When you have too many automatics and have to deal with the constant somehow boring hour/date setting procedure you end up valuing the practicality of an everyday quartz watch. I love my autos but I have absolutely nothing against quartz watches because they are lighter, cheaper and more practical option, especially for a non-enthusiast person. I am also in need of "cleaning out" my collection a bit, otherwise I would probably be interested in some of your watches, amazing pieces! Nice video!
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I'm happy to hear you enjoyed the video! We're on the same page! I love my mechanical watches and they'll always remain special but yeah the idea of a watch that doesn't need to be wound and remains super accurate is super appealing to me. Quartz technology is pretty cool as well so quartz will always have space in my collection. Glad you liked the watches for sale but looool looks like we're all in need for some early spring cleaning!
@juniorgallo87862 жыл бұрын
@@thewatchidiot Having a respectable youtube channel puts you at an advantage in that regard, TWI!!!! LOL. Thanks for the feedback, man!
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
Lol hopefully it'll help a bit! Fingers crossed
@ryan850r2 жыл бұрын
I'd agree. The solar quartz is one of the main reasons I would pick this one up. I already have a 143 or this would already be in my collection. The video definitely makes me think about swapping.
@pablox37832 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Its a shame brands don’t explore more. Every time i look for a comparable proposition to replace my Bond Seamaster quartz i hit a wall.
@idontgrillonwed2 жыл бұрын
As a person who recently had a kid and purged most of his watches, I fully support this scoring. As someone who works on cars, hikes, lifts weights, does yard work, swims, etc on a regular basis, I think quartz should score higher!
@user-pz5ju7mw3k Жыл бұрын
Yep! Love quartz watches they are so much more practical for every day wear.
@Anirossa Жыл бұрын
Ive come to prefer the solar movement to the 4r and 6r movements over time 🤩
@JimLecinski2 жыл бұрын
Love the SNE's but hate the bulky clasp, it's long and doesnt flex around a smaller wrist. So YES, add my vote for Uncle Seiko to make some compatible aftermarket bracelets that fit SNE--would love a Beads of Rice.
@CDOES Жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish more manufacturers would realize that sub 40mm watches are desirable if done right. And they also need to make more titanium cases. SS is fine, but there are better, lighter materials out there that wont cost much more to produce.
@OzymandiasRex2 жыл бұрын
This is my second seiko. I bought the black with the rubber strap so yes PLEASE uncle seiko make some bracelets for this!
@johnnyjohnny7204 Жыл бұрын
i was a mechanical watch snob for decades, but now i agree with you. i'm sick of watchwinders, and still having to reset mechanicals. and then the cost of servicing even low cost movements. solar quartz is excellent, so that's all i'm purchasing anymore...as well as only divers since that is my interest. but totally agree with you about preferring solar quartz.
@BoricuaTraveler2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. I agree with your take on Seiko’s diminishing value proposition. Having the SNE at $500 is nuts, considering that its solar quartz movement puts it squarely on Citizen Eco Drive territory, and Citizen blows Seiko out of the water when it comes to QC, build quality and bracelets (though not in design).
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm glad you enjoy the video! Yeah its sad to see Seiko's core value slipping away bc i really do feel like I've been priced out of most of their watches now! if only the SNE was sold at the $350 price tag that i bought mine at bc that would be on the higher end but it would be the extra price to pay for seikos design. The SPB 143 would have been so great if it had a sticker price of less than 1k.
@jamessher69562 жыл бұрын
$400 free shipping no tax from Japan. Seems worth it to me, hard to find this size.
@stefpix Жыл бұрын
Citizen hiked its prices significantly in the past year for the eco drive promaster watches.
@gymbobjoe1091 Жыл бұрын
Citizen prices are almost on par now. Plus you hit the nail on the head. The design of most citizen watches is awful.
@jimclip2012 Жыл бұрын
I do like EcoDrives, but citizen doesn’t make divers that are this cool. Movement is important, but not as much as aesthetics.
@KamilBet20 күн бұрын
Man! Thanks for this video, because i was on stage when I 0was thinking about changing my sne569 for spb143. And after this episode I think Im good with my sne569😅
@ikiboisart2 жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking about this, seeing both watches in person I’m still really torn between the two. Both have their own quirks but I liked them both. Anyway still a big thanks for the comparison.
@michaelwertz66892 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love the SNE and everyone complains about the price but obviously you can find it for under 400.00 US.
@maisondav1d2 жыл бұрын
where?
