Seiko 5 SRPE53 DressKX vs Tudor Black Bay 36

[@BadeniaFilme]

0:24 a comparison like this is not crazy at all. These are the most interesting comparisions.

[@Othusdragonreviews]

i always thought of the dresskx as the budget alternative of the black bay, great to see this video with them side by side

[@DesmondSG]

When the dressKX was released, this similarity was the first thing that came to my mind. So nice to see someone who thinks alike too!

[@Al_Prazolam]

I upgraded the stock bracelet on my SRPE55 to a $59 Long Island watch 20-16mm taper bracelet plus the $20 inverted end link kit and it made a huge improvement in the feel and fit.

[@BonDijon]

I was nervous the luster of owning a black bay would go away when i saw these seiko 5 came out, but there is enough design differences when compared "in the flesh" that even if they were the same price and brand (and material quality), I'd still go for the Black Bay. The devil is in the details indeed. Thanks for this video, mate.

[@urindejbwhi24584]

But the price...huge difference

[@realdaybreaker8013]

@@urindejbwhi24584 one has to pose this question... Is it really worth 10times the value of Dress Kx, what does it offer that is worth its price

[@vik574]

The funny part is not only do I not think it's not worth ten times the price, I prefer the look of Seiko by a large margin 😂

[@marcoferay5751]

@@urindejbwhi24584but the price it’s definitively worth it, Tudor is completely another planet, I’d rather save up and have only the Black bay than buying many lower budget watches. I love My skx and other Seiko I own but trust me the BB36 is the one watch collection

[@marcoferay5751]

@@realdaybreaker8013I own many Seiko and I own the BB36, it’s another world pal, trust me, the black bay is a real jewel, I also borrowed a Rolex for a brief period of time and the Tudor quality is absolutely comparable obviously not considering gold Rolex watches

[@Turbo9987]

Both watches are fantastic. The thing that's making me lean more toward the Seiko beyond the price is the 20mm lug width. I feel like the Seiko would be much more versatile than the BB36.

[@JackCampbell1999]

The seiko does not coming near in the realms of quality

[@resjon7981]

Sold my BB36 today as just couldn't justify the price difference. Paid £1680.00 for my BB36 and paid £116 for my SRPE55K1. The price difference kept playing on my mind so the BB36 had to go.

[@absar8304]

How did you get it for 116 pounds?

[@resjon7981]

@@absar8304 Ebay.

[@garynico9872]

quite a big decision, any regret?

[@alec-s]

You're n°1

[@nqobaniitaidube5582]

Was there noticeable difference between the two? Or is the Tudor just way overpriced? 😸

[@Mazel1975]

The BB36 is my grail but out of reach for me for a few years. I bought the DressKX which I call the BBKX to tide me over. It’s a fine little watch. I really enjoy it as a daily wear.

[@universe_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]

I was looking for exactly this comparison! So beneficial.

[@GFWatch]

Glad in helped 😋

[@mrartdeco]

I’m desperate for this comparison and finally found it.. I find my answer.. I’ll get the Seiko for now and getting something like a Omega/Tudor Bronze with the money I have left..

[@guystuff_tv]

I have the black srpe on a strapcode jubilee, and I’m loving it. 😎

[@epicunderstament867]

The BB36 is still my grail and would be a great companion to my Oris Diver 65 36mm. It interesting to know that BB36 and SRPE55 have very similar lug to lug length, with the Seiko having 40mm case width. Thanks for this video comparison. I will continue to save up for the BB36.

[@vik574]

Nothing against BB36 specifically but just out of curiosity, you don't find it a bit hard to justify the price tag of Tudar, speaking for myself, I like the look of the Seiko more. If I knew nothing about price tags and someone just showed me those two timepieces for the first time, and I had absolutely no idea which one was more expensive, I would honestly pick Seiko lol

[@trailblazer2339]

Thanks for comparing these two!

[@patricj951]

Seiko 5 SRPE53 looks great and is very attractive. The Seiko actually looks better than the Tudor. Nothing can justify the price of the Tudor.

[@psys.1217]

Sounds like you own the seiko 5 & you’re trying to justify/convince yourself

[@patricj951]

@@psys.1217 Not yet. But this Seiko with grey dial is in my shopping list. According to the pictures and videos I have watched it looks awesome.

[@psys.1217]

@@patricj951 enjoy your (soon to be) watch!

