Testing Decades of Self Defense

[@lazyman7505]

Seth, nothing against your solo videos, I enjoy them very much, but these collabs are entirely different league. Absolutely marvelous. I wish you could turn it into something regular, even just like this, just bunch of awesome guys goofing around.

[@SenseiSeth]

I totally agree 👍

[@corychartier7961]

It's like that Grand Tour gang of martial arts

[@theoteddy9665]

​​@@SenseiSethis new selfdefence championship in making?😉

[@gnos1s171]

​@@SenseiSethDude you should absolutely check out defendu/fairbairn gutter fighting, it is still around today, and it's a really interesting style of combatives that was developed by William fairbairn a pretty well accomplished police officer in hong kong I believe for the british military and used by them in world war 2, he practiced judo, japanese jujutsu, boxing and I believe chinese kung fu and created an art for the british military that mixed elements from all of these arts that worked pretty well for these soldiers from what I can tell, it was military combatives so it was meant to help give them some adequate fighting skills in the span of a few weeks

[@abcdefgcdefg5178]

Mike just beating Seth with a magazine at the end made the whole video 😂

[@hard2hurt]

Dang Sweet T is crazy good at the aerobics self defense.

[@SenseiSeth]

Right? I bet he’s wearing the spandex underneath. Like a superhero, but for 80s dance

[@nicksankar2569]

Bro mike you could do comedy u always got me laughing

[@lastsamurai1089]

It made me feel kinda funny, like when we used to climb the rope in gym class...

[@SweetSpotGuitar]

@@lastsamurai1089 NOT

[@DaTimmeh]

Mike's Cat/Racoon demonstration and sweet T popping off on aerobics are pure gold. And the Seth getting beat up by Mike with a Magazine, truly the cherry on top.

[@chancepaladin]

cats, raccoons, bears, they all can slide inside their skin. we can't. its also why gorillas would lose more often than not against bears and tigers.

[@89334726]

Yeah, that magazine kinda popped the cherry....

[@JD2jr.]

@@chancepaladin Sounds like someone who hasn't done no gi. lol

[@T.Rex33]

As an adult female that has taken martial arts classes for 10 years, Wonderboy makes an excellent point, you must train self-defense in order for it to work.

[@theaikidoka]

It's also a great idea (if you can) to take a class with another group, to see if your practices work on people who aren't familiar with them. If they don't, that might be a warning sign.

[@JD2jr.]

@@theaikidoka Nothing quite like going to an open mat and your go-to just... not working anymore. lol But also, sometimes you go and that thing you've been trying to get good at but just can't seem to hit or always feels forced just works over and over because you're not going with the same people you have been learning it with.

[@Ullish1989]

1000% true. I like how Seth said at a certain point this stopped being about having to train and practice defending yourself and turned into a magic answer you need to learn for an attack.

[@collinnicolazzo2065]

@T.Rex33 that and when it comes to female self defense classes I once asked one of my instructors about it and he said if women don't sparr against men they might not be able to fight against men when and if the moment arises

[@michaelm9710]

@@collinnicolazzo2065I agree with your coach. I’d go so far as to say that female self defense classes are almost always a con. It’s totally fine if a gym offers female only classes.

[@jasonmcewen436]

Mike trying to get ahold of Seth's leg...😂😂😂

[@biohazard724]

All Wonderboy "crimes" come with a handwritten apology and he buys you a beer afterwards

[@Ullish1989]

Even beer seems too much for Wonderboy...I think it's more of an Ice Cream😅

[@SRLeonido]

The classical music and montage of Seth getting beat was hilarious! 🤣

[@jofixme5340]

i need to see a comedy crime action movie with these four ... just the way mike was trying to grab seths leg from the bear hug was gold

[@boohoo6326]

YES OMG i second this

[@daltonsasse5754]

At 12:40 when mike is talking about the racoon or cat attacking you his impression killed me 😂

[@jeremyshelton2306]

Best line ever, "I'm looking gooch, taint, phrenem....."

[@999jay999]

Every day is a school day...

[@Ducks4President]

I was dying. 😂

[@ChurchWorshipandvideo]

Laughed so hard when he started rattling of these 😂

[@danielwesley5051]

And then at 17:50 Seth says the most sus line ever.