@michaelwertz66892 жыл бұрын
@@maisondav1d eliadams or electronic express both are selling for under 400.00.
@stevenwymor13982 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Uncle Seiko make some endlinks to fit the SNE569, SNE573, et. al. C’mon Larry!
@runeoosthuizen72 жыл бұрын
What strap do you have on the SNE at 10:30? Just bought an SNE and I cant seem to find that strap with the woven dark grey colour. It matches the bezel perfectly!
@tehep1cpeW2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that strap is dope, please provide name and maybe amazon link
@Stanjara2 жыл бұрын
These are called perlon straps. Try Eluit ones, for best quality.
@DeanoTXR532 жыл бұрын
Love the take on hollow end links! Wholeheartedly agree. Solid everything can lead to clunky and overbuilt bracelets that don't wear well. I still find that early 5 digit Rolex with the hollow center links, end links and thin stamped clasps are the best wearing sports watches. Also agree about the lighter feeling (despite solid components) aftermarket bracelets by Uncle Seiko or Forstner wake up many watches like the BB58, Seamster and various Seiko's. Seems to me that OEM manufacturers are in the region of diminishing returns when it comes to making "better built" or "more solid feeling" bracelets. This stuff was already tougher than my arm back in the 90s, it just didn't necessarily feel that way in-hand
@jimclip20124 ай бұрын
Both Uncle Seiko and Island Watch now offer oyster bracelets for the SNE solar divers, but both taper from 20mm to 16mm (I prefer the more subtle taper to 18mm, which is also more standard). 16mm is a little dainty, even for a 38.5mm watch head.
@leomore2 жыл бұрын
I bought the SNE because it is quartz AND solar! Otherwise, like you, don't need another small diver. And yes, I'm currently rocking it with an Uncle Seiko Jubilee (SARB end links slightly modified by me) but it's too flashy, I'd prefer the President. Also it looks awesome on a Chevron single pass (midnight black/blue or grey).
@bbrescia86972 жыл бұрын
Can you please offer a link or name of the Perlon band you have the SNE? Thanks!
@SoCalWatchReviews2 жыл бұрын
I have the SPB143 and been tempted to pick up the SNE…. However they look very similar. I may have a charge of heart at some point. Keep up the great work man.
@frz7132 жыл бұрын
Can you give me the strap info for the sne569 at 10:20?
@Time_and_time_again2 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed as I’m loving your reviews 😊 One question… I’ve been thinking about a bb58 for a while now and it’s mainly due to the size. You’ve really got me thinking that I could save a fair bit of money and go with the seiko sne569! I know they’re not really in the same league but the seiko just looks like the perfect size and the thinness looks perfect. Also think it looks like great quality overall. Do you wear the seiko more than the bb58?
@timyoungnc2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I wish they'd make the SNE in light blue, a robins egg blue - so few watches that color are available. I'm thinking about the green dial SNE
@nate.or.nodate2 жыл бұрын
Loved this vid. Just got yourself a new sub. And hell yea on those Uncle Seiko end links!
@AkashTheboss2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for your Alpinist review, I remember you quoting that to be one of your special watch. Btw, as usual nice video. Keep the good work up.
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
Yessss keep an eye out for a video next week😁! But yeah it's definitely amongst my core keepers it would be one of the last watches I'd ever sell if I need to sell off the collection! Thanks man I appreciate the support!!
@stoic9005 ай бұрын
Uncle finally has the full brcelet with the end link
@danlaclair012 жыл бұрын
I have many Seiko Autos. I love Seiko design but I'm done with their autos. The accuracy is terrible. So when I saw this was quartz I snatched it up in black. By far my favorite Seiko. Well... I'd keep my Sarb035 over this but that's because it's beautiful.
@alexg42842 жыл бұрын
This is the video i needed
@kevinorellana70732 жыл бұрын
Awesome video once again. Very interested to see how the SNE compares to the Vaer D4 solar diver. Would be great if you got your hands on one and make a video about it!
@humbleOne162 жыл бұрын
I've had both and IMO they are not even close - spb143 has better case finishing, better dimensions for me, bracelet is by far better...however, for a daily beater, solar version is ok. My problem with it was that it just looked to small on my 7,5 inch wrist and under stronger light the colors on the dial and bezel were too much for me. But my wife loves it :)
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
thats awesome that youve owned both bc theyre both so cool! And your wife definitely has great taste in watches lol!
