8 years later and it’s still helping beginners. Thank you
@stephenbennett60797 жыл бұрын
It should also be noted that either a loader attachment or any attachment behind the tractor (brush hog, disc, etc) requires extra tie downs.
@wagontrack5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post. it's folks like you that make youtube a great place.
@mikecurran4687 жыл бұрын
Crossing chains as you did in the front is unstable during a side impact. One chin will loosen while the other will lift in the air. Test it out yourself with a toy wagon. Cross the chains on both front and back of the wagon and you can roll it with very little effort.
@sonofatlas13722 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike you’re helping flatbedders out here
@captainedc7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just want to add that lever binders can pop off. I only use them for small machines, short runs and as a spare. Always pull TOWARDS you not PUSH. Unless you don't like your teeth. Lol. And don't cross them or let them touch. GOOD ratchet straps are better for small machines and light loads.
@born2flyau8 жыл бұрын
Mike, As this is a video on the correct and SAFE way of securing a tractor to a trailer I would have thought that after you realised that installing that over centre binder the wrong way around you would have reshot that section. Attaching an over centre binder that way you are risking getting hit in the face if you were to slip. As for securing it with tape I would have thought that wrapping the excess chain around the handle several times would have been more than enough to hold it in place. But as you say rules are rules. Another great video, keep them coming.
@kirkerickson1591 Жыл бұрын
wraps can jiggle loose, unless you tape the wraps
@lcee65923 жыл бұрын
I’ve hauled numerous cars trucks over the years and I always crossed the straps or chains to opposite sides. That is the preferred method if possible. (Straps will loosen with over the road miles so they need to be checked regularly during your run.)
@kirkerickson1591 Жыл бұрын
why is crossing preferred?
@chipchopngrind57988 жыл бұрын
Mike, thank you very much for the many great videos you put out! Im new to tractoring and had watched a ton of your videos before purchasing my used Mahindra 4110 loader with BH which I now use most days out of the week in my landscaping business. I would love it if you could you do a DIY video on giving your tractor a full servicing and the frequency of it and what that should include! Keep the vids coming, thanks!!
@michaelzurcher23374 жыл бұрын
You also have a couple of what's refered to, in the oilfield, as "worm hooks". Always put the load, stress or pull towards the body of the hook and not towards the opening.
@travelinthru95197 жыл бұрын
per dot chain can't come in contact with other chain
@danielscott97697 жыл бұрын
You never want to push away with the handle on the over the center binder. I see stitches or dental appointment in your future.
@inherentnature59382 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help! Wonderful video!
@TANGO222222225 жыл бұрын
Be careful hooking the over center binders that way as it is dangerous. If you turn it around it is much safer.
@robboudreaux20107 жыл бұрын
Tractor Mike. from a truck driver who normally hauls construction equipment. the lever binder should never be used, although if used you should have it set where you pull towards you to tighten. the exact opposite goes for the ratchet binder. there is less chance of it snapping your hand again the deck if you push away from yourself when tightening.( As where you can push the handle of the ratchet binder against the deck of the trailer with out your hand between the binder handle and trailer deck)
@danielscott97696 жыл бұрын
You NEVER push a binder away from you. Please correct this video. People will lose teeth and break their jaws if they follow this procedure.
@tilmangreenjr23655 жыл бұрын
I took a heavy equipment class at Texas A&M a couple years ago. The instructor stated that in Texas you are required to turn your Triangle Slow Moving Equipment around while being transported on a trailer. He stated that it isn’t enforced but it is the law.
@bobcole92747 жыл бұрын
Mike; With your influence with dealerships and through them factory's Suggest they add tie downs to the front of the tractors, a pet peeve but one shared by many with compacts and ruining paint and possible damage to lines that run near the axle. Thanks for videos. Bob
@TractorMike7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I have that much influence, but I TOTALLY AGREE!!! New Holland actually did that for a while, they had a big loop you could tie to that keep from ruining the paint. Seems like the manufacturers could figure that it would be a real selling feature and it wouldn't cost much. I'll plant a seed next time I'm around the movers and shakers and we'll see what happens. GREAT IDEA!
