Selling BMW'S Most Hated Clown Car for a Electric Hyundai

[@criticalevent]

Telsa's minimalism is completely driven by cost savings. If the car is 6 figures I want buttons that feel like Rolex made them.

[@MrAleB305]

Unfortunately with everyone having a b0n3r for technology this is going away. I used to consider Mercedes the king of "Rolex buttons" in the mid 2010s and now they just put oversized ipads instead.

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

and it's STILL a cheaply made car

[@Soh90]

Tesla minimalism and cheapness is why they are doing the least worst out of all the EV startups. Though all of them are struggling, Tesla is probably the most poised to make it out alive.

[@Soh90]

@@criticalevent Yup pretty much. I got an EV. It was pretty cool the first two years. Now it’s just a car to me 🤷🏾‍♂️ Only think owning a Tesla has made me do is appreciate my other cars more. EV’s have a place, but they are not the savor that everyone pretended they would be. As for me, you’re gonna have to pry the diesel fuel nozzle out of my cold dead hands.

[@MurderMostFowl]

@@criticalevent the plan originally as I understand it was the Tesla was going to make the roadster and then license the battery technology to other companies… No companies bought it so they came out with a sedan and then people started to really like it and they were making a bunch of money and you had the plan still to license, the battery technology and infrastructure to other companies. And then at some point hubris took over and the kept going. They are going to eventually go bankrupt because they don’t have the decades of car design experience and ability to deal with changing markets like the other car companies… their vehicles are already starting to look kind of dated

[@willb3636]

Just because a vehicle is electric doesn’t mean it needs to have every single button on a screen. Physical buttons are so much better in every single way in my opinion.

[@nisiunavoce1264]

ABSOLUTELY! (Up to a point) I can't stand the Tesla UI, it's horrible.

[@DarriusTaylor]

Everyway...except they are immutable so not everyyyy single way.

[@DarriusTaylor]

​@@nisiunavoce1264to say that it's horrible after seeing car UIs for over a decade be doodoo water is a crazy claim.

[@nisiunavoce1264]

@@DarriusTaylor what?

[@bublybublybubly]

@@DarriusTaylor lol, facts, but it's still deedee mega doodoo. Teslas are super dangerous and its mostly because of that nightmare of an iPad. There's a reason they rocketed to, and stay on, the top list of most accidents on the road.

[@DHD-]

I heard rumors of a track edition called the Hard-R.

[@descendency]

He was asking about all of the Ns in the car... (jk Uncle Rich. I love you)

[@Tyrae-g8z]

It should be illegal for this car to park next to that highest trim Civic. On the bright side, it was already set to the hip hop station

[@bradhaines3142]

that would be the honda

[@BoopBobBeep]

Rrrrrrrracing

[@xan2242]

I hope the rumours about the N-Bomb mode are true

[@pjroque2654]

There’s lots of videos of people driving this car in the Nürburgring Really hard nonstop without overheating or any problems at all this thing is sick. Hyundai really killed it with this one.

[@antond9721]

Not surprised. Hyundai has a guy on a team who was in charge of creating bmw M for decades. From e30 to e9x. I recently saw Elantra N during the track days, chasing Porsches. N division has a bright future

[@newjdm]

I heard he retired though

[@Globbs]

I don't like their enormous cars and FWD sedans. If they create a small RWD/AWD car like the BRZ, I think that would amazing. Im tired of huge overweight cars, no matter how well they perform.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@newjdmStill technical advisor to Hyundai N. He’s just not working everyday as he used to.

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

So they just copied bmw with the M and made the N. Lmfao. Everyone wanna be like BMW. Even audi is copying them with their 2025 models.

[@jpizel1070]

​@@PEACEOUTXX1Not really. N means Nurburgring which is where they test their performance vehicles. Also, every brand has a performance division. Not sure how is that copying.

[@zeroblade9800]

Albert Biermann, the man who helped developed every BMW M car til the F80 worked for Kia/Hyundai for a bit after he left BMW. He had a hand in this thing's development. Retired in 2021 but was still an advisor. Some other channels are weirded out car is fully electric, "no gearbox" yet it redlines, shift shocks and makes noise enough to make them forget its a EV. Now that the vision concept car is going into production... oh boy

[@sunkings5972]

Right, I expect every auto maker has a with the realistic shift features like this within 5 years. So crazy to think we could look back and see Hyundai as having an evolutionary car.

[@Cars_and_adventures]

He also created the Kia Stinger Hyundai i30n and i20n all incredible cars !

[@HerrHerbertHase]

Also let's not forget that the head of design is Peter Schreyer who did the MK IV golf and the original Audi TT...

[@geemy9675]

@@sunkings5972 nah it's transitional and it's a gimmick to make the car slower and less comfortable. I mean I don't mind that they add the option but don't expect owners to use it much or competitors to do the same

[@RothBeyondTheGrave]

​@@geemy9675 you're not wrong & I'll take it a step further. Lithium ion battery powered EV's are a gimmick & people are drooling idiots, so the gimmick always wins.

[@newjdm]

Be careful downshifting or you’ll blow the engine.

