Security Stories 10 - Dealing With Gangs

[@amstel5468]

We love security stories.. 🍿

[@WebSoak]

I agree! Just the most interesting!

[@THENEONARCADE21]

Yes we do.‼️‼️‼️

[@fokkerfilms560]

We do. I hit 'like' before they even start. 👍😄

[@Plumduff3303]

You sure have lived brother..

[@PhysiquePhilosopher]

Just wanted to sat that as someone who used to work in nightclubs and similar kind of world, all your security stories series videos are so real and genuinely best advice for people out there! Keep up this kind of content - love it bro :)

[@thatgearguy]

Thank you!

[@bibastarmedia9650]

​@@thatgearguyThe current situation isn't complicated at all. 1) Give huge prison sentences for such crimes 2) Huge prison time for being in a position of a gang leader 3) Do old classic "phishing/traps" 4) remove artificial complexities 5) Huge sentences for those who involve kids 6) Huge sentences for exploiting naive people in the "cookoeing" 7) Identified criminal gangs as a whole, receive solid sentences just for being an organised crime group 8) Many other things can be improved to make things work, e.g like if certain sufficient of quality or quantity of anonymous information received - this could trigger investigation etc.

[@bibastarmedia9650]

Practice shows that if person do not stop after even first prison time - re-offending after a first term in prison - he'll continue until he'll get in total about 12-20 years in prison Practice shows that roughly 12 years in prison gives motivation for an individual to stay away from crimes or he'll re-offend again very likely

[@TwiztedHumor]

This bloke is so underrated.

[@thatgearguy]

Thanks!

[@SCREEVER333]

I’m having trouble understanding why your channel isn’t much larger. All of your videos are so genuine. No tough guy shit, just real. Loved your video on bully’s. Such great advice. I didn’t need it because I’m the toughest guy that’s ever lived but for some people I’m sure it was incredibly useful and helpful. Concise. Thanks for your videos man. Love from the states.

[@thatgearguy]

Love the confidence!

[@BobMc87]

Love these stories. How about one with Walter Mitty door stories? Long story, I'm a hgv driver, I deliver all over Scotland, and I meet guys who used to do the doors. Most of them have some seriously unbelievable stories, they should write books on it. One of the best was, this guy had been with his wife for 17 years, and he went home one night and walked in the door, his wife looked at him and got off the couch, ran upto him and screamed "OMG what happened, what happened?" And he says "What are you talking about?" She replies "We've married 17 years, in all that time, this is the first time you've come home NOT covered in someone else's blood!" 😂😂😂 he kept a straight face.... I just nodded. Great videos mate! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@thatgearguy]

Ha great idea!

[@rangerwhite7091]

These stories are great. Really calm, articulate narratives. Keep them coming.

[@thatgearguy]

Glad you like them!

[@RitchieRosson]

Getting addicted to this channel. Brilliant stories.

[@rpfalz14]

You are a fantastic storyteller.

[@thatgearguy]

Wow, thank you!

[@stevefournier6375]

Your realistic stories are both interesting but educational, thanks for putting the work into sharing them on KZbin!

[@thatgearguy]

Thankyou!

[@RS-bt7gx]

You’re sharing some very important life experience here mate, nice one!

[@thatgearguy]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@straubulous9511]

It's great listening to your stories while driving. Thanks 👍

[@arandmorgan]

I wish more doormen were like you mate. Respectful, professional. Good on you.

[@thatgearguy]

Thanks! 😃

[@moiseshernandez1553]

I have learned a lot about dealing with certain types from your experience narratives.Thank you!

[@brokens1097]

It would be hard to apply a similar rational to an area like Chicago where multiple body's drop daily but I always appreciate hearing your insight.

[@TheGoodDoctorThrax]

Love these stories mate - you are a straight shooting, genuine and solid guy who speaks the unadulterated truth - rare qualities these days

[@thatgearguy]

Thank you!

[@treezarecool8901]

I love these so much they’re honest to god the best 🎉 thank you

[@MikeMac1980]

Being a similar age and done a lot of security work, not club’s but super market, there is a lot of crossover here. Not dealing in the market’s but the organisation of gangs helping them selves to help fuel the market. In the past if they had even the Including they are being watched, they would just abandon the trolley, not now though, they will just walk out with it, bold as brass. I’ve stepped back from this now as I have small children and the police won’t turn up unless it’s like 1k or over. Clown world.

