Surefire Stiletto Flashlight : Pro Vs EDC (Plus one Flaw with both)

[@mtsfitness]

I was also very impressed with the low and medium beams. The low is very bright and useful for most tasks

[@qwerty1293]

Can confirm the weakness in the waterproof department, I fell in a pool with mine (pro model) and it stopped working and when I got in contact with them they kinda fought me on acknowledging the warranty asking me a lot of questions and such. Surefire however did replace it and my current model has been running strong ever since.

[@Highgear145]

😆😆 Get an Olight....My Olight has never failed

[@project86xero]

@@Highgear145 Mine has. That's why I got a Stiletto Pro in the first place. Olight makes a great utility or work light but even the warrior series doesn't make a good tactical or defensive light.

[@Highgear145]

@@project86xero I'll just move on the another brand until I find something reliable and waterproof, I don't care about big names in the industry or supporting a certain company...I simply want good products

[@jackjohnson291]

@@Highgear145 Elzetta is absolutely bombproof and leaps and bounds above in quality. Their configuration layout on the website can be a bit confusing, but it allows you to choose exactly what you want. Love mine, but it sees most of its time on a rifle. I really need to get another.

[@project86xero]

@@Highgear145 Just get one of their regular duel fuel models. They use two cr123s or an 18650 rechargeable. They are IPX7 waterproof or better. The steletto is the only one that has a charge port (with the exceptionof a keychain light they make). Streamlight makes an okay light but the ones I'd trust are too big. That's why I like the steletto. It's just right. Just don't dive into a lake and it's fine. You could also look at Modlite, Arisaka, or Cloud Defensive. All US made tanks. But the Steletto is in a unique place and it fits my needs perfectly.

[@sazarac28]

I’ve had the Stiletto for 3 years. EDC. I have 12 Surefire lights and this is my favorite. The charge holds for a long time I only charge it about once a month. Just go and buy one you will not be disappointed. Just a disclaimer. The max vision light pattern is not for going out to distance. It’s more of a wide flood.

[@jackjohnson291]

I wish it had some throw to it. Floody lights certainly have a place, but I find throw far more useful.

[@jacobmanalang8162]

i like the e series and 16650 batteries specifically the tactician

[@FlashBro-r4w]

@@jackjohnson291 bro just try a fenix light out. Totally worth it

[@mtsfitness]

I have the Pro version that work purchased for me. I have had it for a month and so far so good. I my first impression was that it was smaller in person than what I thought. Carries very well in the pocket and has been very useful/dependable in my short time with it. I personally would not have spent $230 on it and would have considered the standard version instead. I do like it better than my Olight Warrior mini 2 as that light would always turn on it my pocket. I have not had that problem with the Stiletto Pro.

[@chipsterb4946]

😳 price is really high to me.

[@FlashBro-r4w]

Unbelievably expensive. I wouldn’t have 1/2 the flashlight collection I have now if they all cost a 3rd of what that stiletto pro costs.

[@eriste7879]

I’m sure by now the neighbors are accustomed to flashlights being shined in their windows 😂

[@alphakennybody2583]

well that would his son and parents...

[@RONALDRENFRO83]

[@Nordraw]

That water issue is a fatal flaw. That is ridiculous for an over priced light like that

[@RN-gg1ec]

After watching this, I think Santa will be bringing me one for Christmas!

[@casualtactician9537]

The regular Stiletto you have here is what I had and twice after about a year both times the polymer cracked down the side screws from normal use the second time it crumbled now surefire replaced it no questions asked but this third replacement one looks to be different polymer and looks to have buttons of the stiletto pro so I’m hoping it’s a tougher material but even though the head almost broke clean off it still worked! IM Loyal to surefire multiple lights no issues and suppressors as well but the original polymer was definitely a no go and want the aluminum bodied pro as it would be bulletproof

[@trentcampbell2388]

You can program the rear tactical switch to be momentary or constant on also

[@boonedog1457]

Nice demonstration! Nice review! Appreciate your channel brother. 🙏

[@MrLandphill]

Thanks for all the great videos.

[@seanmartel1960]

Once again a good review

[@project86xero]

Love my steletto pro. I carried a Olight warrior mini for a good while and the mini 2 after it was recalled. However I primarily wanted a defensive light and the olight warrior mini had to many issues with accidental activation and ,worst of all, not activating when I needed it. So I switched to the Stiletto Pro a few months ago and I have to say I'll never look back. Don't get me wrong. Olight makes a good utility light. However I don't trust it as a defensive light.

