Testing the STRANGEST MMA Rules

[@RamseyDewey]

Seth, it must have been a lot of work to bleep out everything Mike was saying in the foul language scene! It was a lot of fun making this video with you guys.

[@SenseiSeth]

Lots of editing lol

[@SebastianSchachner]

Ramsey your face when seth explained that rule was hillarious :D

[@studytime3461]

Thanks for the fish hooking segment... gotta add that to my knife execution technique set lol.

[@studytime3461]

Way more theatrical than the libre fighting or fairbairn Sykes versions of the throat pry

[@iangrau-fay3604]

This collab as amazing, hope all of you do a mega team up with Sean and Gabriel Varga someday.

[@punkxblaze]

Mike doing a spot on Ramsey Dewey impression right in front of the man is gold.

[@Pikepaw]

I can’t believe IcyMike has not shown that perfect impression before!

[@RamseyDewey]

Mwahahahaha! So it is... so it is!

[@harambae117]

I thought I missed it somehow until it killed me.

[@edwardjames6023]

​@@Pikepaw he has

[@Brainwashed101]

@@Pikepaw kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGTbkId5ZcegqJo Here you go!

[@bigheadrhino]

Adding a rule where throwing your opponent over the fence results in victory would actually make the fence game a lot more interesting.

[@Sakattack2023]

i think now days it'd just lead to more slams which they want to get away from as well. But i do see the safety issue with trying to throw them out, its like an 6 foot drop to a 3 foot wide grated metal platform which is also about 3 feet off of concrete or gymnasium floor.

[@ArifRWinandar]

That's just sumo with extra steps.

[@killersalmon4359]

Regardless, it looks like a great full body workout. Seth looked tuckered out heaving Mike out of there.

[@Omidion]

The height of the cage would have to be adapted for each category, since the fighters in fetherlight are shorter than super heavy

[@ericdale4641]

I'd say it's a liability issue. You don't want a fighter going over and hurting a fan by accident.

[@hard2hurt]

Seth: see if grabbing my gloves gives you more control over me Ramsey: i don't need that but ok

[@rupertbee]

Spot on Ramsey impression

[@PaolPaol-p1x]

Who like the best Street fighting video vote icy mike😂

[@cabalarcana6996]

Ah, yes, Gloves. The only safety tool that make a sport more dangerous.

[@cutcutado]

Lmao right

[@JCPRuckus]

There's a lot of argument that football pads might do the same thing. Decleating a guy is a lot less appealing prospect than just getting a hold of him and pulling him to the ground when you're not in padded plastic body armor.

[@ehisey]

And helmets, they are kind of a wash. They reduce surface trauma but increase likely hood of a concussion or KO.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@JCPRuckus yeah

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@ehisey exactly

[@ghost_615]

Mike said "It's not unpleasant. It reminds me of home.". 😂😂😂 Editing to add: "STOCKTON MOTHERF*****!!!" Mike is just on another level in this one. 😄

[@hypnoticskull6342]

Ramsey over here showing why he was a pro MMA fighter

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Ik. He was practically handling seth even without the glove grabbing.

[@aarr8936]

Yeah, incredible grappling fluidity

[@sullyb23511]

Every single one of them says that his take defense and strength are incredible.

[@OptimusSledge]

Icy Mike needs to do a video on the self defense value of always being covered in Vaseline and hurling abuse at your attacker. Hell, there's another class he could offer: phrases to make your attacker feel terrible while you fish hook their mouth apart.

[@reidpattis3127]

Still can't believe Ramsey, Mike, and Seth are in the same room.

[@faynoz8566]

Watch the ultimate self defense championship of Rokas (Martial Art Journey) you'll see them all + others

[@killersalmon4359]

I can't believe Jeff Chan agreed to get covered with vaseline. I gotta wonder how long it took him to get that off of him.

[@mixedmartialnutrition1746]

freakin hilarious upload

[@mzaa6787]

Missed a great opportunity to talk about knees to the head on a grounded opponent (similar to soccer kicks but more versatile and less "scary" looking). Jeff fights under One rules which allow them so it would have been nice to hear his perspective on that. Love these collabs though!

[@SenseiSeth]

This is actually the 2nd version of this! First one I did at upstate karate

[@dramalexi]

The first MMA competitions I saw here in Germany back then when the sport started to move away from illegal tournaments to something more professional, the fighters were allowed to knee someone to the head. The result was pretty lame though. A lot of cuts and a lot of bleeding. Which led the fights to end pretty early.

[@yubukai]

…and head butts.

