Selling Our Skoolie | Why we're trading Bus Life for Van Life

[@lovehomesteading1134]

We have found that the only thing that stays the same is that things are going to change. I think that it is great that you two have realized that you dreams have shifted and had the courage to change with them. The thing that a lot of people seem to be forgetting (from what I can see) is that if vanlife doesn't work out the way you are hoping that it does you can always come back and convert another bus. Without change and the growth it brings with it, we might as well be dead =)

[@rebeccastock4107]

I can see the benefits to sell the bus, i guess some people have become attached to the asthetic. I definitely have! Keep being cool, followers will continue to tune in for the quality content. ❤

[@andreafolda1719]

Minimalism is addictive! We have been on the road for two years, and I still reduce things! If it wasn’t used in a year, it leaves the bus! The toaster is a problem! We use it about twice a year!😂🤣

[@Rolling_Vistas]

We have several of toaster-like items! The stuff you use a only a few times a year are the tricky ones in minimalism

[@anabelletalstein2479]

Try using a flat top griddle or a portable bbq for toast. Back during our hotel life, we used a flat top griddle in a hotel for toasting our toast, cooking our bacon, and frying our eggs

[@davidmelcher3757]

I learned quickly just how many things you can cook in a fry pan...toast is better in a fry pan imho

[@rcrobertson9563]

I personally think it's a big downgrade from a beautiful home on wheels to a tin can. In any event, I'll still be here because I love your channel and you guys too

[@mikeklakowicz1186]

I thought the same exact thing before I came to the comments. When thier banging heads off the ceiling and walls and all stuffed up with no room 😒 they will be wishing that they never sold out to a sardine can. But on a lighter note I wish them the best

[@rcrobertson9563]

@@mikeklakowicz1186 I haven't watched them in a long time...hope they are well

[@wcarlhepker4806]

I like the rustic look and your schoolie has hit all the right buttons for me. It was topped off when you put the wood stove in it. You could hit every RV dealer in the country and none of them would have a wood stove for heat. They might have an electric simulated fire place but not a real wood stove. You have a virtual cabin in the woods on wheels. I have loved it. Thank you for sharing your build and travels with us. You two are a great couple and a lot of that comes out in your schoolie. I wish you the very best as you transition to your next phase!! I love hearing Tiff singing the closing song on each of your postings! Don't change that when you change your abode on wheels, please!! You two take good care of each other!! Don't ever neglect that!!!

[@MelaniePhoenix]

Rolling Vistas in a van? Yes, please! This nomadic lifestyle is all about being open to new things and change. Thanks for giving us a heads-up on the live chat!

[@madilynmei]

I didnt know you cut your hair! Its adorable!!!

[@beachysands4036]

Not surprising, it seems like a lot of people change rigs after the first year. Can’t wait to see the new build!

[@mazzcleary9909]

Literally gutted, your bus is my inspiration for wanting to live tiny. If I could buy the bus I would in a heart beat! Wishing you well in where ever life decides to take you! Bus or van I’ll still be here you all are to cool 🤙❤️🤘❤️

[@drewp1974]

This REALLY HELPS. .. I just bought a 7.3L 2001 24ft shuttle bus. And had mild buyers remorse for not buying bigger. Now I’m CONVINCED I should not have gone bigger. The one I bought is fine to drive. Good tires.,, Thanks guys

[@deestanley9774]

My husband and I have always had RV’s but your bus was the first I had seen and started following you two. I know you know what your doing and I can’t wait to see your new build in your van. I’m excited for you both!! Love from Oklahoma!!

[@andrewearnest1]

Your bus and amazing personalities were my inspiration to begin the bus-life. I appreciate you so much and I am totally with you regardless of what vehicle you're in! I would buy your bus in a flash, but funds are low and I want to make my own. Keep being awesome and I can't wait for Sunday!

