Seneca Aspen/Nova Freedom Pump Issue Repair

[@parkytheboy4076]

Thank you so much for doing this video! This is the only video on KZbin that I have been able to find on repairing this rifle . I have tried a couple times to repair mine without much success. Now I am back in business. Thank you again

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

No problem man! Thanks for the kind words. I couldn't find any either and the forums give you enough information to stumble through it but it is definitely confusing! Lol That's why I made this video. I figured there are tons of these guns here in the states so somebody should do a video about it. Glad you found it useful 👍 Thanks for watching. I do appreciate it!

[@AnoNymous-p5y9v]

Thank you for this. The most useful Seneca Aspen/Nova Freedom video on youtube and the only one showing some disassembly. I can only say that my Nova Freedom pump (it was oiled every time) broke after a few hundred shots. I was going to try to repair it, but given how complicated fixing the pump is I will sell it very cheaply instead. Seneca Aspen/Nova Freedom is a big POS.

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Thanks for the compliment. I appreciate it! Unfortunately, you are correct about these rifles. They are guaranteed to fail. After fixing mine for the third time, I gave up on it. It is too bad to because they are really accurate.

[@jimmyhitt1939]

Thanks for the video I couldn't find any other info on how this system works

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

No problem. I am glad you found it useful.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

You Did It !! Fantastic!! May the wind always cease when you look thru your sights. May the whitetail take up residence in your backyard on opening day. May the Bird of Paradise fly...

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Thanks man!

[@ahmondeboxley2950]

Nice video big j you are a hero to airgunner that believe in this rifle and don't wanna give up on the concept of being free from all the extra accessories needed for pcp now offer any services for repairs

[@dogmumblerairgunner3620]

Brother, like I always say, you are the MAN! This video will definitely help lots of folks. 😁

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Thanks brotha!

[@billreynolds2766]

Thanks for your videos. Seems that all of these Aspens have this problem... Thanks again for the help.

[@loloswoodcraft]

Thanks for the video. This was the only one I could find. I have a newer model that had a brass fitting in the tube. Can't see how to get that out. The rod on the end just spins.

[@bjjblackbelttodd]

So... First, great video. It helped me get everything apart by about 98%. However, the last bit where you simply screw the tube away from the center rod did not work on mine. I got stuck right where you say "yours may not come apart like that". No. mine does not. It looks like you need s specialized tool to reach just slightly inside that metal tube to grip what looks like a brass nut. Once I figure that out I'm hoping the rest will be as you say and I can just replace the single ring with two 0-006 o-rings. Any idea where I can get that specialized tool? If not I'll have to make or rig something, not sure on that yet.

[@hebrewhomesteadupdatewalee8303]

I have the same problem 😕

[@southernrrman]

I'm late to the party. I used a pin spanner from by bicycle repair days. Park Tool SPA-1 or similar. No mods needed.

[@peterpumpkineater301]

Great and informative video, thanks! Perhaps you could do a video on overhauling and general maintenance for PCP hand pumps, that would be much appreciated. Thanks again!

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Thanks for the compliment! I just might do that. One of my hand pumps needs rebuilt anyway. Hmmmm....🤔

[@Acutus3399]

This is an awesome idea!!

[@josephstewart2439]

Thanks for the information, great content. I was ready to purchase mine this month hoping they had worked out those issues by now. I will email you to request the manual just in case I decide to take a chance because I really like the idea of a PCP gun with that pumping system.

[@joegonzalez6346]

That’s superb. Much appreciated. Do you have PayPal? Send info.

[@joegonzalez6346]

Sorry. Wrong person

[@justincifreo4909]

Any idea what threads are on the black pump adapter and what size the rubber check valve seats are? Trying to either rebuild or convert to regulated bottle.

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Hey Justin, sorry for the late response. I do not know but that is on my list because I will be doing the same thing. If you have figured it out please let me know. Thanks

[@Thaib0xer69]

Just Subscribed to your channel. Excellent Tutorial!!!! I have both the .25 Seneca Aspen and a .22 Nova Freedom. Your instruction is Invaluable!!!!