[@phillskinner8671]

That impersonation was so spot on I thought Mike was mouthing over Ramsey talking for a second hahaha

[@camiloiribarren1450]

It’s always fun to see how MMA illegal rules can help outside the ring

[@Summer_Tea]

You might get your finger bitten clean off if you fish hook.

[@christowers7307]

​@@Summer_Tea bro you have the stretchiest teeth imaginable if you can do that

[@Summer_Tea]

@@christowers7307 Think about it. You don't actively practice fish hooking people. So in a crazy street fight or self-defense situation where your adrenaline is pumping and your nerves are shot, you're probably not going to be perfectly accurate with your finger placement on something you've never actually trained before. They could also turn into you to get a better angle to bite.

[@devinmccurry5546]

Definitely like glove grabbing, and also the knee and kicking of a grounded appointment, which I think should both be legal and always behind head the punch and elbows which would very useful and important in realife

[@p4inmaker]

Yup, I carry a vat of vaseline on me every day now.

[@collewis6681]

Love Mike doing Ramsey. Now, it will be good to see Ramsey doing Mike

[@danielpagan2848]

He does have a video from a few years ago where he imitates him lol Mike has a long history of imitating Ramsey and Ramsey finally did one. I don't remember the title of the video but I do remember seeing it 😂

[@nadomari623]

@@danielpagan2848 saw it too. Wasn't good at all. Mike is a great comedian ramsey isn't

[@obiwanquixote8423]

"Ramsey doing Mike" Whoa, let's keep this a family show!

[@akiroai6577]

wait hold on just a second....

[@tomnaughadie]

Tank Abbott is the reason for 90% of the rules.😂 I agree with Mike that throwing someone out of the cage should be a win, but I'm a big fan of Sumo.

[@TheElbowMerchant]

Icy Mike enjoyed the fish hooking and "abusive language" segments WAY too much, haha. And I loved it! Great stuff, Sensei Seth. Very entertaining and informative as always.

[@KuraZie]

Something Mike hinted at towards the end I think is a part as well, the general audience probably doesn't really want to see, or at least its probably better not to expose a general audience to, some of the less sportsmanlike maneuvers. If you fishhook someone and they tap from it, that's not a satisfying way to end the fight, if they fight the fishhook and end up tearing into the cheek that's probably on the "oh I did not want to see that" side of things. Similar for head stomping / soccer kicks, it goes from a fight to sadistic violence which is a bit unnerving.

[@DaTimmeh]

I feel like they also underestimate how much more damaging soccer kicks are, laying on the ground means the body is planted, so a lot more of the force goes to the head and neck. It might have the same power as a standing head kick, but with a higher point of gravity(and less friction with ground) spread the force more across your body. Plus, if they’re on the ground, chances are they aren’t able to defend themselves well, and may already by half out

[@kaspershaupt]

​@@DaTimmeh yeah your head can't go anywhere, so it has to absorb more force then a standing head kick. I guess it also takes way less skill and not as risky as a head kick

[@pranakhan]

Yeah the term Dewey used, "Security theatre", really summed it up

[@biohazard724]

​@@kaspershaupt the kick is absorbed by a MUCH shorter fulcrum whereas if you're both standing the recipient of the kick can roll with it, stumble around, or fall down all of which dissipates the force over more time. It also looks better.

[@GabrielAKAFinn]

It's all back to the fact that "ground fighting" is gay because if you're on the ground the fight is already over.

[@PhilipZeplinDK]

7:17 was fucking hilarious. KZbinrs usually try this, but the timing is off and so, but this was just done perfectly :D had a great fucking laugh! Seth talking for ages without looking sus until the very end, Ramsey who's just standing there with a giant WTF expression, and Jeff with just an instant "eh I'll pass" notion - gold, man. Gold.

[@JuvyThaKid]

Mike just hanging there as they explain the cage rule haha

[@GLmig]

The Soccer kick on the floor rule also helps avoid the opportunity of kicking someone in the head when they might already knocked out or close to it saving them from potentially major damage

[@wonderbread1966]

And typically when on the ground and a soccer kick is utilized is when someone is on all 4's preventing the person on the ground from protecting their head. Hands are busy holding themselves up or pushing themselves to their feet, not worrying about blocking your head.

[@mikekempf1456]

not even 30 seconds in and I am uncomfortable. Outstanding work boys

[@SimBol1216]

I love Jeff's expression at 7:18. It's not anger or shock. It's basically just concern. Like "...why??"

[@TheKyleMark]

Y’know Ramsey has such an odd and soft spoken vibe and Mike’s impression of him is fun and all of that makes it easy to forget he’s a VERY LEGIT BAD DUDE until you see him start getting excited in the cage and gleefully demonstrating how he’d eat Seth for dinner if he wanted lol.