[@katsutsuki]

Love Tiffs new hairstyle such a difference from a year ago

[@charleselertii6187]

Hi Zac and Tiff. Never had a schoolie or a van. But my cousin Bob and his wife have a big 40 foot pusher diesel motor home that I have spent a lot a time with. They have an awning that quickly can roll out from the right side that gives instant covered outdoor space that works great for sun protection and rain. Allows them a place to set-up. They have these polypropolene? (don't know) outdoor carpets that they put out for their outdoor floor surface under the roll-out awning. The door to entry is on the right side, so it helps keep dirt and mud out. Pretty fast to set up. I love your channel. You are a wonderful couple. Fast set-up of the immediate outdoor space might be real useful for the van. You probably already know this but just putting it out there. I was impressed over the years how fast we could be outdoors under cover and not standing in mud or dirt. The rolled up polypropolene carpet fits in their outdoor lockers. Don't know how to accomodate in a van. Just my two cents. Good Job you both. Regards, Chuck in Wildomar, CA soon to move to Florida.

[@karenbremer5156]

Looking forward to your new build. For me the awning has been a lifesaver with the dogs on a rainy day😊

[@lc10w]

Don't do a van! Yeah, down-size for sure, but vans are too much a compromise, been there done that, learned the lesson. I built a Sprinter but the curved walls are frustrating during construction, and claustrophobic and space-robbing when finished. Had a good run with it, but now building a 4x4 Mitsubishi Canter with an expedition camper box on the back. Nice square sides makes construction so much easier, and 4x4 gets you to the places you've said you're missing out on in the skoolie. Doesn't have to be a Canter, there's plenty of chassis choices (F550 etc), - you could even get lucky and find one of those 4x4 shortie skoolies. And with an expedition-style camper, the US becomes just a small part of the world!

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

To each their own...

[@Rolling_Vistas]

Hey everyone! We decided to do a premiere style video because it features a live chat room so we’re going to try to answer as many questions as we can during and after the video. Update: If you missed the live chat room, you can replay the chat with the video to see some questions answered. Thanks to everyone who participated 😊

[@sierrajackson1081]

I love this couple!!!!

[@Avramy6829]

They have new short school busses that might be bigger then a van

[@AlaskanCharlie]

And some are larger than others. I have seen some that have a box that is not much bigger than a van, and then some that the box is noticeably larger on the same chassis.

[@bill-chichi9701]

Everybody has an opinion, but it’s your life and you do what’s best for you. I just like you guys sharing your adventures. Enjoy life.

[@tripletgirl2484]

Change is good, it's a natural progress of life. Enjoy!

[@sailingavocet]

indeed!

[@KingTesticus]

Hmm, that's a bit disheartening. I began working on a 37 ft rear engine bus and I give your channel a heaping helping of the inspiration. I have the entire PV system components, a 4.5 KW setup. Not bragging, just saying. I decided to install the electrical system first so I can use it to assist with the build process. But let that go. Good luck. We wish you well.

[@cebaker5671]

Hi. The system I mentioned in the chat was the 80/20 system. Even if you aren't interested in the system the KZbin channel "Humble Road" has great instructional videos like how to properly measure your van etc. I'm not trying to sell you on the system but the channel is incredibly instructive. I'm just so thrilled for you guys and look forward not only to your build but your travels to perhaps more places like central America or even Europe. Hehe ...I'm thinking big for you guys. Please check out Humble Road. Lots of good vibes going your way from Canada.

[@andreawisner7358]

I just found Humble Road. Don't know why I didn't find him earlier!!

[@welcome2myworld1.o89]

If you buy a minivan I highly highly highly recommend the AWD Toyota Sienna between the years of 2007-2010

[@Love18wheelz]

I think there are so many good points. Its hard when we live in a faster based society and dependant on wifi. And I sense the tension between yall. Peace and hope all things work out for ya.

[@DoodleOnAMotorcycle]

Excited to see how the new van turns out!!!!!!

[@Yeetus223]

I Lived in a bus for a while. I was always harassed by the cops in cities. When i switched to a van never had a single problem parking any where. And better mpg was so nice especially since I‘m not the type to spange.

[@karenriggle5435]

How is that going to go for the dogs

[@x35mmman]

I totally agree with your statement ]

[@jimwillson365]

You need to go to Petsmart and get a FURminator brush.. my dog and cat love it and they go weeks without shedding after a good brush.