[@JohnKExp]

I own the blue seiko. It’s been half a year since I bought and I can’t get it off my wrist still haha. I do eventually want to get a Tudor though. Maybe one of the black bay 58 models

[@Tom-uj4uf]

You forgot to mention two important things: 1. Tudor has a 38 hour power reserve while Seiko has a 41 hour power reserve. 2. Tudor has 150 meters of water resistance and Seiko has 100 meters of water resistance.

[@drzaius844]

The BB36 was my first “luxury” watch. Although I still love my Seiko 5s, there is no comparison. See it in person before you make a decision. The Tudor bracelet is insane, way beyond anything I’ve seen before, and a major quality of life improvement.

[@sarperodev]

Wait till you see the Rolex Explorer 214270 :)

[@mouhrissani8588]

@@sarperodev and till you see the royal oak.. And it goes on & on haha

[@sarperodev]

@@mouhrissani8588 so true 😂

[@pas0003]

Great comparison! Really puts their prices in perspective. Considering that BB36 uses a regular ETA movement, the difference is really: * Crystal * Design * Brand So the bottom line is that you'd be paying $3000 more for "Tudor" logo and it's design

[@maitrehg]

You are partially right. We pay a lot for the name. However, the perceived quality when you hold the two watches is like day and night. Just the Tudor's bracelet is worth a lot more than the entire Seiko.

[@pas0003]

@@maitrehg I agree with the bracelet. I think that's where the biggest difference lies. Seiko 5 bracelet is indeed cheap both in price and quality. Does the job, but nothing else. I swapped mine out for an Uncle Seiko jubilee and it's miles ahead now in it's feel.

[@maitrehg]

@@pas0003 Uncle Seiko bracelets are great. I prefer them to those from Strapcode which are full of sharp edges and bulky clasps.

[@simunijima3327]

I want to make myself like tudor more for some reason, but hell, Seiko in my eyes is just so much more cool.

[@grba1234]

Real cost of both is much closer than retail price suggest. Tudor is 2000, but production cost is 800, and Seiko 200 to 150. I think :)

[@planetdee3587]

The Seiko looks very impressive and is a great bargain if you need something nice looking with quality. The Tudor is a great value in its own right.

[@pisanu6699]

It comes down to personal preference. Because nobody else shares and cares the love you have with your watch. We love watch because we love it.

[@ProperCh]

This is actually the truth lol. Noone will know or even care you wearing the Tudor BB36.

[@resjon7981]

As an owner of both the Tudor is better but I wear the Seiko more as the bracelet is very comfortable. Also the Seiko is a re-buy as I sold my first one due to misalignment.

[@carzakone333]

Hi, at 05:01 my BB41 acts the same, everytime I pull out the crown and set the time, it does not lock in, I need to push in and pull out again for the second time to hack and set time, is that normal?

[@ChisKH]

That blue is just mesmerising

[@WookieChewie13]

Does the Seiko at 40mm here wears smaller? They look similar even with BB at 36mm

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

Love the comparison man. Thank you

[@teamseiko5755]

Team Seiko 👍👍👍 Team Tudor 🦆🦆🦆

[@Trilogysworld]

I think the bb36 is on another higher level and is an excellent choice as Tudor will get more popular with time

[@magicanvn]

I saw the BB36 clasp problem on your other video. When you wear it on the bracelet, does it move around much and make you feel uncomfortable? I have similar wrist size and I think I need a really good fit with the bracelet in order to wear it, otherwise I would just swap it out for something else.

[@GFWatch]

I can get a good fit. The watch is not loose or anything. It's just that the clasp feels longer than the watch.

[@vintageav]

I just got the 53 and it looks fantastic. The only issue I found with it is the gap between the crown and the case seems too wide. All of the pictures and videos I've seen of the watch it appears that there is really no gap so I assume mine has a quality control issue. Anyone else have this issue?

[@comeonman7423]

Lovely comparison! Does anyone know any good steel or NATO straps to put on these?

[@flavio2169]

Why seiko can't go with 36mm size ? Why we have to pay to much for a 36? It looks to me that everybody today is looking for smaller watches than those big 40mm and above....

