Self-driving Tesla app sparks safety concerns after Maryland crash

[@gregorypeterson9]

Time to summon a law suit.

[@hanzreynado]

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[@lt3074]

Right answer

[@mik3s41185]

😂😂😂

[@Archangel_Reez]

😅😅

[@viewer_5714]

Gregory, you don't know how Smart Summons work. The owner was in control.

[@justice_for_peanut]

Walking to my car seems easier than having a heart attack using this feature.

[@chuckxu5910]

Waymo in San Francisco is way smarter than tesla, because they can drive on public roads without having a driver 🚕

[@corytrevor7313]

Not true man, as a tesla owner whos used thousands of hours using full self driving. Ive never worried or had to take over when in the car. The tech is already there in tesla. The only reason it hasnt been turned "driverless" is because its not perfect and way more ppl have teslas then there are waymos. The tech is already in the car now though. Once its fully ready to go in a yr or so an update will go out and waymo will be dead. @chuckxu5910

[@theodorehaskins3756]

@@chuckxu5910 Really! But can you buy one?

[@theodorehaskins3756]

@@chuckxu5910😁😁😁

I’ve used it many times even in busy parking lots and it works flawlessly.

[@ericsasmr]

Tesla’s latest version of this is called “Actually Smart Summon” not “Smart Summon” this is likely an old version. It should be also noted they did not use a newer car to test it…

[@itsDatguy650]

To be fair their are more older style model 3's on the road than newer 2023+

[@ericsasmr]

@ yes and that is correct but the only way to get the newer version is to have FSD enabled, if not Tesla calls the other version “Dumb Summon”

[@stanleyfung5529]

Based on the visualization on the screen, the IIHS demonstration was using Smart Summon and not Actually Smart Summon. They need to enable it inside the car

[@jay1o1o]

whats next version Actually Real Smart Summon? they shouldn't beta test on public

[@TheMadmax0609]

​@@jay1o1oeverything is beta tested in public. The auto industry makes corrections from there.

[@culjonez22]

I’ve used it a couple of times and you can see the camera feeds on your screen so you know if there is a problem, and it has always worked perfectly for me.

[@bjair]

The owner is responsible for the car. Why did they keep holding down the button if they were watching the car closely?

[@이소니]

Also, they should be watching the camera view. Unless this was before the update.

[@theodorehaskins3756]

So I’ve tried this feature a few times since its release, and I’ve never had any incidents at all. It operated just as intended, and so far it’s been flawless. I am very impressed, but they need to extend the perimeter behind 200 feet, as that’s just to short of a distance in my opinion, also they need to improve the connectivity because a lot of times in some areas the car will not allow the app to connect to the car, and so with that happens, smart summon comes up as unavailable. Cheers 🥂

[@lawrencemcclammy4686]

@@이소니 this was before the update. They actually repost this same story every few months and pretend it's new.

[@viralvideochannel3540]

Insurance company: Sorry cant help you

[@spoiltsport]

One thing missing in the expose is the version of the app and software. Looked like they were not running actual smart summon

[@Endurator]

Exactly, I have it myself and tried it, it works no issues, it never tried to hit another car or drive itself to the curves

[@lawrencemcclammy4686]

This is an old story on an old version of dumb summon.

[@Trilogysworld]

Are we raising safety concerns after every car crash by other car companies? So we going to put every car accident on the news ? Smh 🤦‍♂️

[@im4udevco]

I had a trial on this and NEVER used it. If I'm not in the vehicle, it doesn't move. Period. Go to an open parking lot and see what its limitations are. I'm sure the driver learned an expensive lesson.

[@maycrew9126]

This is madness. Human beings have never scraped into a parked car. FSD must be banned forever!😂

[@corytrevor7313]

Anything to bash elon and tesla

[@homosapien6031]

Haha fr

[@kingkeenangaming756]

Disagree

[@obinnayoung]

You can only use it on your own property, if you use it outside and it kills someone or damages property, you can't sue Tesla about it.