[@JensGraikowski]

I'd have never thought I'd enjoy watching 50 mins of two people just talking, but this was so interesting. I've been following you guys for quite some time (I know I hardly ever comment and I often even forget to "like" a video. I'm sorry about that, since I know you guys depend on that kind of thing, but I guess I'm just a typical KZbin user. Always just consuming and no interaction and I do regret that) and I just love your down to earth approach and your natural way. I'm excited to follow you on this new adventure too. It really does sound like it's the next natural step for you guys. I'd love to convert a bus too, but I guess I'm just a coward. But maybe one day (when I'm good and ready) I will and until then videos like yours are the next best thing. All the best to you. 👍🏼😉 Btw. If you're looking for technical advice for your van build, have a look at Greg Virgoe's channel. kzbin.info That guy's brilliant and extremely knowledgeable. Good luck! 👍🏼😉

[@Chefsantatravels]

LOL you're jumping out of the bus and I'm jumping in I'm looking at a bus on Friday fully converted 23 foot B-800 Bus it's got the best engine 5.9 L L6 I'm not really upset about the speed I'm retired I don't have to be no place in a hurry LOL and it's just the right size for me and my 100 pound dog. Most of the work is done .Congratulations good luck I'll be following you on the build of your new home🎉👍,🎅🤙

[@subuer]

If you get that bus then be sure to enjoy yourself!

[@Rolling_Vistas]

That’s awesome! I hope you find the one!

[@kimgardnerrealestate]

Wow guys!! You will sooooo enjoy a van! We can get ours on our levelling blocks all set up....when we want to go to town, we just roll off n go! My hubby can sooo ba k us right up on the blocks just right on!! We still provision up before we go in and then rent a golf cart in Key West or bike to the harbour for lobster, PEI. You will LOVE it! We did 6500 km out east to PEI and the Cabot Trail! Last Sept. this April n May we did 6500 km to Key west n soooo much more!! Enjoy n pm me if you’d like any pics or suggestions for vanning!! Kim

[@mizpappas]

Good for you 💖

[@paulacampbell2064]

I totally agree with you going to a van. I first wanted a short school bus because of the charm but decided a van is more practical for me

[@xIMT23x]

The Bird House Skoolie here! I'm excited to see talks new adventure and watching it unfold. Congratulations guys!

[@anthonyreo5075]

Stealth camping is actually pretty cool, in my experience(s). I spent 5 years living in a van and, while not by choice, I made the most of it and made it work for me. I also spent 9 years stealth camping in residential areas of Southern California without a vehicle! Now that was challenging!

[@fairrider3346]

THANK YOU. I WAS THINKING ABOUT A BUS BUILDOUT BUT NOW I THINK A VAN WOULD BE MUCH BETTER.

[@williamstachour4019]

I definitely think there’s something to having a new vehicle. My Ford experiences have been great (two Ecoboosts, no issues whatsoever). I think the question will be whether there is some threshold of minimalism below which long term satisfaction is hard to sustain. Few of us must know where that line is-you guys are much better positioned to answer that question-but that’s the thing that comes to mind for me. I’m super-eager to watch the van build and the next adventures!

[@lorenl9262]

I have not made the final decision to go the route of living on the road but based on the turn of the pandemic and the economy, I am seriously considering my options. I appreciate you take on what it is like but it must feel like going from a 3 bedroom house to a studio apt. I am sure that you will ultimately make the right decision and I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors!!

[@teresapadrick7]

To me the pleasure of traveling together in one vehicle can’t be overstated, y’all are so dang cute together! You won’t continue to drive the car, will you? Happy for you!

[@maolor1603]

Your reasons are all understandable and it totally make sense! I can’t wait to see your new van!!!

[@Daplinksta]

Can't wait to see it you guys keep us in the loop!

[@BERRIRICH]

Can't wait, to go on another step, in your life, with Y'all. We GONNA be fine.

[@timamyett]

Thanks ...this helps me define what style of travel/home I need.

[@dhcrasher1]

Soooo excited for all your plans ! Looking forward to your update videos, build and travel 😃

[@MsSoozy]

It is an amazing bus and you should be proud of yourselves. This bus is just so my style, wood and wood stove and well, everything. Van is going to be so much different, and you will see with the first 24 hours how different. You can get some nice sized vans tho' too, and so many people live in them comfortably with and without dogs. You will be fine, but smaller! :) Have fun.