[@mrartdeco]

Depends on the size of the wrist.. For me it’s impossible to wear below 40mm.. 41mm 42mm sits perfectly on my wrist n 47mm still looks good.. but I envy smaller wrist to be able to use vintage watch comfortably

[@nguyenuchuy8807]

@@mrartdeco really !? i saw some big 8inch 8.5 wrists still wear 36 38mm with a manly look . my wrist 7.5inch 19.2cm still wear 30 and 32mm for daily on a big forearm . small watch for man , only see kids wear big watches on small wrist

[@centurio34]

40mm might sound like a lot of you have a smaller wrist, but with the 44mm lug-to-lug measurement, the SRPE series easily wears more like a 38mm watch.

[@flavio2169]

@@centurio34 I don't know why people use to say small wrist. Nothing to do with that. It's more about the dial that without a bezel like a diver pop out big.

[@lukdetroyer205]

Hi Flavio, try an older Seiko 5 like the SNXS79. I have 18cm wrists and those 37mm watches just look great!

[@Mahdi2807]

I love seiko, now I’m thinking to get myself a Tudor watch for my upcoming birthday,This will be my first luxury watch, i really like bb36 and BB58 now I’m confused i don’t know which one should i get.

[@GFWatch]

Both are BB58 and BB36 are great but I think BB36 is more versatile.

[@epicunderstament867]

Anyone know what size of screwdriver I need to use on a Tudor Black Bay 36 bracelet screws? Do I really need to remove the bracelet from the watch before I heat up to soften the loctite? Is it best to use a hollow ground screwdriver head? Many thanks in advance

[@melloweasel]

I may be a bit late to the party for this video, but the Black Bay 36 going for $4,000 RETAIL here in 2024 is absurd to me. $2,000-$2,500 is about the right price point for this piece, but Tudor honestly seems to think that they’re Rolex these days. You can get a number of alternatives with the same 2824 movement for much cheaper. With Tudor’s unjustifiable prices these days, I’m perfectly happy sticking with my Seiko 5. I have the SBSA043 (the JDM version of the SRPE53) and it’s one hell of a watch for the money. The 4R36 is every bit as robust a movement as the 2824 but it’s almost 20x cheaper than the Black Bay. Seiko is definitely the clear winner here as far as value for money goes.

[@CallSignJammer]

I love my 53. Glad I bought it.

[@FT4Freedom]

The difference don't add up to the price. And Seiko has used the dial layout long before Tudor.

[@gmotionedc5412]

I have just been comparing these two myself. Your video is helpful. You can see they are very similar in style and layout. Incredible. I love the blue dial Tudor wow so good. The seiko blue is not as classic or timeless as the Tudor blue. The BIG question is: is the Tudor 10 times the value, worth, longevity, etc than the seiko??? Help. I need comments to help me decide. I love the Tudor but 10x the price? Maybe just barely I can see that? I will say this if it helps: If I get the Tudor it will be a piece that passes down to my sons. Yes I can pass the seiko down as well but let’s be honest in 40 years or 10 years the Tudor will have more prestige and it’s this that may tip the scales for me. But I’m on the fence about this. Should it matter to me the passing down of the watch and what brand it is?? I’ll be gone so I won’t care and I assume any watch from me will be a keepsake and something kept in a box somewhere. And the reason I say kept in a box is because we all know in 10, 20, 50 years mechanical watches will relegated into the category of VHS, beta max, hi-8, and a ton of other outdated gadgets and formats. Comments let me know. Thx

[@resjon7981]

Over time regardless of what many will say to the contrary, the Tudor is a better watch in every way. It will wear better and appreciate or at least hold its value over time. The Seiko is a fun watch and nothing more. No contest.! I have owned this Seiko and returned it for a refund very quickly, I purchased a BB58 blue and will soon purchase a BB36. Why because I want to hand down quality to my children but still enjoy the time pieces whilst I can. I can imagine them arguing over who gets which Tudor. Now imagine them arguing over who gets the BB58 and who gets the Seiko! Lol.

[@jaysterling26]

@@resjon7981 ( unspoken truth) every parent has a favourite .

[@jaysterling26]

So you're trying ( or have by now)to decide between 2 consumable items that do the same job but have a huge differential? If you've got the amount to buy the bb why not get the Seiko as a beater ( even add sapphire)?

[@gmotionedc5412]

@@jaysterling26 I got the BB58 Blue dial. I love it. Perfect size.

[@TheSkite575]

Ha My kids won't give a dam about my watches I bought the seiko as Im not investing $ in watches.

[@brett2396]

I wish this Seiko came in 36mm!