[@richiehoyt8487]

I used to live in Galway, Ireland in the early '00's - not an especially violent place, but a big party town, with all the pubs and clubs concentrated around the main square and the sea~front emptying out at the same time, so lots of fights. Also, hard drugs were starting to make inroads in Ireland's smaller cities and towns about this time. Anyway, a mate of mine, now passed, was the victim of a rapidly developing 'cuckoo's nest' situation, with him being exploited by the some of the city's 'Travellers' (like Gypsies, but of purely Irish ethnicity) that were involved in crime - not that this guy (now passed) was particularly a saint, but there was 'no real bad in him' as we say here. Also, he was still trying to cope with a messy break~up, and was getting strung~out on heroin. His younger, more street~wise brother could see what was happening and was trying to forestall the impending crisis, but they were constantly sabotaged by their mum who had come up from their hometown and got a kick out of living in a party house. Anyway the crisis came when he came out of his bedroom about 5am one morning and asked 'the company' if they wouldn't mind holding down the noise. I'm sure some of you are way ahead of me, here - "Who the f%&k are _you,_ telling us to keep the noise down?!" someone answered... "Ah, you _know_ this is _my 'gaff'?_ (home)" he replied. A row ensued, with him ultimately ordering everyone out, mother and all. Surprisingly they _did_ leave, if not with good grace. (I suspect he may have threatened to call 'The Shades', Irish Traveller slang for The Gardaí, the Irish Police.) Well, such 'disrespect' - and coming from a perceived potential 'rat', to boot - this was never going to end well! Sure enough, he and his new girlfriend awoke an hour or so later to find themselves in a conflagration, with the Fire Brigade bursting in. Someone had come back to the flat and poured petrol through the letterbox, followed by a lit match. My friend and his girlfriend were lucky to get out with their lives, and only minor injuries, but they did need hospitalisation for smoke inhalation. It's chilling to think that they might never even have awoke, let alone got out, had somebody not raised the alarm. It's even more chilling to think some scumbag would have burned two people alive in their beds, over a trivial perceived slight!

[@fokkerfilms560]

Holy shit. 😮

[@Lucas-np3ru]

I found the bit about the gangs using inadequate young men very interesting, it struck a chord. When I went to pubs as a youth I do remember seeing these rather sad looking types who couldn't hold a conversation thinking that they were "in" with the bad boys.

[@craigbenz4835]

All I know of Brighton is your stories, which make me wonder why anyone goes there.

[@KolyaNickD]

I think it's an unpleasant place generally. All manner of fucked up people live there since the 60s, alcoholics and such are out and about in broad daylight.

[@firestarter1888]

Lived there on and off for 10 years. For all its floors, it is a vibrant, tolerant and fun place to live.

[@terrorbilly1]

@@firestarter1888 yeah "vibrant" is one way to put it lol

[@noelht1]

Well I was going to go to sleep but this came on my feed so I’m enjoying it. Loving the shirt/Gillet colour combo by the way.

[@thatgearguy]

Thanks bud! Filson shirt and shooterking gilet!

[@edward_98101]

Very insightful; thank you for sharing.

[@MrBirdistheword444]

I'm from the north east and over the course of a decade I've seen how worse knife attacks have gotten. Its not just knife attacks, but other brutal attacks. There's a street and its known for being rough and whenever someone from out of town asks me wheres to go for a good time i always tell them to avoid that one area. Its filled with coked up young feral lads. Ive seen fights break out over the most stupid of reasons and one party will pull out a blade. Or someone will of been jumped by a group of 10 to 12 lads simply because they got a thrill out of it. And there was this one particular group of lads that were going around and smashing people over the face with bottels and glasses. What's worse is that the door staff in that area are corrupt. Most of them are drinking on the job and selling coke to customers and are in with the gangs.

[@ShowRyuKen]

Love these videos. Have you ever had any run-ins with football hooligans over the years?

[@soulskater9821]

These stories really are superb!

[@thatgearguy]

@@soulskater9821 Thankyou!

[@petersoakell6950]

Keep on this. I think you are helping. Nobody wants their kids stabbed up.

[@ifell3]

Bless her for coming back to say thank you!

[@tuco86x]

Great stories again

[@craigbenz4835]

"Full of piss and importance" is a phrase similar to one in the U. S.: Full of piss and vinegar.

[@richiehoyt8487]

@@craigbenz4835 While familiar with the more common version, I like the one used in the video better.