[@KYLOWW]

And I thought Waymo was bad

[@BodAesthetics]

Elon really messed up when he said cameras were the way to go and not LIDAR. Summon has been available years on Teslas that have LiDar. Tesla finally released summon to cars in 2024 with only cameras and has these issues and trouble with FSD at night. But Elon is too stubborn and egotistical to admit he was wrong and switch back. Other benefit of LiDar is you don’t need light to detect distance or surroundings, whereas cameras you do. Someone needs to file a class action lawsuit against Tesla and demand LiDAR be used again.

[@cool2180]

Elon got money so he can take these losses without a problem

[@LunaBobbi]

I would never trust a car that drove itself. That lady needs file a lawsuit

[@cesarsalgadosalgado2199]

Time for a lawsuit against Elon musk since he thinks he can get away with anything

[@macjem6093]

Rly, people are that lazy???

[@clinicalpsychologist]

A biased report for biased sheeps

[@RONderluck]

Wrong

[@KG-LifeandHealth]

@@RONderluck do you have a telsa ron?

[@RONderluck]

@@KG-LifeandHealth My name is isn’t Ron. I own 3 teslas. CyberTruck, Model Y and Model 3.

[@3dus]

OMG! That’s like a HUGE failure. Only Musk pundits would accept this.

[@Knowledge-411-x4q]

BETA?.......BUT IT'S A CAR....SUPER IRRESPONSIBLE

[@3rdcoastcopwatch]

Who's to blame? The company. No insuranxe. Out of pocket.

[@drwisdom1]

It is sickness to think parking is too much work.

[@lt3074]

This shouldn't even be available for owners yet, crazy!

[@dwnrange7812]

‘Beta’ was usually limited to video games where the worst that could happen is the gaming machine crashed. In this case, it’s a REAL crash

[@justadude336]

It’s so Tesla can farm data at the expense of their customers safety. Anything for a buck.

[@viewer_5714]

You don't know how it works. The owner was in control, so the mistake was made by the owner. It's not as bad as this news is making out to be.

[@R.POliver]

I don’t care how good technology gets, I’m not getting into a car unless I have some overriding control. Nope not happening.

[@Grasshopper.80]

Death machines.

[@corytrevor7313]

If this happened over the summer than it was before the actual smart summon update came out. I've used the feature during this time and would not trust it in a public parking lot setting. Only big open safe places with no cars. Since then though it got the update actual smart summon which was a major upgrade. I've used it literally thousands of times. Parking lots ect, ect...I've never once had a problem or even a close call. When using it on the app you can see the camera view from the car to stop it if you need to. Even though it's been flawless it's still the drivers responsibility to watch it.

[@Volvo8Fifty4Life]

Summon in the IIHS needs to investigate this before summon gets hurt.

[@jasonlop10]

Oh this is a problem? Not the thousands upon thousands of fatal crashes from human drivers each year?

[@daniebello]

it’s using their customers as beta testers for improving their tech with the customers taking the full brunt of liability

[@Matthew-zw9su]

Do not allow beta testing amidst the general public!!!

[@clinicalpsychologist]

He didn't use the Actually Smart Summon

[@therealsheikh]

BETA features are not meant for production launch until tested out and approved to be good.

[@integrii]

How long ago was this? I've done this a lot of times and never seen it do something like this.

[@RONderluck]

Last week

[@georgepelton5645]

The way the car acts it looks like the old “smart summon” feature, which did not work very well. Tesla has replaced it with “actually smart summon” which is much better, but still needs close supervision by the operator to stop it if needed.

[@lawrencemcclammy4686]

@@RONderluck wrong. A few months ago. They keep reposting the same story every few months and pretending it's new. Also you can tell by looking at the software in the car how outdated it is.

[@RONderluck]

@@lawrencemcclammy4686 you’re so full of it. You can clearly see the software is 13.2.2.. are you blind?

[@lawrencemcclammy4686]

@@RONderluck ignoring the link I sent on your other comment I see. 🤡

[@mastergoma126]

Plot twist, that lady hit that Tesla 😆

[@RantRantJoe]

The one behind the wheel is the one holding the button on the phone 😂...