[@GFWatch]

Yes. I wish for the same 😊

[@brett2396]

@@GFWatch I'd buy one right away!

[@steelsteez6118]

@KGR this!

[@tom1399]

If the Seiko was 38mm diameter, but everywhere else the same measurements, the lugs would obviously look longer, but it would look so much more balanced and better.

[@jimmylaw2136]

Tq. So you have both of these? You need to do a SOTC!

[@insightman9632]

Was looking for this. Thanks

[@amandeepsingh-id5xp]

Is it good for 7.5 inches wrist size

[@mikeritz4547]

Seiko is but for BB36 extra links would be needed

[@alec-s]

Links are not hollow but made of bent metal.... It's a different building method

[@finesse49]

Get rid of the snowflake hand on the Tudor and you'd have a great looking watch. I like the 36mm size.

[@steelsteez6118]

This!

[@AbhishekDey90]

Valid comparison imo, and new spb143 series is directly competitor to BB39..

[@vtcanada2000]

great video! did you talk about weight?

[@GFWatch]

I don't have a scale and I don't want to use my wife's baking scale 😅

[@stuartbrand5617]

I'm not a fan of syringe hands or dates on my watches. I looks nice but I have heard many stories about Seiko quality issues.

[@vik574]

That's a perfect example how different people are when it comes to taste and what we like and think it's preferable. I for one can't stand those snowflake hands, and Mercedes hands too as long as we're on the topic. Some of those watches are just ruined in my opinion by those choices in watch hands. Date and day window I can take it or leave it, as long as it's executed well, on this particular version of Seiko 5 it's not the best execution of the date, there is an all black version of this watch, the date on that one is absolutely perfect.

[@renemaue1963]

I don`t get over it how you throw both watches down comparing the bracelets. The Tudor definately and even the Seiko doesn`t deserve this. But nice comparsion though! :)

[@SunsetSheen]

If that Seiko had a sapphire crystal, solid end links, decent clasp, and 200M wr it would’ve been one of the best value props out there. Charge $500 and people would line up for them. I love Seiko but they’re always cutting corners. San Martin makes superior quality watches and sells them for $250. No reason that Seiko with their economies of scale can’t produce a top quality watch for $500.

[@GFWatch]

Seiko does have those spec. The latest being the SPB155, 157, 159. Seiko is a company that offers watches in all price category. This, to me, is a good thing as they have everything to suit everybody from budding enthusiasts to pro collectors.

[@Unam469]

Here’s the obligatory; this watch needs a sapphire crystal, better bracelet, and more water resistance. I mean why tf would you need 200m water resistance in that type of watch.

[@Marco-kn8rg]

@@GFWatch I Love seiko, but come on, they don Make decent clasps even at 5k price point.

[@pasquale78]

While I agree, I still think that it's a good value proposition.

[@glen193]

Agree on all points. Great post. While I own this Seiko, I would have loved to have had an opportunity to purchase the version you describe. As it stands, I've added a saphire crystal and solid link after market bracelet. Even so, the WR still remains at 100m. I now have a little over $350 invested in the watch given it's original price and including the upgrades - which is still quite reasonable IMO. That is one of the advantages of the Seiko lines - the almost endless aftermarket ability to upgrade and or mod. In the meantime, if I need more water resistant, I simply switch to my Seiko turtle. Having stated all that, I would be lying if I didn't admit I would much much more prefer the Tudor version compared here. But, given my lifestyle and current family & financial priorities, it is difficult for me to justify the price difference between the 2. No doubt the Tudor is beautiful and the finer luxery choice, but both are fantastic watches in their respective categories imo.

[@Leventgursoy11]

2 months ago i bought the black one just for reason

[@comeonman7423]

Question is: is the BB36 worth the extra money?

[@resjon7981]

In about 30 plus years time at a Sotherbys auction people will be bidding for the well used Tudor where as the Seiko will be on ebay or shpock being sold for pennies in the dollar.

[@comeonman7423]

@@resjon7981 sounds about right but I’m sure rare Seikos will be worth a lot like vintage Casio’s

[@resjon7981]

@@comeonman7423 Yes indeed but unfortunately not this Seiko. I have owned one and returned it quickly for a refund.

[@comeonman7423]

@@resjon7981 the funny thing is that I bought one and want to sell it as it’s the cheaper alternative to the BB36. Looking to buy a BB36.