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Wow Alexander thanks for the compliment! I try to be thorough with my videos. And thanks for subbing. I do appreciate it!

[@andre593sabine]

Thanks also from the Netherlands for this great video. I will shoot you an Email for the manual. Thanks in advance!

[@joegonzalez6346]

Great video. I would really like a copy of the assembly instructions (spec sheets). I will email you. I contacted American Tactical today and they told me that they don’t have anything at all for airguns any longer. Air Guns of Arizona told me that they no longer carry the gun or parts and to call American Tactical. My gun is the Seneca version (Aspen) and never was able to fill with a probe. Now it will barely fill with integrated hand pump as there is back pressure even on the upstroke. I actually broke the handle off today attempting to pump up pressure. Don’t know where to get a handle for it. Thanks for your help as I plan to take it apart.

[@mr1234tempo]

Big J, I have a .25 Seneca Apen also, I am having problems with the hand pump, I frankly don't have the tools and knowledge and when I attempt the unknown I end up breaking other stuff...Are you interested in doing the overhaul on my gun? I'll cover the shipping your fee and parts, let me know, thanks...John I got the plans you mentioned and started to take the gun apart...then someone said try lubricating the pump so I did...and BUDDA BOOM problem solved...but learned a lot about the gun.

[@jimstewart5008]

Awesome I have been looking at them and had heard they have had problems, doesn't look to be to complicated, thanks for the video

[@marknewmeyer7200]

I have a problem with my Aspen not holding air ... it wants to leak out ... can you tell me what might be wrong ?

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

I responded to your email Mark. Hope it is useful.

[@jowpaw1643]

Hi there. Mine is also air leaking by the air tube. Is it the same o-rings that must change ??

[@abditusnuntius2105]

Just used your Benjamin Prowler nitro piston video to replace mine! Thank you so much for that video! I also have the Nova Freedom .22. I've taken it apart a few times and have multiple oring harnesses and materials. I even got a flat oring similar to stock. I've been trying to locate the correct size of the bolt probe oring or the oring delete tubing. Do you know what size that oring or delete tube needs to be ?

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Hey there, glad you found the video useful! It's really not to bad of a job. Unfortunately I do not know those sizes. I will try to find out what I can and if you find anything out let me know man!

[@abditusnuntius2105]

@@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007 just found my 006 orings. Throw those HF vitons away! They will fail very quickly. I did that same thing and they ripped apart. Look up model SV75006 on the The O-ring Store LLC for 75 durometer square orings or Model V75006 for 75 durometer viton orings. I would give the urethane ones a try as urethane is the best for sliding on my 1322 flat top piston with -111 orings. Hope this helps. Also, if you find you are cutting orings send the gun back. Mine had a rough spot in the final stage tube that kept cutting/ rubbing the seal apart. There is nothing that can fix that. My replacement is lasting well on the original seal. I use Super Lube 100 cSt only. Every 40 shots I put a few drops in the hole with the lever all the way opened. I'm shooting cleaned and silicone oil lubed walmart CPHP 14.5gr 1/2" at times at 40 yds when the wind will cooperate. Also, get two 5mmx0.8mmx12mm Allen cone point set screws for the trigger job. Use loctite. You will be amazed at what the trigger really feels like after you do this. Use the old screw in the front to take all the take up out of the trigger. It is amazing 1/2" lb 2 stage or 1 stage trigger all day long.

[@abditusnuntius2105]

www.amazon.com/dp/B07FLP42TP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_B3WNW0X2CRKE4BN4AA17 Oring delete I think

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

@@abditusnuntius2105 Ah ha! That is awesome 👌 Thanks for sniffing that out. I think that will work also. I just need to do some measuring

[@abditusnuntius2105]

@@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007likely 4 -5 mm. Also, updated my pellet lube to 25:1 gasoline to synthetic 2 stroke oil. Cleans and lubricates in the same step.