@donmcmannamy34096 жыл бұрын
Mike 2 things I was truck driver and 1 as some one els said you can't cross the changes as you did on the front of the tractor 2nd you attached both changes 2 the same place on the tractor both a no no
@stevek44494 жыл бұрын
Another technique to help prevent tractor stress on the chain in sudden stops or turns is to cross chain. Left front point pulls to the right and rearward right front pulls to rear and left. Rear draw bar left chain can point forward to the right and right rear can point left and forwards. Basically an X pattern the. Example in a forward quick stop in your method the front chains can loosen. In other method its harder because the front chains are pulling it backwards before and after a sudden stop. Less likely to loosen. Same for other points in directions. Basically its a counter pull opposite directions of movements at all times.
@kirkerickson1591 Жыл бұрын
Why does cross chain lessen stress?
@MrKen-longrangegrdhogeliminato6 жыл бұрын
Yep, if that slipped my friend, in a split second you be singing higher notes for the rest of your life. :-)
@gag10257 жыл бұрын
Mike I use 3" wide tie down ratchet straps with hook ends. Are these safe to use? I like them instead of chains because they do not booger up the paint.
@TractorMike7 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, as long as they meet the weight requirements. A lot of people prefer chains, but good straps work well also. I use them a lot myself when I'm hauling something that needs to stay pretty.
@travelinthru95197 жыл бұрын
you put ur binder on backwards .
@daveseiver4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very helpful!
@britttillmon84212 жыл бұрын
Thanks….good job!👌🏾
@lauromanriquez67052 жыл бұрын
Do you put tractor in or natural.
@Drew67098 жыл бұрын
Mike, it would be better to chain to the weight bracket rather the axle. Not ALL tractors have steering components behind the axle, Kubota for example. Best to chain to frame of machine instead of axle housing. You could chain to the weight bracket, cross chains forward and bind to front trailer hook points. (best done without a loader.)
@mbtx10556 жыл бұрын
Mike, what is the proper way to secure the front of a tricycle type antique tractor?
@TractorMike6 жыл бұрын
I don't know...I have several antique tractor guys who watch, maybe one of them will respond. I've never hauled one. Ever.
@dennispumphrey1006 Жыл бұрын
Mike, thank you. I am starting a new adventure into heavy hauling tractor and other heavy equipment. I am looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
@marksleeper37524 жыл бұрын
great vid
@mandulele7 жыл бұрын
Anyone have good ideas to prevent paint damage from the chain when wrapping it?
@TractorMike7 жыл бұрын
High quality straps or shop rags under the chains.
@shanesherwood55126 жыл бұрын
They make straps designed to go around the axle they work great used them many times
@brucebannerman68484 жыл бұрын
Carry
@brucebannerman68484 жыл бұрын
Spray paint to match tractor
@vicpetrishak10773 жыл бұрын
Old 4 inch cargo winch straps cut into 12 inch lengths . You will find these on the highways that have fallen off trailers .
@thomas250823 жыл бұрын
Did you use 4 chains or 2?
@TractorMike3 жыл бұрын
I use 4, but you can use two if they're long enough to have a separate length of chain on each side.
@mr.redneck27154 жыл бұрын
I think you are the only person that knows how to tie down a tractor properly!
@arlingtonguy546 жыл бұрын
If you read comments on any video showing how to tie down equipment you’d think you’d see tractors flying off trailers as they go down the roads. Why is it that only people that don’t know how to tie down properly make videos and all the arm chair experts don’t make videos? Just wondering.
@Drew-in-NoDak8 жыл бұрын
great video
@erob19506 жыл бұрын
putting a snap binder on you need to pull towards you not push it down
@pnq87877 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain to us why you cross the chains rather than go to the same side?
@stephenbennett60797 жыл бұрын
I believe it is thought that it provides greater resistance to the load moving side to side.