[@dianematuszak6346]

I wish the best for you both Will keep watching

[@sjackson99]

I don't think the factory has started building AWDs yet so delivery probably won't happen until after the first of the year. I'd get your order placed ASAP. I bought a 2018 high roof extended and had it converted by Quadvan. Back then AWDs were just a rumor. I'm happy with it because I've had 4WD pickups most of my life and don't think I would have been happy with an AWD. It sounds like you know the difference. Most people don't. Recently read that the factory swivel isn't available with the power seat. I would definitely get a power driver's seat so you can get comfortable on long drives. There are aftermarket swivels that will work on a power seat. There's a larger fuel tank option available on the 2020, that's a must have. I would join the Ford Transit USA Forum if you haven't already done so. There's a member named CrewVanMan. He's a salesman at Matt Ford in Kansas City where the Transit factory is located. He only deals with Transits and knows more about the Transit than most salesman. I just subscribed to your channel and I'm looking forward to watching your van build.

[@kaisenji]

This is like the second or third couple/family I have seen that has sold off their vehicle with less than 24 months into it. What's everyone doing? I've had a bus-loved the hell out of it. I've had RV rentals which are yummy! If you are looking for speed with options but really do not want to lose the space, a truck/trailer combo works better. Ever sit in a space the size of tent for hours due to bad weather? I have. Not fun. Would rather have a root canal without drugs. Anyway, good luck on your adventure w/ the van. Not my thing but to each thine own. We are waffling between an Class C upgrade RV or a Class A with slide outs. If we found a bus for sale mostly done, we'd could do that too.

[@toronado455]

I am so glad you are choosing the new Ford Transit! I think you are making a great choice!

[@tracythorn2918]

Well, I'm excited! I found your channel as you were moving into bus life. I'm very interested to see your choices with the van build and see how your personal transition goes.

[@gonzo919]

Dont get rid of your bus untill you see what van life is like after living in a big home...either way good luck to you guys

[@rvwall-e]

Reading a lot of negative reviews of Transit vans regarding rust and build quality. Please be careful.

[@jessejenn2408]

I'm excited to see how you are going to design your new van!! Your bus is my tiny home/Skoolie inspiration, but personally I also wanted something shorter, so I am super excited. I've been saving up to do this myself, I wish I saved enough by now to purchase your Skoolie as my first stepping stone, but hopefully now this just puts my bum into gear to save more for my own conversion.

[@David-rx2to]

Instead of the AWD Ford Transit, consider a Quigley converted 4x4 Transit. They use factory original Ford parts from Ford's pickup trucks and have a 5 year 60,000 mile warranty. They can be serviced at any Ford dealer. The Quigley 4x4 is superior to AWD in terms of traction off road. The AWD Transit will not be lifted at all, so no extra ground clearance for off road excursions. I believe the Quigley's have a mild lift. There is a number of Ford dealers across the country that carry inventory of Quigley converted 4x4 Transits. I don't know where you are right now but, here is a link to Newburg Ford in Newburg OR. They have 17 Quigley converted Transits in stock right now. The inventory is the lowest I've seen, I guess because it's the end of the model year. They usually have 40+ Quigley's in stock. There are other dealers across the US too. www.newbergford.com/new-commercial-inventory?SolrBody=Van%204X4

[@swamphick7553]

So very excited for you!

[@Uncivilize]

Two people AND two dogs in a van? Oh my goodness. I have just myself and one dog and it's a lot!

[@michelleholmes8642]

I'd buy your bus if I could afford it. Sadly convience store clerks dont make much. I can't wait to see the new build. Totally stoked for you guys!

[@heatherhoward4289]

I LOVE your bus! You two are my main inspiration! So cool and so cute! I've enjoyed watching you thus far! Cant wait to see the new build! We are in the dreaming stage!

