Sega Saturn ODE ( Saroo Vs Satiator )

[@Co_dD]

Nice review. The Saroo it's the clear winner, OpenSource and still improving, SD disc image loading, Memory Expansion, Memcart saving feature, multiregion (lacks Hz change), no modding, no soldering, fast loading, SDHC EX-Fat, and a really affordable price and shops to acquire. I didn't find anything as complete in retro since the SD2SNES. Totally worth every coin I pay for It. The only drawbacks are compatibility, and a switchless region/HZ mod. Hope they improve compatibility and HighResolution load menu. Satiator it's also very good but with a obcene price and awfull buying options.

[@TheVetUk]

Spot on - I hope things continue to improve with it 👍

[@EmersonR666]

That's what I was looking for, a good analysis of both, Saroo and Satiator, thank you very much my friend, you did a great job for the Sega Saturn society around the world.

[@Vinnyzero07]

The satiator has a program called rings on it that lets you put pictures on your games and I think backs up your saves. It really elevates everything with it next level

[@TheVetUk]

Thank you for letting me know I did not know that 👍

[@LordVader.66]

I love original hardware. With that said, I like the high-end “all in one” carts with all the games for the original hardware. I just got a Saturn and bought a Saroo that has 250 games on it. I would go broke trying to track down Saturn games. Not to mention disk rot on old disk being an eventual reality

[@TheVetUk]

@@LordVader.66 I feel exactly the same on all your points 👍

[@StreetFighterAlfil]

Que gran consola la saturn! Ahí te sigo y recomiendo, si querés mira lo que hago. Saludos y éxitos.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Oh wow! This really is informative Vet. Great to see this from you and always a pleasure seeing you in action brother man. 8^0 Anthony..

[@TheVetUk]

Cheers mate 👍

[@QCJSiteB]

Hi Anthony 😂

[@Charlie-Cat.]

@@QCJSiteB Meow-Meow! Hi Daz. 8^)

[@kalvinravn8431]

I know it’s probably impossible but I wish the Saroo could Upscale like some emulators, 4K and what not….

[@maxinsano7376]

I think Satiator will always be more capable. Saroo has compatibility issues with some games, and even though it is open source I don't think the cart will play all the games unless there are future revisions. And as far as 4MB RAM and savestates - Pseudo Saturn will take care of that. I know it's more expensive for the Satiator, but it can play everything.

[@TheVetUk]

All great points 👍

[@alkalinex3]

I love my satiator plays everything

[@televiciousgoober]

Yea, the cartridge port though can be pretty spotty. Satiator works with 3 in 1 carts so ultimately I prefer the satiator.

[@TheVetUk]

I like the satiator to but it’s a bit expensive

[@televiciousgoober]

​@@TheVetUkoh wow, didn't realize it had gone up that much. I think it was 90 bucks for the kickstarters. Yea, I'd probably get a saroo and solder on a fresh cartridge port if I were to get one now. Though it does have pretty great compatibility and support and the media card port will never wear out. Eh, already got one so too late not. Saroo looks cool though for 60 bucks.

[@liamconverse8950]

I'm wondering, what about Sega rally wouldn't work on a PS1? I mean they have games like Colin McCrae rally and Gran Turismo

[@TheVetUk]

I think today someone could probably get it to work but back then due to the Saturns weird hardware the look would be different for start I as we all know about PS1 texture warping so I think it might not look as good if like today they did I multi ports back then and the first party studios had a better handle on the SDK so I should probably been clearer as to what I meant it was more back then that the PS1 would not get a port like the Saturn did in terms of release window and the look and feel of the game would not compare

[@gummislayer1969]