[@YTYTYTY7]

I guess don’t get used to it too much. You might actually do that when you get into an Ice vehicle.

[@onederment]

Is there a synthetic noise for that ?

[@cloudyview]

Then the card reader pops up for your 'engine replacement' - since it's like a video game

[@Southghost5997]

DANGER TO MANIFOLD

[@thedroolfool]

@@Southghost5997 I would pay extra for a fast and furious mode that makes everything as ridiculous as possible.

[@dijital4588]

Ive put almost 3k miles on mine. Highly customizable to match the exact mood you’re in. Boost button. Stoplight menace. Drift mode. Track day weapon. Practical everyday family wagon. But the best part is it’s a constant grin machine. Price is steep but that’s rs6 avant performance (with more space) for the price of a dark horse. Range is an issue but the anxiety should improve once Hyundai gets Tesla Supercharger access. Congrats and welcome the club!

[@damiendrew8099]

Its a hot hatch not a wagon

[@JHatch65]

I bought mine (in white) two weeks ago and I freaking love this thing. I have had muscle cars (69 Mustang and a 73 455 - 4 speed Trans Am) and this car SMOKES them. Not only that but it handles like a slot car and has all the modern amenities - and the seats are so comfortable. Plus I can put it in ECO mode and let my wife drive it. But put it in Sport mode and have the N-Sounds and N-shift mode on and it's a different beast. All the Chargers, Camaros, and Mustangs in my city are finding out what a fast vehicle looks like.

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

😂

[@UserNameTakenDown]

Hyundai is garbage, you’ll loose so much money on this toaster… 😂

[@jaydog77]

Quick vehicle the mustangs and cameras are faster the EV is quicker...

[@stuffhappens5681]

I’m old enough to remember all the shade people threw on Japanese cars in the 80s is virtually identical to what’s being said about Kia and Hyundai today. They’re following exactly the same exact trajectory. First they’re throwaways then as they evolve they get better and better until eventually nobody remembers why they didn’t like them. They will become serious rivals to established brands.

[@glenmel78]

I worked for Hyundai/ Kia in the early 2000's when there cars were just a little better than disposable. They followed a slightly different business model than the Japanese manufacturers. If you motor or trans grenaded under warranty you got a manufacturer rebuild slapped in. We'd drop the damaged motor/trans in the plastic crate the rebuild came in and sent it back to them to rebuild and put in parts inventory. They didn't want mechanics spending time rebuilding, they replaced parts most of the time. That's what made the 10yr. drivetrain warranty work and that was a HUGE selling point back then. Still is. If we had the engine/trans in stock you could have your car back and running in a day if we got to it first thing in the morning. Imo it was a better/improved system. I stuck around until 2007 when mgnt changed and bounced. There cars are so much better now that I actually bought my wife a 2017 Sonata with confidence and have had a great time with it so far. Also, this is coming from a hardcore Toyota fanboy so they're doing something right. I still love my Tundra tho.

[@vintagethrifter2114]

Good thing you didn't buy her a 2023 Sonata.

[@randoawesomemix9501]

@@stuffhappens5681 I worked at a Nissan/Hyundai dealership in 2013. I met multiple people whose Hyundai had 2 engine replacements before their 100k mile warranty was up. I had a slight disdain for Hyundai before working there but since, holy hell I won't be caught in one because I'm afraid that means I'd be caught DEAD in a Hyundai. One lady had brought her accent in because it kept blowing the fog lights out. A fog light assembly, wiring harness, fuse box and front bumper cover later, the service department set her up with a monthly appointment to get her fog light bulbs changed. They'd be blown by the time of her next appointment, 30 days later. Their cars are absolute trash.

[@pnmanktelow]

Let’s be real for a second. American cars are garbage.🗑️

[@vintagethrifter2114]

@@pnmanktelow so are European and Asian cars. They're all as reliable as a twenty year old car but a lot more expensive to fix and maintain.

[@highbrassrule]

"MONICAAAAA" was outta pocket lmao

[@theFormerYous2]

Right... Josh definitely into Fast n Furious😂

[@Enidx10]

I died

[@zhenya7992]

@@Enidx10 rip

[@joshua852009]

@@theFormerYous2he totally is

[@MariuszChr]

that was annoying

[@Escape-Hell]

"Im supprised it does not vibrate" that killed me

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

Surprised

[@Ymesgeno]

im happy im not the only one that caught that

[@metalmike570]

That's what she said!

[@1nvisible1]

*You forget to give Hyundai a Doug Score?*

[@NE_RC]

That was wild 🤣

[@vdubster]

Track day reference- watch Misha Charoudin, back to back hot laps at the Nurburgring with no overheating and no loss of performance, first EV he’s had capable of that.

[@Chris-hw4mq]

who knows if those are real, he worked for them

[@AdrienPierret]

@@Chris-hw4mq I did the taxi lap in the nurb two weeks ago with this car. The guy came from a lap, the customer stepped out, I stepped in, we went for the next one. We left with 46% battery and came back with 25%. I can confirm no loss of power, no brake fade. We did a chill 8 and a half minutes without pushing and in endurance mode without n pedal. It's just that fucking insane.