[@Mr316jon316]

Too bad you guys stopped posting just found you guys

[@carlaifera5254]

......yeah.......now gonna check out your new van.......🙋‍♀️✝☕

[@justwant2Bfree]

Congratulations and good luck on your new adventure you guys!! I'll be following along for sure! :)

[@dunklematerie3990]

I'm crying :( :( :( love your guy's vids, just verry sad for the bus. I'm verry exited for the van though

[@ImAlive11550]

I deleted my comment: I didn't actually finish watching the video to see a short school bus was out of the question. Have you considered a 2019 Ford transit (gas engine) short school bus, all the benefits you want PLUS extra space after it's all built out. (Probably not awd though) BUT you could take it to QUIGLEY for a ford authorized 4wd conversion. (Not cheap)

[@sjackson99]

Or Quadvan if they're closer. Also a Ford certified upfitter.

[@chelsearockwood3959]

Love your nomadic lifestyle! Are you going to have a bathroom and kitchen in the van build?

[@mountainsquds3320]

I really loved you guys a lot ... you both are a wonderful couple ... I feel like I lived with you guys in that bus . When you need a change do it ... good luck ... hope you don’t change your channels name .

[@DannyTP1888]

I'm sure you've already considered this but an awning is a great way to maximise your outside space when you get your van on the road. looking forward to the new build.

[@Rolling_Vistas]

Yes! An awning would be awesome especially for a van.

[@DannyTP1888]

@@Rolling_Vistas 💖

[@thomasbarlow4223]

What you want is a shuttle bus they are heavy duty commercial vehicles and a perfect in the middle size

[@HimmelbergerBus]

I dunno, sounds like a coach bus might work better :-) Cruise at 75mph , AC while driving, lots of room for an edit station or two. Na, but for real, glad you guys are doing what you want and not falling into the sunk cost fallacy .

[@ronaldsnider8078]

You can add a turbo on your engine to make it faster, also.

[@elenitourlotoudesousabrito8971]

Its your life. Thanks for sharing.

[@fluffypuppy720]

You should perhaps get a camper trailer to tow behind the van, and a large tent That can be set up and torn down easily depending on your need for outdoor space during inclement weather

[@deborahhenderson7321]

Looking forward to even more fantastic pics/videos/content with the new wheels.

[@lovek2us]

And 4x4 drive ability. Go where you haven't been able to go. I understand. I can't wait to see the new home you will build.

[@DNTtreadONus]

Looking forward to the new build!!

[@cayenneprepper9065]

My Condolences.......

[@heathbolin7340]

Enjoy your videos and look forward to seeing the new build. If you come through Pueblo, CO you will have a driveway to stay at. 😀

[@tWz4462]

I'm so sad 😭😭😭 to hear . But I do totally understand.

[@jerrybrooks870]

I honestly think that you're going to find that the sprinter van isn't do any better than 55 or 60 once you get it converted. You're probably going to be doubling it's weight by the time you finish the conversion, and I don't think that ecobust v-6 is going to be able to pull it as fast as you think down the highway and up steep grades. I realize that you want to get away from a diesel engine, but I think you find that you're better off with a super duty, if it is available. They have proven power and durability, plus they can be serviced pretty much anywhere. The eco-bust will last you maybe 5 years then start falling apart, then you'll have to make the decision is it worth putting a new engine in it or is the body too ragged out. Newer is not always better. The newer the vehicle the more flimsy built and disposable it is. This applies to all brands. Another thing you will find is that the sprinter van isn't going to handle very well in windy conditions. I think you would find that a short bus from the late 90's to the early 2000's with a super duty and Allison transmission would be much more suited to what you want to do. It will handle better, be just as easy to park, and be sturdier built than a sprinter van. Age is not what you need to worry about. Buses are built to be durable and long lasting. What you do need to be concerned about is how many miles are on the odometer and how well it was maintained. As far as the speed issue is concerned, they're governed to not go any faster than 55 mph, you can get around that by adjusting the governor. Anyway, please understand that I am not trying to tell you what to do but merely offering advice based on my own experiences and observations. I of course respect your need to make your own decisions on what is best y'all, and I wish y'all the best in this new chapter in your life.

[@KeriKalmbach]

Um... the governer is set to 85 in my 170wb Sprinter. I routinely get it that high, even with a full build-out, full tanks, etc. This van is a beast.

