to be connected implicitly with this person.
@elisemueller9967
@elisemueller9967 10 ай бұрын
I have waited my entire life to see an actual scoundrel . Congrats Rabbi! You are a phenomenon.
@MrMusicHed
@MrMusicHed 9 ай бұрын
It's like you missed the Drumph years.😉
@lyanjye
@lyanjye 9 ай бұрын
This is what Jesus said about these zealot fiendish fiends. Is Jesus so called antisemitic? Is he!!! Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life
@thomasjosullivan9179
@thomasjosullivan9179 9 ай бұрын
I agree Elise, there must be some Israelis that are ashamed?
@hefnasty99
@hefnasty99 9 ай бұрын
Strange thing to spend your life waiting for.
@SigKyle-pm4fb
@SigKyle-pm4fb 9 ай бұрын
Schmuley's sex shop in Tel Aviv can get gerbils at half price...
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 10 ай бұрын
Daily reminder: one of Rabbi Schmuley’s biggest fans and supporters is Roseanne Barr. Having someone like Roseanne Barr as your biggest tag along should have destroyed this man’s credibility.
@regant.cameron8237
@regant.cameron8237 9 ай бұрын
🤔 I'm shocked I like Roseanne But Schmuly is a revolting liar
@Westlander857
@Westlander857 10 ай бұрын
I’m only half Jewish, but I did grow up attending synagogue services and interacting a lot with the Jewish community, especially with those in my family. It’s so disappointing to see this. Rabbis were always comforting figures to be around. They were always great at telling stories and lifting people’s spirits, without being boring like a midwestern church pastor. Yet, bring up what’s happening to Palestinians with *some* of them (because there are pro-Palestinian rabbis and Jewish leaders), and that humanity and warmheartedness goes right out the window. Just, why?
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 10 ай бұрын
Well humans are hypocritical/inconsistent and are perfectly capable of compartmentalizing their views and holding incompatible positions on things.
@rodintremboy6459
@rodintremboy6459 10 ай бұрын
because religion. more specifically obselete, archaic fundamentalist religion.
@buddyman1990
@buddyman1990 10 ай бұрын
​@rodintremboy6459 They know that Israel's treatment of the Palestinian people has always been wrong so they have to pretend to be the victims to detract
@satiricgames2129
@satiricgames2129 10 ай бұрын
I agree as jew omg this sums up my thoughts 100%
@Ellieempress
@Ellieempress 10 ай бұрын
This Rabbi is an obvious MAGA Rabbi .
@farahnazkarimi8413
@farahnazkarimi8413 8 ай бұрын
The occupier has no right to defend himself. Francesca Albanese, an international lawyer, and Italian university professor, who has been elected as the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories since May 2022 for a three-year term, emphasizes that according to international law, Israel cannot face the threat posed by Occupied lands come to claim the right to defend themselves. When the war in Gaza started on the 7th of October, the eyes of the whole world turned towards the occupied land of Palestine. It seems that propaganda can no longer hide the crimes of the Zionist regime, and the West has failed to make Israel's black nature appear white. The world is now in a place where it knows that Israel has committed war crimes and must be held accountable. The Palestinians face the most important "existential threat" and Israel cannot claim the right to defend itself against the threat from the territory it occupies. Israel hides its crimes under the cover of "self-defense" and has not turned off its killing machine with this excuse. ​Every country has the right to defend its land and people in order to face the force outside its borders and its enemies. Although war and aggression are prohibited and sanctioned in numerous treaties, if a country violates the territorial integrity and political independence of another country, it cannot be seen that the attacked country cannot take action against the aggressor by citing the prohibition of war. According to Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, "In the event of an armed attack against a member of the United Nations, until the Security Council takes the necessary measures to maintain international peace and security, none of the provisions of this Charter shall affect the right to self-defense." Members individually or collectively will not cause harm, but they must report to the Security Council immediately. Therefore, according to the Charter of the United Nations, individual and collective legitimate defense is allowed by resorting to military force only in the event of a military attack. According to this charter and international law of the United Nations, only a country can use force to defend itself if it is attacked and its security is endangered. Now, with this interpretation, how can you give the right to defend itself to a government that has always been the aggressor and has never been violated! The occupation of the Palestinian lands by the Zionist regime's army and the policies of ethnic cleansing and apartheid, especially the decades-long colonial operation, deprive Palestinians of the most basic rights, and are a serious violation of the provisions of international law contained in the United Nations Charter and its resolutions, as well as the provisions of the Rome Statute and the Fourth Geneva Convention. The resistance of the Palestinian people against the occupation is not terrorism, but