[@babisotonggg]

@@Chris-hw4mq go watch any, literally any review of Hyundai Ioniq5N on track/taxi.. they last forever

[@AdrienPierret]

People keep saying this car is too expensive vs M3P but keep in mind you're getting a daily practical crossover + a very capable track car for that price. For the M3P to come close to it on track it needs a few upgrades (cooling and brakes) so prices will be similar in the end. The M3P is great if you're planning to just do road, the 5 N is great if you plan to track it.

[@trex1448]

This car is faster, better build quality, better most everything, more space than m3p. It's not a comparison.

[@sheiladavis2304]

The N is for Namyang which is their headquarters for this division or Nuremberg which is where they did all of the testing of this line. I have to admit I love the look of this hot hatch. Also they are going back to full cockpit experience but yes with full cockpit mode comes the inevitable helmet fire of too many options and searching for what you need, but once you put some time into driving the car you will get the lay of the land. But as of right now this is my favorite EV. Hyundai used to be thought of as junk but now they are one of the most reliable with one of the best warranties on the market. They have truly gone to that next level.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Nuremberg? Nurburgring 😂

[@natej6671]

No lies were told here.

[@bawintermage8351]

We are watching you Hyundai, No "N's" for you!

[@UyeGaming]

Also Albert Biermann, the dude who help make the BWM M line, is the head of the N series.

[@AntoniusTyas]

Nurnberg and Nurburg are two completely different cities.

[@situationalawarenesssurviv7331]

I would not touch that car with a 1km pole. N-F that noise

[@nyc863]

when I was a kid I put playing cards on my spokes to make the bicycle more fun and alive, and its probably something similar with these EVs that make synthetic noises

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

I feel like, Smashing a pop can in the back wheel is more like it.. but yeah... Sort of... the same thing.

[@G82Watts]

Why play pretend when u can buy a car that actually does it. Will never make sense to me 😂

[@2010ngojo]

​@@G82Wattsbecause noise isn't the only thing people look for? Smh

[@idocmirk]

The noise is ridiculous. It’s an EV.

[@gregmcable]

Me too. Bit I grew out of it.

[@Man_v_Cars]

Americans classing this as a 'hot hatch' 😂😂😂 Here in the UK it's a a SUV.

[@kibels894]

It is marketed as a crossover SUV

[@Man_v_Cars]

​@@kibels894So an SUV, not a 'hot hatch'. Its a smidge smaller than a BMW X5.

[@no_goo]

It’s basically a dropped CUV

[@Forbrukarmakt]

when i saw hyundai norway advertise this as a "family SUV" i laughed out loud, clearly just a hatchback. the whole crossover craze is just overdone, not everything needs to be a crossover or suv to be attractive.

[@Man_v_Cars]

​@@Forbrukarmakt Its literally the size of an X5

[@Cloxxki]

It looks like a hatchback, but it's at 120% scale, right?

[@SuzukiKid400]

Yes, it’s huge. It’s no pocket rocket.

[@HeathRS]

That's my biggest gripe. I wish it was hot hatch sized.

[@mofayer]

It looks like a mini minivan.

[@heiner71]

@@HeathRS , Rivian R3

[@staterafukumoto]

@@heiner71 isn't that also about the same size as the 5 N?

[@Tarkov.]

Oh I love that little blind-spot camera that pops up on the dash while your turn signal is on.

[@TheSalPic]

I am a Hyundai owner from soon after when they started doing that and I don’t see how I can never go back. and I’m really surprised other cars that have both the 360° camera and digital dash aren’t doing it unless they have a patent or something

[@darkkforest]

​@@TheSalPic Pretty that can't be legal to have a patent on a safety feature like that.

[@joerogandlchairexpansion786]

​@@TheSalPichonda does the same thing

[@aronsingletary]

I'm personally not a fan. I don't have good visibility of the screen and prefer side mirrors

[@bobbyjeff32]

@@aronsingletary you got both

[@FattusCat]

Hyundai are growing exponentially in the UK due to their new approach to their cars, especially their Electric cars. We also get the i20N and i30N which are good fun cars. This Ionic 5 has been very popular, the N model has really excited people. Model 3 gets a lot of crap in the Uk for its fit and finish, plus the whole lack of storks/buttons/instrument cluster really puts people off. See far more electric cars of other car brands.

[@clifbradley]

The guy that started BMW M's division started Hyundai N's division. Also, Hyundai had the Veloster N and that was a huge seller for them and with them canceling the Veloster N, they said the Kona N would replace it, instead they made this. The N was there because it's the next evolution of M obviously

[@king_tut.]

😂

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

21:19 What BEV competes with 5N at the price? Not M3P, which has brakes that will literally catch fire and derate power down 50%m on a track. M3P can’t handle like 5N that can rotate under throttle, drift, or even brake anything close the 5N with its 0.4g of regen braking that seamlessly blend in with friction braking. 5N can lap the Nurburgring twice full power with no issues. M3P wouldn’t make it half around the track without brake failure and overheating its battery. If you really want to compete with the 5N, you need to go up to the Taycan Turbo S, which can only lap the Nurburgring once. There is literally no BEV that competes with the 5N at its price.