[@BigRed-oi6ky]

I'd love to see it compared to the streamlight wedge

[@evanacey1414]

Another flaw (imho anyway) is the antiquated micro usb charging system.. You would think that AT LEAST with the pro model you would get superior water resistance and USB Type-C for faster charging capability.. Surefire seems to have fallen behind the competition and is content with resting on its laurels and the reputation associated with the Surefire brand while it’s competitors (I’m talking to you, Cloud Defense and Modlite) are now the ones bringing true innovation in that space.

[@gjhoward]

*CORRECTION* : You can adjust the tailswitch from momentary to toggle on using the programming button, wait for the blue, then click the tailswitch. Doing so will keep it on constant, but disables the strobe.

[@captainskippy6622]

I cheaped out and bought the EDC model not the pro. I regret that now. But even the EDC model is brighter than my 1000 lumen streamlight wedge. The wedge would be a really good light if it had a tail switch. I was impressed with the battery life of all of these lights. And a big failure to me for the EDC model is the pocket clip is not reversible. I like to have my flashlight pointing down in my pocket to protect the lens.

[@scottburns5242]

I feel like the lense or more likely to get damaged by keys in my pocket than anything outside the pocket. Might be worth seeing if using a screen protector cut to fit on the lense would work on it without affecting the light.

[@jacobmanalang8162]

i cant do the stiletto. i bought the arkfeld because of the sale and the more olights you have the more magnetic chargers you get. i would prefer the wedge especially with type c charging the laser kind of sealed the deal. i need to point at stuff i cant reach all the time. i watched a disassembly video and im not taking the stiletto apart or any of these to take advantage of a bigger batery i need to install or better charging. since ive been on the channel for so long ive got a bunch of great gear. i ended up buying an i5t and pen to get the gift so i think ill be looking for some of those dumb bulbs next which are very practical

[@georgebousgas5451]

For someone who claims that has always carried a olight has changed very quickly.

[@AzoneDefense]

Take a look at the NiteCore P18 (would love to see a review). It's a contender with settings up to 1800 lumens and many of the same features; flattened design, recessed on/off tail cap, deep edc pocket carry for around $60-$80 and includes a separate stealth red light feature

[@gingebrien2408]

I Surefire. But the excuse for the price, being made in America has to come with incredible function. I love the looks of the Stiletto Pro but the fact that it died after minimal time submerged is a deal buster. My Olight is cheaper by far and has taken a beating and keeps on ticking. Surfire needs to step up it’s game.

[@TheAcidheat]

i prefer removable battery flashlights and headlights with warm led.. love zebralight😉👍❤️🇱🇹

[@Hunglikhorse]

You need to do another EDC video for 2022 please

[@rayoflight62]

I'm surprised to see a micro-USB charging port. I expected an USB-C socket on the Stiletto Pro but, it is what it is...

[@GunnerBob92]

If you press and hold the program switch and then press the tail switch, your tail switch will become toggle on instead of press & hold

[@BenTen734]

Nice, will you be doing a review on the new Olight Baton 3 Pro ?... kinda think it's a winner of note.

[@AggiePhil]

No

[@hesa3656]

Stiletto Pro is $179.99 Primary Arms Halloween sale. 👍🇺🇸

[@RM2k3-GRP]

I wish the tail switch could be programmed to go instant-strobe, kinda like (some) Nitecore flashlights do, I would definitely buy this over NC because... I mean I like them but, let's face it, when it comes to quality of construction they are kinda lackluster, they really can't take much beating.

[@MichaelR58]

Good review, thanks for sharing , God bless !

[@isthi000ify]

Amazing.

[@my3sons386]

Thx great review as always. Funny breakouts too 😂

[@PaEMT_FF9]

Not fancy candy, in the slightest, however streamlight headlamp for $7 with included batteries is a no-brainer. North American Rescue Clearance. 😉😉

[@frank-castle]

I wonder if the tail switch can be somwhat programmed to access insant strobe even when the flashlight is off, kinda like what nitecore does with their P20's and other flashlights

[@craig6542]

I've got a green laser on my flashlight!👍🇬🇧

[@dfernandez3482]

I always wanted the pro version but the price tho wtf 😂😰

[@dav2850]

So being made in the USA means no CE Lasered into the anodize.

[@tjh780]

I have the pro. My only complaint is that it's not USB-C.