[@resjon7981]

@@comeonman7423 The BB36 is the type of watch you can buy and not wear but still enjoy owning. You will understand when you get one. The Seiko is the type of watch that you buy and wear for a short while then sell.

[@marcoferay5751]

I have both Seiko and Tudor and I love them both but have to say Tudor is another planet, when I wear it I understand the meaning of the word luxury watch and where all the money went, the feeling, the wearability everything is so much superior. The BB36 would be my only watch if I had to choose one and it’s definitively worth it.

[@junemeds801]

Seiko the best 🎉❤

[@jaysterling26]

Looking at the day of the Seiko looks like it was made for the Roman Market ( it'd drive the Portuguese crazy).

[@nunoarquitecto6451]

Why?

[@vascosilva1765]

Why?

[@Cityadventurers]

DLLMCH. The Seiko 5 is based off the vintage Seiko SKX. This design has been around since 1978. Ong lun 9. The markers are the same. The crown is uniquely at four O’ clock. Who the fuxk says Seiko copied Tudor?

[@Visitor555]

Where you buy that Seiko with roman numerals and what i need to watch to know it will came in with roman numerals when i purchase it?

[@GFWatch]

The roman numerals days version is region specific. If I'm not mistaken you can find in Asia. I don't think Seiko has any special appendix on the part numbers for them.

[@alizzey22]

The only 2 things i see identical are the round lume and bezel.. the rest are different. and for the PRICE POINT and VALUE for money? i will go for Seiko SRPE... Tudor has ETA! i say it again E T A movement, 38HR power reserve. the movement ETA 2824 cost $280 for replacement. then yet you are paying $2,700. can you justify the remaining $2,480? you pay 2,480 for sappire, solid links? and for the Tudor branding? Where is... the Seiko SRPE has Robust IN-HOUSE MOVEMENT, 40HRS power reserve has Day/Date.. Seiko own hardlex crystal, decent and well built hollowed endlinks for $270. 4R36 calibre replacemnt cost $90. why not compare the Tudor BB to a Grand Seiko? or just a Seiko 62mas? or any seiko that is on the same pricepoint of tudor bb. and see which one is superior for same price point.

[@sasamj2533]

If one were to compare with Grand Seiko , even Rolex will not be justifiable for its price haha.

[@perfectcarspec109]

You have a good point. The Tudor is a little overpriced for what you get. On second thought, I wish Seiko made a no date version of this watch. It would look so much better. The Tudor is not bad looking, but the crown sticks out way to far and the hour hand looks out of place...

[@mrartdeco]

Grand Seiko actually wins in every aspect vs Tudor/Rolex except branding and prestige power

[@Marco-kn8rg]

The feel quality is not even close. Look at the bracelet and clasp

[@alizzey22]

@@Marco-kn8rg thats why it should not been compared... it is just that they look similar in shape ang indices... but for "value for money" that seiko. still those srpe series comes in a hollow links and pressed clasp but it is decent, robust and comfortable to wear. for the price point it is acceptable.. for that tudor youve been robbed bigtime by a baby brother of rolex.

[@matheoboucher2414]

it isnt the 7s26 in the seiko, but the 4r36 wich is a better one !

[@GFWatch]

I said 7s26 are for older Seiko 5! 3:08

[@Jollopukki2]

buy dressKX , and also car 🚗 ))

[@GFWatch]

Definitely can't buy a car with that balance in my country. Cars are crazy expensive here.

[@profesorinwestor1984]

My daily car worth 1/3 my month payment

[@the_9ent]

Useful tip: next time there is background noise beyond your control, pause filming and then pick up again afterwards. It ruins the video otherwise as it’s all you can hear.

[@impatrickt]

what a dumbass comment

[@richardalanduncan]

The background noise did not bother me.

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

What are the measurements on these two? Pretty much all I wanted to see

[@GFWatch]

40mm for the Seiko and 36mm for the Black Bay

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

@@GFWatch i meant the thickness, lug to lug etc.

[@GFWatch]

@@burritobrosvideos8060 I don't have those numbers at the top of my head. Please watch the individual review videos to find out 😊

[@finesse49]

@@burritobrosvideos8060 haven't you ever done a search? You can find out for yourself.