[@andreawisner7358]

Reading between the lines, although barely stated, running and maintaining the bus as well as a separate car is super-expensive. FWIW, I knew that bus + car was not going to be sustainable. They could have chosen to put a 150-200 cc scooter on the back and that might have been better. Maybe they can do that with the van. The van will heat up a lot faster in the sun than the bus would. When you go into a grocery store or leave the dogs in the van for even longer you're going to need to leave all the windows open and the fan on. Even better would be to have an AC system separate from the engine. But that's going to take a ton of solar. Don't be surprised if people break your windows out if you leave the dogs inside even for just a few minutes. As to the diesel problem - you can get a small shuttle bus built on a Ford or Chevy gasoline van body. That's a little more spacious than a van, and some fit into a parking space. And you can get one just a few years old, not 20. Congratulations.

[@twopeasinapodus]

Great Live chat. Awesome video.

[@chasingtinydreams6906]

Ill be at work 😣 but ill be sure to watch on Monday...bus or van Im sure that most that follow you, started because of the bus, but we continue because of you two...we shall keep watching and following no matter how you decide to get from point A to point B

[@davidmarquess5269]

Good luck on the new adventure ✌️

[@teresawatkins4828]

I'm happy for you both

[@jaegabbard71]

I'd recommend a trial .Block off the square footage you will have in the van and live in that square footage in the bus. Kinda a improv temp

[@sefianijawad]

It must be so hard to juggle between upselling your bus for potential buyers and not lose followers transitioning to a van. KZbin money doesn’t come easy i guess :)

[@murdermurderjesus666]

Business is booming in Texas hint hint

[@SolHersh]

I have a 04 mt45 freightliner stepvan made by Morgan olson previoiusly a usps vehicle and they are bidding them off in many states. I have a 4.3 4cyl diesel mercedes engine stronger then the mercedes engine in the sprinter coupled to a great 5 speed allison.. goes 75mph + body is aluminium and doesnt rust you can stand up move, great lil rig can be gotten for about 7k with low miles better than my skooile, look into them at govdeals

[@truegrit8280]

New sub,,u look like a couple that would like to homestead eventually .. Buy land build a cabin and have a garden and live off the land . Land in certain areas are still reasonable .

[@theorbshuttle8117]

The thing is your bus build is sooooo dope. Best customization style. Looking forward to seeing the new van build. I may have missed it in past videos but what WiFi booster have you used? Also cell booster? If there is a link to videos where you discuss it that’d be super helpful. Best of luck!

[@ashleymarks6144]

LOVE countdowns. 😎👍🏼

[@jkpinpdx]

Hey TIFF.... Get rolling on your NEW Logo! 👍🏽

[@bigal33usmc37]

Some would say, you could rely more on a 20 y/o diesel than a 2020 computer dependent motor.

[@TheSbaty]

My husband and I just bought our bus and are starting are build and we were worried about having enough water for showers and I found a couple people that have a recirculating shower. It filters the water so you can reuse it for a week or so. Just a thought.

[@cnavanlife3513]

41 if y'all drop them you wouldn't true friends or family or fans of this for 2 go to haters for 3 I can't wait to see the coming future hopefully that will help my husband I'm building this van

[@mrgajeep]

Don't get rid of that little music clip you play at beginning and end ... sounds like Tif's voice but may not be. It coool!

[@Rolling_Vistas]

Thanks! It is actually Madilyn Mei singing :)

[@noworriesmate8287]

I’m 58 been married 38 years but my wife hasn’t traded me in yet. You noticed I said YET! Tiffany sounds like my wife. Get 20 miles near a big town she pulls off and says ok it’s your turn.

[@Rolling_Vistas]

😂💯

[@akshaypendyala]

I am seeing that many people who had at least lived on SKOOLIE for two years on an average are moving towards van life! Why is this so?

[@livinglife8333]

Have you decided on a price for the bus?

[@LifeUnafraid]

transits are super narrow! no chance of saving space by having your bed width-wise unless you want to sleep in the fetal position :P the only reason I'm not considering one. BLESSINGS you know whats best for you

[@helenholt1161]

That's what flares are for😁