[@NoNoNah306]

These are good self defense tips too, next time I have to walk through a a rough neighbourhood I'm doing it fully greased up and with my mouth taped shut.

[@KevinLeeVlog]

Can I just say how shredded Jeff is at 0:41? Dang bro!

[@BMO_Creative]

Ramsey Dewey is a big strong dude! covered in Vaseline, wearing a speedo and fish hooking people he would be invincible! LOL

[@SetoSokotsu]

...when did the Seth/Mike bromance become a thing, 😂😂. It's actually quite amazing to watch...

[@damanOts]

9:00 was freaking hilarious

[@IdkManSomeFugginChannel]

Yes i agree

[@De.La.Selvah]

god iwas bout to taag in the same thing poor sensei :V afyhauhfajhuf

[@TheeGoatPig]

First, Mike's impersonation of Ramsey is awesome. B, I think a downed opponent should be revised to on back or belly. If you are on your hands and knees, or sitting vertically, you are still holding yourself up. You are able to move in a variety of ways. You can use one arm to block. You can defend yourself from these positions. It won't be the most effective defense ever, but you can still protect yourself more than not. Finally, I loved the soccer-kick fake-out. The looks on everyone's faces before the head-swap was terrific.

[@JCPRuckus]

As Rokus pointed out, you have almost no ability to roll with a strike when you're on the ground. That includes if you're on your hands and knees or sitting. I would allow kicks to the body, but not the head. I don't think it adds anything to the sporting competition, and I do believe it's unnecessarily more risky than kicks to the head of a standing opponent in most cases.

[@badwerds]

​@@JCPRuckus i dunno, I think the ability to save yourself from head kicks when you go down let's a lot of people skate from essentially fight losing positions

[@JCPRuckus]

@@badwerds - You're missing the point. It's a safety issue. If I punch you in the back of the head and detach your brain stem, then I'd win the fight too. But you're not allowed to hit to the back of the head because it's a sport, not an actual life and death battle... Perspective... Get some.

[@grahamhill676]

​@@JCPRuckus Seth said that a soccer kick is comparably powerful to a head kick...But let's he honest. It isn't. Stamping down on someone head with all your weight or winding up a full powered kick across someone's head is way worse. A traditional soccer kick is fairly likely to break someone's neck too. There's nowhere for the head to move and thus no cushioning of the blow. All that force is going into the skull, to the floor, and back through the skull.

[@JCPRuckus]

@@grahamhill676 - I'm not even arguing he's wrong. The standing soccer kick and a standing kick to a standing opponent might hit just about as hard, but the difference is, as you said, in how far you can move your head to absorb the blow. It's the difference between using your brakes to make an emergency stop from 50 mph and using a brick wall. One might toss you around uncomfortably, the other has a pretty good chance to kill you... I'm just assuming he wasn't talking about a running soccer kick.

[@Lusciouslysorry]

More than colleagues, they all seem like friends, but Mike and Seth seem like brothers. Love it.

[@johngr1747]

Mike's "I love my job!" had me weak!

[@MakCurrel]

Ramsey Dewey completely ignoring Icy Mike impersonating him. 😅

[@RamseyDewey]

I was crying silently on the inside.

[@Dram1984]

The “no abusive language” is probably more to do with advertisers than anything else.

[@ChrisRaynorMD]

Thanks for the shout out brother! The feeling is mutual!

[@AR-yd2nd]

7:32 was that a ramsey impression? Lmao

[@danielmejorado6098]

Ramsay with some really solid demonstration of fighting dirty with those glove holding.

[@Geirks280]

LMFAO Mike immediately going "Stockton mfer" after slapping and cussing at Seth had me rolling

[@piotrd7355]

Nick Diaz has changed MMA in so many ways.

[@Cavalier9500]

Soccer Kicks do change the game a little bit. They discourage BJJ players from scooting around on their butts the entire fight. If you watch Topuria vs. Hall, there were many times where Topuria could have stomped/ soccer kicked Ryan Hall into oblivion. Sakuraba also soccer kicked Royler Gracie really hard in their fight and it forced Royler to think twice about butt scooting on the ground the whole time.

[@uuh4yj43]

scooting happened a lot in pride tho, and they allowed soccer kicks, and people used them very often and very well. modern mma has way less butt scooting than early on, in my point of view, rules for passivity and scoring discourage it much more than soccers kicks do, without upping the risk for the athletes.