[@ub1961]

@@burritobrosvideos8060 around 44.5 or so

[@szynok]

Give SEIKO a sapphire crystal and better bracelet and it lacks nothing in comparison + "in house" movement and a lot better lume :P

[@lowersaxon]

Seiko movements are inferior. Not only the completely outdated 7S26.

[@szynok]

@@lowersaxon 7s26 of course is inferior to eta 2824, it's much older, no hacking or hand winding, but 4R36 is quite modern, at least more modern than 2824 in tudor. It have hacking and hand winding, also more power reserve. The thing is only regulation. I have SRE61 and it have +-5s daily so not that bad for 1/10 price of Tudor. 6R series form SEIKO eats that ETA for breakfast. By all means, that ETA is good, very reliable, but SEIKO with it's own movements aren't bad either. Todays market is quite broken. It's race between "in house" movements. We take care about swiss movements that are not ETA ( just like new ORIS 400) like it's some big event, but we tend to forget that japanese brands have their own "in house" movements for like always. Even budget brands like Orient. Maybe I'm wrong but comparing that watches by movements is missing the point. Unless Tudor brings their MT5402 to 36. That Tudor was on my buying list, but with recent price hike it's quite unreasonable. With that kind of money I could rather look at Aqua Terra territory.

[@GFWatch]

Yup, that's why I'm very excited and in love with the SPB155 and SRPD97.

[@giusepperocchi2979]

@@szynok Even the 6R is a very bad, erratic movement, with low amplitude and huge positional variance which makes regulation almost pointless. The most basic ETA is much better.

[@drzaius844]

No, the Tudor lume is excellent. The Tudor is superior in every respect, except price. People who rail against luxury watches simply don’t know any better, and don’t have firsthand experience. I love my Seiko 5s, but they are significantly inferior in quality. Fun, yes, but inferior.

[@chinkang3566]

I actually find dresskx looks better.

[@oliviersebastian1516]

Your hands is so movable, it makes me dizzy watching the video, but anyways tnx

[@lOlOlOH2O]

seiko best

[@martinreuter1060]

Sorry, but I see two totally different watches.

[@vik574]

And I see a comment from a guy named Martin, now that we establish the obvious, what's your point? 😂

[@irvingz.5261]

Are you going to explain the basics of mechanical watches on all your videos? Otherwise great video, but you spent too much time explaining, hacking, hand wind, etc.

[@paolom7240]

that's why I don't like the black bay 36 .. too similar .. better the royal 38

[@aussie8114]

Seiko looks better.

[@RJ-ql2dj]

No loom comparison

[@blurayauthority]

Most likely no one is going to notice if you’re wearing a Tudor or a Seiko. But you (the buyer) will. So…get the Tudor and don’t kid yourself thinking the Seiko is in the same league. It’s not.

[@kenjkbs]

they are not even comparable at least in terms of price range. seiko 5 in affordable watch category and the tudor in luxury category. seiko 5 is even lower than seiko

[@vik574]

And yet I prefer the Seiko 5 for number of different reasons 😂 Also, you've seen them right, they are very much in the same category function wise. A price that a company determines based on nothing, means less than nothing. If there are two bicycles for example, made to perform the simular tasks. One cost 200 and the other 5000, and the $200 one actually has number of merits in its favor, they are certainly comparable to say the least.

[@MiataBRG]

It's a waste of time describing hacking and what an automatic movement is. The only people watching this are watch geeks and we know already.

[@ericcccccable]

Nice Japanese copy, but logically less refined and a little larger. But a copy anyway ...

[@lowersaxon]

Hahaha. Seiko 5 vs. Tudor. Slaughter but no comparison. Seiko‘s movements are bad as hell. Minus 45 s/d. And thats it.

[@r3fotzirx]

I've got 3 watches with the 4R36 movement and never registered more than a couple seconds difference

[@noka5730]

@@r3fotzirx after trying the 4R36 on two different seikos I can say they have +-7 seconds accuracy.

[@alizzey22]

bad? then what is good the ETA movement that has 38 hr power reserve? for 2,700 dollars? i will go for the robust 4R36 in-house 40hr power reserve for 270 dollars any damn day.

[@r3fotzirx]

@@noka5730 I have a 4gen monster, a samurai and a 5xks but might just have been lucky with mine

[@SkyNikita322]

@@r3fotzirx I have a seiko 5 sport new diver and it is completely inaccurate , it loses 20 sec per day . I will have to let it regulated , I am disappointed

[@f1hotrod527]

Seiko looks better.