[@robdubz1510]

Clubs in my town used to be way busier there was 4 very busy im in my 40s. Most under 30s i know dont drink or are into video games, or the small % that party , have to turned to houseparties.

[@barclaycalvert]

Yeees we love these stories,keep them coming if you have time please...........

[@JimmyChangE16]

Listened to these at the gym recently, quite therapeutic while pounding away on the Nordictrack 😂

[@alexplayford3628]

Always so great

[@impulse894]

Love the channel!

[@thatgearguy]

Glad to hear it!

[@dd776]

Hey, I think the next Security Story should be about staff or punters being bottled/glassed in the club. I am sure you have seen it loads of times and have had to deal with the consequences of being hurt your self. Any tips or anecdotes/avoidance would make an excellent video! Thanks in advance 🤩

[@MrBirdistheword444]

Another thing thats frustrating is that we had a wand because of the increased knife crime in the area and less than a month later we were told to stop using the wand as it was deterring people from coming into the venue.

[@thepragmatist]

Great video. Thank you! I have never been to the UK and these videos are completely intriguing to me. It gives me insight into the culture.

[@thatgearguy]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@user-oo6ty1yq2l]

Fascinating, as usual.

[@TheMercianMetalDetecting]

Oh to get back to the good old days when us mods, punks, skins and rockers could turn up in Brighton for an honest dust up on the beach.

[@snakeman9902]

Dam, just about to say, your avatar was the first album I bought, then instead of sex pistols, it said mercian... Got me 👍👍👍

[@fokkerfilms560]

😂

[@daviddasilva8383]

I absolutely love your stories. You are so NOT politically correct 😂. But everything you say is very honest, true and relatable

[@allosaurusfragilis7782]

Been watching a few of these, because your communication skills are excellent. Sorry, don't know your name but really good job!

[@thatgearguy]

Thanks! (Paul)

[@curlyteeth3097]

Hope you never get Alzheimer's ...your recollection is spot on and reflective to a tee to me as usual ❤!👍

[@jamiedalton2623]

The lack of common sense like this in government is becoming really, really demoralizing.

[@JamesTaylor-n1u]

As a 20-year expat, I tend to forget just how grim, tragic, and violent western nightlife is.

[@eddie4324]

It’s hideous isn’t it. I spent a small fortune in nightclubs and I’m not sure I had a good time in them, it was just the thing to do at the time!

[@alansmith4655]

Your stories remind me of Geoff Thompson.

[@seancidy6008]

Thompson had a lot less emphasis on defusing situations.

[@MarkL-we8uk]

Different times. Is Geoff still alive? ​@@seancidy6008

[@pasodoble5070]

Always great to listen to these stories. I can’t help but notice you never use the term ‘bouncer’. Is that considered a pejorative term in the industry?

[@thatgearguy]

I personally do not like the term but plenty still say it. Bouncer to me conjures up images of a dim witted bully..

[@cyberherbalist]

Just watched your 2023 video on "Weapons Banned From UK Ownership" and had a question that I hope you can answer. The question is, what about flint knives? A knife blade chipped out of flint can be over 3" in length, if the maker is skilled enough -- I've seen obsidian knives that were much longer. But even a short flint knife might be a problem. I happen to own a flint knife with an antler haft. I don't usually carry it around -- actually I don't carry it at all -- but if I did, would the police arrest me for it? The blade is about 2" long, and of course it's a fixed blade. I've been thinking about learning how to chip flint to make cutting tools -- just for the fun of it. I live near Brighton, and there is plenty of flint available just lying around on the coast.

[@thatgearguy]

Yes if it is sharp it would be controlled in the same way a metal knife is.

[@speckles9251]

I would wish for politicians to watch some of this.

[@carmcarm8230]

Great videos!

[@thatgearguy]

Glad you like them!

[@gilbertekkrkr]

The dark thumbnail 👹👹👹👺👺👺

[@lesallison9047]

Excellent analyses of modern times, just about gone, are the days of low-profile gangsters who just want the money and a legit looking lifestyle.

[@MarkL-we8uk]

I have done lots of doors in London - back in 2010 / 2011 an Albanian doorman from a club in Mayfair was shot dead as he arrived home

[@borderlord]

Brighton gangs have been going for a long time. Read Graham Greene's "Brighton Rock" published in the 1940s Very good film adaptation starring Richard Attenborough

[@benitolazio8193]

These truth bombs are the perfect antidote to woke self denial.