the right of legitimate defense that is applied according to international and humanitarian laws. In order to get rid of the encroachment on their land, the Palestinian people are standing against Israel with all possible means, including armed struggle, with stones, guns or rockets and drones, which is also legally approved. However, it is ridiculous and perhaps painful to say that Israel continuously encroaches on Palestinian land, but it is Palestine that is condemned and not even called an independent country in international forums. Palestine: A country that still has no place. International law has talked about countries, not about confrontation between a UN member state and a political group or people. First, Israel and the United States should clarify their position that they accept the Palestinians as a country or still insist that they are a group? If the Israelis and Americans accept Palestine as a country, they must accept international laws about countries and interact with the Palestinians according to it, and they do not have the right to violate them whenever they want to enter the border area of the Palestinian territory. , the citizens kill or injure them, or beat or detain them. On the other hand, a government cannot have control over the territory it has occupied and carries out a military attack on that territory claiming that it is "foreign" and an exogenous threat to national security. By precisely doing this, Israel asserts rights that may be compatible with colonial rule; For this reason, Palestine is only a non-member observer state in the United Nations; Because otherwise, Israel's brutality, aggression and killing must stop and they will also be obliged to respect the right of Palestinian territorial integrity. Occupation does not create a right. Israel's refusal to recognize Palestine, reinforced by US opposition to international accountability in the UN Security Council, has led to the conditions that exist today, a long-term military occupation; While the solution to occupation is to stop it. Due to decades of military rule, Israel has characterized all Palestinians as a security threat and Jewish nationals as their potential victims, thus justifying the disparate and violent treatment of Palestinians. In its meeting in 2012, the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination described the current situation after decades of occupation and repression as equivalent to apartheid, but Israel continues to treat the occupied territories as colonial possessions with complete disregard for international laws. Since the beginning of the second Palestinian intifada in 2000, Israel has presented the idea that it is involved in international armed conflicts, except for the war in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Accordingly, it argues that it can first invoke self-defense, under Article 51 of the UN Charter, and second, use force beyond the limits of law enforcement, even in the presence of occupation. But the International Court of Justice has an opinion contrary to Israel's opinion. The court argued that Article 51 contemplates an armed attack by one state against another state, and Israel does not claim that attacks against it are attributable to a foreign state. Also, the International Court of Justice declared that since the threat against Israel "originates inside and not outside" the occupied West Bank, therefore the situation is different from what is considered in Security Council resolutions 1368 (2001) and 1373 (2001). And Israel could not in any way invoke those resolutions in support of its claim of exercising the right of self-defense. Consequently, the Court concludes that Article 51 of the UN Charter has no relevance in this case; despite the decision of the International Court of Justice, Israel continues to insist on exercising its legal right to self-defense in carrying out military operations in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. he does. The Israeli authorities are currently committing war crimes and genocide of the Palestinians, and because of the support of the United States and the West, they think they can do whatever they want and not answer to anyone, but they should note that in the future this situation will change and all this Crimes are recorded in history. Hitler also once thought that because of his power, he could do any crime and not answer to anyone. But what was remembered in history was nothing but war, genocide and aggression. What is recorded in the minds of people all over the world from the name of Israel is crime, aggression and genocide. Regardless of what happens in the future, these titles are nothing but failure and destruction for any government and authority. ​
@UrbanPolymaths
@UrbanPolymaths 9 ай бұрын
Palestine needs to have it rightful ownership of its Oili, Gas, and natural resources - not stolen by anyone
@DannyD1199
@DannyD1199 10 ай бұрын
You can't debate with zealots. You can't debate people who reject facts.
@bpdmf2798
@bpdmf2798 10 ай бұрын
^^^ "which until Vietnam was the accepted way" Yeah, that was 60 or more years ago, that should never have been accepted and shouldn't be today. Just saying other people did it so it's ok to do is not an argument.
@Jessica-gy6kr
@Jessica-gy6kr 10 ай бұрын
I sure can 😉
@-YogSothoth
@-YogSothoth 9 ай бұрын
​@porter9494disgusting defense for Israel's brutality.