[@davejohnson6144]

Let’s face it how many normal people actually track race their car or drive so hard they smoke their brakes. I’d rather be seen and buy a 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance than this boyish hot hatch 😂.

[@S.Madman]

@@davejohnson6144 The model 3 is for really boring people. God, what a yawnfest. Seat on Ionic N. It is huge on the inside compared to an m3P.

[@did00p]

i agree with last statement. M3P is 58000 euros I5N is 75 000 euros. they are not comparable price-wise. If you went with ioniq 5N - and use it as a daily, youll be reminded by it's terrible efficiency compared to tesla. When you take it to track once per month you'll enjoy ioniq (like 1% of time driving it). also both cars will EAT tires on track ...

[@daexion]

@@did00p Terrible efficiency at what? Max range? cargo capacity? Seating capacity?

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

If we're being real the new taycan has everything beat when it comes to looks, interior, and performance. The 5N looks like a blown up child's RC car. The model 3 looks like the most bland dull basic traffic car ever. But people will still defend both cuz they can't afford a taycan. I get it.

[@Jonas_Meyer]

"N" stands for the birthplace of the car, which is Namyang, and its future development took place on the Nürburgring track.

[@eloycarrillo6808]

Also for Neuville. Wrc driver

[@metalmike570]

The N name doesn't feel right, says the black guy!!!!

[@peu815]

연구개발도 한국 남양에서 합니다.😂

[@peglor]

Hopefully it has a Fast and Furious mode where at least 500 gear shifts are needed to get to 60 mph.

[@metalmike570]

It's probably just 4 seconds, okay I think I missed your point!!

[@peglor]

@@metalmike570 I live my life a quarter mile at a time. Nothing else matters: not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bullshit. For those ten seconds or less, I'm free. 😀

[@metalmike570]

@@peglor Not bad, never stop pushing!!

[@Riikkyy]

@@peglorfamily

[@geogmz8277]

I have not seen the final results yet but Yesterday Misha Chouduri was in Australia World Time Attack and he was 20th position. FOR AN E-VE with just a wing and a front splitter that's damn impressive... Most cars there are pushing 1000Hp and have ridiculous modifications and Misha could just go to Walmart (if existed in Australia) after every lap...

[@xsiveone]

I don't think they were after an authentic engine sound. They can do better than that if they want to. This sounds like an old video game to me.

[@criticalevent]

I was thinking it had a PlayStation in the tail pipe for the outside sound.

[@GF-mf7ml]

They can even make straight cut gears sound. Make it sound like GT race car.

[@CoFRTheGamerXxX]

They should let owners download engine sounds (for example the 2JZGTE lol). I’m sure somebody will jailbreak a way around it. Although it did sound quiet outside the car.

[@Astryx]

Completely disagree about about the buttons, I think physical buttons and controls are way more important than on screen ones.

[@coenmoon-id6rm]

Yes

[@ingeborgsjon]

They are. Research have shown that for a few decades. Also Euro NCAP will start give cars without physical buttons (for important things) lower safety ratings.

[@junebug9267]

The biggest advantage this car has over the Model 3 is that it isnt assosiated with Elon. Just that is enough to get it decent sales tbh

[@JM-mn4ph]

Does the N stand for Nurburgring? Should have been PP for Pikes Peak! Who wouldn't want an electric PP? 😂

[@Get_yotted]

10:13 fellas I prefer a larger rear than a front. 15:20 Rich, sometimes the stereotypes write themselves

[@nimmy404]

what stereotype? thats clearly a finance managers car

[@marksauer7604]

My nearest Telsa service center is 2.5 hours away, need any collision repairs and I'm looking at months not weeks. This makes the N's extra cost a little more palatable.

[@KronicKatz]

Until you realize Hyundai techs, especially when it comes to the EV's are incompetent, unless you find the good ones. Many of us jumped ship due to the warranty issues.

[@ziggs123]

Sell it than 🤡🤡

[@CaptainPanick]

I am not a finance manager and do not drive a Dodge Charger, so through extrapolation I have to agree that it is a finance manager driving that car.

[@morstyrannis1951]

Is finance manager the KZbin acceptable code for drug dealer?

[@silv12]

@@morstyrannis1951 That would be a "Commodities Trader".

[@riverpirate1022]

Sorry most of those cars are driven by young black drug dealers and other loser types.

[@stupidas9466]

@@silv12nice one, well done!

[@Mquin02]

I drove from Tacoma, Wa, to WSU this weekend and I was surprised how many EVs I saw way out in the middle of Eastern Washington. There's nothing but farms for hundreds of miles. Just as I was mentioning it to my wife a Fisker Ocean passed by. It took some balls to take that out there!

[@mathomaatuark]

Was Stevon was killed off?

[@DatDeer.]

As far as I know, the 5N has a mode with maximum acceleration, but without any shifting or gas car simulation.