@Al_Prazolam2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering why you scored the SPB143 lower in the two categories of "Case and Bezel" & "Bracelet" for issues related to fit and feel, when there's a separate category for "On the Wrist Feel." Besides the fact that it's your channel and you can do whatever you want. LOL! :-D If you take feel out of the equation for the two former categories, can you objectively say the 569 ranks higher? Another great video btw! I genuinely look forward to new content from you and can't wait to see your SOTC.
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
You make a very very good point, I didn't think of it that way! I can totally see what you mean and it does make sense to keep those separate! But also at the same time the experience on wrist is so intrinsically connected to the case/bracelet that I guess it makes sense to include it in their own sections? But I do think that I need to reconsider how much weight I put into the wrist experience when I'm deciding on the point totals for the case and bracelet sections. As far as wrist experience goes as a separate section sometimes it ends up being more than just a sum of the watch parts. But I think a good way would be to weigh strap experiences in this section more heavily? Thanks and yeah not sure when I'll put out a updated SOTC but I'll be doing something similar to that near the end of the year tho!
@dustinr162 жыл бұрын
The SPB143 has a much better bracelet. Solid end links, solid links and a machined folding clasp. You also neglected to mention that the 143 has diashield on the entire case and bracelet while the 569 does not.
@mikevandenberg65582 жыл бұрын
Just purchased the SNE. Uncle Seiko - please make the end links or a complete bracelet so I can ditch the OEM before I even wear it! I will probably throw on a NATO or FKM rubber strap straight away when it arrives in a few days.
@edshamaham57192 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I can see how the points work out that way. The bracelet on the SPB is pretty heavy I wasn't a big fan of it. If Seiko made the SNE with a 4R35 movement it would be pretty awesome to open up the awesome design to more people tho
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
Yeah still cant believe it weighs as much as my much bigger SKX on a strapcode bracelet! It's still an awesome watch tho! Yeah I'm all for Seiko releasing an auto version bc I want more people to experience the comfort of the SNE! It's so much better on the Uncle Seiko bracelet. I wish he made one for the SPB lol!
@Stanjara2 жыл бұрын
Wow I really like this watch, the SNE one, and every review that I watched basically trashed it because of the price. I love it for its size and lume, and here you really emphasized its versatility with the straps and Uncle Seiko option. I have 6.7 inch wrist and I tried the new Monster, Tuna and the dressKX and they are all way too heavy for me. I would just not wear them. Monster on their rubber just flaps around... you can feel the delay on your arm. Don't like bracelets at all, and I would immediately put SNE on a Colareb. Thnx for the great comparison video.
@jamessher69562 жыл бұрын
$360 to $409 with free shipping from HK and Japan. Looks like a good value.
@TanguiLeLead Жыл бұрын
the king turtle is the best value proposition, but i realy like the design of the slim turtle.
@ltownandfriends45313 ай бұрын
i would go as far as saying quartz is better... wins in price, wins in accuracy, wins in footprint
@resjon79812 жыл бұрын
Imagine the SPB143 with a solar quartz. Seiko have missed a trick here. Seiko should release some quartz versions of their desirable auto's.
@ViolinistWilliam2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Not gonna lie… the price of the SPB is just SO hard to justify. It’s a good watch. But the SNE comparison proves it-it’s tough to justify.
@timmcdonald53352 жыл бұрын
I have the PADI version of the quartz model. I love it's comfort at 138 grams and it's accuracy (1 second fast per month so far). Uncle Seiko should make some end links, but I don't mind hollow end links and stamped clasps from Seiko because it keeps the weight down. What do people think of the durability over time of Seiko's solar quartz?
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
ooooo i reallllllly want to buy the PADI version as well bc the dial and the light blue accents are so cool and it gives the watch such a different feel! Yeah I'll ask Uncle Seiko about hopefully making some endlinks bc that would be so cool and yeah I agree hollow endlinks are great (so long as they're secure!). Hmmmm i havent looked into reliability for the Seiko solar quartz but i havent heard any horro stories regarding it. I have a solar chronograph and its doing great!
@Clax77 Жыл бұрын
great vid thanx and I just subscribed. do you have a link to that braclet?
@alexg42842 жыл бұрын
Would love uncle seiko end links!
@ryan850r2 жыл бұрын
If you had a do over and didn't have either watch yet but had done this review, which so you think you would go with? Also, for my 143, I picked up an sbdc051 bracelet and the endlink fitment is much better and it's also a bit lighter so the wearing experience is better.