@@TheVetUk When it comes to 3D games...THAT sounds like a bunch of horse💩💩💩!!! Yes, on paper Saturn devs might be able to handle the SDK for first party games, ESPECIALLY 2D games. Buuuuuut...let's be VERY real - people all but forgot bout Sega racing games when Gran Turisimo, Ridge Racer came out. Further, direct comparisons like WipeOut and Destruction Derby that had superior textures and frame rates (on PS1) were embarrassing for Saturn owners. I'm kinda trolling here, lol!!! But, I'll be frank - I own BOTH systems & honor BOTH for what they do well. I REALLY don't play A LOT of 3D games on Saturn and conversely don't play A LOT of 2D games on PS2 (my PS1 has been long gone...). Bottom line - like what you like. But, say 3D games wouldn't be able to do the same or have better results on a competing platform is just disingenuous, Bruv...🤓✋🏾🤦🏾‍♂ Liked & subbed...😎👌🏾👏🏾

[@sega-re-trop-vieux]

The Saroo is a promising ode but the lack of the port cartridge ( obviously occupied with the Saroo) will make impossible the use of the modem. Also the action replay cheat code features ( which can be implemented I guess in a future update). Last but not least, the Saroo doesn’t work properly on a Hi Saturn Navi, there is no sound in any game.

[@TheVetUk]

They are very good points I forgot about the action replay I had heard of the issue with the navi Maybe one day these can be added and fixed

[@gargonovich]

The hardware could be revised to have a passthrough which would probably solve most of those issues, but PAR and modem support are probably not headline issues for most people looking at something like this. Besides, if you already have the modem and PAR, the Saroo doesn't require modification to the Saturn, so assuming your disc drive still works, you could just take the cartridge out and play those games from disc with the requisite hardware. As for the HiSaturn, I'm going to make an assumption here, but I would guess that most people who have a HiSaturn Navi aren't using it as their daily driver, they probably have another Saturn what with the Navis being a collector's item for the most part.

[@sega-re-trop-vieux]

@@gargonovich I have 2 Hi Saturn Navi and I play with it almost everyday. I have to check if the Saroo will work with the SGX. Don’t get me wrong, the Saroo is amazing. Last but not least, the cartdrige will bend the Saturn connectors if you remove the Saroo often. So once installed, don’t remove it.

[@liamconverse8950]

​@@gargonovich Yeah I have no idea what those things are I was just looking for a cheap way to play some saturn games

[@AzerWal-n4r]

Satiator use vcd port you can't use saturn vcd player with it to have nice clip video quality

[@QCJSiteB]

Might we know what games don’t work on the saroo? You only showed working games. Is it a large chunk? Any heavy hitter games that would suck to not have access to?

[@TheVetUk]

Hi this is the current list of compatible games github.com/tpunix/SAROO/issues/80

[@TheVetUk]

Most of the big hitters are fine it mostly seems to be homebrew stuff that has issues

[@QCJSiteB]

@@TheVetUk thank you!

[@BALDOGON]

With the Satiator installed, can the 4in1 rem cart still work?

[@TheVetUk]

The 4 in 1 does not work I think because of the boot process in the menu Action Replay tools, for backing up and flashing AR-type cartridges but that’s it 👍

[@j.w.yarbrough9190]

you sound a lot like cod3r

[@TheVetUk]

I’m not sure what part of the uk he’s from I’ll watch one of his vids 😎

[@HoroJoga]

I think you meant SAROO, not SARROO.

[@TheVetUk]

On the thumbnail of god what a Wally Sausage fingers problem 😂

[@dbnpoldermans4120]

are you playing in bloody 50hz?

[@TheVetUk]

That was the only Saturn I had to hand and yes it was a uk version at 50hz My daily driver is a first generation grey jap Saturn with a mode in it 👍 Well spotted 👀

[@dbnpoldermans4120]

@@TheVetUk The first thing I did with my black 50hz Dutch Saturn was mod it to 60hz. Easy mod, really. I just hate 50hz so much.

[@BongWeasle]

Has to be 60hz

[@pauljones8135]

Believe it can't load all games just yep and modem won't work

[@TheVetUk]

Yeh I believe the same mate

[@JC-xh8xe]

55 pounds? I'll just burn roms and do the disc swap trick thanks..

[@souljastation5463]

55 pounds is extremely cheap. Better buy it now becsue it might get expensive in the future. Also, I have a CD mod installed but it suffers reading copied discs. So, it's not a soulution.