[@alansmith4655]

What?

[@philmckenna5709]

@alansmith4655 Never mind. Just go back to sleep.

[@huguggfyfuyuyg]

But but... diversity is our strength!

[@tornagawn]

Knife crime is a major issue in the UK, although it seems the majority of knives used are readily available and large kitchen knives….not readily snuck into clubs.

[@Jamie65-y4p]

That attack by a gang on the man pushing a pram a few days ago was shocking, is that what the UK has come to. Filming it and mocking him as well, what disgusting individuals. The footage is horrific, hope the individual responsible faces the full force of the law.

[@_Junkers]

Would love to know more about the Albanian prisons versus the UK

[@matthewpetell]

I agree not glassware for brits after 9pm! Same for USA. Europeans almost always drink respectfully. Even European college kids seem to enjoy the drunk without much bother.

[@jamesjarrett52]

Went to Brighton...thought it was a hole.

[@tornagawn]

Oh dear! Taking a machete to a knife fight? He’d be the ninja wearing Neon. Something like a Fred Perrin La Griffe…..far more concealable and deadly…… I used to do medical clinics in Prison, and remarked to a colleague on the inmates resourceful and clever nature……”not that smart…..they got caught” was the insightful response.

[@MnA_guru]

Would love a video about your background and how you learnt to read the street

[@MnA_guru]

And where you get the gillets from 😂

[@orig66Super]

If you had Crocodile Dundee on the door with you he would have told GoldTooth “Thaets not a knieaf.”

[@AnonSkibidi]

that thumbnail gave me a heart attack lol

[@redskyatnight123]

Wow I just had to subscribe again just thought I'd let you know

[@thatgearguy]

Thanks!

[@dd776]

I haven't been to a bar or club since 2010 and I always thought allowing drunk people to have glass bottles and glasses was like giving every nutter a weapon as they come in. Why do establishments still allow this? Wouldn't it make sense to just provide drinks in plastic bottles like they do at football matches? Maybe this is the case now as I have not been out to a club in over 10 years.

[@Adrianpublandlord]

Hey I am a publican by trade. I will try to answer your question- Many customers complain when given plastics also the cost of pet (plastic bottles) is much higher. I think the gov would have to blanket ban glasses for it to happen nationally. I have seen many people get glassed and it’s a horrible injury. I have also prevented many people from getting glassed as it’s the first thing I remove when people start arguing or being aggressive etc.

[@cornbeefturbo1282]

Because people shouldn't be treated like children and innocent until proven guilty is a principle we should live by. Plus plastic is extremely bad for the environment and we as a society should move back to using glass rather than plastic.

[@chrismario6371]

On one hand I agree on thw other hand let's just ban knives, fists almost everything. I've been glassed it's not fun.

[@tomobrien2628]

im working security in downtown LA, drug-addled and occasionally extremely hostile homeless. Luckily we can bribe them with snacks or the like and they usually go on their way

[@davekennedy6315]

Love these stories, you've defo lived an interesting life!

[@Will21st]

I used to bounce at a busy club on Brighton seafront and the amount of gangs from London and elsewhere was impressive. Black Music nights and venues were definitely a problem. The head doorman at the venue was black and even he said he doesn't want too many black guys in the venue. Go figure... and yes Sussex Police aren't exactly a great police force.

[@Soxandnicole]

This one time I was in a restaurant with my girlfriend. We were in a booth, the back part kept moving quite a lot. A bunch of teenagers were sitting on the booth next to us. One of the guys was intentionally moving the back seat in a jerking fashion. I asked him politely to stop, he didn't so I got up and TOLD him to stop with my "I'm very pissed off here look in my face" A few years ago that would have worked but this guy just started laughing at me.

[@heyheyhophop]

Camera seemed a bit out of focus, unlike it was a couple months ago, when the picture quality was just life-like

[@thatgearguy]

Same cam same lens!

[@heyheyhophop]

@@thatgearguy gotcha, interesting, wonder if it's dust or the problem is on my end :)

[@user-ng9gd4vl9s]

Any stories on working with other doormen who are unpredictable, lie about their abilities putting everyone in danger? Reason I ask I remember working at a bar and there was a woman security and there was an incident where her colleague despite giving it all that turned tale and put her in a dangerous situation. Turns out he was a notorious liar.

[@Paul-e9d9o]

Was the bird who broke the champagne bottle on the other one not as fit?