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
oooooooooo wow thats a tough one! i feel like i still would edge towards the SNE just because of the size and price but it would be a near impossible choice bc they both offer such unique experiences.I would definitely want to get both at that point lol! Oh wow i didnt realize the SBDC051 bracelet works with the 143! Considering it fits better and is lighter then that would really put the 143 back into the running bc it would solve its main issue for me. How did you come across this compatibility?
@ryan850r2 жыл бұрын
@@thewatchidiot a couple of guys on the sub forum on WUS posted that it worked so decided to give it a shot. Would like to get the mm300 clasp also for quick adjust.
@MrLuckyace89 Жыл бұрын
Uncle seiko definitely needs to do some end links for the SNE! The bracelet is a clear upgrade.
@axelrod-_- Жыл бұрын
baltic tropical strap is good
@stoic9005 ай бұрын
They have them now
@WesWatchRoom2 жыл бұрын
Great work with the comparison. If money was no object it would be the spb all day. Just a super clean and classy piece
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed it!! Yeah the dial and case finishing of the SPB is pretty spectacular I'd go so far as to say it's one of the best dial/handset combos of any diver!
@TheCamocamper17 күн бұрын
Seiko Automatics can be a hit and miss for accuracy. Once I went solar quartz I never looked back. I destroy my everyday watch, takes me a few years, and the repairs equal half a new. Newest model is SNE589.
@petergolden40842 жыл бұрын
Endlinks for Seiko solar! Yes!
@DarthJabba504 Жыл бұрын
Please review the 42mm Seiko SNE593 (or similar) series!
@jeffreyc59632 жыл бұрын
Yes a new bracelet!
@boston9612 жыл бұрын
Be great if uncle Seiko do some bracelets and curved rubber straps for the sne solar .
@aimanhisyam2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, for the sne569p1, which strap bracelet you would recommend that fits on and is an upgrade for the sne569p1?
@DanCath2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, please consider reducing the volume of the "blip" sound effect it feels jarring
@matin24612 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me the purchase information of the President bracelet worn on the sne569 model?
@boul21792 жыл бұрын
Hi my friend, I have a very specific question and would really appreciate it if you could answer it. I’m interested in buying the uncle seiko 1450 bracelet for my black bay 58 blue but I’m intending on using the original clasp from the black bay. Do you know if it is possible to use the black bay clasp with the uncle seiko bracelet? Thank you so much for your content and help.
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
Hi there and I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying the channel! As for the compatibilty unfortunately they arent compatible. That being said the clasp that the 1450 bracelet comes with matches the aesthetic and lighter weight feel of the bracelet. The Tudor clasp would most likely be a bit too heavy for it! Either way its an awesome bracelet that works so well with the BB58 and weirdly well with the SNE569 lol!
@Anirossa Жыл бұрын
Try the sne on a soft elastic strap, will be hard to wear any other watch afterwards ;)
@johnwinters15182 жыл бұрын
What's a cheaper alternative to the SPB143 that has similar indices and hands?
@Jimmiou2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the reference of that oris bracelet for the speedmaster ? Thanks
@anthonygregkamatoy8549Ай бұрын
just thinking of purchasing my first seiko, what’s the difference between spb143 62mas and 63mas
@thewatchidiotАй бұрын
Seiko's are awesome so I'm glad to hear that you're thinking of getting one! And great timing bc actually my latest video was reviewing the new SPB453 63MAS and I went through what it's like compared to the SPB143 62MAS and how it's different so check it out and hopefully it helps! Here's the link to it: Seiko Answered My Prayers With The New Seiko SPB453 (62MAS): But Is It Better Than The SPB143? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWi4m6Rtic1mr68
@cjsolarmusic2 жыл бұрын
I vote on end links for that bracelet/watch combo lol
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
yessss i want it to happen so bad!
@MrBacchus182 жыл бұрын
Wonder how the uncle Seiko jubilee would look
@Rockycm111 ай бұрын
If Seiko's steep price is an issue, then Seiko mod is the way.
@djun95619 ай бұрын
What size you'r wrist?
@raymoraga Жыл бұрын
What a type of nylon strap on SNE?
@michaelsorrentino33468 ай бұрын
I’m a Seikohaolic. I really thought the 143 was going to be my favorite but it was the most inaccurate watch I’ve ever owned. Very disappointing and I felt like I couldn’t even sell it. I gave it to my brother (who doesn’t mind being late-lol). The quality control is bad for a watch I payed $1200. Lots have mis-aligned chapter rings which are very unacceptable (I felt so fortunate not to have this issue/it looks awful). As for Seiko solars I have two (SNE 497 and SNE 499) that are my most accurate watches. Off only 1 sec a month- Amazing!