[@wahoo31151]

5:30 least convincing " whenever i do my crime" ever.

[@seranonable]

15:10 the chance to whack Seth with a rolled up magazine is what gets Icy Mike out of bed in the morning.

[@85481]

I don't appreciate how Wonderboy looks like my PhD supervisor but could kick my ass at will.

[@user-dd6on5cr3u]

Wonderboy giving his challengers ear-twisters is something I never knew I needed in my life.

[@JeremyConners]

Fuckin hm? Why’d ya like that so much, hmm?

[@Koroeatspotates]

​@@JeremyConnersbro whats your deal bro just saying sometging go back to your goon cave

[@AcceleratingUniverse]

I've seen a lot of people "debunk" the magazine. Icy Mike is the only youtuber I've seen who has the warrior soul needed to actually roll up the magazine under pressure and make it work as a weapon

[@Jezza_C_WT]

"is KZbin just the new Library of Alexandria?" Wow... I've never thought about it like that, but it kind of is. 🤯

[@BraydenTerpening]

Yeah, because without the Internet KZbin, will fall the same too. Only oral tradition to keep the memory alive

[@Chuschannel]

Yeah but with a ton of crap books or videos like 95% in this example mixed in with the good stuff. Typical library might have like 50% crap.

[@writingonthewall3326]

More like the world's cubical wall... But similar I guess

[@ziwi01]

I remember Ramsey Dewey tried the aerobics butt bump on a video years ago and was flabbergasted that it actually worked. Every single time he tried it.

[@caalmodeoc]

it's also the starting move of a huge lot of forms in TMAs

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

I was thinking about that in this. And these guys had the same conclusion. Butt bumps apparently work.

[@lorgin2003]

@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 It's because no matter how big the guy is, they're going to respect an attack to their groin. I've seen a grizzly bear get leveled from a nut shot. Even if it doesn't connected, the guy's still hopping back. From there, it significantly weakens their hold, and puts them off balance.

[@AlanAmick]

In today's vocabulary it's known as the Thrust of Freedom per Master Ken.

[@Demonstormlord]

It looks dumb, but it makes sense. The largest and most powerful muscles of the body are in the legs, the hip is a huge chunk of dense bone, a hip check is going to make you move.

[@seanbucklar7527]

As a child of the 80s - sweet T has the body motion freaking perfect for those aerobics classes. I remember waiting for those shows to finish every morning before cartoons would start.

[@ramudon2428]

I bet you finished.

[@gmkgoat]

When I woke up this morning I didn't expect to see Seth getting violated by a magazine.

[@NathanMladenik]

Wonderboy: But can a small girl do that to you? Icy Mike: Luckily. . . 💀💀💀💀

[@jbhowell]

My wife kept asking me what I was watching because I kept bursting into laughter! Stephen and Sweet T in their aerobic outfits, and Icy Mike prison loving Seth...omg! Hilarious!

[@TheDmane88]

I remember I came upon your channel trying to learn “KZbin karate” after I got beat up at the bank and after paying for real Kenpo and boxing classes I still watch yours because now I’m just all in lol

[@christophernewton8474]

The shoulder throw as a defense from standing rear naked choke is a real Judo technique (first time I did it successfully I was 10) but there are some caveats, such as: the person choking you needs some forward momentum (like if you are both struggling), and once it is sunk it is sunk, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

[@Northeimer]

This the most fun, chaotic collabs yet. I think this is my new most favorite video on KZbin

[@icemanespoo2977]

Mike makes a great Rainman ”you can’t have this chair, this is my chair” moment.

[@austinfontenot8955]

Most underrated part of this video is when Stephen is standing with his back to Mike while he has the magazine and is talking about going after him with it. Stephen immediately turns around. That's years of training on display.

[@Machina03exe]

"I might be giving too much arch." No such thing, continue to serve.

[@christopherpadilla715]

You know it’s a good day when Sensei Seth drops a new video!!

[@quandaviousdangle4386]

Seth with a banger on my birthday🔥

[@JohnMalcolm-j5l]

Happy birthday

[@SenseiSeth]

Happy birthday!