[@thatgearguy]

In my opinion no. The agressor looked quite masculine in comparison.

[@MarkL-we8uk]

​@@thatgearguyshe end up doing quite a jail stretch?

[@HeroInTheSun]

I could need a Bo'oh'o'wa'er

[@patmann9363]

You wan'ka😂

[@matthewpetell]

Did the Kray, Cray brothers turn up when you was getting started?

[@thatgearguy]

No but I did knock Charlie Richardson back because he was with a bunch of idiots. I said he could come in without them but he refused.

[@slipslider9048]

I guess you were working in the Honey Club based on the description..

[@thatgearguy]

Close but no cigar.. Zap!

[@mattw8332]

This county lines aspect is interesting and the grooming of young women and vulnerable men where they live in their own house or flat. Happened a lot where I live. Apparently a county lines operation with Liverpool some 200 miles away. Utter parasites. Still probably goes on.

[@aduantas]

Do you think clubs are becoming less popular? I only ever went to them a few times and thought they were shit lol

[@thatgearguy]

Yes for sure.

[@frankythehousecat2681]

Running costs must be extreme !

[@MarkL-we8uk]

A decent and well run bar or club will always do well. Unfortunately, a lot of NPC, corporate idiot types rode their luck during clubbing boom times and are unable to adapt.

[@KolyaNickD]

My uptake on all this - drugs trade needs to be decriminalised. Desperately so.

[@thatgearguy]

You may well be correct. The war on drugs will never be "won" via the methods currently employed. We need to address why people wish to use them to excess. The rat studies on this are eye opening. Rats choose cocaine laced water until they are given an interesting environment to live in. When they have social activities, an abundance of food, a comfortable bed, they ignore the cocaine. People are not that different in my experience.

[@noelht1]

Don’t know what the situation was in Brighton 30 years ago but the Albanians are running the show down there now. Openly running the show cops don’t do anything about it

[@thatgearguy]

No surprise!

[@ramosmceligot6223]

Yeah . Protecting the bouncers drug dealing racket .

[@thatgearguy]

We didnt have a racket which is why we picked up a lot of work. Plenty that did though.

[@vlnow]

Seemed from what i saw in early 2000's the doormen would search fror drgs to prevent competition and fee not paid. Searching for fee dodgers. Was only 50p tribute fee per pill sold given to doorstaff back then when you were allowed to be the supplier. ( plus the job given on the venue to them ). None tribute paying competition quashed. Funnily enough, this ( IMO ) is how border customs works too.

[@tomr2982]

Your ex NFL player, that wouldn't be Cliff would it?

[@thatgearguy]

I only knew him as "G"..

[@tomr2982]

@thatgearguy likely him, i know he used to be on the door at the event - I knew him from Brighton B52's

[@theloniuspoon]

dude if you guys are out exacting justice against local gangs and people are coming to you, you guys are pretty much brighton yazuka lol minus any criminal element but the bushido remains the same lol

[@thatgearguy]

Ha kinda. It was a long time ago. I am an old Yakuza now..

[@theloniuspoon]

@@thatgearguy the fact you were even willing to help somebody on some local gang work and it wasn't even your problem at all shows me you have a strong sense of honour and defending helpless people, definitely a british samurai!

[@eddie4324]

Ok, so don’t buy, use or sell drugs. Got it.

[@Johnconno]

Gangs? You mean Cowards.

[@thatgearguy]

I wouldnt say that was the most fitting term. Many were tough and formidable guys but their ethics were very skewed.

[@BonSkirmish1312]

Youre such a fantasist lol. Oh yeah, we just stood up to the albanians..... haha!!

[@thatgearguy]

Sorry the reality didn't fit your john wick movie knowledge.

[@BonSkirmish1312]

@@thatgearguy lol. nah.youre WAY off with that comment. Either youre making this u p or your "Albanians" were. Fact.

[@team419]

Stop saying females lol they're people not a species. Say women

[@davekennedy6315]

I was friends with a Cukoo victim. She was disabled and a Class A addict. This led to numerous dealers plotting up in her house over the years. She was even raped by these vermin (she didn't tell me at the time) But she honestly believed they respected and cared for her which I told her was complete bollocks. She ended up with having her door out through by the Old Bill multiple times. The only thing that stopped her being kicked out by the Housing Association was her disability and mental health issues. It didn't last though as eventually they had enough with her and the trouble surrounding her and kicked her out! Cukoo'ing is a disgusting, scummy practise.