[@reedphelps4349]

What kind of lubricant do you use on the o rings?

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

I use silicone oil. I buy rc car shock oil. It is pure silicone and is way cheaper than RWS Chamber oil.

[@hermanguzman1460]

Hey Big j I came across your video while looking for a solution to the problem I have with my Nova freedom hp-m900, the rifle works great but I'm not able to charge it up using a foot pump and the filler probe, the hand pump works fine and I can charge it up that way, I was wondering if you had any idea what's keeping the foot pump from changing it.

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

@hermanguzman1460 Hello 👋 Is it a high pressure foot pump? 🤔 I haven't seen one of those before. If so, I am not sure what would be causing that issue.

[@hermanguzman1460]

@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007 yes it's a high pressure foot pump and I've used it before to charge it up but now it just won't hold the air, I tested the pump and it holds the air without any leaks, when it's hooked up to the rifle you can hear the air coming out.

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

@hermanguzman1460 Ah! Try cocking the rifle and then start to pump. If it is empty the hammer spring might be holding the valve open a little.

[@hermanguzman1460]

@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007 thank you I heard the same thing from another site just haven't tried it.

[@rick31869]

the hollow end of butt stock can be used to store all type of things .im gonna put all tools needed to repair it in the field in a emergency .i think this is one of an awesome survival air rifle . put ammo ,silicone oil ,orings ,etc, in there also . i have had this nova freedom over 3 yrs ,no probs with pump because i use plenty silicone oil before and after a shooting session ,keep it filled with 1000 to 1500 psi of air at all times to keep stuff out , and once in a while ill pump to max and completely bleed it ,you should see the much that comes out of it ,it looks like residue from orings and silicone oil .i also pump it up after each 10 shots to avoid creating too much heat from pumping to empty back to my sweet spot of 3200 psi !!!!!!! . just recently ,i must have had a bad slug ,tried to push in with too much force and my handle to probe cocking / pushing arm bent than finally broke in 2 . i am thinking ,i will make a newer one out of something soon , something a little stronger than was in it . now on the subject of the orings ,i will do some research to see what type would be best for it ,apparently the ones from factory arent the best ,because this happens to a lot of people .i think the right oring and the use of pure 100% silicone oil would make this air rifle a lot better . i also use plumbers and electrical silicone grease all over the rifle also . any input on the pellet pusher/cocker arm i greatly appreciated !!!! thank you for your awesome info bro .

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

I just saw these comments because you tube keeps me from seeing them for some reason. They are only showing up in my yt studio which I don't check comments over here on a regular basis. I apologize for the late responses.

[@AffordableAirguns]

Great video brother. I’m gonna share this video on my video comment section.

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Thanks for the compliment brotha. And share away my friend. Hopefully it will be useful to some folks.

[@MrPrice989]

Have you ever thought about putting a regulator on the Seneca Aspen

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

I have but never really got into it. I know there is some info on GTA about it.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

Disadvantage is, add a good scope and a little light, and the gun will weigh 10 pounds. I went to extremes and got one of mine down to 7.1 pounds tho, without a light. Pumping it every 5 or so shots is a regulator, but sends all the game into the next county. Mine shoots really flat to 40 -50 y, for 10 shots, starting at 3,000 psi.

[@personal.YouTube.channel]

Yes I have a couple question ? When you were telling us about the tool that you use to do this. You mentioned the 3 mm for the air bleeder ( to relieve the air pressure ) But the other Allen wrenches. YOU NEVER TOLD US WHAT SIZE THEY WERE ? I am a BUSHCRAFTer / Prepper. I have one of these guns for small game hunting. I've been able to take a hog up-to about knee high. ( BIG GAME ) With a shot between the eyes when head is down or in the ear. With in about 30 yards. I'm looking at putting together a repair kit. For this gun. Keeping it all in the hollow park of the buttstock. So it something happened I can do a CAREFUL in field repairs to the air gun. With extra little clips o-rings lubricant everything need to fix it. Should something happen. I want to try to keep it light. So knowing the sizes of the Pacific wrench is needed will HELP. CARRYING JUST WHAT IT NEED !