[@gnos1s171]

​@@SenseiSethDude you should absolutely check out defendu/fairbairn gutter fighting, it is still around today, and it's a really interesting style of combatives that was developed by William fairbairn a pretty well accomplished police officer in hong kong I believe for the british military and used by them in world war 2, he practiced judo, japanese jujutsu, boxing and I believe chinese kung fu and created an art for the british military that mixed elements from all of these arts that worked pretty well for these soldiers from what I can tell, it was military combatives so it was meant to help give them some adequate fighting skills in the span of a few weeks

[@johngault7329]

Happy birthday

[@bofaybaykweh]

the slow motion LMFAO, nice touch. i hope seth's rear is feeling okay...xD

[@OveToranger]

10:20 Okay...I laughed out loud there...excellent copy/technique guys !

[@b0ned0me]

“The Thirties: A GREAT time to be attacked! “ Don’t know why but I chuckled for several minutes at that.

[@b0ned0me]

Oh dear god I got to the magazine. I cried with laughter.

[@raccoonmyroom6861]

This is a great group to review self defense techniques with. Mike's summary of how to train at the end was really concise and thought provoking.

[@muaythaigoof]

The Master Ken thrust of freedom got broken out

[@OneShotStop229]

Icy Mike busting out the classic baton choke with that magazine. The ancient cop move. Top Tier!

[@nunyabidness3429]

Every cut to Sweet T dancing just makes me burst out laughing.

[@writingonthewall3326]

😂😂😂 Dude! Your face when Mike gave you the business up the hoy-hoy!!?? Man, I'm dying over here 😂😂😂

[@AKAMMArduk]

Seth lying there in pain watching how IcyMike just kept going was hilarious😂 @15:59

[@Carnerd101]

It was years before I realized Sweet T and Seth were different people.

[@samuraiartguy]

The best SD advice I ever got was “Act tactically, think Strategically.” Drunk uncle Norman is a different problem than getting mugged by a whacked out mook high on PCP. That was a lot of fun to watch and a lot pf good practical commentary. And too true, for competence, nothing beats training.

[@FIyingPengwin]

Your guys' collabs is honestly one of the best things on youtube.

[@camiloiribarren1450]

Always love these collaborations with these awesome friends to test out what works out best. Very nicely done, boys

[@theoteddy9665]

10:20 whaaaaaaat I am looking at??😂😂😂

[@bluedogguy]

I enjoyed this quite a bit. Sweet T is just a joy to watch. The interjects something every video.

[@crispybacon9917]

Fighting is essentially problem solving. It's all well and good giving a specific solution to a specific scenario but every situation is different so fighting is really learning to adapt on the fly to that situation and think "what's the best thing I can do in this situation"

[@highrollreviews4260]

Sweet T: Master of Jazzercize Bunkai.

[@silversurferguy6319]

You should do a deep dive into WW2 combatives from some of the late Carl Cestari’s students, that is some serious self defense and brutal or do a video on modern version of WW 2 combatives from Kelly McCann.

[@gmork1090]

That ending sequence was just... everything.

[@hardydownunder]

I loved the oil check with the magazine 😂

[@marcbergeron1750]

I wonder if you guys would consider testing out (in a friendly way of course) some of the techniques of the old military manuals , like for example Killed or Get Killed (by Applegate) , Cold Steel (by Styers) , Get Tough (by Fairbairn), etc. I'd like to see these tactics checked against live resistance like you just did with those older self-defense films. Enjoyed this video BTW.

[@just_a_guy_on_yt3853]

I second this!

[@joeysingingchannel]

This was so funny and fun to watch. I would love a sequel video on the topic.

[@strengthandfist1294]

Icy Mike with the magazine was hilarious.

[@MartialArtUK]

This is the thing modern people forget about the older generations, they did the best they could with what they had, no videos watch did kata and forms to remember but now we have everything in the world on KZbin sometimes makes us less humble.

[@Marveryn]

i think the 30's had the most legit technique but they were done to a beginner class that may not retain the right knowledge. Like the mention a lot of their stuff is judo that still being taught today.

[@NestorLedon]

Sweet T getting too much arch 😂😂😂

[@sorewahimitsudesu]

I see Icy Mike has recreated the Dog Brothers' famous "stinky stick" technique, pioneered by Crafty Dog!