[@anthonyjohnson9974]

(screaming) lol

[@KingTechHD]

That’s hilarious. Obviously the owner of the vehicle is to blame. Ban the feature or the vehicles if you want change

[@218klove]

Never trust a computer to drive for you

[@randytaylor4766]

I do every day. I just made a 500 round trip and my Tesla drove me the entire trip. It drives safer than most real drivers.

[@smorris281]

Let’s just keep our hands on the wheel, please.

[@justanotherchannel6097]

Insurance will deny it’s parking lot

[@clinicalpsychologist]

Thats not the Actually Smart Summon feature

[@RONderluck]

Duh

[@vr6204]

I guess it’s best to use it in the middle of no where

[@CTheMuse]

😂 Now that they have a problem with Elon you'll see more and more stories like this suddenly appear.

[@ljacobs357]

Stay away from overpriced, overhyped, unreliable and dangerous Tesla's.

[@vj.joseph]

I like FSD as it is now, I have always liked it, even before too. Enough time has passed for Tesla to learn by now. Tesla has been progressing very good compared to others,who are also developing the same tech. These situations should be looked into, more closely by engineers. I dont have that car,but I like the very good progressive nature of it.

[@lc9935]

Beta on a car should never be in the same sentence

[@Romans_Thought_Jesus_Was_Woke]

All of these parking lot training exercises should have already been conducted in Tesla's private parking lots, before releasing to the public. Don't understand why that was so difficult.

[@Ty-Jerz]

Just walk to your vehicle dang 😂

[@teinspringz]

Beater tester, as in panel beater tester! Works for panel beaters fixing all the dents and damage $$$$$$$

[@PaulWildstar]

The "Actually Stupid Summon" is Death on Wheels

[@mustolourien5823]

The president has immunity, don't know if it applies to his companies.

[@BillLowny]

Those are screenshots of the old version. That's not "actually smart summon" where you are watching the car's cameras on your phone just like the car can see.

[@gtromble]

Tesla is to blame. Period.

[@vipsavior]

It's the user that will be at fault. You're not forced to use summon. Just like autopark, people have it ,but rarely use it. It's a matter of choice.

[@younged510]

Summon is different from FSD.. I dont use Summon because I don't trust is. FSD I trust, and if I don't feel comfortable I cancel FSD and drive my tesla myself..

[@Augusto0926]

People hit cars while driving manually every day. The person controlling the car remotely is just as responsible as if it were them physically driving in the car.

[@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry]

Still statistically safer than humans

[@OperationChicago]

Expect more of this as we are not ready for this.

[@ObeyTheAlgorithm]

I guess I have the most obvious question… what software version of FSD do these cars have installed when using smart summons? Also is this a hardware 3 or 4 car?!! $TSLA 📈🚀💰

[@aleeah3532]

Far more trouble than it’s worth. Putting the public at risk for only the benefit of an overly paid billionaire is ridiculous

[@AngryPeopleReplyToMe]

I don't see how releasing a feature to regular citizens is benefiting Elon. If anything this hit job video is hurting him.

[@aleeah3532]

@ guess you still have much to learn.

[@AngryPeopleReplyToMe]

@@aleeah3532 deflecting is probably the best move for you at this point.

[@aleeah3532]

@ bro stop wasting time….

[@AngryPeopleReplyToMe]

@aleeah3532 Exactly. Just like that. Offer no argument, only mystery!

[@chagew8966]

Thousands of crashes a year. One Tesla crash: WhAt HaVe we DONE?!

[@KG-LifeandHealth]

to early lol they have been working on it since 20016 and everyone knows your resposible for your own vehicle you even have to click accept to the terms and conditions. I use summors many times a day and never seen anything remotly like what you guys showed the car doing.

[@didiermejia780]

The muskrat should be stopped!!!

[@NathanielKrefman]

It’s literally called “Actually Smart Summon.” Not making it up. There is another feature called Dumb Summon. It moves the car more like a remote control, just forward and backward manually. They should verify that the owner wasn’t using Dumb Summon when this happened. Smart Summon does weird things, but it also should have good collision avoidance.