@bobw1811
@bobw1811 10 ай бұрын
To say that I haven't been the biggest fan of Cenk or TYT for quite some time now would be an understatement...but couldn't pretty much all the BS this Shmuley guy just knowingly dishonestly spread about Cenk and his company be considered defamation or slander? Maybe that's something Cenk/TYT's lawyers should look into.
@appa7769
@appa7769 10 ай бұрын
This.
@eraldylli
@eraldylli 10 ай бұрын
Man, Cenk is definitely a force for good. He's a bit difficult to like at times, but he's honest and a fighters for things good.
@rockinfender93
@rockinfender93 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard of this rabbi before, but there is something seriously wrong with our media. If they say this is the guy to take seriously.
@seanwhitehall4652
@seanwhitehall4652 10 ай бұрын
The guy on the left set a new standard for dishonesty this was insane.
@flawlessfootstomper7004
@flawlessfootstomper7004 9 ай бұрын
You can never change an oppressors (psychopath) thoughts or desires. They are psychopathic. And they have a way of passing that behavior and forcing their kids to protect that desire and thought. Just ask Americans who are black, and the battles they have to go through and have gone through and still have it bad because the oppressor now tends to act like a victim.
@mikewiz1054
@mikewiz1054 9 ай бұрын
Shmuley’s career should have ended when he debated Christopher Hitchens over a decade ago. He was embarrassed and made to look like the fool he is. I miss Hitchens. The world needs him more than ever
@steelgriffin7716
@steelgriffin7716 10 ай бұрын
Cenk lost his temper. But I understand it.
@toddmorningstar4206
@toddmorningstar4206 10 ай бұрын
I would too.
@ProMace
@ProMace 10 ай бұрын
Actually I think Cenk held his composure quite well. I would've cursed that fake Rabbi straight to hell and back.
@Insanemonk11
@Insanemonk11 10 ай бұрын
part of it would be immediately trying to stop the lies, instead of letting them pile up
@talyahr3302
@talyahr3302 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call this losing a temper at all. The rabbi wouldn't have a problem with Cenk yelling if it were a conversation about protecting the Jews from genocide during the holocaust. You should yell about those things.
@willieduffie4967
@willieduffie4967 10 ай бұрын
So do I....
@1stgenkpopfan646
@1stgenkpopfan646 10 ай бұрын
Man I can only watch a few minutes of this “debate” before it impacts my health. Man when you start with “anti semite” and “holocaust denier” and don’t show receipts, you’ve lost the debate.
@jodieholmes8453
@jodieholmes8453 10 ай бұрын
Cenk quite literally defended someone who says October 7th didn't happen the way it did. The people of Gaza celebrated on October 7th and Cenk says they didn't despite all the video evidence showing they did
@brendag5263
@brendag5263 10 ай бұрын
@@jodieholmes8453 ...Cenk has repeatedly stated he cares about innocent civilians on both sides. Disagreeing on details about October 7th has nothing to do with the holocaust, so calling him a holocaust denier is just smearing him.
@jodieholmes8453
@jodieholmes8453 10 ай бұрын
@brendag5263 No he cares about Palestnian Civilians. That's it. And he deserves the smear. He literally supports the destruction of Israel.
@Cinderella121
@Cinderella121 10 ай бұрын
@@jodieholmes8453what does that have to do with being a holocaust denier?
@synchronium24
@synchronium24 10 ай бұрын
Schmuley is demonstrating very well that for Zionists "never again" only applies to Jews.
@davidsmith-uw2ci
@davidsmith-uw2ci 10 ай бұрын
Criticizing the Israeli Government Is not the same as criticizing all jews. Just like hating MAGA or the American government is not the same as hating all Americans. I hate when ppl use anti semite or anything as a get out of jail or conversation free card.
@SciHeartJourney
@SciHeartJourney 9 ай бұрын
I keep thinking of the Resident Evil movies. The people containing the virus are the same @$$holes that created it. Eventually that virus is going to escape and destroy the world. 😢
@princeofsolomon3231
@princeofsolomon3231 10 ай бұрын
I love hearing these people talk, the more they talk the more then reveal their deep level of immorality and evil. Please allow them to keep talking...