[@BMO_Creative]

LOL... Sweet Tea Twerkin between Delf Defense moves is hilarious!!

[@archangel98632]

OK, bear with me as I mashup a bit of philosophy and cognitive science into my praise: IMO sometimes in our quest for "effective" we over-emphasize the "martial" at expense of the "art." Art endures because it touches something deeper within us than physical... Like laughter! And those things we remember and find joy in, we can also embody more effectively. And I think everyone here demonstrates finding that optimal cognitive space between being embedded within a context, embodied in practice, enacted practically, with the best extended cognition as they learn from each other... AND the past! Funny, impactful, and MUCH THANKS to all the participants!

[@gnos1s171]

Dude you should absolutely check out defendu/fairbairn gutter fighting, it is still around today, and it's a really interesting style of combatives that was developed by William fairbairn a pretty well accomplished police officer in hong kong I believe for the british military and used by them in world war 2, he practiced judo, japanese jujutsu, boxing and I believe chinese kung fu and created an art for the british military that mixed elements from all of these arts that worked pretty well for these soldiers from what I can tell, it was military combatives so it was meant to help give them some adequate fighting skills in the span of a few weeks

[@Raven-flight]

When icy Mike called it a Millwall brick I was in stitches. Brought back memories. And that's coming from a Chelsea fan 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 😆

[@OkiOak93]

The technique that turns the rotation of the attacker from their head to the ground defense is something I used to practice in To Shin Do, one of the arts studied by Hardee Merritt, who you did one of the Ninja videos with. One of the styles variations of defense involves first a clapping type strike with the defenders palms to attackers ears to rupture the eardrums, a headbutt ending with the turn seen in the video. Very cool!

[@Shadowslave604]

17:05 that magazine thing was shown to me by my dad lol back in the 80's. he also said to leave part of the magazine out the bottom of your hand about an inch or two for slamming it into the person as well. never to hold it at the bottom.

[@sieciobywatel]

Nice to see you guys having so much fun with Aikido!

[@untilvalhalla7854]

“Raccoon”… “looking for gooch”is maybe be the most terrifying thing I have ever seen. 🤣

[@tetanusteta3871]

8:05. The slap is gold 🤣

[@1gun136]

I loved that “Seth’s talking head in the corner” edit near the beginning of the video. Please do that more 😂

[@Charlie-jj1ou]

I hadn’t laughed this hard in a while. Thanks for that. Great video gents. Great tips as well

[@HeartlessKnave]

Need to take clips of this and turn it into an aerobics video, or a dance music video. 12:40 keeps making me chuckle.

[@djsuter4410]

last words. "...and then go train." Most excellent.

[@TheFaustianMan]

This was hilarious, educational, and very very well shot and edited!

[@sukmykrok3388]

Oh, you KNOW Sensei Seth cheeked that mag when his legs went stiff, haha!

[@SFE3610]

Watching seth get violated at the end in skow motion was hard and hilarious to watch at the same time 😂 poor guy lol

[@EvoluSiN]

You guys are absolutely correct, that just constantly training teraches you the skills shown (or any skill for that matter). But I wish I'd been there with you, because a lot of the techniques you showed are still teached in the german concept Ju-Jutsu and there were some technical errors in the application. But as you said, there is a difference between taking a class, watching a video and practicing something for many years under the guidance of a trainer.

[@Ducks4President]

This is one of the best videos I've seen you throw out there, man. Awesome.

[@Enno_MartialArts]

One of the best Seth videos 😄

[@cartwright1348]

This is the absolute dream team for martial arts on youtube

[@Rothgogh]

I really want to see a video with you dad and his reactions and thoughts on your exploration of martial arts. How has he seen it impact your karate? What has he seen that he has wanted to explore? Is there something in each martial art that he found to be common that he wouldn’t have thought about? Is there something in each martial art that is unique to it that makes him want to try it? Being so experienced in karate, is there another martial art he’s seen that he thinks in another lifetime he would have loved to pursue in the same way as he did karate? Is there a martial art he’s seen you try that he thinks you could be as proficient in as you are in karate? Etc lol. Love the videos!