[@ShaddowDemon]

"Actually Smart Summon" is so named because "Smart Summon" was like this (I.e. not smart, despite the name). I never used it because of how bad it was. They aren't the same thing at all. The new version was released a few months ago.

[@FrankGallagherr]

Tesla is the best car company ever

[@Princesspeacelovetruth]

Sue them! Someone could’ve gotten really hurt

[@williamroyer4669]

Sue Elon Musk 💰

[@vipsavior]

Hilarious 😂

[@Princesspeacelovetruth]

@@williamroyer4669 Or whoever allowed the app to be released

[@kingkeenangaming756]

No

[@humannature3916]

3 words. MINIMUM VIABLE PRODUCT. Such low standards. They are playing with people's safety

[@RONderluck]

Oh stop it

[@thatdude902]

If you ever see a Cybercab, run...

[@mecuniverse3042]

don't use too much technology, their will be always glitch ! more tech , more glitch

[@Rogfur]

Tesla's stock made the Musk multibillionaires but the car isn't ready for the market.

[@chris12321222]

The operator of the motor vehicle is responsible duh. Just like you have to be 18 to operate a vehicle, doesn’t matter if it can self drive itself

[@charlespatrick8650]

same thing Elon will do to the Federal Government

[@corytrevor7313]

This happend on old software, it says right there on the Manuel this shouldn't be used in parking lots with traffic. I've got one and after the update now I've used it thousands of times with no problem. Teslas are an engineering feat and the tech is amazing. Go cry about it lib.

[@195.00fromvenmo]

@@corytrevor7313 Exactly, they are bringing politics into this matter just because of his role in fixing this trashy government.

[@LanceGHall]

The doesn’t show all the facts. The app lets you view the Tesla 4 primary cameras live (which this report doesn’t disclose). The owner must not have been paying attention or should’ve seen the car.

[@b21raider27]

Tesla has only cameras (doesn’t have a self clean feature either). Smoke and mirrors. Need LiDAR like Waymo.

[@lawrencemcclammy4686]

This was so old. Why are y'all acting like it's new. So many updates since this incident. Also, didn't insurance cover it?

[@RONderluck]

You need to stop lying. This happened last week.

[@ShaddowDemon]

​@@RONderluck"Smart Summon" is a feature that I don't believe is available anymore on the vast majority of Teslas. It was upgraded to "Actually Smart Summon" a few months ago and just uses the FSD stack to drive, which doesn't do dumb stuff like this. This is a story they held onto for a while to get the interviews and stuff. Smart Summon was notorious for clipping cars as it pulls out of a spot... That's why I never used it.

[@eryqeryq]

Sure, Elon

[@6filthy66]

Bwahhhh!!!! After Musk gets that position he will make all those law suits go away! , so he's not loosing any sleep! Over this!

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

So were they testing this using fsd 13.x? The person to blame is the person using the app. Its their responsibility.

[@ShaddowDemon]

Nah. The old smart summon was bad. If it decided to turn sharp out of a parking spot there's absolutely no way you'd be able to react in time to stop it.

[@JT_771]

Early-day functions like this ... not for me in busy parking lots. But that's me.

[@jonas9456015]

People get into a higher percentage of crashes

[@dwnrange7812]

I’m sure Elon is having DOGE sweep this under the rug

[@kunkmiceter]

Tesla sales are way down in the US. Wonder why? 😅

[@tommy13965]

Because you can’t afford one 😂😂😂😂😂

[@sharpie132]

Neither can I 😂😂😂😂 if not I'd have one😂

[@williamroyer4669]

Service work is extremely expensive.

[@word123456789100]

​@@tommy13965teslas are cheap af😂

[@word123456789100]

​@williamroyer4669 parts are cheap aftermarket. Its a big Lego set. Nothing is fixed just replaced. As long as you have decent tools and time, you can fix about 85% of what breaks in your garage. Buy yes, the service center is expensive and a joke. I would avoid at all costs.