@garfieldGG
@garfieldGG 10 ай бұрын
“Shut up. You bigot. You racist”- best comeback of the century right there
@BDKing-hh7pk
@BDKing-hh7pk 9 ай бұрын
Maybe not best comeback but he is right tho.
@garfieldGG
@garfieldGG 9 ай бұрын
@@BDKing-hh7pk nah, he looked really dumb saying this. That rabbi could be racist, idk, but nothing in this conversation suggests that.
@MrGreensweightHist
@MrGreensweightHist 6 ай бұрын
Cenk: Here's the issue. Shmuley: Here's an ad hominem attack and don't you dare interrupt me while I lie about you
@Atmost11
@Atmost11 9 ай бұрын
Shmuley is using many of the exact same "arguments" as Ben Gleib, enumerating all the times Palestinians were supposedly offered a state and supposedly turned it down, saying Gaza is no longer occupied, etc
@Stagi566
@Stagi566 10 ай бұрын
I fondly recall watching Christopher Hitchens dismantle Schmuley 😂. How I miss those exchanges.
@Mrhasbarafree
@Mrhasbarafree 10 ай бұрын
Hitchens spanked him.
@synchronium24
@synchronium24 10 ай бұрын
same
@hylomorpher
@hylomorpher 10 ай бұрын
Let's not forget Hitchens's Iraq war cheerleading. By all means, appreciate his rhetorical skills, but we shouldn't idolize him too much.
@Stagi566
@Stagi566 10 ай бұрын
@hylomorpher true he had a poor take there. I wonder how is postion would've morphed as time elapsed. He did have his biases just like everyone else. I do understand his specific one against religion.
@Mynestrone
@Mynestrone 9 ай бұрын
@@hylomorpher oh so you hate waffles?
@thebeefyleaf
@thebeefyleaf 10 ай бұрын
If Israel was 'out' of Gaza in 2005, how were they able to unilaterally cut off Gaza's water, food, and electricity after October 7th?
@seeibe
@seeibe 10 ай бұрын
Translation: They got a bloody nose and took their toys and left.
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 10 ай бұрын
That blood libel accusation was one of the most pathetic reaches I've ever heard in my entire life.
@synchronium24
@synchronium24 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Cenk has called out actual blood libel accusations against Jews multiple times on TYT. Zionism is anti-semitic.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 10 ай бұрын
It was right up there.
@sbeast64
@sbeast64 10 ай бұрын
The side that just caused 6000 children to bleed are talking about 'blood libels'...
@appalachiansufi5649
@appalachiansufi5649 9 ай бұрын
I agree with Cenk. There’s no way this dude is an actual rabbi.
@justatiger6268
@justatiger6268 9 ай бұрын
20:15 We're not in WWII, Israel is nowhere near facing an existential threat for Gaza as people in Tel Aviv and elsewhere are living their lives on the beaches and enjoying all the comforts of modern life. Yet, Israel has imposed on all 2,3 million inhabitants of Gaza the same level of brutality as Stalin or the SS did on its victims during WWII. I would argue that this grotesque disparity makes Israel's crimes even worse than those of Stalin.
@thehumanity0
@thehumanity0 10 ай бұрын
This conversation was basically designed to anger Cenk as much as possible from the get-go (as it would any normal human being). Makes me think the network execs thought Cenk was getting the better of Piers Morgan in his last appearance and so put him up against the most smug genocide-apologist possible to just slander him
@Blakecartersfs
@Blakecartersfs 10 ай бұрын
The rabbi is just a jerk. It’s a persona
@arettalayne3635
@arettalayne3635 10 ай бұрын
When you have no substance you attack the person.
@orvillecameron9836
@orvillecameron9836 9 ай бұрын
I was very pro israel for the first week after October 7th. Now, after watching how many Jews and pro-Israeli have been conducting themselves on social media, and watching how the Israeli government has been conducting themselves... I am much less pro israel than I was initially. Please don't forget that the palestinians are people too!!!
@tcf70tyrannosapiensbonsai
@tcf70tyrannosapiensbonsai 8 ай бұрын
The beardy called Shmuley is an agitator without any argument. Why are so many people keen on hate, conflict and revenge.
@cbrfast
@cbrfast 10 ай бұрын
Cenk did a great job!
@joeygemal5504
@joeygemal5504 9 ай бұрын
Your kidding right? He got crushed with facts
@km2530
@km2530 9 ай бұрын
@@joeygemal5504😂😂😂 You high?