@michaelsorrentino33468 ай бұрын
Awesome review of both watches. Very nice close up shots and great perspective and depth.
@daveLin1046 ай бұрын
Hi how is the chapter ring misaligned? The 143 has no markers on the chapter ring.
@ljsanchez122 жыл бұрын
I have the SNE, bit just like all Seikos, the bracelet is horrible. If you got an in with Uncle Seiko, as him for all of us!
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
lol yeah so sad that Seiko cant step up their bracelet game despite being so big! Yeah I'll definitely ask him to see if he would consider making one at some point bc its such an awesome combo!
@ilyfrankh2 жыл бұрын
I have both an SNE569 and SPB149. Paid $300 and $1100 for them, respectively. To me, it's no contest. The SPB149 is better in almost every way - fit & finishing, dial & bezel quality, and bracelet quality (absolutely horrible bracelet/clasp on that SNE569) ... of course it's 3x the price though. Ultimately I'm keeping both. The 569 being solar quartz means it has its own place and uses.
@daveLin104 Жыл бұрын
Hi do you still have both ? Does the weight and thickness of the spb143 bother you or do you get used to it ?
@ilyfrankh Жыл бұрын
@@daveLin104 I have a relatively small wrist, 6.3", and the weight/thickness does not bother me.
@daveLin104 Жыл бұрын
@ilyfrankh thanks for the reply 🙏 personally looks wise the 143 wipes the floor with the SNE in my opinion. And from you say the quality looks far better 👌 just wish slightly thinner but prob get used to it :)
@WDNCh2 жыл бұрын
Just letting you know the endlinks of the Tudor bracelet don't fit anymore. I guess Uncle Seiko changed them, idk. Rip 100$
@salvadorochoa2098 Жыл бұрын
Just got my sne brown for 199 brand new
@maclo972 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison but i gotta disagree on most of your points
@Guybrush-Threepwoood2 жыл бұрын
Spb143 😍
@MrFredrictai2 жыл бұрын
The value of the SPB143 is 7 and SNE569 is 7.5.... OK... it is your video.
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
having a bracelet with endlinks that dont fit is just a bit too much for me on a watch thats over 1k lol
@MrFredrictai2 жыл бұрын
@@thewatchidiot Yes, I agreed the SPB143 is overpriced especially with that bracelet. But it is a good-looking watch. Then again, the 6R35 is not that great... may be you are right after all.
@littlsuprstr Жыл бұрын
So the SPB tied with the BB58, and the SNE beat the SPB. So the SNE beats the Tudor that costs 10x more. 🤑
@ahojnazdar36562 жыл бұрын
Ok, so worse watch won against objectively better one because of subjectivity. You could say at the very beginning that you like the SNE better than SPB and save us time. gg
@Anirossa Жыл бұрын
Objectively better in what ways? Not center of mass Comfort Strapmonsterbility Accuracy Practicality Bezzel grip Bracelet fitment Value proposition ... So what way?
@chi10572 жыл бұрын
I like the SPB but the price is way too high for what it is in my opinion. In the UK they're £1100 ! Not sure how Seiko can justify that price for this watch.
@chi10572 жыл бұрын
@@polygoncoco I have a gen 3 Sumo - retail £740 , cheaper with discounts. I can't see why the SPB costs so much more. I guess they're worth what people will pay, for you it's the right price, just not for me.
@chi10572 жыл бұрын
@@polygoncoco I'll keep an eye open !
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
Its an awesome watch for sure but I think you really ought to check it out in person if you havent already! its stunning but I do agree, the sticker price is on the high end of what I would want to pay for it. But by the looks of it there are options!
@aaronli36402 жыл бұрын
This guy looks like Ben Clymer
@thewatchidiot2 жыл бұрын
I'll take that lol! If only I had his watch and car collection too 😂
@macacopaco46642 жыл бұрын
"other than being blue, it's grey" 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 thumbs down
@lawrencefleischer1414 Жыл бұрын
Gray bezel? Looks like someone washed it with bleach and let it dry in the sun. Ugly as sin. Pressed clasp? Come on. Terrible. Hollow end links? At $500? Really? Three things going in that makes it look cheap. And that's before the misalignments and second hand not hitting the markers. (I hope yours didn't't have those issues).
@diodorosiii12882 жыл бұрын
Hello, which online store is more convenient and cheapest and reliable to buy these seiko models: SPB245J1 OR SPB243J1 SNE497P1 Thanks.