[@cheese-power]

Next version: smarter summon

[@dixiemerchant1052]

I'm sorry, flying cars, self driving cars and any other such foolishness are just a No-Go!! Common sense!

[@tomchipego7562]

Not really self driving is the future. At one point people thought credit cards would never take off and replace cash but here we are today. I took my Tesla 2024 model Y from Harrisburg to Times Square and back and never touched the wheel one time. It was the most relaxing drive of my life and it was safe. Plus it was pouring rain.

[@skatebeats3498]

looks like she has a Tesla too.

[@chinablack]

Super rare situation. Still more safe than the amount of accidents caused by humans.

[@williamroyer4669]

if the human are named Trump.

[@mbeliv3763]

hahaha. LIAR

[@williamroyer4669]

Keep filling lawsuits until this idea of self driving vehicles is put to rest .

[@AngryPeopleReplyToMe]

I'm sure they said the same thing about airplanes too. Time for bed grandpa.

[@corytrevor7313]

Omg a car hit another parked car in a parking lot this has never happened before in human history!!!

[@MurphyYves]

This is definitely subpar reporting... If you spoke to the tesla owner, at least you can tell us what year the Model Y is, what version of smart summon they had (the latest is Actually Smart Summon). The tests they are running have the car behaving like its still using the old smart summon, which used lidar (or some hardware like that). I have a 2023 Model Y and while the smart summon still needs some work, it behaves nowhere close to what this testing is showing. It looks like the reporting is intentionally being vague to give Teslas a bad name

[@Theanhdy]

NBC takes every opportunity to put a hit piece on Elon

[@greghelton4668]

The robo taxi doesn’t even work in a parking lot?

[@corytrevor7313]

I have a tesla and It does...this was before the update and it was 100% on the driver.

[@greghelton4668]

@ how’s it on the driver when he’s not in the car?

[@homosapien6031]

@@greghelton4668he’s still controlling it. Liability’s on him

[@corytrevor7313]

@@greghelton4668 because at the time this happened with the older software it specifically says on the Manuel not to use in busy parking lots. At the time it was simply a fun party trick... It also says keep an eye on the vehicle at ALL TIMES. I garentee this happened because the driver was out of line of sight with the car and not watching it. Since this happened this feature has been updated to actually smart summon that now allows you to use in public settings...the update improved it tremendously and now even has cameras on the app so you can watch the car even with it being out of the line of sight....once again though it's still the drivers responsibility to watch it...if you see something you don't like on the cameras you can take your finger off the button and the car will stop instantly.

[@cesar.hcr.55]

This is what happens when someone does not read the instructions. His phone shows camera view and all he had to do is let go of the button.

[@elih9588]

Shocker from silicon valley vehicles. Computers crash you know.

[@caroleclem1580]

Elon Musk is to blame. Elon needs to keep his children in control vroom vroom😂

[@faraimupfuti3530]

The technology will get better as time goes by

[@kelvinsiuYT]

That is actually weird. I've been using summon for months and i love it

[@RONderluck]

I don’t use summons at all as I keep it off because it kills battery

[@ShaddowDemon]

Summon or "Actually Smart Summon"?

[@ShaddowDemon]

​@@RONderluckit only kills the battery if you have the toggle on to keep your car ready. If you turn the toggle off, it just takes like 10 seconds to connect and be ready.

[@RONderluck]

@ you need to stop

[@planewire2153]

Help, my 90 thousand dollar car decided to start playing demolition derby with all the other cars and children running around the parking lot

[@MoCowbell]

this summer?! lol

[@matclairoux]

consumer in beta state, don't know if they won't get sued for complaining.

[@me_1340]

It’s really good and safe feature. It was a used issue. Time to add it to test drive to make sure users are familiar with it

[@shelleysteed1767]

🤯

[@Mr.Steepz]

They gotta test it somehow right? It will be fixed.

[@blackshadow2670]

Works when I use it

[@Cfc5556]

Everyone take a look!

[@mikespence8895]

Another hit piece on tesla. Blah blah blah.

[@CPG00]

Smart* Summon (*Sort Of).