@Kate-Does
@Kate-Does 8 ай бұрын
​@@km2530 Cenk is so easily discredited that even this idiot rabbi can do it!
@cyberiad
@cyberiad 10 ай бұрын
Schmuley is nothing like the picture I have in my head of rabbis. He's domineering, sneering and stupid. You can't really talk with such a dishonest, fanatical person. Much love to all the compassionate and intelligent rabbis out there whose hearts must be breaking.
@FrostyFlameTV
@FrostyFlameTV 10 ай бұрын
Kyle, I really got to give you credit here for consistently articulating a nuanced and informed position
@polyticks8453
@polyticks8453 9 ай бұрын
Piers Morgan is CONTROLLED OPPOSITION. ANYONE giving him credit for appearing level headed is out of their mind. That dude is not helping at all.
@maximilian3394
@maximilian3394 9 ай бұрын
STAND WITH THE PALESTINIAN AND ISRAEL PEOPLE/CITIZENS! STAND AGAINST THE GOVERNMENTS OF PALESTINE AND ISRAEL!
@billyrose2315
@billyrose2315 9 ай бұрын
Cenk is right point blank , oppressing people expecting people not to fight back is insane
@claude_k
@claude_k 10 ай бұрын
Israel opposed many resolutions at the UN, often supported by the US, and in some cases protected by the USA's veto!
@JoeLancaster
@JoeLancaster 10 ай бұрын
Cenk did really well to dismantle this guy while staying on topic and not being bullied. 10/10
@danielmulhern3375
@danielmulhern3375 10 ай бұрын
You know you’re on the right side of history, when you have to make things up about your opponent wholesale.
@Jonathan-ic9ef
@Jonathan-ic9ef 9 ай бұрын
I've come up with a name for guys like Rabbi Shmuley: Uncle Leos. It comes from the character of the same name in Seinfeld, who would blame every single inconvenience in his daily life on antisemitism.
@reyrey8527
@reyrey8527 9 ай бұрын
People need to stop confusing Cenk's passion for anger. I am exactly like Cenk and become louder with passion of making my points. Shmuley constantly tells Cenk to stop interrupting him but then he does it worse to Cenk. It's so gross how pro Israel supporters are always lumping in Palestinian ppl with Hamas.
@marlymarlle
@marlymarlle 10 ай бұрын
Piers seems to allow certain individuals to go unchallenged while he wont let others get a word out.
@user-cr4pz5yg7y
@user-cr4pz5yg7y 10 ай бұрын
Piers is most definitely a racist. He only lets through select things.
@sascharai1335
@sascharai1335 10 ай бұрын
Shmuley knew he couldn't argue Cenk on facts, so he chose to get under Cenk's skin to get an emotional reaction. Making Cenk appear to be unhinged and himself as this dignified persona to an audience that goes on visuals and feels and doesn't delve deeper on the issue. People who see this on live tv, don't stop and analyze all the facts, and are more prone to go on impression.
@justinmillette9110
@justinmillette9110 10 ай бұрын
Shmuley didn't look dignified at all.
@fxx4008
@fxx4008 10 ай бұрын
I love Cenk! If I lived in America and could vote he will have my vote
@jodieholmes8453
@jodieholmes8453 10 ай бұрын
He wouldn't have mine
@WhoOCares
@WhoOCares 10 ай бұрын
@@jodieholmes8453 nobody asked you
@jodieholmes8453
@jodieholmes8453 10 ай бұрын
@@WhoOCares cope
@jeffreywillstewart
@jeffreywillstewart 10 ай бұрын
We should be so lucky to get Cenk.
@jodieholmes8453
@jodieholmes8453 10 ай бұрын
@@jeffreywillstewart America would crumble in a year
@leahjewel6589
@leahjewel6589 9 ай бұрын
I love Cenk, he is always spot on and courages
@midnightpastone2080
@midnightpastone2080 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for talking humanity. That's what's it's really about- being human. Humanity
@kubeck
@kubeck 10 ай бұрын
I wish “news” wasn’t like this. This is why people are so twisted up. How do you allow this guy to be on air and just carry on like this. Sad state of affairs!
@ActionGamerAaron
@ActionGamerAaron 10 ай бұрын
That Rabbi is a living meme.
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