[@makoshark7122]

That uneditted footage of mike is a treasure thatll probably be forever hidden

[@ajclmt]

The best part of this Self-Defense Olympics is the dynamic between all of you together. I hope there are more get togethers in the future! It seems to be an educational experience for all of you too.

[@kuatlWeed]

Really like those videos with all you guys together.

[@EnFyr]

I can't even express how much fun it's been to be a part of your guys colab journey!

[@jeanackle]

Aw, you guys spoil us with content! Loved it.

[@Dondlo46]

Adding Ramsey to your collab combination is absolutely epic, more of that pls

[@foxcks]

Dude I fucken love these crossover videos. Please meet up again it's amazing

[@JehuMartin]

Sensei Seth used GrandmasterJesse’s Mexican Martial Arts move and secured the bystander! Outstanding!

[@raccoonmyroom6861]

This was a really cool video idea. It's great seeing you all together.

[@1313thesurgen]

Y'all working together is some of the best stuff to happen to combat sports in long time. Keep up the great work gentlemen....cheers

[@lulospawn]

Ramsey grabbing Seth's gloves was pure domination but specially because what's behind that there's a mighty Ramsey knee that would send you to Mars so fast Elon Musk would pay half his fortune to be next in line.

[@argon2880]

This video is so cool man I was having a bad day and this just cheered me up so much

[@SenseiSeth]

Happy to hear it. Hope tomorrows better!

[@enoughofyourkoicarp]

Seth Today: "Let's try fish hooking." Seth Next Week: "Did I ever tell you how I got these scars?"

[@emissarial6598]

I've been enjoying (and educated by) everything that's come from this meet up in Australia. Thanks for the effort all of you put into it.

[@danplasma]

7:10 rule 5 NO SPEEDOS! a rule that should extend to all public spaces, ty, lmfao! 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pangopod2969]

Would love an episode 2 !

[@Voronza]

All of you guys please settle in Australia for eternity! :D Awesomeness of all your channels really spiked this days :D

[@stephanchee3597]

Seth, love your content by the way! The Vaseline rule reminded me of Turkish Oil Wrestling! Would love to see you try it or something like it and see how you'll need to adapt your techniques and strategies to win in a match!

[@209es1]

That was a great “Stockton” after the slap mike. Stocktonians approve 😂

[@Lucky-me3nh]

Do a video on mma rulesets where you spar using those rulesets . Pridefc style , ZST , Pancrase etc

[@3ReJuv]

I am generally okay with rules that are intended to improve the public perception of a sport, as long as they do not significantly alter the way the game is played. However, I believe that some rules can have the opposite effect, such as the rule against knees to a downed opponent. This rule has led to some fighters intentionally dropping to the ground as a strategy and made many positions that would be unsafe safe.

[@Kernnichiwa]

Ah yes the "Sterling Shuffle"

[@WuHongLee]

There's a lot of rules that are directly the result of Tank Abbott in the mid 90's. No fish hooking and no using the fence as a weapon are because of him.

[@MrLogic204]

I love you all being together, great group of people to watch. Keep it up good sirs.

[@languageonly]

I was hoping to see you guys cover a brutal finish in the UFC that forced a move to become illegal: the chin to the eye. Mark Kerr was in the head and arm choke position, put his chin on Dan Bobish's eye and put all his weight on it. Instant tap.

[@piotrd7355]

Mark is the reason by which elbow and head blows became illegal in Pride.

[@13buthead]

the only rule i hate is when someone is touching the ground with 1 hand on purpose so they can have terrible posture and not get kneed in the head.

[@DavidMedic447]

Knees to a grounded opponent and 12-6 elbows are the only rule changes I want in the UFC.

[@nomer440]

i just wanted to say I love Seth he's funny and appreciate all of you guys

[@stuckinstuff1814]

It's not the soccer kicks it's the roundhouse kick. Even amongst pro fighters a roundhouse to the head of a standing opponent is difficult and it loses power as a result. When an opponent has three points of contact so crouching/kneeling, they are perfectly positioned for a kick that can cause lasting damage.

[@impressivestory]

The collaborative content with all of you has been pretty incredible. Haven’t seen hobby youtubers come together like this before - feels like maybe a new golden age of martial arts youtube! Also: holy crap Ramsey is strong.

[@iambatsmurfette]

Like Mike, I literally lol'ed when you ran around Jeff Chan in a circle, in the timidity example 😂

[@4xdblack]

On one hand, we see why we need these rules in combat sports, especially after Dana White tried to do slap boxing and ignored all the necessary steps. But on the other hand... Gladiator fights would be the biggest thing on television if it still existed...

[@Pikepaw]

As soon as Mike was going demonstrate abusive language, I was expecting nothing but beeps out of his mouth. I imagine those present learned some new words and phrases.