[@jamescollins9811]

I feel like there’s a real market for Sweet T Aerobic Defense videos

[@HenrikBgelundLavstsen]

10:19 did you guys shoot this at the day or is that something silly wonderboys did in the past. Its hilarious though

[@jaimeflor4181]

These are still my favorite Sensei Seth videos!

[@newjerseycombathapkido7238]

We refer to that head technique as the Steering Wheel Take down and it is quite effective. The one aspect that they missed however is that in any bear hug situation you have to drop your center of gravity and push your ass back. This way you have a good base and can create power through rotation of the hips. If you notice in this video, during the bear hugs his back was arched, effectively weakening his base and lessening his power. He still made the technique work though. If the victim is smaller and weaker than the attacker he/she would have to correct that form in order for the technique to be effective! Just something to think about. Good video though!

[@turbomanmechachrist]

The video where she grabs hold of the guys leg is a Taekwondo self-defence technique. However, clip is quite short in the video to see, not sure if it's the proper one with followups etc. The usual followup is a kick to the head or body / stomp, and retreat or enter control position.

[@PedroF422]

“The 30’s was a great time to be attacked” hilarious

[@garethgriffiths5490]

You all should definitely review Bas Rutten's Self Defense video.

[@jpizzleforizzle]

I'm gonna keep requesting a video on the efficacy of a huge slim Jim (beef stick) as a self defense weapon.

[@alonsoallen]

This leg grab move was taught to me, the key is to do head and groin strikes first. And when sitting down when grabbing the leg, don't just use your back and arms, use your legs to create leverage. BTW, this is easier if the person being grabbed is shorter, and harder if they are taller like Seth.

[@tentoumushi-e789p]

You got that dog in you That Golden Retriever energy Great video!

[@devindodge8648]

Great video, guys.😂😂 fun and informative. Love it.

[@patchbeard]

I was dying from laughter when Mike was talking about frenums and shit lol

[@Swordsman_HEMMA]

The pass-through-the-legs you see @0:17 is legitimate. As goofy as it looks, it shows up in a lot of HEMA manuals, and I've pulled it off successfully multiple times during rolling in BJJ. Same story for the leg grab @7:43, so long as there isn't a drastic size or weight difference.

[@LUKESLYTALKER]

“..I’ve gotta drive home!” 😂🤣😆

[@jonatanpinadulucmusic]

I just seen self-defense aerobics kata. It´s like wax-on , wax-off...

[@toddellner5283]

As someone who was, for a few years, one of the best informed folks around on self defense outcomes, there are other things at play. And it's not just "She tried that in a controlled setting against a trained fighter and it didn't work." Self defense isn't just or even primarily about winning a game of knuckle tag. It is about not being the victim of a violent crime, and if you are coming out of it better than you would have otherwise. If you recognize a dangerous situation before there is a specific threat and work around it, congratulations. You have done perfect self defense. If you see the threat and avoid it, great. If you can convince him whatever he wants isn't worth what he'll have to pay to get it, very good. If the bad guy decides there is someone else easier to victimize it worked. If your initial reaction to a creep is to hunker down, make yourself small and hope he will go away, congratulations, you just won a crime. If you have a planned, practiced response even if it isn't the absolute best there's a good chance the predator will look for different prey. And if you do fight back verbally or physically - not screaming or aimless struggling - the chance of the attack being completed goes way, way down. We have over half a century of multi-factor multi-disciplinary research from around the world on this. That's the baseline. The more effective the stuff you learn is and the easier it is to bring up under stress the better.

[@jasonmiller4307]

that troom troom video with you and icy Mike is one of fav videos on youtube.

[@dylancooper4993]

Sweet T killed the aerobics set

[@theaikidoka]

OK, Wonderboy mumbling 'come on then baby' was not on my bingo card for today, but here we are.

[@williammcnamara9049]

15:50 IM LOOKIN FOR GOOCH, TAINT, PERENIUM.... Same brother, same

[@weareastrangemonkey]

Love how sensei addresses the belly exposure, modesty even under fire.

[@alexanderren1097]

9:28 she’s doing the Thrust of Freedom. Guaranteed to work every time but you MUST restomp the groin afterwards

[@caalmodeoc]

Mike showing that IDF training with the magazine was funny af

[@RKmndo]

"I felt like there was zero threat to me until..." 😂