[@MrHehe77]

@richrebuilds please tell me you tried the red button on the steering wheel? Boosts like 50hp and cuts out the fake shifting / noise for full power.

[@AdrenoFTW]

All Hyundai has to do now is improve the range on their EVs. Even so, the 5 N is a crazy deal all things considered.

[@MB-jz3uu]

The problem is 5Ns aero. Thr ioniq 6n will hopefully be a best of both world

[@Twenty1world]

It can drive up to 450 km under normal driving conditions. It is not that bad.

[@Shiftheads]

I wouldn't say it's quite a deal since it's 70k

[@AdrenoFTW]

@@Twenty1world it's not bad range, I'm just saying a longer range EV would be nice. Also 450km is city range, whereas highway is 350 or less.

[@AdrenoFTW]

@@Shiftheads just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's a good deal. If I buy a pair of headphones for $400 and they're the best sounding pair for the price, I'd say that's a good deal.

[@Clearphish]

Checked the Pike's Peak stuff. Both the 2021 Plaid and the 2025 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N TA Spec were Out-Of-Spec projects with Randy Pobst as the driver each time. The time for the N was 9:55.551. There was a higher spec model from Spain that ran 9:30.852 The Plaid did not run this year. Last year it ran 9:54.901. So Randy missed beating his Tesla time by .650 seconds, but really less than a sneeze. Last year had major weather issues. I don't know what challenges they had this year. Above are the official times from the Pikes Peak website. I also got this quote from an INSIDEEVS article that states: IONIQ 5 N TA (Time Attack) Spec wins the exhibition class with a record of 9 mins 30 secs, while IONIQ 5 N follows with an impressive 10 mins 49 secs result. I think 9 minutes 56 seconds is even more impressive.

[@sungbaek3526]

Just wanted to correct you, the one that ran the 9:30 was the same build as the one Randy drove. They had 2 TA spec cars (same build for both). Randys time wasn't lower because I believe he was called in as a replacement driver a couple weeks before the event, so he didn't have much time with the car before the race.

[@Clearphish]

@@sungbaek3526 Why would INSIDEEVS say that one was IONIQ 5 N TA (Time Attack) Spec and the other was just IONIQ 5 N? Were they modded differently, even if they were the same cars to begin with?

[@sungbaek3526]

​@Clearphish They ran 3 cars. 2 of them were TA spec, and 1 was a production model. The reason they ran multiple cars is because you never know whap happen and they wanted the records. They actually had 2 regular production cars set to compete but one of them crashed during practice.

[@lateefcarrere1649]

This sounds like the RC cars of my youth...all it needs is an extended piece of wire to resemble the antenna.😁

[@outermarker5801]

Geez, did the dealer also say the Nav was already programed with the nearest Popeye's? 🤪

[@jpizel1070]

😂😂😂

[@mauriziomauricone]

It’s even called the “N” 😂

[@UNLOCKsilo]

I wonder if the first cars made horse sounds

[@tomasrosalesr]

Underrated comment 😂

[@focussport]

😂... but for real, if they had the tech, they would have

[@InHypnoticTrance]

The clip clop noises.

[@morstyrannis1951]

@@InHypnoticTrancecoconut shells brought over by a European swallow?

[@jpizel1070]

😂😂😂

[@DarthFurball]

The Hyundai WRC engineers had a blast tuning this thing.

[@0xKruzr]

14:20 this is the point at which you guys finally cracked up with the "N" bit and I lost it 😂

[@eugene4296]

I dont know what you did, but go apologise to Stevon, big man, that's your friend.

[@gord7025]

you missed the language setting options. If you scrolled down the screen further, it was under N-Word

[@JuanLopez-oz9kh]

If this car had a Benz of Porche emblem, you would have paid $200k, but since it has a economic badge people care calling it expensive.. judge the fun part of the car not the brand. Hyundai group will show people what they are capable off. I own Toyotas only and looking to get one N.

[@metalmike570]

Hyundai's engineers are South Korean, it's cutting edge tech from them.

[@Globbs]

I don't like the term hothatch for this car, it's enormous.

[@focussport]

It's big, but it's still a hatchback. Hot hatches have always been small, but being small is not a pre-requisite for being a hot hatch. I love this thing, but it really would be better if it were smaller and lighter. 4700lbs is a LOT. My full fat big boy S6 "only" weighs 4200lbs.

[@humanform5354]

@@focussport Until battery technology improves, we're gonna be stuck with heavy EV's, unfortunately...

[@focussport]

@@humanform5354 this is true, but I'm hoping that as EVs continue to propagate and battery tech improves we'll have lighter and more energy dense aftermarket options. Kinda like engine swapping for the 21st century.

[@poplaurentiu4148]

@@focussport Is still better to call it a hot-hatch it sounds so much cooler (like hott-wheels) instead of Cross-over thing or SUV..

[@twoswords4318]

@@focussport 4700 is a lot, it's massive, but at least most of that weight is in the batteries and the batteries themselves are in the bottom portion of the chassis, giving it a low center of gravity.