[@andrewbutler7724]

Great Video! Thanks for doing this, as more people than you would expect will benefit.

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Thanks! I appreciate the compliment.

[@murrelamerson]

Could I get a copy of the blueprints for the gun

[@garyritterstrings]

Wonder if you can flush it out with Kerosene or something?

[@rick31869]

do you think a piece of fuel line would work instead of 2 -006 orings ?

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Yes. I have heard of people using it instead of the orings. I hadn't heard of it before making this video so if you do it let me know how it works for you if you don't mind.

[@rick31869]

@@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007 I DIDNT USE IT YET ,BUT THINK ABOUT HOW THE BLACK FUEL LINE ,OH OH CAN I SAY BLACK ? LOL , IS MADE OF A PETRO REPELLING RUBBER MATERIAL AND IS REINFORCED WITH SOME TYPE OF NYLON OR FIBERGLASS , POLYESTER?. IF GASOLINE DOESNT DESTROY IT ,I ASK YOU WHY WOULDNT IT WORK ? SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT ,ITS ONE OF THE MANY INVENTIONS OR WAYS I SOLELY CAME UP WITH . I SEE IT USED FOR A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE . I ALSO WENT AND EMAILED YOU TO GET THAT AWESOME PARTS MANUAL FOR THE NOVA FREEDOM ,WHAT AN TRULY AWESOME SERVICE AND CHANNEL YOU OFFER MY BROTHER , THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US IN THE AIRGUN WORLD AND COMMUNITY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART . I CALL THIS THICK ORING MOD ,RGAGN ORING ! LOL ....

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

@@rick31869 Hahaha! Good stuff man! Yeah I think you are right about the fuel line too. And thanks for the compliments brotha. I do appreciate it.

[@rick31869]

@@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007 you deserve man ,you got an awesome channel !!! glad to be a sub of yours !

[@rick31869]

is it possible to turn up the regulator on this to get another 100 or 200 or 300 fps out of it ? . is there a plenum on it like its cousins ,same rifle without the on board pump !

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Yes it is essentially the same gun. The only way I know about to get more power is to start opening the valve and transfer port, those types of things. I have heard that the poppet seat is made of a fairly soft material that doesn't take kindly to the power being wicked up. There are guys on GTA who talk about this and how to make a better one.

[@rick31869]

@@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007 wow ! thats a big start my friend .. there is a guy that i seen air velocity sport talk about named duy , he pronounces it dewy . i agree , stiffer hammer spring , open the valve and transfer port and modify the poppet , get duy to manufacture one , ill at least maybe break sound barrier so when i use the heavier pellets and slugs , it will help tremendously . BIG J , im thinking of getting the .22 origin because of the upgraded piece in air tank that keeps the pressure at better `compression in the tank .plus it comes with an air pump also !!! just think my brother how awesome it would be if the reinforced fuel line makes a good seal oring type . keep up the grat work my friend , thank you for all you do for us !!! oh ,i want to turn you on to something i invented decades ago ,its my special devastator round , take a .22 pellet , put a .177 steel bb in the back of the pellet and barely add a very small drop of super glue on top , usually if you push the bb in ,it goes in tight . it will add 5 grains to the pellet making it a little heavier ,slower but more power when it hits . try this and see how it deforms when it hits the target !

[@thepenitentcop1033]

The day I go to play with mine and I hear I have an air leak!! It could be the bleed valve. I'll try that first

[@davidhernandez-sq1yi]

where can i find the O rings?

[@Acutus3399]

Pretty cool stuff!! I think this pump is a little easier than my FX's but seems like a fairly good design. Hell for a $350 gun you never run outta air!

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Thanks for the compliment brotha! Oh I am sure the Indy pump is more sophisticated than this one. The price point is pretty awesome at 350. 👌 I think I have around 120 bucks in it so I am pretty happy with it!