[@cliffspencer2]

The speedo thing came about when Dennis Hallman wore one during his fight at UFC 133. Dana White was pissed and vowed to make sure it never happened again.

[@Okuri_Inu_Comic]

Seth got "Greased up Jeff Chan" out of the KZbin video idea hat draw. Nice win there, Seth. Jokes aside, I love all your content, all the collab stuff is just even better. Keep it up as long as you find it fulfilling! 🤙

[@kapilthevkanapathipillai6424]

I want videos all these guys together, this is the best.

[@Samuel.Strange.Supreme]

Mike and Seth doing the fish hooks is without a doubt the weirdest thing I have ever seen in martial arts 🫤🫥…

[@alpha_neandethal_primarch]

that was the moment i liked the video..

[@PhilipZeplinDK]

Hey man, even big bois need a little snuggle time!

[@Crunchy166]

It's part of their relationship dynamic XD

[@NickPilmeyer]

Man I love all you guys, I'ma say it again and again. I could watch these collabs forever.

[@jimpavlidis5915]

Why is this video so short?? I was having too much fun!! 😂

[@MJRLHobbyStuff]

Mike was liking the spinal decompression from hanging upside down like that

[@nicholasmessina6406]

The Ramsey Dewey impression killed me😂

[@HalbredEnjoyer5]

Love the videos Seth are you gonna do a vid over you and Jeff sparring that’d be a dope video

[@AntCantShoot]

"reminds me of home" I would not have went back into that position 😂😭😭 icy mikes funny asf

[@tomnaughadie]

"Talk now." "I'm not allowed."

[@Felground]

I love how Mike is just hanging upside down during the conversation.

[@IvanBarsch]

I love that everyone jumped on the bandwagon to make collab videos while you were all in Australia.

[@joshuataylor7213]

Love seeing you guys putting out this group content since the competition. Keep it up!

[@tigerboom9030]

I think soccer kicks are illegal to allow more grappling and ground game rather than just kicking someone lying down.

[@reaps2661]

Also lets say someone gets knocked down or out, usually a stumble before the fall adding distance I feel like a run up into a soccer kick sounds devastating

[@juanmejiagomez5514]

It’s hard to kick in the head someone (even on the ground) that’s trying to defend themselves, unless the person isn’t defending themselves anymore, so to me it makes sense, it’s a way to increase protection for fighters without really changing the dynamic all that much. Knees to the head of grounded opponents on the other hand would be a different story, because you can throw those while grappling from a variety of positions you end up in normally throughout a fight, even while the opponent is actively trying to defend themselves

[@danzigrulze5211]

Seth: You wanna know how I got these scars? Mike: *Laughing hysterically in the background*

[@lennartholeck2527]

That "PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEP"-Part... Hilarious 😂

[@2ndai385]

Lol Mike’s energy is always infectious

[@retroghidora6767]

There are still promotions that allow kicks and knees to a grounded opponent, I think those are the only kinds of actions covered in the video that should be changed under the unified rules of mma. At least knees, we know heads aren't literally exploding from this stuff.

[@lsh3991]

This was awesome having you guys all together in one video

[@XarkoCZ]

Oh hi Coach! Fancy seeing you here!

[@boyetespiritu2384]

I am crying/laughing watiching this gem of a video. Will definitely always watch this when I am sad and wanted cheering up. Good job Sensei Seth. Keep it up. 🙏👊🏾

[@powersmith]

I was promised a Sensei Seth vs. Icey Mike, Speedo Fight; my disappointment is immeasurable, and my entire day is ruined.

[@MHolland-t4n]

Yall! I don't normally comment on videos, but I'll make an exception this time. Mike is friggin HILARIOUS!

[@N00btr00per]

The grabbing gloves chapter is just ramsey dewey flexing his grip, clinch and chain wrestle skills.

[@shadowfighter6445]

I'm so happy to see this uploaded on my birthday 🥳🎂. My Favorite parts are with Icy Mike so into the swearing and you guys just skipped the speedo 😂.

[@SenseiSeth]

Happy birthday!

[@shadowfighter6445]

@@SenseiSeth Thank you 😊.

[@Zabrixis1919]

2:15 this is a crazy crazy thing to say 😂😂

[@3gnomesinacoat448]

The transitions in this video are incredible!

[@iane9552]

the "do it" at the end caught me off guard. Subscription earned

[@matandcat2506]

Icy mike!! That impression was cold man 😂😂😂😂

[@MarinhoRFilho]

This video was wonderfully funny 🤣 It´s amazing to see this colabs!