[@Wüstenfuchs-x2b]

The Ioniq 5N is the best EV out there and will likely be overtaken by the Ioniq 6N or the Genesis EV supercar.

[@denvera1g1]

4:39 Personally, i would prefer cars to have both, like, i get it, screens make cars easier/cheaper to manufacture, they also increase reliability overall(fewer failure points) but i just like to be able to reach down without taking my eyes off the road and do the thing i intend to do rather than press the ejecto-seato or release the trailer hitch when i just wanted to change radio stations. Me personally, i do like the redundancy of having both input methods as it means if one fails, i have the other to fail back to.

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

Ive been to their Namyang R&D place and they have their own little skunk-works division of people for the N cars. Its really cool, young guys and girls and they had their own cool manga style "N-boys" (or something like that) t-shirts. So a really fun bunch of people who are clearly having fun taking EVs in their own direction. They also have a place in Russelsheim that i think has been responsible for a lot of the "rise" of Hyindai/Kia into a place where people will readily consider one over a VW/Honda/Toyota etc. IMO they make some of the most interesting "normal" cars on the road.

[@andrefrbk]

Super N mode.... Yeah thats weird....

[@carknat3214]

N race bahahahaha

[@BC-ji9xr]

As a clownshoe owner myself, I couldn't ever imagine selling it. You are going to miss it!

[@GoingShirtless]

Should have been on a custom radio channel All 'N Sync All Day. 🎶 It's Gonna Be Me 🎶

[@rene7071]

The N stands for Namyang (Korea) or Nürburgring (GER), the two racetracks where the Hyundai N models are developed and optimized. :)

[@JFabric500]

There needs to be a Southpark episode about this car

[@DragnDon]

Cool vid Rich. My biggest, and only concerns are two things. I lived in South Korea for 5 years, did a bunch of tech support/website stuff there, and I'm still unconvinced of their overall/longterm build quality. Also, their recent 'hands off' $50K battery replacement price for the Ionic 5 on two different vehicles for undamaged batteries(just the external cover was damaged). Writing off the car for essentially cosmetic damage seems pretty shady. Would love to see a vid from you on those incidents.

[@Blink-Ensu]

I mean ... if you think this is unique to this electric car making company ... I got bad news for you. You have a point but that doesn't make them any worse than anyone else. Which says a lot more about the waning power of consumers than it does Hyundai.

[@humanform5354]

A lot of people say "it's too expensive" but here's what they're not considering. In order for this car to be this unique in the way it does what it does, you need creative engineering and software development. Theses things cost money, and to me it's worth it.

[@b0nz1official]

It's so expensive because it isn't subsidized like the Tesla. Simple as that. Here in Europe the gap between this and the M3P (which is neutered in our market by Tesla compared to the US version) is much smaller.

[@miguelvega7769]

If that’s the case then dodge, ford, Toyota is justified in they prices as well huh😂😂😂hell even BMW and Mercedes basically everyone

[@humanform5354]

@@miguelvega7769 Well fortunately, the consumer has the final say. If you think it's not worth the money, don't invest. It's that simple. I'm merely coming at it from a different angle in that no other manufacturer has thought of this. Also, if you look at the numbers this car puts out in HP/TQ it's a bargain for the price. Not to mention the absolute spanking it's able to give most performance cars on the road while still being able to seat 5 adults comfortably. And the best part, it doesn't look like a worn bar of soap, sorry Tesla...

[@daexion]

@@miguelvega7769 US automakers take a loss on every EV they sell, even if they get subsidized, so, yes, their prices are justified.

[@jpizel1070]

Ok so go ahead and pay the 20k premium over a model 3 performance.

[@MeltySlush]

From what i remember too the shifting and "gears" are designed with track use in mind, helping the driver better understand what the car is doing since ev's typically dont make noise it can be hard to guage how the car is actually reacting, especially if you normally drive gas cars. Its something new and i think it worked honestly

[@philscott7949]

N for Nürburgring.

[@AdrenoFTW]

@@philscott7949 Nürburgring and Namyang

[@Passions]

Hyundai is from Korea, not Germany.

[@cameltoast]

​@@Passionshe was confidently incorrect 😂

[@themountainwillfall5274]

Greatest praise I can give to Rich is…he has been out here for years makin vids and he’s still not annoying af. A unicorn amongst sheep. 👏👏👏

[@rg807]

It's basically an electric Hellcat. These are going to get crashed a lot, especially by guys under 25.

[@JayLiquori]

Hellcat owners care more about their masculinity than EV owners who are consistently faced with scorn from losers and just dgaf

[@i.d.6492]

What guy under 25 can afford this car?🤣

[@Utbr88]

Price is more than justified as this car is track ready out of factory. You can bring it to any tracks and beat the 💩 out of M3 performance or even MS Plaid due to its track performance suspension and brake. Teslas will not even last one lap in Nurburgring with full braking and accelerating as its brake will fail. 5 N can do 3 laps without even single brake overheating.

[@bunyaminyilmaz3798]

I dont know, why many people in US hates Hyundai. They have excellent finish, make stable cars and they give a hell of guarantee years for that cars. 5 years up to 10 years.