[@thegiantswordworkout]

The way this is designed could it in any way be shortened to 36.5 inches. Can the barrel be taken down! I'd really love to. See a bullpup version. I want to fit one into my 100 liter survival rucksack!

[@nonya1940]

Barrel shroud is about 6" longer than the actual barrel

[@melanieanderson5088]

Would like a copy of breakdown on aspen please Thanks Roger

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Hey Roger, shoot me an email at [e-mail] and I can send you the file.

[@GABTZO]

hi guys. I have problems with the valve on my Seneca Aspen, the valve and the valve body as well as the pump, does anyone know where I can buy these parts? 

[@murrelamerson]

I am having trouble with my nova freedom.could I pay you to fix mine

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Hi Murrel, unfortunately due to my work schedule I just don't have time to work on stuff right now.

[@rick31869]

wow awesome info bro ,i just subbed ! thank you !!!!

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Sorry I just saw this comment. Thank you for subbing. I do appreciate it!

[@Patrick-xl3sb]

Can you just take the pump arm off of the gun and just run it as a PCP with the fill probe ??

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Yes you should be able to.

[@thebackyardairgunner8776]

I almost bought one of the aspen's when they first came out, but then started reading reviews from people having pump issues. guessing it was prolly just the Oring in most of their probs i'm guessing

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Hey man! Yes this oring seems to be the main issue. The valve poppet seems to have leaking issues due to soft material and guys turning the power up past the factory max causing damage. A former retailer of these guns told me 7 out of 10 sold came back for warranty exchanges which caused them to stop selling airguns altogether. Was costing them money! I'll shut me mouth now! 😆 Talk to you later brotha

[@ahmondeboxley2950]

Do you offer any services for freedom/aspen nice video

[@SCOTTBULGRIN]

Excellent video. Thank You.

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

No problem. Thanks for the compliment and watching the video. I do appreciate it!

[@thepenitentcop1033]

Do you do repair work? Can I send you my Seneca for repair?

[@hectormanuelmh]

Excellent video bro I need something like this, btw wich gun is that in the box? looks like an M4 but not sure if an airsoft replic or pellets gun, thank you and very nice work

[@marknewmeyer7200]

Thanks for making this !!!

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

No problem man!

[@exmcairgunner]

I had this airgun and had to return it over the pump being shit. 👍

[@abelflores3752]

Did you go to school to learn how to repair guns, I'm retired and would like to learn how to gun smith

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

I didn't. I am mechanically inclined and I just do as my research as I can and then go for it. Lol I would like to take Gun Smith courses myself sometime.

[@wilfredharrison7563]

Can you send me those fills for the aspen nova freedom

[@wilfredharrison7563]

My air is leaking out by the hand pump

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Hey there, please email me at [e-mail] From there I can send you the files

[@fcvangool]

How can I get that zip file, please?

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Hey there, just email me at [e-mail] and I can send you a zip file.

[@americanbeautygardencenter5322]

Thanks man!

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

No problem!

[@FirstStateAirgun]

I love you brother how you going to comment on your own video that it sucks

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

Hahaha! Glad you caught that! I thought it was pretty funny my own self! 😆

[@tariel66]

What kind of company would produce a a complicated and often unreliable air rifle such as this and then not provide parts. I contacted them just recently for parts and that had none and don't even know if or when they will have any. Now I am stuck with a $300 + useless gun. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@bigjsoutdoorsairguns9007]

I agree 100% with you. And they sell them knowing they are guaranteed to fail. Pretty pathetic. I spoke with someone that works for a company that used to sell them and he said 7 out of 10 came back defective and that is why the quit selling them. It's to bad because they are very accurate and the concept is great.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

If your problem is the pump, the Aspen can be filled using a compressor or one of the available aftermarket hand pumps. Plus, any gun part can be made or fixed.

[@bretfaulkner]

cool.God bless.