[@DamionJR4923]

I have had problems with every rubber charging port cover keeping things water proof. After a couple of months they never stay in and I end up ripping them off cause they don’t work anymore.

[@mikeoporto6365]

Surefire 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[@P.S.009]

Overpriced American junk that's not even waterproof and had to be returned. lmao! Thanks for your honest review.

[@expectmore-]

Wish the pro was waterproof

[@williamlong3208]

Had to quit carrying my Stiletto due to it constantly turning on in my pocket and it would be dead when I went to use it.

[@Falconryder]

I literally sleep with mine, clipped in my pajama pants pocket, and that has never happened to me (pro model.)

[@aaronjenkley1993]

I had the same issue. Used to press against my shirt stays and it would turn on. I’d feel the heat building up in my pocket as I was driving around

[@raphael9749]

I no longer buy any rechargeable electronics that do not use USB-C ports. Companies need to get with the times mini-USB is obsolete and inferior!

[@DAVIS__]

My gun is number 1 light comes in second

[@elizabethsloan2153]

I looked up both and they start at 250.00 on ebay......too much. Please stick to the ones we can afford. Like 90% of your videos

[@jasonb4988]

Surefire .. American made .. I’ll stick with them .. respect other brands, just want jobs and products from the USA !

[@gearstuffs8007]

USB C please!!!!!!!😥

[@Highgear145]

These lights had a lot of failures

[@project86xero]

Only in water. Just don't jump in a big ass body or water and it's fine. Mine hasn't failed me yet. Unlike the Olights I've tried.

[@Highgear145]

@@project86xero Any light that isn't waterproof is an instant deal breaker for me, my Olight Arkfeld can survive water

[@seanhoude]

Too bad the best features of each aren't on both SureFire lights. My biggest gripe is that both use the old unreliable micro-USB charging port, rather than the much improved USB-C. Between that and them failing your water tests, I will have to pass. At $80 that Olight Arkfeld sounds like a winner. Thanks.

[@user-sp6os6tc2r]

You don't like that it has an older standard for charger so you'd go for one that's proprietary instead?

[@Highgear145]

The Olight Arkfeld is what I'm getting , I stopped carrying the Warrior Mini because of the size, it's still a bit too big in my pocket

[@jackjohnson291]

@@user-sp6os6tc2r Proprietary chargers are a HUGE pain in the ___. I have more than I know what to do with or to remember what goes with what (even after labeling them all).

[@jonmeray713]

@@user-sp6os6tc2r usb c is not proprietary😂 its literally the standard for years now

[@Falconryder]

micro-usb is not unreliable, particularly when only used for charging. these are not brand new models; they came out before usb-c started to become popular. Not as elegant as the Olight magnetic disc, but micro works fine.

[@UtiliTerran]

Micro USB in 2022 is a huge fail. That connection is DOA, USB-C is already the current standard.

[@Falconryder]

The piddly little details people get hung up on. Works exactly the same. Everyone over 15 already has a dozen of these cords laying around. The non-replaceable battery is going to give out long before the charge port does.

[@UtiliTerran]

@@Falconryder the kind of person that buys a $200 edc flashlight usually cares about the details. Micro USB sucks.

[@Falconryder]

@@UtiliTerran "micro USB sucks"...for no stated reason. Just out of fashion with millennials I guess. Nevermind that it works just as well (and is used exactly the same way) as the way cooler usb-c port in regards to simple charging up batteries. Literally like not eating the best bread in the restaurant because the knife used to butter the bread isn't your favorite style. No worries man; you do you.

[@UtiliTerran]

@@Falconryder it's a bad connector because it has a high rate of failure, carries less power and data, must be oriented correctly, and isn't the industry standard.

[@ZaneDouglas1]

I am in my fifties and I agree with UtiliTerran, not having the new standard USB-C on such an expensive light is a huge fail. As I get older, I have trouble seeing if a micro-USB is oriented in the right direction when trying to plug it in, and I have easily damaged such connections. There is a reason why the EU has adopted a new law requiring universal USB-C connectivity on all electronics starting in 2024. Surefire prides itself on being cutting edge and a leader in the industry, so it baffles me that they are using an outdated charging port.

[@DOCSAFETUBE]

Great review don, you can't have enough lights all I can say..the pro does great.. I keep it on my battle belt.

[@badimpulses17]

Pass, the competition is lower in price and better specs.

[@FlashBro-r4w]

Fenix PD35 v.5 1,700 lumens. $85.00. Never going back to surefire. Price is absurd