[@ventilate4267]

Probably because of things like theta engines and the whole USA engine immobilizer debacle

[@AJKLOS34]

I haven’t watched many of your videos, but I just listened to your book. Thank you for writing it. Excellent read.

[@dreplays3118]

I have the veloster N, the N stands for namyang where they’re built in sound Korea

[@dreplays3118]

Also the bucket seats suck on long road trips

[@Get_yotted]

No it stands for

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Also Nürburgring where its chassis dynamics and power train are tuned.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@dreplays3118these are very comfortable for long trips

[@flatfoot1983]

sound Korea 😂

[@cyphre]

The buttons and overall driver interface is AMAZING. This is way closer to what I would look for in an electric vehicle; a car, but with an electric motor.

[@nick15331]

I loved this car during the test drive but it was hard to justify the sub 200 mile range in real world driving.

[@EdMiF]

Well, some are getting closer to 260 or so miles out of them.

[@pickelkilla]

@@EdMiF Not this version though

[@EdMiF]

@@pickelkilla Yes, this version.

[@killurtv319]

The range is my problem I waited for this car and didn't buy a limited but the charging is pretty fast...I'm shopping for one of these now

[@doomsday9973]

@@EdMiFyeah that’s rare. And you have to pretty much hypermile it. Face it the range is awful

[@adamnevinsftw]

The N stands for two things; Namyang The district in South Korea where Hyundai's Global R&D Center is located. This is where the Veloster N was developed and engineered. Nürburgring The racetrack in Germany where Hyundai has a development center and tests its N vehicles. The N logo also represents a tight turn in the road, like a chicane. Doug DeMuro H2 video vibes hardcore

[@waltciii3]

Back to N Race mode. There is a German car that can go in to Master Race mode... I saw it on Throttle House.

[@vorovee3]

I don’t know anything about the N car, but one thing I noticed that you didn’t mention is that when you turn the blinker on a round video screen appears in front of you. It shows the side of the car that you’re turning into which is kind of neat.

[@LilaKuhJunge]

1:12 ahhh the N-word, how dare they...

[@scurfdude]

I quite like that there are actual buttons. And it’s annoying to have buttons on the steering wheel for which there are no equivalent buttons for the passenger to control. I had a loaner vehicle for a week where the volume control was only on the steering wheel. Very annoying for when my passenger wanted to change the volume.

[@EdwardSinclair]

10:40 That is an interesting tingling feeling. The N before everything reminds me of some of my African ancestry. Did you know that in the N'dongo Kingdom in Africa most of the past rules ("N'golas") had names such as; N'gola Kiluanje, N'gola M'bandi, N'zinga M'bande, etc... and they even have a beer called N'Gola. The funniest thing is that in their language you join the N exactly like you did Nrace, exactly spot on!

[@matthewmorton6462]

In the UK the Ionic 5 N is £5000 more than a modle 3 Performance so id probably go for the Ionic if i was in the market

[@i.d.6492]

Here you can find them over msrp as well. Just because it goes there $8K over doesn't mean it's literally every dealership that sells it sells it for over msrp. Do some research

[@craigcox]

I recently took a trip to the nurburgring and had a taxi in a i30 N performance and it's blown me away as a standard road car. The performance was very impressive but the handling on standard road tyres even in damp conditions was incredible. I think the N range has a very bright future. Great video as always 😊

[@TroyArn]

I'd feel foolish as a 50 year old asking my electric car to make vroom-vroom noises. does it have an amish clip-clop mode?

[@metalmike570]

Chill mode

[@noidea5987]

Lmao

[@NinoNlkkl]

I'm in my 50s and want the pops n crackles.

[@leodalkey651]

While most car companies are struggling Hyundai starts pooping out performance turbocharged vehicles and electrics. Elantra has a history dating back to the mid 80's with the Tiburon platform which was Korea's first foray into tuners. Hyundai wanted to bust into Toyota's market, they chose the Elantra to be the spiritual successor to the Tiburon in the U.S. This time with 4 doors. I drive the gen 4 which is just a little 4 banger but certified bulletproof with a ton of miles.

[@rmp5s]

The "engine sounds, sim shifting" stuff is a perfect example of a neat idea executed REALLY well.

[@Cakebattered]

Given how it performed on Pikes Peak and the nurburgring, its got the performance to back up it gimmicks.

[@rmp5s]

@@Cakebattered Yea, for sure. Pretty solid car overall, especially for an EV.

[@msw7021]

Imagine trying to impress you friends with that nonsense

[@rmp5s]

@@msw7021 Imagine trying to impress your friends in an EV.

[@danielpark66]

The N stands for Namyang which is race track in Korea where Hyundai tested this car and R & D located. Its like BMW's M series.

[@HeathRS]

I love that this simulates the DSG fart. It's favorite part about my GTI. I could get a laugh out of this. I keep thinking this may be my next car over even the Golf R.

[@f.kieranfinney457]

It’s a gimmick that will get old quickly.