@tractorboy317 жыл бұрын
pnq8787. Chains are not supposed to touch each other. I do right frame to right trl and right drawbar to right trl so my chains dont cross never had a problem and i have some snap and some ratchet. I do 2 snap on front or rear then do 2 ratchet opposite works great. I prefer snap things that have some give like rubber tire tractors and ratchets on solid loads like non wheeled implements
@donmcmannamy34096 жыл бұрын
Don't hook the chain to the stake holder point on the trailer, run it though than hook the hook onto the chain than titan
@judybookout313 жыл бұрын
Trailer makers say stake pockets should not be used to secure a load.
@danaharris5037 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, What grade of chain do you use?
@TractorMike7 жыл бұрын
Grade 70 is what the folks at MODOT use and so that's what I get. I figure if it'll hold their big stuff on it'll work on my little stuff.
@Shovelups6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. Do you or anyone else have a brand of chain and binder they prefer? Made in China stuff OK or spend the extra money on an American brand? Thank you.
@vicpetrishak10773 жыл бұрын
Spend the extra money on American Chain . China and India chain ratings are mostly counterfeit ratings .
@ejm64924 жыл бұрын
That’s the way we did it in the Marines
@lsthreehundred4 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t have the snap binder away from you it should be towards you then you could use the cheetah bar and push up. Cuz now u have all that force coming toward you instead of away from u
@awakentruth11164 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't get it... you clearly did this in an unsafe and incorrect manner, especially with the center binder. Why not reshoot the video correctly? Or just remove it altogether since doing this method could cause someone harm?
@Skyhawk945 Жыл бұрын
Well done, thank you!
@donniebargo9642 жыл бұрын
You know if you only have 2 chain ratchets .I can show you how do it safely and just as secure as your method.
@WheelchairLiving13 жыл бұрын
Should be titled, "How NOT to secure tractor to trailer. " Don't cross chains and don't push binder handle.
@justinwall71855 жыл бұрын
You're gonna make the er rich with the way you use your binder.....its the same as using a knife cut away from yourself not towards your self .....same with e binder never put yourself in a position where the binder will bust at you
@benjamincuevas1994 жыл бұрын
I haul heavy equipment for a living. Mostly oversized loads. 130,000 pounds sometimes more sometimes less. I mean no offense but the way you secured that subcompact was wrong. Your chains can’t touch each other.
@bobmel32722 жыл бұрын
bad advice - never cross chains on purpose, plenty of training videos on this, so why it's suggested to do it in this video is pretty troubling
@scummybagger42136 жыл бұрын
As I expected, the guy chaining down the tractor wasn't that good. First the two chains on the front CANNOT touch each other when they cross each other. You must alter steak pockets so chains don't touch or pad them,,, no metal to metal contact. When you chain to steal pocket you must keep chain INSIDE rub rail so you won't break chain loose if you rub trailer against something. Second any veteran machine hauler that uses a snap binder will ALWAYS hook it up so you are pulling on it, not pushing, to lock it down. This way if you slip you wont fall into something and break teeth or knuckles. Also, you DO need to "Tie" the binder so it cannot pop open . But I always wrapped the chain around it and rubber bungeed it so it could not come loose. Worked just fine, cops no problem.
@drivin3796 жыл бұрын
Move tractor back Bout middle to end of trailer fender. Pull and drive better
@Silversmith9253 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even own an over-center binder. I personally know two drivers who both have lost an eye and severely damaged their skulls. I have been driving since 1975 and these were the worst cases I have personally seen and have heard of many more injuries. Do yourself a favor, shitcan those things.
@YNORUM6 жыл бұрын
Mike, I've seen you push a binder away from yourself in multiple videos now.... as others have said, NOT SAFE. Complacency gets people hurt. If you want to make videos, and have people following you be safe themselves, please take a minute to think through your actions, this is yet another thumbs down video....
@dsruddell6 жыл бұрын
get a real binder bar and you wont be scared
@clintmercer11592 жыл бұрын
What a mess. Breakover binders on rubber tired equipment, breakover binders used upside down, crossed chains at such a low angle that equipment could easily roll sideways from trailer. Please stop telling people you are going to show them the proper way to secure equipment.