[@HeathRS]

@@f.kieranfinney457 a minor amusement sure, but this thing is fast enough to make up for it.

[@johnmckenney9241]

In Australia they start @ $125,000 au and $130,000 au with the Vision Roof + Options like $1000 for premium paint

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

9:38 Wow. The last car I owned with reclining back seats was... a Subaru Forester... Props for that feature. My kids.... LOVED that... whined for a long time after we got a newer one.. that did not have that feature..

[@Get_yotted]

All Hyundai crossover/suv’s have reclining seats. My 2017 Santa Fe has reclining rear seats, and they recline a decent amount. It’s so nice my parents always want to borrow it for their roadtrips with my siblings

[@stupidas9466]

My 2006 infiniti m35x has power reclining rear seats, and when i drive my 6'8” buddy with my other buddies (poker nights!) he sits in the rear and fits comfortably. Bolsters raise up the front part of the seat as well.

[@bfvader]

Unpopular opinion - "minimalism" is just rebranded cost-cutting. Software is so much cheaper than dedicated buttons and switchgear. Also the N E-shift mode is significantly slower than the standard EV mode. You can also hit the red NGB button on the wheel to bring you up to 641hp for 10sec. Giving you a 2.8sec 0-60, significantly faster than the Model 3 Performance's 3.4sec.

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

Hyundai hired so many BMW M engineers 😂😂

[@maxiferrari08]

And what's the problem? If Hyundai lets them do what they want it's a win for us

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

@@maxiferrari08 Imagine thinking there's a problem 🤣🤣🤣

[@bewernia]

One thing with ICE cars on a track is when the tank gets low the weight affects the performance. With an EV the state of charge goes down with no weight advantage and the performance goes down too. So for a track car, which will weigh a lot in EV, I'm not a fan...still.

[@mtotheatothedoubled]

i hope someone at the company sees this because Super N mode is out of pocket

[@cameltoast]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ksnax]

Enable the AM radio on your i3 if you want feedback. (Yep, there's a reason it's hidden by default.)

[@DankUrbanBoss]

Stevon will be dearly missed

[@Airjy]

13:35 "you don't want the regular you want the "N", that letter man there is something about it" This is where I finally got the joke, took me back to the previous moments he mentioned the "N" modes and stuff and I could not stop laughing from then on.

[@beachboardfan9544]

70k is fuckin absurd!

[@biglee13m]

The next performance up cars are 2~3 times more expensive.

[@J00eI]

Like this car a lot. Very capable straight from factory, nice to drive and quite powerful-ish. Only downsides compared to Model 3 Performance is range (in real life) and especially price (almost 31k$ more than M3P here in Finland).. In our tracks M3P is more than enough after changing brake fluid and pads, gets rid of brake fading.

[@johnniehasaproblem]

The clownshoe is a keeper. No questions

[@DiscoFang]

Shame it's not a driver too. Like he said, it hasn't moved or been touched since the video two years ago. It's an idealized 25 yo nostalgia.

[@pallharaldsson9015]

Click-bait title "most hated clown car" (got me curious), it's sounded bad, but is actually referring to 1:05 "my beloved BMW clown shoe", I wasn't aware, but “clown shoe”, just refers to it's distinctive shape, and 28:45 "it's a great driver's car. It's a 25-year-old BMW". The video is mostly not about the BMW, except very briefly at those two spots.

[@PatsGarageOnline]

I just test drove one as well. Totally awesome vehicle. Hope to have my video out SOON

[@lazy-rabbitz]

I can’t believe we are at the point of putting sound effects in hot hatch and people don’t think it’s gimicky.

[@Thermo-kun]

Cause it’s not.

[@lazy-rabbitz]

@@Thermo-kun putting car sounds in quiet car to make up for something that is lost. It should be able to stand on its own account, not be supplemented by sound effects. We will look back on this and chuckle.

[@Thermo-kun]

@@lazy-rabbitz not really. It’s actually a little funny touch. You’re acting like a drama queen

[@TAWithiam]

it's a toy, a fun toy! It's not just sound effects, it's a simulator too, so I'd give it more props. It feels tastefully executed but I wouldn't regularly use it.

[@amaanahmed3747]

Gear changes on an ev, even if they are artificial, is much cooler than actual gear changes on an ice car

[@MPooower201]

I think Hyundai was developing e powertrain since 2001 as far as remember. Not a new commer like the most of the traditional OEMs

[@DivinityOfBLaze]

"What were you thinking?" F... finance manager" I swear I thought he was going to say "N Finance Manager"

[@denvera1g1]

5:50 Take a look at the Grenadier, this is the other extreme both the front console, and overhead switches look like a freaking military transport helicopter with the number of knobs, switches, toggles and mini-screens. Honestly, i love it, i want Inios to make a hot hatch that makes me feel like i'm driving some sort of space ship

[@JustinTime-pw9oy]

I got mine last week and love it. Best car I ever owned. Fast and fun!

[@heiner71]

You probably should drive it for a year before calling it "Best car I ever owned".

[@JustinTime-pw9oy]

@heiner71 lol true. But so far it's my favorite.